bitcoinpete: i'm just not familiar with the sop
bitcoinpete: but there's an undefined (to me) grey area prior to that point
bitcoinpete: i completely understand that betting after an event has occurred, even if the bet is still "open" warrants a simple refund less admin fee
bitcoinpete: 1 hr before they can possibly by resolved? 6 hrs?
bitcoinpete: curious what the cut-off is on bitbets for future reference
bitcoinpete: kakobrekla: no, didn't get the answer
mircea_popescu: benkay the day you're ready to zerconf 1k btc for a 2 year bet.
mike_c: tar and feather before hanging
asciilifeform dreamt last night that he was to be hanged, but couldn't afford to pay for the roap and the grease - so was sent home to save up.
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 maybe we're talking at xpurposes, was your 300mn the total money thrown in the hole ?
asciilifeform: the one found in apartment lobby with rope marks
asciilifeform: didn't they hang that btc exchange chick in Sg ?
mircea_popescu: not likely that someone sneaks into baghdad and surrepitiously hangs the pm
mircea_popescu: if by august 15h maliki has been hanged in the middle east, bet resolves as yes. if he's living in lonon, bet resolves as no. otherwise, bet cancels.
Mats_cd03: sending his kids to oxford and the like
kakobrekla: there will be plenty of those irrelevant of what we do
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu hm? compact disc them?
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kakobrekla: ;;later tell bitcoinpete did you get the answer?
rithm: the jimmy buffet dude
mircea_popescu: i wonder if search finds the more than a car thing lessee
rithm: the only person to successfully scam me has perjured himself in court and is fighting the SEC
assbot: BitBet - Costa Rica will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage :: 0.41 B (35%) on Yes, 0.75 B (65%) on No | closed 2 days 16 hours ago
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete: wondering who did the admin for http://bitbet.us/bet/921/costa-rica-will-advance-from-the-2014-world/ << why ?
mircea_popescu: rithm: this 2 factor voice just makes me want to stalk and watch everyone << kinda the point
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd love to see how these folks intend to paint india without triggering nuke 'test'
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: it'll either be fun, or batshit insane << ahaha srsly, going to the tortilla conference ?!
asciilifeform: re: link: mircea_popescu and i must be the last people alive using 'squirrelmail'
mike_c: lol. jurov, that image will definitely be useful in the future.
benkay: sent that to a guy i know over at ebay mobile whose "vision quest to set the visual style fo ebay mobile" has been relegated to the...ipad app.
benkay: " but as we formalize our road map, we're formalizing the teams working on those buckets."
BingoBoingo: benkay: Wait till you get to the comments
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jurov: nubbins` ThickAsThieves pankkake etc... you're to cease and desist using mpex/coinbr before the PCMLTFA takes comes into effect
mike_c: what's the point of charging? if i ever want to make some pennies i'll toss up a BB affiliate ad.
mike_c: thestringpuller: i'm more likely to pay people to read it than to charge :)
mthreat: mike_c: assbot is indexed. add "isbot:true" or "isbot:false" to include only bots, or remove them, respectively.
Apocalyptic: "I made a deposit and started to play. The games were a little glitch, especially Blackjack" // huh
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/bitbetus/internet/bitbetus-Is-something-you-should-really-AVOID-1155798 << do you want to bother and CD them ?
nubbins`: Mats_cd03: can do, but shipping would be the killer. better to get it done locally
mike_c: well, i was trying to search for "f.derp", but seems it didn't like the period
HeySteve: cool I should rate you also, plus quite a few others
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HeySteve: yeah mircea_popescu, the one I linked to above
mthreat: there are "Caffe del Doge" in buenos aires
mircea_popescu: HeySteve o wait, were you with the one crypto news site i kinda liked ?
mircea_popescu: they never tm'd it ?
HeySteve: Dogecoin getting copyright trolled - "Ultra Pro International, a case and sleeve company, announced plans to trademark the word “Doge.”"
mthreat: in case the first one didn't work
HeySteve: ok thanks, I think that covers it. I have written up some pre-amble then will add these lines verbatim apart from adding capitalisation and punctuation. will ask if any further questions come up.
mircea_popescu: pankkake: and of course Goat is on every bitcoin scam apparently << he just pumps them.
ThickAsThieves: commenters saying i stole the bet wording! slander
HeySteve: mircea_popescu ok and you say these are synthetic instruments... this means you don't own or have borrowed any shares in the companies?
mircea_popescu: whereas people wanting them long prolly want to stock pick
mircea_popescu: this because logically nobody who wants them short cares which
mircea_popescu: HeySteve too much hassle with future chains. if you want them short you buy f.derp, if you want them long you just get to select d.whatever
HeySteve: mircea_popescu, why not just create futures or some other instruments over these companies, which could be traded long or short?
rithm: there's a certain judge and we just (not i) a suborndinate installed his new computer
mircea_popescu: so in their perspective, this is a disaster of commons sort of situation : a bunch of people work to inflate bubbles, all it takes to ruin theireffort is one guy with a pin
mircea_popescu: the entire vc circuit lives out of hype.
mircea_popescu: but daily call logs have at the end : "spam - comcast, netflix, pizzahut" etc
HeySteve: mircea_popescu heh some people probably won't appreciate this fund, but it expands an investor's options so I don't see the downside
mircea_popescu: HeySteve not really. i don't think the world has spawned yet such an asshole so as to be able to match with me.
mircea_popescu: punkman: they just called 3 times to sell me a new ISP << they call my phone here too. to sell me... comcast and shit.
mircea_popescu: that's the one profession that most selects for lemming qualities. more so than military even
ThickAsThieves: and thus theyll all do it
ThickAsThieves: i think the need to buy bitocin in addition to any VC investment related to a bitcoin co is obvious
mircea_popescu: HeySteve no timing involved. if you sell your corp in the bubble and walk away you shorted the bubble.
ThickAsThieves: i dont think the btc startup bubble will be nearly as bad
mircea_popescu: so the guys who... SHORTED IT
mircea_popescu: Namworld: Getting there slowly. << what's your horizon, next year like ?
ThickAsThieves: sounds like these bitcoin company CEOs
mircea_popescu: (and i don't mean "were briefly rich during the bubble". i mean "are rich today and were not before that")
HeySteve: few were wise enough to sell or short at the top
HeySteve: hmm many got rich then poor in quick succession
mircea_popescu: name a dozen, then see what % did it by shorting it.
mircea_popescu: yes. can you name people that got rich in the dot com bubble ?
HeySteve: well... it seems many startups are raking in king's ransoms just because there's a lot of enthusiasm around Bitcoin... so by shorting, you are risking exposure to these kind of bubbles?
mircea_popescu: funny how blinders work, you know ? these people have... finance lawyers. who went to school and lived in a pond
mircea_popescu: HeySteve on their alleged funding, yes.
ThickAsThieves: someone needs to make sure these VCs know about your offer, they can haz MOAR BitPay
mircea_popescu: cazalla: little to contribute, much to learn - how does that sit with others who have come to that realisation here? << i just try to pretend it's philosophy :D
HeySteve: so it's decided purely on their funding?
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mircea_popescu: For everyi Series A / seed funding announced by the circlejerk that is either in excess of 1 million USD or for a company valued through such funding over 100 million USD, I will create a synthetic asset on MPEx.
BingoBoingo: HeySteve: It will be on ESPN with the fifty or so other bowl games that happen in december
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i don't mind them either, honestly, but a) people found out about gallippi's past, and generally, the thing's coming apart. gotta cut them loose.
ThickAsThieves: their loss, our gain
ThickAsThieves: go ahead an advertise the shit outta bitcoin
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 the guy's own money! he can spend it any old way he wants!
BingoBoingo: HeySteve: Bitpay is sponsoring a fucking bowl game. They probably spent ~10% of their last round on a notoriously poor form of advertising.
ThickAsThieves: this is why they brag and compete over new notable merchants, it's all they have - those contract terms
mircea_popescu: HeySteve yes, as mentioned in the article. any corps that make bold claims in the future will go in there.
ThickAsThieves: bitpay/coinbase only chance is landing exclusive contracts with poor terms for the merchant (still a leech job)
HeySteve: any plans to add further companies?
mircea_popescu: of course, coinbase is a piece of shit, but there';s no requirement that next competitor is also a piece of shit
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller deal.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: lol bitcoin-assets will develop irc tools that will give irccloud a run for their money... << will ? seriously ? show me irc tools that can compare.
asciilifeform: 'bitpay' is to btc use is as 'wine' (winblows emulation gizmo) is to the use of linux.
HeySteve: ok it sounds like you've taken a very close look into their financials. could you explain what you mean by burn rate?
mircea_popescu: they're trying to leech it, which only works for so long. what's worse, their burn rate is killing them.
mircea_popescu: the success of bitpay has exactly zero to do with the success of bitcoin, is the problem.
HeySteve: I don't know much about BitGo honestly, but it seems the success of BitPay is very closely linked with Bitcoin's success. doesn't that make this something of a bet against Bitcoin's continued merchant adoption?
mircea_popescu: this, of course, is a very old story : with the exception of mpex listed corps, it is universally true of any other exchange or broad group.
mircea_popescu: so someone with 30mn looking to invest in bitcoin would have been better served by buying bitcoin than participating in the series a.
mircea_popescu: well, more properly put, the reasoning is that they will never make in the course of their business enough money to pay back that round of investment.
HeySteve: ok from the original post (checking for new ones) I take it the reasoning is that they're overvalued?
HeySteve: ok the companies concerned are BitPay and BitGo?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: is it still too late to get trackign added? <<< ahahaha no dude, it was too late before, but we've been doing -t for a while so now it's too early
ThickAsThieves: otherwise
ThickAsThieves: to get them blue without being purple is hard
mircea_popescu: she's feeling something she ain't felt since forever. Pain. Pain. It hurts her. It shouldn't hurt her, you know, her pussy should be Bubble Yum by now, but when this cat fucks her it hurts. It hurts just like it did the first time. You see the pain is reminding a fuck machine what it once was like to be a virgin. Hence, 'Like a Virgin'.
mircea_popescu: Mr. Brown: Lemme tell you what 'Like a Virgin' is about. It's all about this cooze who's a regular fuck machine, I'm talking morning, day, night, afternoon, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick. Then one day she meets this John Holmes motherfucker and it's like, whoa baby, I mean this cat is like Charles Bronson in the 'Great Escape', he's digging tunnels. Now, she's gettin' the serious dick action and
ThickAsThieves: deep blues are the hardest
BingoBoingo: Picking colors I think the priority should be, what would be the biggest pain in nubbins` ass...
mircea_popescu: either farts or wing turbulence.
mircea_popescu: dude, if it were made from the winds...
ThickAsThieves: made from the winds of extinct dragonflies or whatever
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rithm: #bitcoin-rithm is where we spin-the-bottle and decide if Willy trends up or down
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assbot: BitBet - Costa Rica will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage :: 0.41 B (35%) on Yes, 0.75 B (65%) on No | closed 2 days 14 hours ago
bitcoinpete: ;;later tell kakobrekla on the costa rica bet, http://bitbet.us/bet/921/costa-rica-will-advance-from-the-2014-world/#b11 was made around 55' mark of the game. the team clinched after the final whistle was blown at 90+4'. Granted, this is close. But how close is too close in world cup betting?
fluffypony: rithm: no, the mining assets are all turds - many are outright scams, the rest are USD profitable and not BTC profitable
rithm: or is the mining turd still prevalent
rithm: are any of the mining based assets not "turds"
rithm: the rest is history.
bitcoinpete: benkay: the startle was from my intoxicating confidence. those poor girls hadn't the faintest clue where they went wrong.
rithm: then i went to #freenode and got me cloak changed
rithm: it seems like another reality
fluffypony: and BO2k was the shit
rithm: there was a kid named rithm
rithm: obv i knew how to use freeshell long before the kids
fluffypony: so won't the real fluffypony please stand up
rithm: all other ponies are immatators
rithm: rithm is the real fluffypony
Apocalyptic: rithm is all the things
rithm: also i named all my kids with the same initials
rithm: he's one of the "top 4 scammers"
assbot: BitBet - Costa Rica will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage :: 0.41 B (35%) on Yes, 0.75 B (65%) on No | closed 2 days 13 hours ago
bitcoinpete: wondering who did the admin for http://bitbet.us/bet/921/costa-rica-will-advance-from-the-2014-world/ … kakobrekla ?
Apocalyptic: he missed the doge boat
rithm: all the supakilla accounts are mine too
rithm: i pissed off the wrong scammer one day?
benkay: what's the story with those -10's?
rithm: fuck the internet i'll do whatever i want
fluffypony: the last time rithm was serious Clinton was still in office
Apocalyptic: benkay, I asked the same a while ago, got a not so serious answer
benkay: why the new nick, rithm/jcpham?
rithm: raise the roof
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rithm: that's the result of your assbot
Mats_cd03: BingoBoingo: might be a hard shell on the inside, its been a while
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: There's two tortillas?
fluffypony: but we mostly went for the margaritas
Mats_cd03: a quesarito is a burrito with the shell of a quesadilla, melted cheese between two tortillas
fluffypony: there is a decent enough Mexican restaurant in Cape Town
fluffypony: it'll either be fun, or batshit insane
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: The tortilla conference?
fluffypony: jurov: no, I came up to Jhb on Friday so I could see friends and visit my 84 year old grandmother
fluffypony: there are 3 different business lounges I have access to, so I'm on my second one
dignork: Illuminate the path to crypto-justice - priceless
dignork: Pouwelse at the Delft University of Technology
dignork: Mats_cd03: "The presented work has been conducted by"
TomServo attempts to retain the contents of his stomach.
BingoBoingo: In the hat region
nubbins`: but! on the bright side, this new one is color. and does wifi.
nubbins`: well. another new drum
nubbins`: we have a book printing job and the old one broke last night :(
kakobrekla: it sez .us on the first link
kakobrekla: what they are doing is extortion, and being bad at it.
pankkake: if that is true, yet another forum vip scammer https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=659828.msg7429617#msg7429617
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moiety: not unlike the cambots i keep getting on skype
moiety: punkman: lolololol "go die" "ok just so you know, the terms are..." classic ninjashogun
punkman: they just called 3 times to sell me a new ISP
Diablo-D3: [12:13:01] <thestringpuller> whatever happened to Diablo-D3? Didn't he have some million dollar datacenter idea he would always talk about?
moiety: you're not giving up which is the main thing Namworld :]
Namworld: Getting there slowly.
moiety: you can learn to contribute the more information you are armed with
cazalla: little to contribute, much to learn - how does that sit with others who have come to that realisation here?
moiety: theres only one BB here XD but np, you obviously read the guides, logs are next. lots to soak in
moiety: mircea_popescu: good blame though right?! lol it's the manuls, not me! >.>
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nubbins`: too late to add express shipping, shirt's in the mail ;(
thestringpuller: is the forums?
nubbins`: still active there
thestringpuller: nubbins`: what do you mean by still on the forums?
xmj: joecool: the answer determines my answer to Mats_cd03's question.
Namworld: Pops around ever other month
thestringpuller: i'd always call him the king of thailand and he would always say not to joke about that because they'd kill him if they caught someone calling him that...
nubbins`: still on the forums
Namworld: He's living the good life in thailand I think
mthreat: benkay: you mean the fact that "from: username" doesn't parse right?
thestringpuller: lol bitcoin-assets will develop irc tools that will give irccloud a run for their money...
mthreat: or really just searching for 'username' with no field specifier will work because I put the irc nick in the default search field
mthreat: (from the http log, i mean)
mthreat: benkay: I'm noticing from the log - it looks like "from: username" isn't being parsed right, remove the space to make it work right
mthreat: oldest trick in the book
benkay: mthreat: mostly 'cause you put my name on the front
moiety: also updated guide is in the wiki
moiety: well extra this is the most useful channel in bitcoinland, the logs are a good place to begin :]
moiety: oh you all know each other? how so?
extra: who says I didn't read the topic
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benkay: but if you want to hang around, you both need to get into the web of trust
benkay: to or at one side, with respect to place, purpose, or function: to put money apart for education; to keep apart from the group out of pride.
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Mats_cd03: http://newenergyandfuel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/The-Gribble-aka-Limnoria-quadripunctata.jpg
moiety: i just saw a gribble for the first time! quite cute actually
thestringpuller: or on the moon
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: when I see OIX on mpex website still, makes me hope the options market comes back one day :(
Mats_cd03: or , if you are lazy like me , pay for the privilege -> irccloud
moiety: have to release my nick and re-auth every other hour
moiety: i feel chax's pain, this mobile broadband life is irritating the hell out of me. mbb and gribble dont get along
Mats_cd03: is this the guy whos bsaas project was on hn front page today
moiety: !up chax thought i scared you there XD
mircea_popescu: anyway, lulzy this thing. guy builds a nice strawman, knocks it down, thanks god for disqus nobody's gonna bother him that way.