asciilifeform: wonder if they issue tricorns to 'jeffersons' and 'washingtons' here.
asciilifeform: generally, you'll find the same kind of folks calling themselves 'polymath' as 'hero.'
asciilifeform: there's probably a suitably 'soviet' term used internally.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> 'we've a bunch of hooligans here. let's develop access agent.' 'what theme hooligans?' 'business theme.' 'is pg around? get him on the line' << lawl. hooliganism eh ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Clickbait is about the only 'Murican art left
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: while this cannot be seen in the grainy photos, the woman is, to back-translate the russian term, 'autumnal'
asciilifeform: der wagen was decorated with a number of 'end the fed' stickers. apparently this is considered adequate crank bait.
mircea_popescu: "been a hundred years with Banksters at rule making money from sratch charge the interest to fools" << le esl ?
mircea_popescu: dudes stop upping ninjaderp it makes the logs impossible.
asciilifeform: these folks.
BingoBoingo: I've not seen the word consistently applied to anyone else
asciilifeform: the innocent word is not to blame here.
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: And this is the problem with your trumpet. It is the food that the real instruments eat.
mircea_popescu: "The myth started after The Polymath Poet aka Christine Ann Sands aka WikiPoet acquired a park permit for the Washington, DC Million Mask March."
gribble: Der Führer's Face - Full length - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MReV9dkAVhY>; Spike Jones Der Fuehrer's Face - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZlFBSRrSR0>; Der Fuehrer's Face - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Fuehrer's_Face>
asciilifeform: ;;google we heil right in the fuehrer's face
BingoBoingo: I can somewhat play the Wind equivalent of a cello (euphonium)
asciilifeform: 'can you play the cello?' 'don't know, never tried'
asciilifeform: 'we've a bunch of hooligans here. let's develop access agent.' 'what theme hooligans?' 'business theme.' 'is pg around? get him on the line'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: on the train home, i mentally sketched what the committee deliberations must have looked like.
mircea_popescu: <benkay> the doge bet is now in play << sad story.
asciilifeform: can't use pgp and 'stand under the flag' pg stands under.
mircea_popescu: <punkman> mthreat, you should crawl the links in the logs and let us search them from the same interface << holy shit this is inception.
mircea_popescu: <benkay> so what is fanon then? << canon is the story as written by the author. fanon is the story as "it could be", written by the fans.
BingoBoingo: If Micheal Jordan has another one of his 1990's Klye style gambling binges he might fall into Kim's price range as well
asciilifeform: still need the fissile primary, in both variants.
BingoBoingo: There are probably parts of the pentagon today more afraid of the possibility of the liquid hydrogen bomb in a tractor trailer than a droppable bomd
asciilifeform: actually, the first usable (sans liquid hydrogen) fusion bomb was built on the other side of the ocean
asciilifeform: inevitable observation / puzzle: why are all of the public nuts so tediously predictable.
asciilifeform: olice dragged me to a psych clinic, where they strangled me, [ten minutes of unintelligible crud]' police: turned her loose, drove away
asciilifeform: much more interesting woman: walked into coffee shop, proclaims at the top of her lungs: 'i've been standing in front of this place all day, and you won't give me a free drink!' clerk: '...' woman: 'know what? i own this place! you're all fired!' clerk: [unintelligible] woman: 'sure, i'll wait for the police. [pulls out phone, films]' police come. woman led outside, 'i will have the lot of you fired! last time p
assbot: John Brown (abolitionist) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
BingoBoingo: Why no "Slave Man" in UnSavory Garnish agitprop? American History >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown_%28abolitionist%29#Gathering_forces
BingoBoingo: "Pioneered the field of naturopathic dermatology. Authored a book and web site where millions of people with the worlds #1 skin disorder were freely helped and where Yale Dermatology referred their physicians and patients." << Low effort expertise, has help from on high if Yale refers to what she peddles.
asciilifeform: http://millionmaskmarch.org/joseph_hallford << the kind of lolmaster attracted by the wikiwagen
gribble: Serious Android crypto key theft vulnerability affects ... - Ars Technica: <http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/06/serious-android-crypto-key-theft-vulnerability-affects-86-of-devices/>; KeyStore Vulnerability Affects 86% of Android Devices - Slashdot: <http://beta.slashdot.org/story/203943>; KeyStore Vulnerability Affects 86% of Android Devices - Slashdot: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: Well, since the NSA isn't likely far ahead cryptographically anymore other than sabotaging the systems of others. I have to wonder what sorts of goodies they might have as far as signit goes.
asciilifeform: what was inside the wagen? some aging hippies.
asciilifeform: ('rfid', not the musical instrument)
gribble: Léon Theremin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A9on_Theremin>; Thing (listening device) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thing_(listening_device)>; Theremin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theremin>
asciilifeform: there are specific allegations about the keeper of the wagen, which afaik she never publicly answered.
asciilifeform: first thing i found when looking for discussion of the very memorable wagen is 'honeypot'
BingoBoingo: Living in the wikileakwagen has to be a good way to become sterile with all of the EM aimed at it to provoke the electronics to sing their secrets.
BingoBoingo: It's like the Anarchists and Ghaddafi switched colors. WTF is this Wikileaken Green and Isis Black.
asciilifeform: i walk up to the woman, and, 'so tell about yourself & wtf'
asciilifeform: ^ right in the middle of wash., d.c. parked next to a gigantic public expo (international 'culture' miscellania)
asciilifeform: in other 'news',
BingoBoingo: Yes they do.
asciilifeform: their spam-muppet reads far too much like a character from 'silicon valley'
BingoBoingo: punkman: Sure, but The underdog "life" is substantially better captitalized than the current frontrunner "death" and has been most of today.
punkman: BingoBoingo, but it's still early in the game
assbot: War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!
BingoBoingo: Game of the week still doesn't have the activity to self correct odds like BitBet does yet https://atc.waroflife.com/gow/10/
BingoBoingo: One of them did
thestringpuller: the doge founder left no?
benkay: the doge bet is now in play
dub: muricans. why would I need a passport, never even called another country?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
kakobrekla: actually mthreat takes the credit.
kakobrekla: here, if you know the url, you can find it.
BingoBoingo: I'm wondering what happened to the one he posted on the loper site, should have bookmarked it.
mthreat: benkay: for now, just try teh search from the web interface
mthreat: benkay: hmm it looks like assbot is double-url-encoding searches, the %2B should be a '+' or '%20'
BingoBoingo: ^ not the one I was looking for
BingoBoingo: In more productive news the cast iron is doing well. Eggs didn't stick this morning.
ninjashogun: then learn how to do a reference check.
ninjashogun: the new president, Sam Altman, knows me vaguely as well.
ninjashogun: benkay - that is the approach that I'm following. I'm an American, and the first (earlier) company is registered in the US.
benkay: it laid out the current american approach to fundraising pretty cleanly.
ninjashogun: I realize that startups are quite different from the bitcoin-related assets, etc.
ninjashogun: I will make my offer and then if nobody is interested that's enough. It's the same offer that's happening elsewher.
benkay: information from the biographical information."
ninjashogun: btw I've been idling both here and elsewhere, and all I see in this conversation is trolling. Just look up at your scrollback before my name was mentioned. There is nothing that goes on in here that isn't a waste of everyone's time.
punkman: mthreat, you should crawl the links in the logs and let us search them from the same interface
ninjashogun: I swear, people on IRC network in the weirdest effin ways.
benkay: i call their references.
ninjashogun: No, benkay, if you match what you told me about me previously IRL then it's trivially substantiable.
ninjashogun: benkay stop trolling me for a minute if you'd like to hear the rest of my offer
ninjashogun: Anyway as a founder when I'm in touch with people who come to me with ideas, the last thing I do is troll them about it.
ninjashogun: I will say that asciilifeform's conclusion was totally wrong. WPA or whatever is not needed for secure communication over a device. You could flash a LED and have a webcam read it, and vice versa (it can read flashing of a monitor). There is absolutely no outside channel that exposes.
BingoBoingo: ninjashogun: People in here buy services all of the fucking time. They simply buy services from people who know what they are servicing. Not fucking cold callers asking for payment up front.
ninjashogun: anyway if you are just going to want to troll I have other options for my time.
ninjashogun: BingoBoingo, it was just a simple offer. Recently, Nxt was very interested, but they failed (bombed, totally bombed) my reference check on them.
ninjashogun: BingoBoingo, how was I supposed to know the people in here don't buy services?
gribble: You rated user ninjashogun on Sun Jun 29 19:31:19 2014, with a rating of -3, and supplied these additional notes: UnSavory Garnish, Vegetable.
BingoBoingo: ninjashogun: You assumed to sell the service of improving a product you new nothing about, because you are "The Special" or some shit.
ninjashogun: btw I've repeated this recently. I was in touch wtih Nxt selling services to them. But they failed their reference check completely, utterly.
ninjashogun: BingoBoingo, so I was in here seeking financing for the second company, which was a services company. As part of that I also sought to sell services, which didn't materialize
ninjashogun: The two companies are: 1) a proprietary hardware company (totally unrelated to bitcoin in any way)
ninjashogun: I can tell you a bit about the companies, of course, but I'm not selling an idea, so much as a pipeline
ninjashogun: YCombinator is the incubator that backed: Reddit, Dropbox, AirBNB
ninjashogun: to tell you a bit about me, I'm 31, and previously was an early-employee at a YCombinator-backed startup that made an exit (no windfallf or me, but I got to see the whole process)
BingoBoingo: You've never once hinted at these things doing anything.
ninjashogun: There is also a second company, which is much younger, not yet incorporated but it is pure services, and we already have 1 client.
ninjashogun: The offer is that I am now doing 2 startups concurrently, the first is farther-along at 1-year+, with traditional VC-funding in the pipeline. We've been discussing a $10M valuation - but obviously that is a LONG ways off, that is more like a 24-month pipeline. The VC that we've discussed this with has recently (just this past August) made a $400M exit off of a $10M investment made 3 years prior. We have active VC talks a
punkman: if you got an offer, take the fucking offer
ninjashogun: I thought I'd very briefly repeat the financing offer on offer elsewhere in case someone here is interested as well. Note that historically I've found this channel (-assets) very troll-y, but I do realize a lot of financing idles here (more than the other channel).
punkman: ninjashogun: but I am not going to take the offer as I need to do both companies concurrently. obviously $200K would solve all of my money needs, but then I would be beholden to just the second startup, instead of being able to pursue both
benkay: so what is fanon then?
mircea_popescu: <benkay> no no it's a great movie with a great ending in libertard canon << nothing libertard can be canon. we make the rules, they make the whines.
nubbins`: printed ~150 of these earlier
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i wouldn't mind if they printed it and swallowed it.
nubbins`: i don't sleep better at night for the knowledge i've gained
chetty: but there is!
nubbins`: well then.
mircea_popescu: tbh i buy nubbins` explanation most readily. in libertard fanon "nobody cares what the truth is, merely convenience matters"
ThickAsThieves: he's saying believing there's a matrix is bullshit
mircea_popescu: is that what it's based on, the fiction/reality cleavage ?
nubbins`: so they get to see they're standing in a field of shit stretching as far as the eye can see
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it existed in the film no ?
nubbins`: nobody's happy they took i
nubbins`: the red pill is an unbearable downer.
benkay: this is the libertard in full cog-diss mode.
mircea_popescu: but if it is then the fact my article is trp can't be "crap". he should be eating it up.
mircea_popescu: benkay so the matrix is a good film with a bad ending in libertard fanon ?
benkay: or maybe that there is a hallucination
nubbins`: i always forget until i remember that one traitor standing up in his rags in a post-apocalyptic wasteland saying "why didn't i take the blue pill?"
mircea_popescu: if the film's good trp can't be an insult, nor a reason not to worship me.
benkay: and libertards fail to grasp the metaphor.
mircea_popescu: ok, doesn't the keanu reeves character take teh red pill ?
mircea_popescu: wasn't the red pill what you're supposed to take ?
nubbins`: the matrix is just okay
benkay: trp is bad because the matrix is good
chetty: what? when the hell did libertarians get on that band wagon
mircea_popescu: but if he says my thing's trp crap that implies trp is bad and by extension the matrix heretic
benkay: libertards are failing to grasp the metaphor
benkay: no no the matrix is good, thats what TRP is
benkay: because obviously if you think there's a difference between men and women you must be some kind of evil human
mircea_popescu: ok, so the guy is actually saying he ignored my article because it wasn't coherent with his mistaken notions ?
kakobrekla: <benkay> fuck me i'm young/clueless < but can you get out of the car?
mircea_popescu: ie, kids who lived their entire life in a us town and imagine their us "education" is actually a thing.
benkay: oh so not the libertarian retards
mircea_popescu: ill end up needing an equivalency table on the wall.
benkay: so who are the libertards?
mircea_popescu: so the libertards
benkay: but roughly speaking, the groups constantly pushing egalitarianism and rights and all the socialist claptrap
mircea_popescu: what's the pososphere again ?
benkay: in the context of the pososphere, it refers to the set of notions rejected by mainstream/academic america
mircea_popescu: well that doesn't halp. apparently some reddit libertard brigade doesn't like me because, i quote, "I ignored it because I thought the article was terrible, un-self-aware TRP crap, but it wasn't worth replying to."
benkay: you take the blue pill, you go to sleep, you wake up and everything continues as normal.
benkay: have you seen "The Matrix"?
benkay: "the red pill"
benkay: i did that to my father's stereo
mircea_popescu: because i liked taking them apart.
benkay: oh scuse me how little the little american fuckers have been allowed to learn
benkay: no man you radically understimate how little the little fuckers can do
benkay: lady v was nattering on about this recently. i lost my temper and told her that "fine, we'll lock them in and train them how to get out."
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bitcoinpete interesting point re the temperature variation.
penguirker: New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-poetry-of-the-derp/
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!
assbot: War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!
assbot: War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!
penguirker: New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/06/29/jeffrey-sachs-the-rsm-of-african-interventionism/
BingoBoingo: Well, I mean the War of Life announcement was a nice surprise. So much better than dice.
BingoBoingo: I'm wondering what surprises the S.MPOE catch up statement will have in store
gribble: Samwell - "What What (In the Butt)" - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU>; Butters - what what in the butt - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxCSSzb0I9o>; What What (In the Butt) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_What_(In_the_Butt)>
BingoBoingo: ;;google what what in the butt
bitcoinpete: butt butt in the wut
kakobrekla: they have wocked.
mircea_popescu: but wrothers
bitcoinpete: fluffypony: we did have two GPG key signing sessions yesterday, which was fun << so now you're all wot brothers?
kakobrekla: ok but when exception list is over half known internets, im turning the title parsing thingy off.
kakobrekla: i got most of the bots blocked in such way
mircea_popescu: no, add trilema to the blocklist
kakobrekla: anyway, does it help if i just add empyex to the block list
mircea_popescu: (actuyally a really cool system would be one that tokenized the title and the url, and only read the title in chan if there were at least 3 extra stems)
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla could it be possible to extempt trilema.com from having the title read out by assbot ?
FabianB: hm. with the url it's more verbose
assbot: The conference, third edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
empyex: FabianB: Next conference starts in 9 months and 19 days. Estimated cost today: 2.21439356 BTC (Details: http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/ )
FabianB: benkay: the term is 'peer', and sure can do
mircea_popescu: benkay: FabianB: wouldja care to pair our nodes or whatever the correct terminology is? >> "no homo" ?
benkay: FabianB: wouldja care to pair our nodes or whatever the correct terminology is?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
bitcoinpete: ;;later tell mircea_popescu are you familiar with e.m. cioran? my romanian friends found me a translation of "the temptation to exist" for my birthday :D
benkay: some of these sites have busted ssl configurations
benkay: all of these tampon subscription services are jamming piles of crap into a box and shipping it for 20 US, which i get, but at the same time
thestringpuller: those tampons tho are hip with the teenagers tho
benkay: a box of the fancy tampons goes for 6.50 in a grocery store
benkay: the market's totally saturated.
artifexd: ;;rate punkman 1 purchaser of the atc
benkay: http://online.wsj.com/articles/u-s-judge-says-argentinas-attempt-to-pay-holders-of-restructured-bonds-is-illegal-1403884702 // so argentina defaults, aaaaand - their borrowing rates explode? nothing happens?
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: good point re: oxidizing, i've had more than one tube go bad in the past
assbot: War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!
benkay: only foreign banks, and only maybe, and only if the USG catches you and your dodging of thtupid embargoes is woefully poorly managed
benkay: "In May, in what appeared to be a thinly veiled reference to BNP Paribas and other banks under probe, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder warned that "There is no such thing as too big to jail," signaling that for the first time in decades the government was ready to press guilty pleas on financial institutions."
benkay goes off to the wsj
benkay: <thestringpuller> group photo with the cryps! // actually, that's a good name for this gang right here
artifexd: ;;rate BingoBoingo 2 Fast on the send, is he.
gribble: You rated user BingoBoingo on Wed Mar 5 13:16:06 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: Did what he said he was going to do.
gribble: You rated user artifexd on Wed Mar 5 02:06:14 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: atc trade.
artifexd: Where do you want the ATC sent?
gribble: Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
BingoBoingo: Is there a good ATC node?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: is ed wuncler the first
xmj: mircea_popescu: ever lived there?
punkman: "Bulgarian central bank Governor Ivan Iskrov said on June 27 that the financial industry is under organized attack by anonymous e-mails, texts and rumors, threatening the country’s security. "
chetty: "If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years thered be a shortage of sand." Milton Friedman
mircea_popescu: heck, cars get shipped all across the world, they have romanian made cars in argentina. that won't work if you try to mail your car tho
mircea_popescu: movie studios also order this shit by the thousand, for dozens of films at a time.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: you can trust him all you want, giant printouts don't transport well. << yea they do. the movie studios usually will send a deconstructed cutout to the movie theatre for promotion and the theatre staff has to assemble it.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: i trust nubbins << you can trust him all you want, giant printouts don't transport well.
mircea_popescu: you normally can have galon drums of the stuff forairtight pump based applications (tho usually less toxic adhesives are preferred)
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: Reddit isn't all redditards... << problem is, the non-redditards aren't redditors.
mircea_popescu: chetty: BingoBoingo: Anyone interested in selling some ATC over the counter so I can try mike_c's War of Life?//good idea but I am clueless on atc, any ideas when btc will be working there? << ya srsly
mircea_popescu: "Newman has been nominated for 20 Academy Awards, winning twice. He has also won three Emmys, six Grammy Awards, and the Governor's Award from the Recording Academy."
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller notrly.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller if i were in la where else do you figure i'd be hanging out ?
mircea_popescu: i guess 40% is still a thing. out of 15 mn or w/e it was... yeah they can probably keep making these shitty flicks forever.
mircea_popescu: The racial makeup of the area was 39.0% White Non-Hispanic, 16.1% White-Hispanic, 10.4% Asian, 7.6% African American, 0.9% Native American, 21.0% from other races.
thestringpuller: group photo with the cryps!
punkman: LA's full of them, is it not
mircea_popescu: where do they get all these girlies that can't act remains a mystery tho. it can't be reddit.
mircea_popescu: so basically i've seen the tale of dank. twice.
mircea_popescu: they basically are the same shit : half training video for fucktarded western kids with tons of delusions and no skills, half narratives of the incredibly boring minutia of the life of western kids iwth no skills and tons of delusion.
mircea_popescu: i tried to watch cashback (2006) and chaos theory (2007)
FabianB: thestringpuller: wrong tab complete, should've been ThickAsThieves
mircea_popescu: lmao dank made into a book ? as fate has it i unloaded a bunch of movie dvds a chick made for me cca 2010. they'd been waiting ever since.