mircea_popescu: well if you run your own node(s) with good peerage it'd come from there
mircea_popescu: having a few dedicated trusted watchers certainly cheaper than "everyone" doing their own watching, and certainly better than current situation (where most everyone doesn't do any)
mircea_popescu: well it may be useful if you're into the nitty gritty of it, merchants could always query your service if in doubt
mircea_popescu: i think it only appears demographic because there's allignment between the actual causes and demographics.
decimation: you think the median voter knows about committee appointments?
decimation: I suppose there's a reason that the Washington Monument is a giant phallus, welcoming the incoming classes of young interns
mircea_popescu: ask anyone, would they rather fuck a bunch of women, or would they rather not fuck at all but be regarded by their peers as a modern casanova ?
mircea_popescu: actually that's the most appealing.
mircea_popescu: and they put in padded cells the sorts of idiots that wish to spend their time running for an office instead.
mircea_popescu: i'd be kinda curious to see how a country worked where the cure for insanity was 2 years in parliament.
decimation: like for instance, your brain has the crazy
mircea_popescu: by the latter criterion i'd guess medicine is mostly successful
decimation: so the latter
decimation: the history of medicene is mostly about trying to heal people but failing miserably
mircea_popescu: there.
mircea_popescu: has made no progress in almost 20 years, let alone ten, a claim no other medical specialty can make, and the truth which cannot be spoken out loud. Hence an exam.
mircea_popescu: thing else? A few new medicines have come out, though none of them appeared on the test either. There's money to be made on the west coast using giant magnets, (fortunately) also not on the test. So? Was the ABPN worried I'd forget how to use MAOIs? I'm never going to use them, I have enough problems monitoring Xanax. The astonishing truth is that despite millions of dollars and hundreds of academic careers psychiatry
mircea_popescu: The logic of a 10 year MOC exam is to keep us up to date, so it's fair to ask: what in psychiatry has changed in ten years, what are the major advances? Depakote was discovered to be the default maintenance mood stabilizer despite no evidence supporting this, but that fell into disuse at a time oddly coinciding with its patent expiration, which is suspicious but I'm no epidemiologist. Anyway, it wasn't on the test. Any
decimation: ah the last pscychiatrist guy?
decimation: are you working on maintaining your medical license with the state?
decimation: what portion of humanity would commit suicide if they were transported to 100 AD sans iphones?
decimation: I think most women (quite practically) would rather die than live in mad max land
decimation: and the parts that aren't are bezzle-priced
mircea_popescu: it's in the interest of greater titage.
decimation: it takes an hour to get downtown, stopping at every useless ghetto on the way
decimation: I found the metro to be generally useless
decimation: yeah most cable companies "rent" the low wire on power poles
asciilifeform: and so people resist them.
asciilifeform: more complicated. the tree trimmers routinely cut fiber (likewise strung overhead)
decimation: there was another amusing example in the DC area a few years ago, after the "derecho" thunderstorm. power was out everywher - why? because none of the treehuggers would let the power-line clearances be maintained
asciilifeform: (usg likes to lay unmarked fiber for seekrit skvirrel use. what happens? it gets cut. as the recent case of a new branch of wash. dc metro)
decimation: it's quite enlightening to study the ownership path of the right-of-way deeds. One realizes that us infrastructure is pretty much like openssl: everyone knows it's a horrible pit, everyone uses it, no will to 'fix' it
decimation: they only reason the right-of-ways survived coherently is because utilities like power were still in use long after the railroads went bankrupt
decimation: my own understanding of many of the 'trails' the DC area is that they were mostly railroad right-of-ways
decimation: there's not much "downhill" to be had
decimation: this is a big problem in the maryland/dc area because it's a swamp
asciilifeform: and one of these (electric pump) is built.
asciilifeform: speaking of sewage, i recently had occasion to learn the details behind herr orlov's assertion that usa minus mains current will drown in own shit
asciilifeform: i dare say the folks who want to stick around to enjoy a hypothetical north american zimbabwe (usa minus mains current, sewer, water) are justifiably disinterested in btc
asciilifeform: if you organize anything in usa that even vaguely resembles an army from a distance, you've made the enemy
decimation: well, you certainly cannot make usg your enemy either
asciilifeform: (minus the acquittal, normally)
gribble: Hutaree - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutaree>; Judge acquits 7 Hutaree militia members accused of terrorist ...: <http://www.freep.com/article/20120327/NEWS06/120327048/Judge-dismisses-critical-charges-in-Hutaree-case>; hutaree - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/user/hutaree>
decimation: yeah the amusing thing about most of those types is that they seem to want to "own" their own own bunker or whatever, rather than the more obvious strategy of "recruit army, train"
asciilifeform: (why a fellow who could afford to mount some semblance of adequate preparation for lead standard would stay in usa, is a question for them - not me)
decimation: yeah it's interesting that the "lead standard" crowd seems to have not adopted bitcoin
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you're concerned about a collapse, the marginal utility of putting 10% of your << there is another possible observation here. quite a few of the folks who might otherwise take an interest in bitcoin are 'collapse pessimists' - i.e. believe in the 'lead standard.'
decimation: your kid comes out a 'tard - it's the doctor's faul
decimation: yeah ob/gyn is a known target for legal scammers in the us
mircea_popescu: guess the country.
mircea_popescu: "Roughly half the counties in our nation lack a single OB/GYN physician to care for women."
mircea_popescu: the guy does have one excellent point tho : if you're concerned about a collapse, the marginal utility of putting 10% of your assets into a hedge probably far exceeds the marginal utility of putting the other 90%
mircea_popescu: maybe he doesn't want to advertise it, or maybe he ran off with who knows what braindamage on the topic
decimation: I'm surprised he hasn't got on the bitcoin bandwagon, he seems to be a likely suspect
decimation: the author does agree with your earlier point about having 4% of your remaining assets: "Well, that's far from clear. The one thing one shouldn't do is assume the present system will persist until you're ready to retire, and invest your retirement savings entirely on the assumption nothing will change."
mircea_popescu: omfg the blue
decimation: I imagine the arguments in court over long-lived estate's fee tails would be amusing
assbot: Reading List: The Death of Money (Fourmilog: None Dare Call It Reason)
mircea_popescu: it was phased out mostly at the owner's request.
mircea_popescu: anyway, fee tail used to exist, as the practical consequence of alodial title
decimation: in Hawaii, there are six layers of bureaucracy from the state down to the county level, each of which is empowered to tell you what you can do with "your" land
decimation: "In English law, a fee simple (or fee simple absolute) is an estate in land, a form of freehold ownership. It is the way that real estate is owned in common law countries, and is the highest ownership interest possible that can be had in real property. Allodial title is reserved to governments under a civil law structure"
assbot: Fee simple - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
decimation: mircea: re: "pretend-alodial" from your blog: the wikipedia is quite helpful on explaining the current situation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple
decimation: there's no other conclusion than: white people in the west "want" to be invaded, crushed, and forgotten
mircea_popescu: "But thats not his style. He rolls up his sleeves. He puts his theories into action. He drives himself as hard as anyone I know." gates now a "hard work" apologist ?
mircea_popescu: the benefit of diversity is quite plainly that anytihng that can be butchered should be butchered.
decimation: right but they can sit and chat amicably for a few hours
mircea_popescu: and left the flap up
mircea_popescu: they have all these points of conflict all over the environment, such as who fucked the blonde escort last
mircea_popescu: yeah dude, some guy in a five star hotel is so very likely to butcher some other guy in a five star hotel.
decimation: "Another reason Sachs offers for the benefits of diversity is the rather common one that the more contact we have with other ethnic groups, the more we develop trust, forgetting his own previous observation that trust declines in diverse societies, but calling attention instead to some research about the amicable ways in which individuals from different ethnic groups, jet set businessmen and academics, interact with different ethnic
mircea_popescu: and nobody could have predicted that nobody wants crap in the middle of nowhere.
mircea_popescu: dude wants more taxes. that's the way!
mircea_popescu: All of the interventions involved health, agriculture, infrastructure, education, and business seed money make sense if carried out carefully, over time. But I am surprised by how little Sachs dug into country budgets, and that he didnt work to convince governments to commit to additional taxation
mircea_popescu: Warren Buffett likes to say, The rearview mirror is always clearer than the windshield. Through that rearview mirror, we can see that the project never had an economic model that could sustain successes once the MVP dollars ran out.
mircea_popescu: Of course, Sachs knows that its critical to understand market dynamics; hes one of the worlds smartest economists. But in the villages Munk profiled, Sachs seems to be wearing blinders.
asciilifeform: incidentally, this is the only kind of 'charity' that exists in u.s. - and that their 'export product' is similar, should surprise no one.
mircea_popescu: all this disavowing pretense of "helping them" and "world better place" bs.
mircea_popescu: i wonder how long until these schmucks can earnestly admit "we like going to poor villages in africa because it is enjoyable to peruse in detail the troglodytism of lesser people"
mircea_popescu: But the MVP didnt simultaneously invest in developing markets for these crops. According to Munk, Pineapple couldnt be exported after all, because the cost of transport was far too high. There was no market for ginger, apparently. And, despite some early interest from buyers in Japan, no one wanted banana flour. The farmers grew the crops, but the buyers didnt come.
mircea_popescu: So what went wrong? For one thing, the villages that Sachs picked experienced all kinds of problems from drought to political unrest. For another, the MVP took an idealistic Field of Dreams approach. MVP leaders encouraged farmers to switch to a series of new crops that were in demand in richer countries, and experts on the ground did a good job of helping farmers to produce good crop yields by using fertilis
decimation: well, like any engineering project it depends on the design
decimation: they can't have a portable nuclear reactor because it would make the evrionmentalists batty
assbot: Project Iceworm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
decimation: they even put one in a snow fort in Greenland in the '50s http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Iceworm
decimation: So the US Dod in the past had a program to put a 2.5 mw generator on a truck and put it in a combat zone
assbot: Army Nuclear Power Program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
asciilifeform: wine... cheese... bread... linen... steel engine << you can get them. just pay and pay.
mircea_popescu: the one exception is uruguay, where they're not. so if you manage to knock up a girl in buenos aires, you have to ship her across the river.
mircea_popescu: the practicalities of a healthy sex life in argentina : as everywhere in south america, abortions are illegal here.
mircea_popescu: none of these'd be hard to do, legally.
mircea_popescu: the us "market" is underserved for a reason. you can't get good wine, either, nor good cheese
mircea_popescu: yah, and they'll use your exchange
mircea_popescu: but it won't be free, because there's better way to extract value from the us consumer than taking 2 cents out of his 10 bux
decimation: surely the bezzleers on wall street want a place to play
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, do the math. if 100 mn us citizens spend 10 bux to buy from you over a year, out of the 0.2% you charge them you've made... 2mn
decimation: well, there's the issue of the usg taking 96% of your assets at a point of their choosing
decimation: mircea I'm just amazed that there is clearly an opportunity to make a profitable exchange on US soil, yet it appears no one is trying
decimation: there's much truth to that
decimation: mircea what portion of the youth in argentina speak english well enough to read trilema?
decimation: bloctoc: you might be right, but I suspect the "floor price" of buying into the entire us regulatory system is somewhere in the 10's of millions of dollars, perhaps low hundreds
decimation: if so, how many regulators in how many states have they met with? how many lawyers retained?
decimation: are they planning on actually making a real exchange on us soil?
extra: any questions you want me to ask them ?
extra: i'm meeting the coinbase co-founders at a Q&A tomorrow
mircea_popescu: or invest your intelligence with the bezzle, 4% left in thirty years ?
mircea_popescu: so, the argument goes, invest your btc with rsm, 4% left in three years
mircea_popescu: no. i am pointing out that someone whose brain works quite well but who wastes his time THERE rather than hire makes piddly squat.
decimation: so to be clear, you are pointing out that someone who actually has original thoughts has a few bitcents, while sachs is raking in the speaking fees?
RagnarDanneskjol: Sachs is the Bono of economics - LOL
decimation: interestingly it pops up in a link on the last pscyhiactrist's blog
mircea_popescu: actually, i will readily PROVE to you he's exactly in the same category.
decimation: true. getting tenure in the us university is a nightmare, from what I've heard
mircea_popescu: notrly. they don't run any risk if they can help it. and besides, he was young once, he ran the risk of no tenure.
decimation: at least they ran some risk, he just collects his tenure pay
decimation: actually I think that's kind of an insult to the scammers
decimation: are you propsing that Professor Sachs belongs in the same category as bitcoin scammers?
mircea_popescu: in those same other states it's illegal to present yourself as a "leading international adviser" while you're a sort of rsm.
decimation: the primary purpose of such laws is to protect corrupt politicians from being exposed, of course
decimation: "Of these speakers, Jeffrey Sachs, leading international economic adviser and director of the Earth Institute, is the most articulate in his explicit admission that we must follow the ideology of diversity regardless of what the scientific evidence says."
mircea_popescu: "Here's a transcript of an illegal recording not done by the NSA that therefore everyone is ok with, consistent with our new standard of conduct: it is not illegal to make an illegal recording as long as it is given to the media and they profit from it and we can use it to rationalize our lives. Got it." lulzy
asciilifeform made pet female play the 'game' shortly after first met. she beat the machine in about two minutes, by counting letters in words from memory, objects in surroundings, etc.
mircea_popescu: (the better ones get hacked by better guys thus make offspring that suvives better)
asciilifeform: for some reason, it's mostly female names/portraits linking to it these days. maybe mircea_popescu can shed light on why.
decimation: I find the main human weakness w.r.t. generating randomness is a great aversion to repeated outcomes
decimation: re: liveried servitude << why? http://www.eurocanadian.ca/2014/06/the-great-fear-ethnocentrism-why-do.html
asciilifeform: the notion that you can somehow be rich without being powerful << actually the u.s. system is quite like the classical soviet world of 'special access' groceries, gov.-issued dachas, official limousines
mircea_popescu: the notion that you can somehow be rich without being powerful is perhaps the lulziest part of the bezzle system.
mircea_popescu: ok, quite splendid. the us is chock full of supposedly rich people who are about as powerless as a random south american whore
mircea_popescu: d NOT being able to do anything with it except spend it on the system-wide approved gimmicks: Trading Up, college educations, the National Bank of S&P 500.
mircea_popescu: Why would the The Economist's rich and powerful demo want to be ruled? Because they aren't powerful, only rich, all that time getting rich did not translate to any power, only the trappings of power. So they've postulated a fantasy power structure/NBA owners that explains why they can't enjoy their lives as they think they should-- to absolve themselves of the guilt they feel for having money/intellect/opportunities an
assbot: Redditor lost ~$20,000 worth of bitcoin due to insecure wallet generator. /u/BtcRobinHood steps in and return the money to its rightful owner. : bestof
RagnarDanneskjol: tell him to try airwallet [disclosure, its hosted by me]. doesnt seem wise using appstore wallets as they might disappear tomorrow
benkay: k nm saved by the market
dub: is there bitcoin for iphone yet?
mircea_popescu: "If I had to put my chips and my children against an 8 year rotation of civil service nincompoops vs. some nerd with an open marriage who spent $15M on a "bachelor pad" so he could score chicks of questionable emotional stability, I'm going with the group my private sector lawyers have an outside chance of pwoning."
mircea_popescu: at least from the supposedly secret usg employment rolls i've seen to date.
mircea_popescu: im pretty certain fewer women work for the nsa and generally for the us secret service community than for silicon valley firms
mircea_popescu: tlb brings a good point. how come in the war between spooks and techs, it's the TECHS that get accused of being mysogynistic ?
benkay: disregard them greencabbige it's an echo chamber
Mats_cd03: and consider the cacophony of voices insisting you're fucking wrong.
greencabbige: ok if oyu're all gonna tag team on me with your littel club I'll just leave then should and carry on. We don't need any new money. we're currently in the strongest position we've ever been.
mircea_popescu: i think seinfeld has the answer to that.
greencabbige: ffs getting tired of this shit now. for a start if we sell it on ebay then people can buy it with a credit card to gety into a bitcoin. one of the only the ways to get in to bicoin safely with a credit card. Why all the attacks?
mircea_popescu: that it can't be, as the charge was levied back in 2012.
greencabbige: i hardley now the guy, I met him once briefly
mircea_popescu: greencabbige so is it true that nefario used you to launder all the fraudulent claims he made for various holdings on his own exchange after he closed it down ?
greencabbige: ok if you really wanna know with all our old gear we've sold it on ebay for more than we calcualted we'd a flogged out of it in the endz
kakobrekla: only 65% loss there.
benkay: <asciilifeform> 'the morel [sic] equivalent of opening other peoples physical wallets and taking the cash found within.' << more like digging out a bag of gold some anonymous idiot buried under park bench // or...morels
mircea_popescu: this would be the epitome of do it yourself finance / citizen dentistry.
greencabbige: during a bubble all the current in stock gear that won't roi will easily roi
greencabbige: no we can get 200BTC by next year and bitcoin could go to $5k. We have a cool $1million to play with then.
Mats_cd03: the sad state of being involved in an enterprise you can't control and don't understand
Mats_cd03: if you want to be in the black a year from now, sadly your best play is just to take off with the funds
asciilifeform: 'the morel [sic] equivalent of opening other peoples physical wallets and taking the cash found within.' << more like digging out a bag of gold some anonymous idiot buried under park bench
greencabbige: $80k in the wallet
greencabbige: I think our intial seed funding from the orgianlly IPO was about $2.5k we now about 480k in bitcoins alone, a server, 5TH/s and a 30% depsoit on 1(GH/s) of scrypt.
bitstein: Both of them.
greencabbige: we've been on three exchanges now everything is fully recorded in our old thread. yes i have loads of old spreadsheets. Although the accounts guy didn't comne on board until last summer We orginally raised 200BTC in early 2012 then 120BTc last summer.
greencabbige: possibly somewhere although i did it all my self then so very messy. Like I said our share price was 0.015 what saved us is I offered 0.002 per share for new funds to buy three KNC Jupiters. the shareholders we mostly against it, but i new those bfl's wernt worth shit. So it kind saved our bacon, but drastically lowered share price as I bought in 200% more shares and there's no knew buyers on 796.
mthreat: kakobrekla: yeah, +m just means "m is required" in the search language
greencabbige: if you divide the current RSM wallet by the amount of shares rsm doesn't own then that's a value of over 0.0010btc alone. While current lowest offer is 0.0006btc. Once we get a tracking code for 1(GH/s) of scrypt supposedly and hopefully within the next three to five weeks we're moving and buying all shares back below 0.0010. Where's the days of BTCT sepecualtion i share price went over 0.015 last summer our wallet w
kakobrekla: thats your reward for making the thing
mircea_popescu: greencabbige so your 12 months dividends are going to be 5.5 btc in the future ?
mthreat: the "+" would be %2B url-encoded
kakobrekla: the search sez " m"
gribble: These fucktards have to be immortalised, they're worse than Dr ...: <http://trilema.com/2014/these-fucktards-have-to-be-immortalised-theyre-worse-than-dr-foreskin-even/>; Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/category/bitcoin/>; The psychology of the bagholder pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2014/the-psychology-of-the- (1 more message)
asciilifeform: father's life. the guards who had replaced melnikov, often, instead of switching the tape reel to record, confused the buttons. then, from father's walls, you could hear muffled singing, instrumental pieces, stage concerts - the microphones had turned into speakers. sometimes, i allowed myself a laugh - would feign surprise at the ghostly music and offer to locate its source. in a moment, silence would always fa
asciilifeform: 'agents, they are here' << 'we had no doubts that the dacha [place of n. s. khruschev's forced retirement] was festooned with microphones, but as to where the receiving devices and tape reels were emplaced - no one had any idea. somehow this did not interest us... ... i must say that the apparatus worked in a rather mediocre way, and the eavesdropping was conducted so shabbily, especially in the latter years of
RSM: they've got it merged-mining ten chains so far lolz
RSM: currently building a 05 fee LTC P2Pool node with a dedicated server going in the DCtomorow gonna make it public based in Kansas City
RSM: I'm starting a motion to raise the salry fund as the two current Linux system admins are paid peanuts
RSM: yeah currently about ~5.5BTc in the div fund
mircea_popescu: "We have dividends already covered for at least the next twelbve months." << what sense does this make ?
mike_c: you can manipulate the matrix?? that is impressive.
kakobrekla: mthreat dunno if theres a better solution, dont worry about it
RSM: I want to move RSM trading potentially on to Counterparty, but afaik there's no way to ever halt trading if we want to move. Offtopic my speculation is that Etherum is taking so long as their trying to wait for side-chains possibly?
mthreat: <kakobrekla> see, there is comma a few times << I see what you mean. For the "to", I just extracted using regex: "^([a-zA-Z0-9\-\_]+): "
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ << somebody with a reddit account please drop this in the whatever sluts subreddit
asciilifeform: 'six landscapes' film << neat. wonder if the author has already fellated a nailgun.
kakobrekla: see, there is comma a few times
RSM: we own the bragging rights to being the oldest publicly traded bitcoin security afaik or at least mining stock. IPO started january 2012
bitcoinpete: thestringpuller: like this bitcon? http://canadianbullionservices.com/silver-coins-2/1-oz-2014-bitcon-silver-round
dub: dude fuck off back to the forum
RSM: our main paln is to hopefully at least ROI on the 19GH/s) of scrypt and the current 5(TH/s). that's give us at least 150BTC then wait for then next bubble. We have dividends already covered for at least the next twelbve months.
RSM: no, but they scrapped the internal PSU and are usuing offshelf already ceritifed PSU's now. So we're hopping they can do waht KNC did with Jupiters from recieving chips to shipping within a week
mike_c: i don't think you will, the market does.
RSM: 796 has nowhere near the any speculators like BCT did
RSM: we have ~129BTC in the wallet but have to pay £15k soon for 1(GH/s) of Scrypt ASIC's off AlphaT
Mats_cd03: This is the subtle shift: what starts out as "misogyny is bad" becomes "anonymity facilitates misogyny."
mircea_popescu: look at that, guy groks things enough to know pgp is the correct reference ?
mircea_popescu: can senator trying to curb anonymity there's going to be a Scandinavian cyberpirate who will come up with a workaround, and only one of them knows how to code. Besides, there's no power in abolishing anonymity, the power is in giving everyone the pretense of anonymity while secretly retaining the PGP keys to the kingdom.
mircea_popescu: You may at this point roll your eyes epileptically and retort, "well, who cares 'what the system wants', the fact is anonymity does embolden the lunatics, shouldn't we try to restrict it?" Great question, too bad it's irrelevant. You've taken the bait and put all your energy into accepting the form of the argument. The issue isn't whether we should abolish online anonymity, since this will never happen. For every Ameri
mircea_popescu: "Anonymity makes the internet mean and gives trolls= men too much power."
assbot: C3TV -Seeing The Secret State: Six Landscapes
punkman: fun presentation on hidden things http://media.ccc.de/browse/congress/2013/30C3_-_5604_-_en_-_saal_1_-_201312282300_-_seeing_the_secret_state_six_landscapes_-_trevor_paglen.html
Mats_cd03: asciilifeform: 3 hours spent trying to convince you he understands the usb stack better than you do. hilarious
mircea_popescu: only people can hide, starting with the salami and ending where you please.
mircea_popescu: the general rule is that no bureaucracy can hide anything.
punkman: justusranvier: hidden things aren't what they used to be
justusranvier: As long as you've got a buyer hidden somewhere with (effectively) infinately-deep pockets, then they can just put out RFQs and let it appear as if the "free market" has spontaneously formed an industry.
justusranvier: So Booz Allen Hamilton has one of their subsidaries start buying up analytics from advertising firms. Those firms become Facebook's customers.
mircea_popescu: justusranvier not necessarily. pirate didn't have "some other source"
justusranvier: So if it's not possible for them to legitmately generate profits, and they continue to as business, then at some point the most plausible explaination is their profit somes from some other source
mircea_popescu: now this is true... i guess facebook just used the capital judiciously.
justusranvier: Facebook et al have been like that from the beginning
justusranvier: mircea_popescu: As you said, the business model on it's face is retarded. There's no way it could legitimately generate a profit.
punkman: I could indeed make money while I was sleeping then
mircea_popescu: punkman right ? remember the days back when 1% CTR was LOW ?
mircea_popescu: justusranvier but that's your theory. i am a businessman, i read what's written.
justusranvier: As long as he keeps getting more people to voluntarily give him their data, he keeps getting paid
punkman: it would be a perfectly fine business model if they'd make some money from their crappy ads