diana_coman: but no real need to spend time on looking at moving cs, is there?
mircea_popescu: so, basically, the way this is going is, server on protocuntoo for now and cuntoo in the future ; and ~demo~ client on proto-cuntoo and let the community make whatever it wants.
mircea_popescu: or if only people would start running in general, as opposed to the current decerebrated snailcircle. w/e.
diana_coman: nobody would dictate them anything for sure.
diana_coman: if only people would start running their own clients!
diana_coman: all right; I'm all for *not* taking on yet another pile of wtf
diana_coman: so in this sense there's currently little reason to sink time into porting cs
mircea_popescu: i'm not even necessarily sure that i want to push it into the gfx stack.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: ah, I see; I suppose the thing is that cuntoo is currently a server-side system really (no X)
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, it's the same pile of junk ; but it's very different in terms of utility / justification for impac tin my mind is all.
mircea_popescu: people don't like it, people come here ask how to help [trilema.com/2018/the-republic-without-mp/][like good doobies], thing's fixed in no time. otherwise people are more then welcome to go fuck their ugly mothers / cluck on facebook until they fall over.
mircea_popescu: gotta consider the environment such as it is.
mircea_popescu: they just... ignore it.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: there is that, indeed.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 11:41:51 diana_coman: maintaining the frozen dulap-gentoo recipe + all and deploying that + still having afterwards to make the switch to cuntoo when it's ready
diana_coman: there would be perhaps some bits like movement calculation but there is no possible reason I can see for that to pull in the whole cs or something ffs; ie it can be done separately, why wouldn't it.
mircea_popescu: so i suppose this is the first actionable we unveil here : ima want an estimate on a) how long to divorce dev server from cs ; and b) how long to move client cs on cuntoo.
diana_coman: and otherwise there is no point to using cs on server as far as I can see; wtf does the server need a graphics engine
mircea_popescu: but it's not a proper dependency, just data types nonsense, classes etc, like with the sad "int" nonsense of yore ?
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: production server "uses" cs because it's intertwined with it (uses data types and the like)
mircea_popescu: as far as just the server is concerned, does it even use cs for anything ?
mircea_popescu: let's not mix the client into this just for a moment
diana_coman: if we might squeeze without, it's a whole lot of effort&time not poured in there
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: are we fine with cs as-is on client side? there are 2 aspects there: 1. dynamically linked 2. the dependency on jam/ftjam and all that
diana_coman: maintaining the frozen dulap-gentoo recipe + all and deploying that + still having afterwards to make the switch to cuntoo when it's ready
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: my main question here would be whether it's worth this intermediate proto-cuntoo step
diana_coman: yes; so we keep then to frozen proto-cuntoo with an idea to hopefully be able to move on to cuntoo when that is ready + we have everything statically linking.
diana_coman: to fully clarify: I can boot both/either servers on dulap-gentoo on either amd or intel hardware
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 11:31:53 mircea_popescu: can you boot the server as things stand at all ?
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: ah, I missed the "at all" nuance in your second question http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-06#1949741 ie I was still in cuntoo-env
diana_coman: so if we go that route, this would be the first thing to sort out
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-14 14:18:25 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-13#1945106 - got around to it and can confirm I got it working on Intel too (with minimal changes of kernel config ie selecting Intel rather than AMD flags)
mircea_popescu: so even if we had hardware you couldn't bring one up ? what was the "testing" in re http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-14#1945429 ?!
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: atm as they are none will boot because none are fully statically linked.
mircea_popescu: well, either, both. you know, run them, what exactly could be involved here ? does your car work or is it just drawn
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: what do you mean exactly by "boot the server"? (and which one: production or dev?)
mircea_popescu: can you boot the server as things stand at all ?
diana_coman: I'm rather relieved to hear that because indeed, cuntoo is the best candidate I see so far
mircea_popescu: can you actually boot the server on cuntoo as things stand ?
mircea_popescu: now practically, seems cuntoo is (by far, actually) the least mangy dog in that horse stable, so i guess we're in the business of making it a horse.
mircea_popescu: the choice before me here is strictly to either a) tell bvt to desist, as the kernel is too cool to be touched by our derpy hands ; or else b) have some kinda process to use custom, bespoke, patched kernels.
mircea_popescu: once the kernel has a tty hole in the right place, and the right place is under republican control, i'd say the goal has been done well.
mircea_popescu: then as need be use either the historical fg, an upgraded item, or basically speaking ~anything else.
mircea_popescu: more broadly what i'm thinking to do is let bvt continue his work on kernelization, because a) the current kernel randomness code is pure shit and b) using a serial interface as the standard is perfectly fine
mircea_popescu: so on the 2, to start with that
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: I can add detail if/where needed but atm I don't have something I see to add there.
mircea_popescu: are you basically spent in that you've said your piece there and you'djust be stuck reiterating ?
diana_coman: this would be my list, let me know if I should detail any point in there.
diana_coman: as per http://ossasepia.com/2019/11/05/eulora-smg-taking-a-different-sort-of-stock/ I think there are a few points:
BingoBoingo: Goes with being located at an extreme point on the map. All I gotta do is wave North and everyone's covered within a reasonable margin of error, Porteños notably outside the salutation.
diana_coman: aha, I enjoyed the part 0 :)
diana_coman: but ftr, the fact he writes those in parts is because I set him to do that (as a cure to wasting time otherwise).
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/the-road-to-stupidity-part-0/ << Trilema -- The road to stupidity, part 0
spyked: indeed. that happened some years ago (burned a disk), which is when I decided to at the very least ups.
diana_coman: but you know, if the "few times" when it goes down it fucks your electronics, I have no idea how you get to "no complaints"
spyked: srsly tho, I have no complaints about the service most of the time. but the few times power goes down, it has to be intermittently and with spikes
diana_coman: spyked: lol, you're setting a bounty there!
spyked will be offline for most of today, so if this happens again will have to torch the local enel offices or something
spyked: feedbot is back online, sorry for the downtime (biannual unplanned power outage at house mogosanu)
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/11/8chan-briefly-revived-on-bulletproof-hosting-now-offline-after-provider-put-them-on-unregistered-ip-addresses/ << Qntra -- 8Chan Briefly Revived On Bulletproof Hosting, Now Offline After Provider Put Them On Unregistered IP Addresses
mod6: Hi there all, here's the Foundation Report for October (posted on the website until the ML issue is resolved, or replaced): http://thebitcoin.foundation/reports/btcf_address_201910.txt
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as scientist "by himself". contrary to whatever mistaken notions poor schooling, science is a purely rational process ; the incommunicably stubborn self-directed bullshit ain't science ~except by accident~.
mircea_popescu: the difference between the two readily ilustrated by the issue of recourse : if the fisherman fails to fish, he HAS recourse. if the magician fails to summon, he... has no recourse. can "try again", exactly like before. that's all.
mircea_popescu: ive who buries random objects a foot apart in the dirt, fish like corn cobs alike, because that's what he's doing. even if the former returns empty handed and the latter happens to strike a combination that works, nothing changes : one's human and the other not, one's rational and the other's just some flavour of magician.
mircea_popescu: and in other importan points : asciilifeform is not a ~scientist~. asciilifeform is a scienpriest. the difference between the two is that the scientist follows some kind of meaningful structure of reality, that is communicable. "paradigm" or whatever. the scienpriest simply follows his own internal madness. there's a deep difference between the fisherman who goes fishing because there's fish to be fished, adn the primit
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-05#1949577 << I'm sold on 'articles', tho it dun help the cause any that the mp-wp database uses the 'posts' terminology everywhere (posts table, post_id, post_content, etc.)
BingoBoingo: Anyways, articles are the future. Noun posts need actual holes dug.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: The process of construction rarely focuses on the aesthetics of process regardless of how much aesthetics factor into the final product.
lobbes: okay, !Xhelp fixed (got borked in the move between boxes looks like)
lobbes: diana_coman: idk wtf is going on with the !Xhelp command (I'll check this out), but the help page is here if ya need it again: http://www.krankendenken.com/2018/10/auctionbot-is-live/
BingoBoingo: English isn't a consistent enough language for me to want to save the noun "post" on blogs through comparison to other English language constructions.
hanbot: right, but is writ:written::post:posted ? does the act of ordering scrub 'writ' of its grating-ness? or is the seemingly obvious connection between written and writ wholly imagined?
mircea_popescu: traditionally, the notation behind legal proceedings.
BingoBoingo: hanbot: A writ seems like something determined important enough that the order was issued to have the matter written into a writ.
BingoBoingo has thought of a blog post as being like a fence post. A structural piece holding together the larger blog as a whole. The poor labeling argument however does carry more weight than my previously private metaphor.
mircea_popescu: yes, and you're cordially invited to do it on facebook. you could similarily cook using something other than a stove -- such as for instance, an open pit fire. you're cordially invited to do that with your berber brethren, rather than indoors. and so on.
PeterL: mircea_popescu: that is an article that contains a picture of a cat. My point is that you could post something other than an article.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-05-24 02:56:37 mircea_popescu: what do you find scarier, a mouth open so wide you can see the teeth, or a mouth open so wide you can't even see the teeth ?
mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-05#1949614 << which is the problem : you belong on facebook.
mircea_popescu: if any girly cunt substance gets in there it permanently ruins things.
mircea_popescu: re just scary, the entire existence of all these boi clubs, "open source", "being an engineer" etcetera is predicated on the conceptual treefort.
mircea_popescu: they
mircea_popescu: the funny thing is i thought there was a chan in that vein registered already. wasn't there ?!
snsabot: Logged on 2019-11-05 08:41:55 mp_en_viaje: peterl & all : would you mind terribly if you referred to your articles, on your blogs, as articles ? it's what they are, i get it, you post them, but calling them "posts" makes about as much sense as calling cars "a drived" and girls "a fucked". you don't go about bars with a "hey, fucked! wanna do shots ?", do you ?
PeterL: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-11-05#1949532 << The way I understand, on a blog (short for web log), a post refers to any item, which could be an article. Most posts are articles, I will try to refer to them as such in the future.
diana_coman: lobbes: where's the help page for auctionbot these days? when I pm-ed it with !Xhelp it turned all windows-help on me: auctionbot> Default help. Known commands: help, ping
mircea_popescu: aite then
spyked: hm. also, it's possible it might have missed some when I purged the notification queue following the spam this weekend. lemme know if they still don't get delivered when you go online using mircea_popescu
spyked: mp_en_viaje, there are currently some pending messages to mircea_popescu, but none to mp_en_viaje
mp_en_viaje: lol but how, they're physical itemz
diana_coman: if they get delivered in eulora it'd be grand.
mp_en_viaje: ftr, there's 10 ecu to the bitcent, meaning the above's priced at a fraction of a fiat cent currently.
mp_en_viaje: there we go.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-04 08:05:05 mp_en_viaje: comments welcome ; as things currently stand i'm thinking a one week auction starting tomorrow is the way to go here.
mp_en_viaje: in any case, the morphological description of the articulation of thought : a pile of articles, and the web of links tieing them together.
mp_en_viaje: attributively, to limit the application of a noun to one individual or set of individuals" is from 1530s, from this sense in Latin articulus, translating Greek arthron.
mp_en_viaje: Meaning "literary composition in a journal, etc." (independent and on a specific topic, but part of a larger work) is first recorded 1712. The older sense is preserved in Articles of War "military regulations" (1716), Articles of Confederation (U.S. history), etc. Extended meaning "piece of property, material thing, commodity" (clothing, etc.) first attested 1796, originally in rogue's cant. Grammatical sense of "word used
mp_en_viaje: c. 1200, "separate parts of anything written" (such as the statements in the Apostles' Creed, the clauses of a statute or contract), from Old French article (13c.), from Latin articulus "a part, a member," also "a knuckle; the article in grammar," diminutive of artus "a joint," from PIE *ar(ə)-tu-, suffixed form of root *ar- "to fit together."
mp_en_viaje: nah, article is a wider word than that. "articles of incorporation" predates the newspaper / tin alley morti di fame trying to steal it.
diana_coman: yes, but "post" there for all its similarity to "to post to the blog" is just as made up, as far as I can see; a blog post, as there is a newspaper article, dunno; and in the vein of "just as much to do with what they are doing otherwise", wouldn't that hold for articles too?
mp_en_viaje: and re made up words... well of course ? i mean, all words are made up, what would be the alternative
mp_en_viaje: dude doesn't understand why software development ~couldn't~ be done in the past, which'd be the only point making a discussion of v worthwhile in the fist place.
diana_coman: myeah, except I would much rather give feedback to those who committed and work themselves to use it.
mp_en_viaje: things haven't changed because "the present" meanwhile turned into "in the past" through the unyielding workings of jesus' birth ever distancing itself from us at the rate of 1 year each easter.
mp_en_viaje: if indeed software could so be developed, then indeed it SHOULD CONTINUE.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, the reason i brought it up being specifically "In the past, software development could be done by applying a series of patches to arrive at a final program state. With v, the patch is replaced with the slightly different vpatch, as described below."
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2019-10-29 diana_coman: PeterL: and for completion, the application 2-steps process applies to you just the same as to any newcomer (if anything, due to do-nothing history, you start with a minus compared to them).
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-05 04:49:11 mp_en_viaje: otherwise, diana_coman http://peterl.xyz/2019/10/regarding-v/ << is this homework you assigned ?
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-05#1949535 - oh boy; it's a cribbed-assignment basically, aka he talked in #o nonsense over the head of people actually committed and working on it so I told him to go write on his blog what he wants and otherwise apply if he means anything.
mp_en_viaje: moreover, what we do has so little in common with what the bleaters call posts... the facebook items are properly called posts. dozen-charactger gibberish.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-05 04:46:58 mp_en_viaje: peterl & all : would you mind terribly if you referred to your articles, on your blogs, as articles ? it's what they are, i get it, you post them, but calling them "posts" makes about as much sense as calling cars "a drived" and girls "a fucked". you don't go about bars with a "hey, fucked! wanna do shots ?", do you ?
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-05#1949532 - technically it was "a blog post"; going for correctness there, I would even question wtf is "blog" anyway, since I get it, binary log except I don't write in binary, what.
mp_en_viaje: in other lulz, hey nicoleci ! check out what i found on trilema : http://trilema.com/2011/nicias-quidam/
mp_en_viaje: drama meanwhile's what happens when the gods get involved.
mp_en_viaje: anyways, to fix the tard's definition, since i had to fucking link idiots : epic does not mean "massive and imposing in scale or size". i get ~why~ socialism/ourdemocracy would THINK SO, but it's still not true. epic means "a story of men". quite literally, that's what it is, the discussion of heroes in heroic terms.
mp_en_viaje: that doth grate in romanian. in english by now it's... i guess it won. evidently maddox not that widely read / powerful linguistically
mp_en_viaje: (though, honestly, after that article the ro journo-hos took it out of the news, iirc the trend of "news reporters" calling rando events "sinistru" ended by early 2010s)
mp_en_viaje: can add "sinistru" to the list.
mp_en_viaje: alrighty then :D
spyked: it's commonly used among orcs, even the more educated ones. and well, I tend to pester the people I care about with locatie/loc and inovativ/inovator and so on.
mp_en_viaje: spyked, i wouldn't say "romanians" did it. piulitia did it, the sort of retarded wanna-be bureaucrat goat. "extorsiunea unui degajament", exactly.
mp_en_viaje: talk about that culture gap.
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in further lulz of very VERY scary mp petrifying engineers, http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=e8FF
spyked: tbf, I can see the argument. "article" was already there, so adding the "post" slang is somewhat similar to how romanians added the new meaning for "locatie" in the lang. what's wrong with "loc" anyway
mp_en_viaje: i dunno, it fucking grates, on the level of wow kiddos saying "rouge" for rogue and midwesterner 15yos saying "scratch" for "itch".
mp_en_viaje: otherwise, diana_coman http://peterl.xyz/2019/10/regarding-v/ << is this homework you assigned ?
mp_en_viaje: peterl & all : would you mind terribly if you referred to your articles, on your blogs, as articles ? it's what they are, i get it, you post them, but calling them "posts" makes about as much sense as calling cars "a drived" and girls "a fucked". you don't go about bars with a "hey, fucked! wanna do shots ?", do you ?
BingoBoingo: It will take a substantial interruption to not have the pre-closing statement published by midnight UTC
BingoBoingo also stood up the Pizarro www to assist checking the archaeology which is at the stage for checking instead of further digging.
BingoBoingo going to have to sleep before publishing Pizarro accounting. On the plus side receipts I had placed in a weathered envelope labeled "Keep" have finally been found in a pristine, unlabled envelope. There will be a paddling.
mp_en_viaje: hanbot, remarkably, diana_coman actually predicted the whole decay spiral last week. quite accurately, at that.
hanbot: re "related confict", gotta admit i've gotten rather sad from the way it's decayed. i guess stating it as such is my attempt to let it go; i've said what i thought was relevant on thewhet and well...pfft.
bvt: i didn't think any special activity was urgently required from me, and the blogpost with my comments on the matter will come a bit later; i can see re weak sample
mp_en_viaje: in the terminology of turns, people who don't get their turn are more likely to also not do anything to fix it. so i'm tryin to make a point of it.
mp_en_viaje: like, plainly : people who do a lot but don't talk a lot may be not talking a lot because they don't need to ; but may also not be talking for extraneous reasons, even though they do need to. it's impossible to dsicern which of the two is taking place from the other end, specifically because low volume = weak sample = no basis to guess.
mp_en_viaje: i'm mostly trying to avoid sourness in the vein of "i was doing X then things changed from under me", like eg at some point occured re cuntoo. seems to me low volume participants are particularly vulnerable -- not that low volume is in itself any kinda crime.
bvt: re closing of s.nsa an the related conflict, i will do a post on this (imo irc would be a bad medium for this purpose, at least for me). i can increase the priority of this post if people consider it a pressing matter.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-04 15:29:03 mp_en_viaje: incidentally, it occurs to me, bvt had just completed a large pile of work re getting the fg in the kernel.
bvt: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-04#1949422 << well, still have to do measurements (end of this week if everything goes right), then it would become possible to decide if everything works.
BingoBoingo: Good to hear. Here it has been the RioPlatense spring mix of rain, sun, heat, and mild chill, frequently all inside the same day.
mp_en_viaje: but as far as the weather goes, this was a superb autumn in yurp, had like one day of rain in five weeks' journeys, and even now, it's just sunny and beautiful.
BingoBoingo: nicoleci: I suspect his putting all of these things on his shoulders has the potential to be his healthiest course of action
nicoleci: mp_en_viaje, oh yes you're missing out....you should see that thing! asciilifeform couldn't convincingly larp an isp, & is now going to larp - the whole orchestra instead
BingoBoingo: Here I see more "ama de casa" used by housekeepers who've had their traditional arrangements fucked to hell by the local commies.
mp_en_viaje: alma = soul, casa = home. how they call a homebody i guess or somesuch. someone whose central pursuits is the maintaining of their home.
mod6: mp_en_viaje: Hmm, not sure if I understand the reference exactly. But yeah, had a whole pile of repairs to do around here. Has been keeping me on my toes since late sept.
mp_en_viaje: mod6, so mostly what the latinos call "alma de casa" ?
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: dunno, fwiw I rather think my previous piano-play xp actually helped a lot re typing-without-injuries.
mats: thanks diana_coman, ill read the logs
mp_en_viaje: mats, you know, these retrospective "what have i to show" saddened all sort of great minds to date. pepys' journal is fulla "lost my work / lost my toil" etc.
mod6: e archives. I think going forward we'll either need to get it in working order again, or find something new.
mod6: A bunch of different things: Looking at some options for work for next year, Q1 I think. Working on a whole parade of home-related repairs/upgrades. Following on and trying to help/give advise where I can re: Pizarro. Working on getting some of my blog posts re-posted. Spent a bit of time trying to get the Foundation's ML back working -- since I had a bunch of trouble with that, I've since just posted th
mats: in wow it depended on which class you played, i had arrangements like ctrl+shift+A|S|D|F, ctrl+alt+QWERTY, the dumbest ongoing error i have ever made
BingoBoingo: Anyone who takes their pursuits to the level of "sport" have a high incidence of either injury or odd physiological adaptations deviating from normal.
BingoBoingo suspects his peculiar typing habits (more tuba than piano finger movements) are responsible for a lack of keyboard time to wrist pain conenction. The downside of this is a non-trivial error rate in typing.
mats: i wasnt very good, iirc hovering around top 100 2v2, 3v3 teams on the most competitive server at the time
mp_en_viaje: what are you doing these days, anyways ?
mod6: Yeah, on the side of sanity river, these would be good starts to getting out of said hot-water.
mod6: mp_en_viaje: Well, like I was saying, the thought never entered my mind before; but figured, I'd better ask and see in case it does.
mp_en_viaje: ah ? i thought it's mostly the elaborate raiding gymnastics that do the player hands in. so... did you ever make the ladders ?
mp_en_viaje: i dunno, i guess my proverbial laziness saved me, i never got into the precision orchestra raid bs. wtf am i, a concert pianist ?
mp_en_viaje: mats, i expect over the past three decades i used computers for upwards of 50k hours. and yes, a good chunk of that was playng, but...
mp_en_viaje: wouldn't it be more towards this side of sanity river to actually be doing shit to crawl out of whatever bowl of soup, perhaps documenting them / working with the people specializing in helpong etc ?
mp_en_viaje: mod6, that's a rather weird way to think about it, don't you find ? wtf am i, the man-eating ogre ? and wtf are you, princess rapunzel, asleeep in a castle, waiting for prince to come wake you up with a kiss / eat your babies, at his options ?
diana_coman: mats: seriously, as aggressive as I might seem to you, maybe read the #ossasepia logs and figure some help out.
mats: i'm embarassed, and i haven't played the game in a decade
diana_coman: there are also exercises and all that but honestly if that's bad I can't consider the keyboard+mouse "fine"
mod6: mp_en_viaje: Thank you for the response. I don't plan on doing anything to get neg-rated. Just having been in the soup, as it were, for some time. Figured, my turn is coming. But I hope I'm wrong about that.
mp_en_viaje: what is he, like in his 30s ? this might be the worst case of carpal i ever heard of, good grief.
diana_coman: mats: sucks; but dunno, maybe really you need a custom-made keyboard /mouse? afaik from others it can make wonders; if the problem is that bad something is seriously wrong there.
mp_en_viaje: now, more's the point, what the fuck are you planning to do such that you think you should be negrated for it, and why the fuck would you.
mp_en_viaje: erested me to date, nor is likely to start interesting me in the future.
mp_en_viaje: mod6, i'm sorry, i don't have the time/patience to follow alf dramaz. re being negrated and mpex function, in general : i've always to date sent people their shit ~before~ negrating them, because indeed the substantive meaning of my negrating you is that you can't use any of mine / my friends' shit anymore. this hasn't prevented the occasional asshole from making the occasional false claims, which situation hasn't much int
diana_coman: mats: isn't your main goal now to make enough to escape? logically then you should go for whatever gets you the most money faster, no?
mats: ive been at it a while, unsure whether or not to throw in the towel and go back to doing jr mgmt 'cyber' nonsense where i'd be massively overcompensated for my ability
diana_coman: mats: isn't that something you can do from anywhere though? ie why not get out first (esp if otherwise strong pull so presumably the later you leave it the harder it gets)?
diana_coman: mats: so what's your concrete plan there and why is it slowly /in fits and starts?
mats: the former is proceeding slowly and latter in fits and starts, usa has a strong gravity
mp_en_viaje: mats, how's that coming along then ?
diana_coman: ah, hm, that's a point; yes, I think I will (though I do need to write stuff down there, huh).
mp_en_viaje: you gonna bid on the s.nsa auction then ? i really hope it's not gonna be a sad case of crickets.
diana_coman: I can see the overbulky angle.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, other than being perhaps overbulky, i can think of nothing wrong with the item.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: fwiw I looked those last days at the fg each and every way I could and I still like it; the only difference is that now I have to figure out some time somewhere and make one with own hands.
diana_coman: mats: there are in #o quite a few people who did that, maybe you can learn something there?
diana_coman: mats: wouldn't you want to become active? what help do you need there?
mp_en_viaje: incidentally, it occurs to me, bvt had just completed a large pile of work re getting the fg in the kernel.
mats: im not active, ive been following the various logs for about seven years
mats: enjoying the outdoors and new hobbies, nothing exciting
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Right. I expect the statement will be complete and the dispute period won't need anymore time than an auction does. The couple silent absentee customers will get their remaining customer equity pushed into their deedbot wallets. Loading the Feb/March 2018 - September 2019 stretch into the head again to make sure I'm not missing anything has been... a something.
mp_en_viaje: lobbes, the excerpter seems to be pretty thoroughly broken ; other than the weird you describe, it also apparently strips spaces incomprehensibly when doing the ?b=&e= automatic population for trackbacks. (for example http://trilema.com/2019/closing-statement-for-no-such-labs-snsa/?b=overthesix&e=over#select ; as pointed out by whaack )
BingoBoingo: After some period for auctions/claims, etc, it seems like that's the time to put a nail in it.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Sorry, still doing the numbers and accompanying log/notes archaeology. Unless I hit a very hard problem I'm probably 12-18 hours away from pushing out a "pre-closing statement" for people to make their claims against, etc.
mp_en_viaje: comments welcome ; as things currently stand i'm thinking a one week auction starting tomorrow is the way to go here.
mp_en_viaje: i'm further thinking this should proceed without reserve, since it's not possible they could sell for the 1.8 paperwork indicates, i can't think of some good way to obtain another value, and besides we want this to not take forever.
mp_en_viaje: i'm thinking the correct move here is to auction the lot (specifically, items 1, 2 and 4 through 7 on that list), the buyer to arrange delivery from us and uy at his pleasure.
mp_en_viaje: mkay, so unless i gravely misunderstand something, there do indeed seem to be some items that may be worth something in http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-01#1949202 ; namely a coupla opteron boxes and a dozen fgs + coupla more without trims.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo_, mod6 asciilifeform ^ by above item i'm to take receipt of 0.9 btc from someone there ; what's the status of pizarro liquidation ?
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/being-an-engineer-the-mental-disorder/ << Trilema -- "Being an engineer", the mental disorder
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : the usaf actually paradropped some early color revolutionaries in 1953. it... didn't work out.
spyked: so far looking at the rss list-of-items as an ordered list sounds like the simplest and cleanest approach, I currently dun see any reason why the blog would change that on reconfigs.
spyked: in other sunday rss epiphanies, I just figured out why this might not work while reading this. long story short, it's (currently) not a rule that articles are published and displayed in the rss feed in the order of postids. wp lets me publish e.g. ?p=398 a
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-02#1949366 <-- kinda gives me the impulse to make a pass through the whole blog. too bad he stopped posting in 2014 (minus the 2019 post on yebay)
BingoBoingo: jurov: The lateness is fine. What have you been up to recently?
jurov: ^ rather late, sorry
mircea_popescu: esp the comments
BingoBoingo: Nothing I've associated with the local XY population seems to have the same predictive value for this other than whether or not they are dressed in the traditional manner of the local Vaqueros.
BingoBoingo: The more of a pleasant exercised flare present, the more likely they are to be hostile to the local left
BingoBoingo has a hypothesis that the politics of most local females can be discerned through the shape of their ass. Seems to have far more predictive power than skin color or any other pseudoscientific traits.
BingoBoingo: Lots of derps out with commie flags today, Still in the awkward between campaigns period where actors in the local democracy gotta pick up all their shit from the previous campaign or get fined to hell.
hanbot: so can there be an...imbolunditatea?
diana_coman: hm, might be one of those that doesn't quite mean same across the mountains.
mircea_popescu: 17yo ilona goes to work "in town", in strul the 59 yo jew's household instead of playing with ferenc at the haystack ; drives ferenc bolond.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, nah, bolund is "madness in young men driven by females their age ensconced in bourgeois walls about"
hanbot: interesting contractions. anyway, a fine restatement of the problem of indolence.
mircea_popescu: item is imo moderately didactic, demonstrates selection-by-enumeration & selection-by-threshold in the bundle. can do errything.
diana_coman: aha; atm I'm aiming for basic "random article out of all"; let it be in Ro if it falls that way, what's the problem.
mircea_popescu: basicaly it 1. establishes the highest article guid ; 2. it picks a value up to that (with a lot of leverage for criteria, turns out i had a special ro-only thing made by alf's request at some point) and then requests it.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman here it is : http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=ALAE << there's two parts to it ; get_header(); is your syncing anchor.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, supposedly these are highly intelligent folk. supposedly the definition of "highly intelligent" is "can learn other than from bitter experience", nfi.
BingoBoingo: https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/villar-hay-aspectos-del-programa-del-fa-que-no-estan-en-plan-de-martinez-201911121275 << The anti-campaign
BingoBoingo: In local weather the Fat Forhead vice presidential can-nag-dit, absent from the campaign trail in the run up to the October elections... Is now being loud.
diana_coman: (and I couldn't find it searching trilema.com and the logs, did I miss it?)
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: can I get the random-post-on-landing-page trick that trilema uses? I'm weary of just hacking it into mp-wp atm.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-02 10:17:14 mircea_popescu: i'd go as far as to say that any feed without a guid is ~therefore~ broken, and any software putting out such a thing has to be fixed.
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-02#1949288 << annd it is through this logline that I realize my RSS feed on my blog is broken in this sense. For some reason, it has been putting the permalink in the guid field instead of the post id. (curiously, this started once I migrated blog to new box). Ugh
feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2019/11/02/come-out-of-the-shadows/ << Ossa Sepia -- Come Out of the Shadows
BingoBoingo: Pretty sure the notes are in my briefcase