TomServo: Ah - I thought you were implying it wasn't and there was a chance it could go the other way.
mike_c: but for the no bettors, it would be irritating to be "right" but have lost.
mike_c: it'll be a kick in the pants if diff is back under 14bn on bastille day.
bitcoinpete: or another reason to gpg
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bitcoinpete: "Central bank balance sheets – including the Fed’s – have continued to expand and now exceed $20 trillion in aggregate, worldwide."
bitcoinpete: "Most importantly, if they persist too long, ultra-low rates could validate and entrench a highly undesirable type of equilibrium – one of high debt, low interest rates and anaemic growth."
fluffypony: I'm waiting for the Bitcoin Assets Foundation to start
bitcoinpete: a yes, the to crowd...
fluffypony: bitcoinpete: ah ok - Peter Todd was talking about the Bitcoin crowd in Toronto, made me think of you
justusranvier: Brawndocoin - the transaction mutilator. It's got what blockchains crave.
bitcoinpete: fluffypony: edmonton. gateway to the north ;)
bitcoinpete: most people have the day off because tmrw is a holiday for canada day
fluffypony: I lol'd all the way through
assbot: immibis comments on I'm tired of people thinking their altcoins are superior because they have shorter block times
fluffypony: bitcoinpete: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29cz6c/im_tired_of_people_thinking_their_altcoins_are/cijz7gc
pankkake: BingoBoingo: depends on what HFT means for them
assbot: Facebook experiments on users: They’ve got more in store!
BingoBoingo: http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2014/06/facebook_experiments_on_users_they_ve_got_more_in_store.html
BingoBoingo: "When you just put institutional investors in a pool that excludes high-frequency traders, they have a hard time trading with each other. There's not, it turns out, all that much natural liquidity." << This
benkay: this is not too much blabbing. the internals are v. interesting.
mike_c: in effect, he lost the bet that buying early would be advantageous
mike_c: it's like an option. a guy who buys the option early is buying time value.
punkman: yeah but let's say death stays at %70 for the rest of the game. Someoney buying 1k ATC at year 950 gets the same amount as the guy that bought on year 437. Shouldn't the earlier guy win more?
mike_c: heh. improved help is also on the list. i'm thinking video tutorials.
mike_c: in any case, point is that there is a shifting balance that rewards paying attention at multiple points through the game as opposed to rewards just decreasing over time.
mike_c: the best time to buy life is still to be determined.
mike_c: so, for example in game 10, the best time to buy death was frame 1
mike_c: the weighting is different from time (and better imo).
punkman: mike_c, is there a reason it doesn't have any sort of time weight when buying shares?
punkman: why's the minigame so slow btw?
mike_c: heh. that is more an excercise for the interested player.
mike_c: punkman: that is actually very doable. it's on the list somewhere.
punkman: mike_c, also in wishlist, simulate further rounds assuming no more bombs go off, probably not very useful, but it'd be nice to watch
mike_c: hm. i'll have to think through mechanics/implementation of that. seems like it would just make the bomb pot hidden until all the bets landed on the last frame.
punkman: like let me bid 50 on the last round before the next bomb, without having to wait for the Next Bomb timer go down to 1 or 2
punkman: the animation, I want to watch it slowly
punkman: mike_c, I'd love another button that lets me step frame by frame
mike_c: the site's not broke yet :)
BingoBoingo: Also mike_c How sure are you that the decimal odds on the order/chaos minigame are... correct.
mike_c: problem with making it odds based on pool is that it offers reducing incentive to contribute. i fell on the side of winner take all being more interesting. i am not married to it though.
punkman: mike_c: about bomb sniping, you could let people bid in advance (maybe with some limit logic), so they don't have to watch until the last minute
BingoBoingo: mike_c: Yeah. I'm noticing the bomb mechanics seem vulnerable to last minute sniping with a bid one unit higher. I dunno if time weight or maybe making bomb type a chance based on the size of life or death pools might make things more interesting
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thestringpuller: isn't 8 hours the norm?
xmj: there'll still be an overlap of 8 hours wake time
kakobrekla: <benkay> the girl's recently gotten rather militant about our sleep schedules - i'm interested in the topic at large. < mine had that idea at some point as well. now i go to sleep when she wakes up.
benkay: the girl's recently gotten rather militant about our sleep schedules - i'm interested in the topic at large.
dignork: asciilifeform: incidentally: whatever happened to the automatic multi-chain coin exchange? << I've seen some theoretical solution - https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Atomic_cross-chain_trading
asciilifeform as a boy thought 'black market' was an actual market, that one could actually go to. because, at the time and place... it was.
thestringpuller: justusranvier: you can get anything on the black market lol
mp_on_a_boat: my neighboiurs are counting all the girls vcoming up to my floor too.
Apocalyptic: gotta inflate the number somehow to show growth am I right
pankkake: I don't know, I heard it on the radio while waking up, so I'm fuzzy on who did it
assbot: Spain's Black Market Economy Is Worth 20% of Its GDP - Roberto A. Ferdman - The Atlantic
pankkake: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/07/spains-black-market-economy-is-worth-20-of-its-gdp/277840/ that was a year ago
justusranvier: pankkake: They'll soon have to, because within the next 5-19 years that will be the only economy
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benkay: <mp_on_a_boat> benkay:fucking disgusting, and yet. <<< i guess you never told a girl "if you throw up im going to make you fucking eat it up" and then carried through ? // lol no sir
mp_on_a_boat: "Every time a new startup launches, or a new software project announces, ask one question: Does this new thing improve the black market?
mp_on_a_boat: the bezzle economy is a crime against humanity.
mp_on_a_boat: the bexzz
mp_on_a_boat: because make no mistake about it, what the scum of this world calls "black market" is actually the free world.
mp_on_a_boat: Those of us who do not participate in the underground economy are often unaware of its breadth: it grew to include one half of the worlds workers by 2009, and is projected to include two-thirds of workers by 2020. << this is important. i make it a point to contribute whenever possible. my cards here for instance ? paid cash, no paper trail, 20% discount for me and so another hundred bucks added to the free world.
mp_on_a_boat: benkay:fucking disgusting, and yet. <<< i guess you never told a girl "if you throw up im going to make you fucking eat it up" and then carried through ?
asciilifeform: (all you need is a reflow oven. can buy chinese for around $1k (USD) or build the classical recipe from old toaster)
asciilifeform: chip only << it really isn't hard to mount these yourself. odd that no one has fessed up to doing so.
mp_on_a_boat: funny how redditarded the redditafrds are. guy has priviledged unpublic information, what does he do, are we asked to believe ?
mp_on_a_boat: curating children mostly consists of discretely snipping the stupid parts.
justusranvier: mp_on_a_boat: There are always outliers. Imagine a hypothetical experiment where you start 100 companies with the goal of capturing growning shares of shriking markets, and another 100 companies that try to gain market share in growing markets, and at the end see which group ends up better on average.
fluffypony: mp_on_a_boat: nah, she just wasn't one of those fun pornstars, she was one of those still-at-the-bottom-looking-for-a-rich-boyfriend types
pankkake: I was surprised the image you posted was SFW
mp_on_a_boat: dude this sucks. when did this rebellion happen when all o youze are doing the porn and im all nsfFw
Apocalyptic: fluffypony, gotta love the lyrics
fluffypony: BEST BELIEVE HE'S ON A MOTHERFUCKING BOAT, YO
mp_on_a_boat: they pretend to sell to the shrinking market (young hawt chicks) to then sell inclusion to the growingt market (ugly fat broads)
mp_on_a_boat: justusranvier: It's a simple matter of math. If you want to run a successful venture, then target the potential customer base that is growing rather than the one that is shrinking << complex. take one of the largest scams out there, the LVHM conglomerate.
pankkake: dirigibles don't work on the moon
mp_on_a_boat: BingoBoingo: For a couple months I made it my mission to shove as much video into the NMC blockchain as possible << why ?
mp_on_a_boat: wtf, i dun wanna be flying around in the clay pigeon
mp_on_a_boat: norwegian made they say
mp_on_a_boat: so is it going all the way to 670 prior to usms disclosure ?
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benkay: after the distraction passed, he went back to the pile of food on the floor and cleaned it up.
benkay: subject of dogs, my monster was just eating breakfast when something happened outside that caught his attention. he howled at it but with a throat full of food so it came out in this hilariously muffled "wooooOOoOooOOoo", after which he coughed his food up onto the floor, 'cause naturally the body doesn't like doing all of those things at the same time.
asciilifeform: pankkake: doesn't exist yet, and it already modified my crypto processes >> impatient man can, theoretically, make his own, just based on the description.
benkay: <BingoBoingo> Brother and wife babysat a "puppy (80 lb pitbull mix)" // lol some puppy
ThickAsThieves: looks like someone did the FOIA already http://bitquant.wordpress.com/2014/06/28/bitcoin-foia-request/
ThickAsThieves: ;;notes ThickasTheives
gribble: I currently have notes waiting for agentx24, bitcoinpete, buanzo, Cametam, EricNakamoto, fbastage, frankenmint, Immukization, iwilcox, moiety, mrbutler, ninjashogun, nubbins, oleganza, organofcorti, phelps, Phinnaeus, plezoh, princesnell, princessnell, ryepdx, sic_nic, starsoccer9, ThickasTheives, and tweeeaks.
pankkake: ThickAsThieves: you have a note waiting as "ThickasTheives"
pankkake: funny how the Cardano doesn't exist yet, and it already modified my crypto processes
punkman: all kinds of crap in there
pankkake: lol the project has a web interface
pankkake: oh cool. I would have thought the ginormous key size prevented it
mircea_popescu: there's precedent, some miner bet was delayed a week
ThickAsThieves: question, what if we don't find out what the coins were purchased for at auction today, and we have to wait for a FOIA request or such? (re: http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/)
ThickAsThieves: maybe the copywriter is dyslexic
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: how can this be in the same line, "100% profitable" and "no scam" << maybe you should be banned from reading advertisings.
fluffypony: can't believe they can jam 1tb into that
gribble: You rated user moiety on Sat May 3 17:09:00 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: the Cat Lady of Bitcoin Assets.
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fluffypony: ;;later tell moiety it arrived safely - and thanks for the sweets!
assbot: I have a friend in the USMS and I know the sale price. Ask me any details you want. : Bitcoin
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: you mean this thread - http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29geoq/i_have_a_friend_in_the_usms_and_i_know_the_sale/
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pankkake: jurov: I want to buy, but I can't because the wire isn't done yet
jurov: pankkake i still don't understand. regardless if you sell at otc or on exchange, the moment sepa transfer is initiated, the price is fixed anyway
assbot: Tomorrow US will announce auction winners for confiscated 30K bitcoins. I predict the price will be at least 3x the market (>$1800/btc).
pankkake: https://twitter.com/oleganza/status/483256552938536960 that was a the top of reddit. someone still on twitter tell him to bitbet or stfu :)
ThickAsThieves: i made the price go up!
pankkake: well my bank is closed today I think, so that won't be today either
pankkake: everytime I've bought, the price was fixed beforehand
pankkake: that's actually why otc is nice, we fix the price before
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i suspect you might be the only one here who knows the first thing about the craft of sports bet. << Not much craft really, mostly pricing risk for puchase or sale\
BingoBoingo: Except. Coyotes seems to price risk well and leave when I piss on their favorite dumpsters.
BingoBoingo: For some 80 lb pitbill puppy to lay teeth on F.... I regert not being there to treat him as one does a coyote.
BingoBoingo: What I know is that since I like F. the "puppy" would have been corrected more efficiently if I was there. F. weights just about 30 lbs...
justusranvier: Both of my dogs are bitches. They squabble fairly frequently, but don't need to draw blood.
BingoBoingo: I dunno why I think this is important (or do I WANT) the CIA/NSA/OMGWTFBBQ to think I am a drunk????
BingoBoingo: F. goes to the vet gets stitched. Pitbull mix lives, because... I dunno why.
BingoBoingo: Frank walked by while the "puppy" was guarding a 'bear (stuffed animal)' under the coffee table.
BingoBoingo: Brother and wife babysat a "puppy (80 lb pitbull mix)"
BingoBoingo: So, F. My brother and his wife's dog is mostly corgi, the rest other herding dogs. Plays alpha in all of his canine interactions or else spirals into depression.
BingoBoingo: Story for the dog injury differs a bit.
BingoBoingo: In other news justusranvier My brother's dog gets its stutches out tomorrow. My brother isn't a synthetic of you is he???
BingoBoingo: Right. I just though it was timed with a conversation I was supposing wherein for some people the most profitable market might be a synthetic grey market against themselves
justusranvier: It's a simple matter of math. If you want to run a successful venture, then target the potential customer base that is growing rather than the one that is shrinking
BingoBoingo: I look more at the Grey market, but... sympathize with you that the power of BTC as better money materializes first in areas that need money most.
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BingoBoingo: For a couple months I made it my mission to shove as much video into the NMC blockchain as possible
BingoBoingo: Honestly my biggest problem with a lot of the cryptocoin derps isn't that they don't know the history, but that they don't know how many corners the history has.
asciilifeform is unfamiliar with the listed derps
BingoBoingo: The Base unit he chose, devcoin
asciilifeform: rather than an actual means of running exchange that can be operated purely through blockchain activity
BingoBoingo: Honestly for all of the NxT and Mastercoin Derp, I think knotwork actually had the whole stack working well first on OT
BingoBoingo: Ive heard things like this described. OpenTransaction is the only close to working way I know to do this with yourself though.
asciilifeform: i described this here when first found the channel, somebody (mp?) said, 'this is being built'
asciilifeform: idea was, you send, e.g. some btc to addr A, in n parcels. low bits of the parcels encode, e.g. an ltc address. to which the corresponding amount of ltc is then sent.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It isn't but I offered the more deniable choice.
asciilifeform: not sure if this is the same thing
BingoBoingo: There's like 100 of those nao.
asciilifeform: the one operated purely by magic transactions
asciilifeform: incidentally: whatever happened to the automatic multi-chain coin exchange?
BingoBoingo: How much effort and time goes into the pretense of happy accidents is a test of one's tolerance for rectal heating.
BingoBoingo: And the ancient coins slumber again for a while.
BingoBoingo: At some point the book you played on folds...
BingoBoingo: You move the ancient coins in a way that feigns a rougue BTC sports book, withdraw as apportunity presents and record that for the soldering iron.
BingoBoingo: Only the happy accident of seeing an overpriced big name attract too much money to her side and the profit of whoever takes it
asciilifeform: do i misunderstand - to win in a bet, some fellow has to bet on... other sid
BingoBoingo: Between the lines I never suppose a necessary second ot third party asciilifeform
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i suspect you might be the only one here who knows the first thing about the craft of sports bet.
kakobrekla: how can this be in the same line, "100% profitable" and "no scam"
BingoBoingo: This particular "happy accident" has reliably worked since last summer. Implementation as always though is ledt to the reader to their ability.
BingoBoingo: But, due to name, anytime line betting operators give Serena William's opponent decimal odds less than 10, there is opportunity to either have or create a "happy accident"
BingoBoingo: How to cover such a thing is an exercise for people who study these things.
BingoBoingo: There is exactly one sort of happy Accident I can suggest happens with some certainty if anyone needs such a thing.
BingoBoingo: My greatest hope for the week is that I find I can begin working at a library for dollars, cutting the BTC burn rate to below zero
BingoBoingo: Mar 20 21:52:16 <ninjashogun>On the other hand for text analysis reasons I don't think he should post even anonymized quotes. Most people's writing is extremely characteristic << The UnSavory Garnish reveals he is indeed a Vegetable
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I imagine for ~90% of people who have BTC fortunes an aren't retards with ridiculous burn rates, they wait for the terraforming wrought by more adventurous holders
BingoBoingo: Once I get through the mess of leftovers I might finally get to start training these skillets on old favorites like headcheese scrambled in eggs.
BingoBoingo: Fry 3 pounds of shrimp, sure. throw two pounds of those in an 8 egg omlette? Why the fuck not.
BingoBoingo: In other news, there is a downside to restoring and seasoning ancient cast iron... Suddenly you get a hunger for everything in the fridge and freezer.
asciilifeform: or - just because it's there
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: My point is how many here other than the brazen and very old to the BTC game have secret fortunes that could be easily or completely enumerated by an outsider.
mircea_popescu: that's the different sort. cynics.
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> Little do they realize that this channel is largely a bunch of happy paupers << it wouldn't surprise me if stoics were indeed the majority.
BingoBoingo: Little do they realize that this channel is largely a bunch of happy paupers
asciilifeform: e.g. the plot of american tv series 'silicon valley'
asciilifeform: one of the few interesting things about our local turdmeister is how his scriptwriter was supplied with a defective 'world build' narrative by the brass. e.g. that folks in this channel eat, sleep, jerk off to, the eternal dream of being uplifted into the vc circus
asciilifeform: the exchange described above usually happened in class, where you can't square off
BingoBoingo: 1st grade in USA not that long ago we just beat each other up to establish things
asciilifeform: mr spam & his claims reminds me of 1st grade in ussr. kid-1: 'my father can beat up your father' kid-2: 'my father is a general!' kid-3: 'my father is a general and has own tank!' kid-4: 'well! my father...'
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: When he first mentioned the startup name I though he ould have been Colin.
BingoBoingo: Appologies on the spelling, but reality distortion field
BingoBoingo: ninjashogun> Btw I'm not the only founder you guys have trolled and ninjashogun> I can dox someone else from -assets that you guys absolutely trolled, who is a real-world VC and multi-millionaire are quotes from latest PM'ing of me
BingoBoingo: Mar 20 21:17:52 <ninjashogun>(You're not going to like this answer, but for my suggested Version 2: Wifi has less trust implicit architecturally it is not possible to automount a usb keyboard over wifi. You woudl have to break the wifi protocol, or use it in an unintended way as a carrier for other internal data) << Moment he became an UnSavory Garnish
benkay: the nerve!
BingoBoingo: Mar 20 21:02:11 <ninjashogun>even if someone did see it at 4 AM, they would doubt their sanity << Best hours of my day
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BingoBoingo: I'm a big fan of the chaos vs. order minigame
BingoBoingo: blockr.io seems to have the same issue
mod6: this thing always tries to make the jump to lightspeed when there is a block that is "right now"
assbot: War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!
BingoBoingo: Blazedout419: http://www.therealaltcoin.org/
BingoBoingo: Diatomecious Earth has a similar effect, but it cuts during the process
asciilifeform: (if anyone wants to mirror the epic, be my guest)
asciilifeform: one pinch of salt should suffice for slug. for anyone unfamiliar with the matter, 'ninjashogun.txt' speaks for itself.
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user ninjashogun: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -3 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=ninjashogun | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=ninjashogun | Rated since: Thu Jun 26 19:05:58 2014
gribble: You rated user ninjashogun on Sun Jun 29 19:31:19 2014, with a rating of -3, and supplied these additional notes: UnSavory Garnish, Vegetable.
asciilifeform: with the 'mark of madness, expecting different result from same approach'
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: i admit that when i first posted it, i expected mr spam to cry evil libel, deny that the words were his.
assbot: War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!
mthreat: ^ that's the best bet
kakobrekla: alright, as long the limits are clear
mthreat: kakobrekla: there isn't a specific way to search for filenames... just try to search for a token in the filename, or use a prefix search like "foo*"
benkay: the only cure for that waste of time is TITS.
benkay: k i'm going to spend quality time with the lady
BingoBoingo: No useful background check ever happened over the phone
asciilifeform: re: louis slot and his jamming screwdriver into slot << even more appropriate name, E. Забабахин (Zababakhin) - one of the authors of the russian h-bomb. roughtly 'bringer of big boom'
BingoBoingo: What the everloving fuck did you do benkay
benkay: i just spent 2.5 hours on the phone with ninjashogun
kakobrekla: mthreat how do you find that url by the filename ?
mod6: sometimes it gets wacked out on the time... it /had/ been working better. will look into...
mthreat: asciilifeform: I think he fixed the url-encoding problem
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform from what i recall, the mentall ill sort.
BingoBoingo: My favorite part of the Slotin story is Man makes mistake. Man pays for mistake.
asciilifeform: afaik it's no secret the fellow was a snake
mircea_popescu: sidered placing him on probation, a fate prevented by his parents successfully lobbying the authorities."
mircea_popescu: "He developed an antagonistic relationship with his tutor, Patrick Blackett, who was only a few years his senior. While on vacation, as recalled by his friend Francis Fergusson, Oppenheimer once confessed that he had left an apple doused with noxious chemicals on Blackett's desk. While Ferguson's account is the only detailed version of this event, Oppenheimer's parents were alerted by the university authorities who con
mircea_popescu: didn't he drop the berylium ?
BingoBoingo: My favorite is Slotin, the Incredible Hulk.
asciilifeform: the ultimate case study in brain rot
mircea_popescu: what did oppenheimer do, other than derp about peace and assorted libertard bullshit ?
asciilifeform: teller was an actual person, but haunted for his entire life for failing to have actually done the one thing he was famous for.