BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as english language free press. << OMG Trilema's jig is up!!!
mircea_popescu: the proposition that it's borne by history seems also quite defensible
mircea_popescu: dignork maybe suggest this chan to the author ?
punkman: "So, how would an eigendemocracy suss out the truth about who trusts whom on which subject? I don’t have a very good answer to this, and am open to suggestions. The best idea so far is to use Facebook for this purpose, but I don’t know exactly how."
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I think you might predate the tradition
asciilifeform realizes he did not perform the traditional 'year of lurk'
BingoBoingo: What... the... fuck!
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BingoBoingo: ;;later tell moiety What did you do to the Dogers nao???
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you can cut off the part past 1st of may 2013, mthreat can prolly use more copies for coherence.
Vexual: yeah they have to have a punchline
mircea_popescu: what is this, the future ?
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mircea_popescu: i aspire that one day the taxpayer should spend more on this than on finding a cure for cancer.
ThickAsThieves: i just dont wanna remove the Bitcoin Fundnation thing from my blog :(
Vexual: i got a free ticket to hong kong thing, cost me 3bc to be disallowed onto the plane
mircea_popescu: once you're on list X and they say list X got membership that's it, you got it
mircea_popescu: i didn't get what specifically is involved, other than being on an approved list
ThickAsThieves: by making a account on their website of course
mircea_popescu: uh. how would they provide it ?
ThickAsThieves: but i had to sign up for it to be allowed at their annual meeting
ThickAsThieves: fwiw the Bitcoin Foundation still hasn't provided the free membership they noted all Bitcoin2014 conference attendees would be eligible for
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mircea_popescu: but it'd prolly be pretty sad, rather frustrating and quite boring
mircea_popescu: "A 1994 study in the United States, which looked at the number of sexual partners in a lifetime, found that 20% of heterosexual men had only one partner, 55% had two to twenty partners, and 25% had more than twenty partners."
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thestringpuller: ^- was talking about the dream not RL
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: chording keyboard would've worked great on phones << In grad school I became a master of the Blackberry arts. Ran a BES instance with one user (self)
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: Haha. Sorta? Well I guess Mike Caldwell came in here and it was a discussion about the USG.
bitcoinpete: and i'm off to the course. ciao!
penguirker: New blog post: http://devilsadvocate.biz/btcusd-update-one-more-cut-before-the-big-show/
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mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/the-fabulous-baker-boys/ << the pfeiff plays something very akin to blondy in that. kickass filmn too
bitcoinpete: to use an analogy, fighting over a lifted toilet seat is easier than addressing the broken marriage
mircea_popescu: lol that blondie vid is the tits. by her face you'd think she thinks she's singing inside a huge churning blender.
mircea_popescu: the systemic problems however... nobody wants to talk about those.
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete well she actually does have a point. the shreds of data people are making a big deal about are likely statistical noise.
mircea_popescu: most of the stuff they write is practically chinese (ie, doesn't follow romanian topic conventions (as in most latin languages you can order the words either plainly or meaningfully in romanian), they layer an abundance of cultured reference in between common metaphor (which is a process of significating that goes one step further than the idiom, roughly used to be known in english as conceit back before the us was a t
punkman: your "it" was the Bad Joke song, right?
punkman: the tensed romanian text
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mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: mircea_popescu > dogecoin mmporg in the style of Eve: <<< well... "going to", anyway.
bitcoinpete: "It is highly unlikely that most Americans feel the current rise in prices as noise. Inflation has a way of eating into every penny that you have especially when the market is flooded with debt."
mircea_popescu: benkay: there are some gems. some. << well of course. but the guy didn't say "there's going to be A total knockout born somewhere in the US"
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller did it involve vigorous copulative movements ?
mircea_popescu: benkay: <Vexual> not atc\ // i can't tell if this is the real Vexual or if his nick's been suborned by the most clever team to date << as opposed to what, before ?
mircea_popescu: " In the next 2 days 18 indie bands in Shoreditch will name themselves Nazi Weed Pope."
mircea_popescu: i doubt the guy's confused per se. looks more like, we're lulzy to him.
assbot: When I say 'most confused fan at the World Cup', I obviously mean after Columbian Nazi Weed Pope. Obviously. http://t.co/TXPVYcvHyo
Vexual: the undeniable
bitcoinpete: at the club i ran into some classmates from highschool. the looks on their faces were pretty golden
bitcoinpete: or they can
mircea_popescu: (yes, it is my considered opinion that the one sine qua non condition for successful flirting is the device of analogy. anything else people insist upon, such as looking good, being funny, having money or w/e is piss)
bitcoinpete: you shoulda seen me at the club on friday night
mircea_popescu: i certainly use a lot of sex analogies in work fields specifically because people [english speakers] so deliberately compartimentalise the two
bitcoinpete: "According to the analogy theory, it’s because making analogies requires thinking across traditional mental categories. In fact, some cognitive scientists have proposed that the farther the analogy—that is, the farther apart the previous experience and new situation—the more likely it will lead to a radically new idea." << hocus "science" but a point
mircea_popescu: in this sense, you don't want either democracy or strong government, because neither democracy nor strong government are capable of acting differently from the weak spirited but rich parent of an estranged daughter.
mircea_popescu: sort-of like the teenage slut born to wealth that skips a lot of school, and gets herself knocked up. not only is she getting some candy to "compensate" her for the abortion, but she also gets to blame her cocaine habit on the bad boy that "seduced" her.
mircea_popescu: and obviously, there's no prize for the people that ran safe stacks. there's a prize for those who didn't, who now get to a) bundle a lot of unrelated responmsibility and blame it on this known cause and b) ask for more money.
mircea_popescu: people doing "navy manuals" and whatever the fuck use decent software stacks for a limited time only.
ThickAsThieves: Because of this systemic risk, the SEC recently announced it “will be conducting examinations of more than 50 registered broker-dealers and registered investment advisers, focusing on areas related to cybersecurity.”
mircea_popescu: there you go asciilifeform
ThickAsThieves: “Cybercriminals acting in late 2013 installed a malicious computer program on the servers of a large hedge fund, crippling its high-speed trading strategy and sending information about its trades to unknown offsite computers.”
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mircea_popescu: when all they'd really need would be to forget all the wallets and whatnot and just you know, bet yes on this and no onthat
mircea_popescu: it's kinda funny, all these wanna-bes and have-beens trying to get involved into bitcoin with dysfunctional, nonsensical business models
kakobrekla: nah, he just makes to make a bet that over next N bets the outcome will be positive
ThickAsThieves: punkman should do another datamine: What if you bet .1 btc on Yes for all bets including "difficulty" and No for all others
bitcoinpete: ThickAsThieves: "On June 5th Friedcat's update mentioned the close to 60PH that was finishing up production. When asked how long that was from an inventory standpoint, he indicated 1 to 1.5 months from that day to sell everything plus the fiat to BTC conversion. 1.5 months from June 5th puts us around July 20th, a solid month from now."
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xmj: how fast is the rate of change?
mircea_popescu: and to cap the previous discussion : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/Beckwith_James_Carroll_Portrait_of_Evelyn_Nesbitt.jpg
Vexual: fuck i spilled my shisky then
mircea_popescu: im wondering if they have a pedo story in the drawer about him too. i wasn't able to find one.
ThickAsThieves: well the media will be happy to report his failures
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mircea_popescu: i'll tell you, it's your emotional investment in said media, and more generally the notion that the whole establishment is a positive thing "taken together" that irks you.
ThickAsThieves: i guess i need to stop caring about idiots that trust the media
mircea_popescu: "Bitreserve is Minors way to address the problems and opportunities he sees with Bitcoin. He says most people will never be comfortable holding the volatile digital currency"
ThickAsThieves: perfect contender for a bitcoin jesushood then
mircea_popescu: then went on a spending spree, which left him bankrupt last year.
mircea_popescu: read the guy's personal history sometime btw. it's quite instructive.
mircea_popescu: o the cnet guy
ThickAsThieves: "Bitreserve’s tagline is ‘the end of bitcoin volatility’. "
Vexual: nrst belive im writing the bitcoin tax law too
mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as english language free press.
ThickAsThieves: i wonder how these things go IRL, like does her boss say "Please write a bullish NFLX article"
ThickAsThieves: it's interesting learning the signs of deception in stock TA articles, charts, etc, to try to influence the market to buy at tops, sell at bottoms
Vexual: or see the kb
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mircea_popescu: lol hi there
Vexual: too late for that or you work in the garden
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ThickAsThieves: this guy is drunk too "Yea, these are nice. I want the gold one but I will probably wait since bitcoins are way undervalued and gold is somewhat over valued in relation."
ThickAsThieves: it's weird to have such a rock song with no band in the video
ThickAsThieves: intersting, i didnt know steam sold non-games, they also have the greenlight program for non-games too http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/browse/?appid=765§ion=software
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ThickAsThieves: mircea_popescu > dogecoin mmporg in the style of Eve: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=269740803
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Vexual: i wont mentio the airline;i'm xhanging
fluffypony: Vexual: not there yet - I fly from here (Johannesburg) tomorrow night
Vexual: how goes the estonian tailors?
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benkay: <mircea_popescu> someone actually believed that us born womenz were going to be teh prettiest, a century ago. // there are some gems. some.
benkay: <Vexual> not atc\ // i can't tell if this is the real Vexual or if his nick's been suborned by the most clever team to date
Vexual: as the sun comes up over latvia
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Vexual: take it back to the shack
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Vexual: thanks for the landcruisers
punkman1: makes me think of how I got no idea what some song is saying until I read the lyrics
bitcoinpete: and logged up and... ready for bed. golf in the morning!
bitcoinpete: just end up racing to the bottom on cost and process efficiency
bitcoinpete: decimation: 'phones' were varied and interesting and converge to iphone shitbox << following the leader instead of trying new shit like this is guaranteed to screw over the entire industry
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: never trust a baby boom, for the baby boomers are almost always the end of things. << added to the growing list
mircea_popescu: flogger and famine. there, it even alliterates.
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mircea_popescu: only the knuth and starvation makes beautiful girls.
mircea_popescu: "They are beyond question the loveliest of all their sex...In the United States, of course, where natural selection has been going on, as elsewhere, and where, much more than elsewhere, that has been a great variety to choose from. The eventual American woman will be even more beautiful than the woman of to-day. Her claims to that distinction will result from a fine combination of the best points of all those many race
bitcoinpete: o there it is
bitcoinpete: despite their "fairly distributed" motto
bitcoinpete: in the "well that's unexpected" way
bitcoinpete: sorta reminds me of the italian model cum nun
bitcoinpete: that yellow tie does wonders to obscure the gender of its bearer
mircea_popescu: also in the news, cointelegraph needs a bubble level
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqrvF4qCQAAEmtE.jpg << that's the solid dev team that defvinitely "has what it takes in the market" ?
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mircea_popescu: "Over time, as finance and commerce became more sophisticated, the concept of a unit of account emerge and gold generally became the default unit. Much has been written regarding why gold fell into this role, but for our purposes here its sufficient to note that it did." << seriously ?! what is this, insult the reader's intelligence club ?
mircea_popescu: "The origins of modern currencies started with gold and other precious metals." modern has an actual meaning. modern currencies start with the paper receipts used in england and then spread all over. premodern money starts with bronze and shells.
mircea_popescu: wtf is blackcoin in the first place.
bitcoinpete: "My point is simply that honey attracts more flies than vinegar and we don't need to attack other coins or promote negativity. It turns people off."
bitcoinpete: "I don't necessarily disagree with the message, and I think advertising there a great idea. However, we should absolutely not stoop to coin wars type of posts. Blackcoin can succeed along with LTC."
bitcoinpete: the blackcoin "community" has been driving some traffic to my blog with the litecoin article
bitcoinpete: man the world cup wouldn't be 1/10th as interesting w/o bitbet
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mircea_popescu: what's jcpham's gay nick these days ?
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gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: there are prolly holes in it tho
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mthreat: <mircea_popescu> mthreat wouldja be interested in filling in the logs for the first missing year, and generate a drop-in blob kakobrekla can put into his log thing too ? << sure, do you have the logs for the first year?
kanzure: also open to suggestions for other graffiti options
kanzure: i was thinking painting this over the beige panels: http://ih3.redbubble.net/image.15027782.1633/fc,550x550,asphalt.u1.jpg
kanzure: asciilifeform: still trying to figure out how to paint the device,
asciilifeform: took ages to dig up the english
asciilifeform: unrelated to anything (save possible the legal sophistries discussions):
mircea_popescu: what's your bell come to by the\ way ?
mircea_popescu: there was this duckling earlier.
Vexual: calced exactly the whisky to sleep for 8 hours
Vexual: i tried to go to the thing in hong kong
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this works on americans. who routinely manage to light themselves up when trying to start backyard fires
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you familiar with this supposed siberian torture technique, give naked victim gasoline and a book of matches and let them be ?
benkay: and while I *know* that nothing is new under the sun, i still learned last night that cuntshaving's been a thing forever.
benkay: okay so in this book of historical erotica i was browsing at the party last night in place of the utterly inane conversation of drunks and the unemployable i discovered a print titled 'the barber', where some woman was having her cooch shaved
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asciilifeform: best done by one skilled in the art.
asciilifeform: light coat of high-boiling fuel on skin won't burn the latter - watch a stage magician set own hands on fire, etc
mircea_popescu: they brazilian wax FOR SPORT
mircea_popescu: benkay you have no idea how far the female threshold is.
benkay: dissolves the hair, asciilifeform ?
asciilifeform: (reminds me of the russian ww2 recipe for a quick shave - petrol.)
asciilifeform: go find the fellow who'll agree to shave with this.
benkay: it seems to cook the follicle...
mircea_popescu: " the spark of static one sometimes gets when touching grounded objects in winter time" << he means, when wearing mixed wool and plastic clothing
asciilifeform: for those who don't own this toy - it is rather like the spark of static one sometimes gets when touching grounded objects in winter time, but - constantly
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually it's jolting if inserted up the cunt
asciilifeform laughed when, decades hence, saw the same in american sex shops
asciilifeform: benkay: my parents had a soviet gizmo that consisted of exactly such a tube, with small tesla coil in the handle (dermatological crackpot medicine) so i got to see/feel mr t's tube on own hide.
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cowloon: but, I'm just here to lurk at the moment
asciilifeform: (or the valve aficionados)
mircea_popescu: and to push a point, im pretty sure the mosfets are unchanged
asciilifeform: funny that you mention roms, because vintage arcade machine enthusiasts go through astounding gymnastics to replicate the behaviour of '80s roms.
asciilifeform: that was the objective. some semblance of guarantee.
asciilifeform: what computer-based product, on the shelf today, can be guaranteed manufacturable 50 years hence?
asciilifeform: (naggum is known to have worked in ada. hence his familiarity with the matter)
asciilifeform: one of the last gasps of reason from that institution
asciilifeform: all of this took place in the long-gone era when usg insisted on full blueprints, chip masks (!) etc. to ensure longevity of a complete design
asciilifeform: they could have, in principle, picked tex, but the latter has no hard spec for graphics.
asciilifeform: the result was a mega-backbreaker - like Ada. but it sorta worked.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: with the idea that under no circumstances would the death of one, two, hundred vendors lead to unreadable texts
mircea_popescu: "when you write manuals for naval or air force vessels, you don't use MS Word and hope Microsoft doesn't come out with yet another incompatible disservice pack and/or upgrade, you use CALS and enterprise-wide publishing systems."
benkay: i don't know that the women *can't* have kids so much as the men aren't interested in being fathers or even men
Mats_cd03: 17:14:14 mircea_popescu: i live in fear of this, btw, one of these days one of you assholes is going to script the noob and then i'll have to close down the whole operation ;/
mircea_popescu: "dead or dying software projects lie around all over the place, like a horrible war zone between ignorant users and frightened managers"
benkay: families also paint great big huge murals on their intersections to slow cars down.
benkay: there are a lot of underemployed hipster girls about tho - and none of 'em can make a life where they can afford babies in the states anymore. ergo, tree-sweaters.
mircea_popescu: t into the Lisp world. they don't have to. if you want to learn Lisp, you go learn Lisp and talk to nice people who probably have time for you, and you make yourself good at it. then you go do complex stuff that insecure losers who lie about their Java skills can't even imagine, and therefore do not consider part of the competition."
mircea_popescu: " Lisp is not the kind of language that insecure losers would use. people do not want to learn Lisp because they stand a better chance of beating another unskilled fool in the job race. fact is: you don't get a job by lying about your Lisp skills. all of this means that there is very little activity at the front gate, where all the journalists and the media are. there are no people struggling like mad to ge
benkay waits for the scathing critique of all things America
benkay: you'll see them down in bsas as well.
benkay: or the World Naked Bike Ride, or Pedalpalooza in general.
benkay: people are into their stuff entirely unabashedly. although here, it's knitting sweaters for trees and not sawing off epic hunks of meat.
mircea_popescu: well of coursethey want something. all living things want stuff.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: I've been surrounded by 20 year olds for the past decade...they always want something...
mircea_popescu: <thestringpuller> benkay: "OMG I smelle riches and success. *blush blush blush*. I want a hug now!!!!" << dun be an asshole, maybe she's just fun loving.
mircea_popescu: basically her refusal to give him what she gives the whole pack is a slight, but one he has no redress for : she's already an outcast.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller the idea being that an utter whore denying the pack leader any fucking has a decent chance to drive him mad and end up in some sort of "that obscure object of desire " situation.
thestringpuller: instagator how? Like "you should get some hugs from them cute girls" ?
benkay: relatedly, lady v and i were saying goodbyes at a dinner party last night, all of the girls with whom i'm friends with at this thing lined up for hugs and kisses - and then the new girl in the room gets up and right in line as well, demanding hers giggling and blushing all the while
thestringpuller: the former or latter?
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mircea_popescu: thestringpuller nah, that's ancient whore strat. i even wrote it up im pretty sure
mircea_popescu: well yeah. but by playing hard to get you may get +10 on your average catch, but also get the guarantee you're never getting in the bed of that 0.whatever%
mircea_popescu: if she doesn't have thesense to realise she's accidentally run into the absolute best, she can't be all that smart in the first place.
benkay: well if we can rathole on the evolutionary psychology thing playing hard to get raises the bar for potential impregnators.
mircea_popescu: it so happens that i won't even consider women that don't, i'm pretty sure the top generally doesn't, and so it's a quite dangerous strat.
benkay: going back to yesterdays conversation about the dearth of leadership and stones etc
benkay: those post-25 year old females punch below their weight too - only way to recruit a provider at that phase of life.
mircea_popescu: intriguing theory off random derpy blog http://www.therulesrevisited.com/2011/10/upper-hand-in-relationships.html
mircea_popescu: hem than they do about the girls, even if only by a small amount. In other words, men only have the upper hand because they have this tendency to play below their league."
mircea_popescu: "And more to the point here, it is the reason why women often feel that men have "the upper hand" in relationships. That feeling doesn't exist because men are dominant over women or have some kind of real advantage; it is just because men are strongly motivated by sex, and therefore get into relationships with girls they don't really care about - or at least, they get into relationships with girls who care more about t
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