ThickAsThieves: i wanna know the legal deets about why i dont know this auction price yet
GinAddict1: sorry i don't get the reference to gmaxwell and this one is .. about trusting untrusted nodes i guess
mircea_popescu: GinAddict1 wait, is this one of those "let nsa put some bugs in, then take out the visible ones and it's good to go" sorta deal ?
mircea_popescu: don't knock it, whatever the pr0n, someone's rubbing to it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im sure there must be a fatass white boi market somewhere.
GinAddict1: but according to others core devs it's been narrowed to the point that the obviously harmful stuff is gone
assbot: Add a getutxos command to the p2p protocol by mikehearn Pull Request #4351 bitcoin/bitcoin GitHub
mircea_popescu: GinAddict1 mike is the chief enemy plant in bitcoin. he's the guy that merged heartbleed in bitcoin for absolutely no legitimatereason, and he's the guy that forced a hard fork, idem.
ThickAsThieves: Does Draper's Purchase of BTC for Vaurum Add to the Total Venture Capital Balance?
ThickAsThieves: who suggested DAO system on Ethereum
ThickAsThieves: $10k goes to the runner up
ThickAsThieves: Mike has agreed to release the platform as open source before the end of August. He will be awarded $40,000 on completion. After the platform is live, I will put an additional $50,000 towards the first core dev crowdfunding project that gets made on it. This should help them become independent the moment it gets released, and hopefully will start streamlining Bitcoin core development
GinAddict1: ThickAsThieves: I saw that, is Mike foundation friendly or? has he agreed? I don't see comments of his in the reddit post
GinAddict1: english not being first language for neither of us
GinAddict1: i miscommunicated with my graphic designer and in a table on the home there was a column called Hack proof instead of "Improved security"
mircea_popescu: specifically, " there was some marketing/dev mismatch"
mircea_popescu: so then who miscomunicated with whom ?
GinAddict1: but coding wise i'm the least contributor
GinAddict1: I'm the founder, I code, I manage, I PR but more than anything I'm a bitcoiner first
GinAddict1: mircea_popescu: we def had a really bad start, initially there was some marketing/dev mismatch and in our home we even said "Hack proof" when i actually wanted to say "Improved security"
GinAddict1: there was a blog post by pete
ThickAsThieves: The safer Bitcoin wallet that puts you in control
mircea_popescu: o no wait, that was pankkake. i got the fake identities mixed up
mircea_popescu: mike_c im just looking at the diff %
mike_c: stabilization is a bit strong. it's been running slow the last couple weeks, and is now running quite fast.
bitcoinpete: "The European Court of Human Rights on Tuesday upheld France's ban on wearing full-face veils in public, rejecting arguments that the ban undermines freedoms of religion and expression."
mircea_popescu: when that window widens, the economy necessarily is losing contanct.
mircea_popescu: in general a working economy exists to close the zero-infinity price window
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you know this polarization problem is perhaps the largest pile of conclusive proof that the official indicators are all fake.
mircea_popescu: is that sugared water with some pee in it is really trivial to make, so the entire product is the package.
ThickAsThieves: however i wouldnt touch GPRO with a 10ft pole, way too many people thinking the same thing at opposite poles
mircea_popescu: the reason that shit works for coca cola (and immitators, a la red bull)
mthreat: their marketing seems to be similar to red bull (extreme sports marketing)
mircea_popescu: mthreat not really. they dropship some gear some azn companies designed, made and assembled.
pankkake: most companies I've been in have two kind of headcounts. the real one and the investors one - both being from real data
mircea_popescu: this is the lulzy thing about "headcount-based" ipos and perception of value :
benkay: no one expects the kickstarter upheaval!
ThickAsThieves: nothing, that's the short answer
bitcoinpete: mostly the accessories
asciilifeform: what is so nice about the camera?
bitcoinpete: "the percentage of shares available to loan that are actually being borrowed–is near 100%,"
bitcoinpete: http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/07/02/betting-on-big-drop-shorts-borrow-all-the-gopro-stock-they-can/
ThickAsThieves: s'all good in the hood
ThickAsThieves: thats the auction weiner
artifexd: No worries. Take a breath. Regroup. Learn to use the tools at your disposal (brain, eyes, wot, google). Come back stronger, better.
artifexd: xmj: Learn to use the WOT. Seriously. 30 seconds of perusing http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=magicaltux would have told you all you need to know.
gribble: You rated user MagicalTux on Thu Feb 27 08:13:53 2014, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: ate all the coins.
ThickAsThieves: ;;rate nanotube 2 thanks for all the tubes!
artifexd: That was a joke. Seriously though, if what mike_c says is correct, then anyone (with a positive rating) on this list could assist: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=nanotube&sign=ANY&type=SENT
ThickAsThieves: i'm also open to requests from others for features or polish to take care of for ATC stuff
mike_c: that would be great.. not sure we ever got the dns sorted.
ThickAsThieves: i'd like a windows wallet made from the source
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xmj: i described how many of the startups use amazon web services.
assbot: therealaltcoin/altcoin GitHub
artifexd: mp is the source of xmj's negrating
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thestringpuller: ;;gettrust nanotube thestringpuller
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davout: thestringpuller: good taste in hip hop sounds like an oxymoron
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gribble: You rated user ThickAsThieves on Sat May 3 13:01:40 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: Has good taste in hip-hop..
gribble: Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
mike_c: ah. you must have net positive ratings to rate other people, right?
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pankkake: how you can trust it's really them?
mthreat: colonia is in uruguay, across the river from buenos aires
ThickAsThieves: btw Blockchain users can use http://blockchain.com to access wallets, while we resolve the .info domain problems
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pankkake: oh, maybe cloudflare breaking the API again
pankkake: there, I fixed it
assbot: How Government Forces the Poor Into Black Markets - Peter St. Onge - Mises Daily
ThickAsThieves: "Russian authorities have softened their tone on Bitcoin; the central bank now says it won't hamper the usage of the virtual currency whereas previously it had vowed to crack down on the electronic payment instrument."
ThickAsThieves: "Charlie Shrem will discuss the lessons he has learned at the American Banker Digital Currencies convention in NYC"
punkman: they also own bitme.com , here's their guy on the forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=56571;sa=showPosts
ThickAsThieves: The statement was issued by Vaurum, a Palo Alto-based company that facilitates over-the-counter bitcoin trading for financial institutions and high-net-worth traders, of which Draper is a major backer.
ThickAsThieves: "With the help of Vaurum and this newly purchased bitcoin, we expect to be able to create new services that can provide liquidity and confidence to markets that have been hamstrung by weak currencies," Draper said in the statement.
fluffypony: call them names
ThickAsThieves: USMS has not responded to my email yet, the nerve!
assbot: Bitcoin startup CoinLab lands funding from Tim Draper and others, aims to help monetize games - GeekWire
ThickAsThieves: "I like bitcoin. Bitcoin could really transform all of the currencies of the world. It could end up being a way for money to move much faster. Money moving faster means more liquidity, which means more wealth for the whole world, more deals. If I make a deal with you, we’re both better off. We can make those deals better and faster with bitcoin. That’s exciting."
ThickAsThieves: VB: Are there any sectors or companies you’re most excited about?
assbot: Draper Fisher Jurvetson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
ThickAsThieves: i almost said 'you coy motherfucker' instead
assbot: And the winner is.../TimDraper. Well done, Tim. Don't go spending all your bitcoin in one place. But if you do...https://t.co/JprUxGrxFs
Mats_cd03 rubs hands together gleefully
Mats_cd03: got the hackrf in mail today
assbot: Valiant prince MP explores the mother of all echo chambers. A saga of our times. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
BingoBoingo: http://trilema.com/2013/valiant-prince-mp-explores-the-mother-of-all-echo-chambers-a-saga-of-our-times << retro Trilema reading for tonight
pankkake: me neither. I have a e-reader that has a touch screen, even touching to change the page… meh
BingoBoingo: I actually kind miss my Blackberry from time to time... Then I remember how much Android sucked and cuddle with my beautiful flip phone
punkman: I've been using a smartassphone since I dropped my awesome dumbphone in the toilet. I don't know how anyone can type or click anything on a touchscreen, most aggravating thing ever.
BingoBoingo: Then again people have been doing that since Windows 3.1
BingoBoingo: "Without any keyboard or mouse or USB ports, went the critique, the iPad would turn us into passive gobblers of commercial content. Wed read stuff, watch stuff, and listen to stuff that was spoon-fed to us. But wed never make any stuff of our own." << exactly what happened
BingoBoingo: OMG: Double Spank, the original criticisms were right http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2014/06/adobe_ink_adobe_slide_new_tools_that_promise_to_improve_drawing_on_tablets.html
BingoBoingo: SHA coins are Europe and Scrypt coins are the Middle east post Arab spring
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Last year it seemed like that might be the case for a short time to a n00b
punkman: that's some nice profit there
punkman: hmm, yahoo only paid $1 billion for their Alibaba share in 2005
BingoBoingo: Maybe they even sell the Yahoo brand and some other venture lets the media imagine "Yahoo" survived
pankkake: lol the litecoin bagholders quickly censored me again
BingoBoingo: Shame noone in "business journalism" has the balls to suggest yahoo just sell what it can and return capital to investors.
BingoBoingo: ATM even touching them is too much work
BingoBoingo: Maybe eventually I redeem the LTC at 44 satoshis per agains $10k BTC
punkman: I got some doge on a retired disk, hoping doge will stop existing so I don't have to ever dig them out
BingoBoingo: The current litecoin crash really doesn't affect it though.
BingoBoingo: Then yes, alibaba exapands into everything, provided there is an opportunity for them to take a cut of the action.
BingoBoingo: The later two traffic information. Alibaba enables and smooths actual commerce.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell bitstein What is up with the Satoshi institute surrendering to Disqus???
assbot: College Degrees / Expertise? - Small Talk - Crazy Talk: The Crazymeds Forum
punkman: they still have some left
BingoBoingo: Now the "search engine leader" drops weight from nearly any link more than 3 or 4 years old.
cazalla: plus they would forget to remove the link after you paid for a year so it was typically a one off payment for perma link
BingoBoingo: Indeed, but that was then.
cazalla: it wasn't a bad paid link back in the day
BingoBoingo: punkman: In three years, once the blog has been living on its own hardware for a while... That might be the time to throw Yahoo some pity pennies.
punkman: BingoBoingo: I wonder how many people still pay $299 to be listed in the Yahoo Directory
BingoBoingo: punkman: Everyone know that Yahoo's brand of death only welcomes other members of the dead
jborkl: So that is the first part, about a week and it will complete
BingoBoingo: benkay: How is the bedtime mandate working out?
assbot: If I was pitching, after Sandoval shook his first 'round the bases after homering for the 1st time in a month, somebody's getting a bruise.
BingoBoingo: I remember what happened last time I tried to crush a bubble. If mother fuckers want to burn themselves out, I can wait this time.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell artifexd You interested in further business???
BingoBoingo: "An Amish friend unconnected to the Florida Thing once said to me, You think your life is complicated and ours is simple, but its the opposite. You just take everything as it comes. Were constantly having to figure out what to do with new things. As an Amish man told Donald Kraybill, The Amish survived persecution in Europe, but Im not sure theyll be able to survive prosperity."
BingoBoingo: "According to the balance sheets of one company, Mofco Group, $1.2 million had been spent on site construction and $3.3 million on other development costs, and yet the site in Bushnell lay essentially empty. More important, there was only $65,541 cash on hand; most of the $15 million-plus that Moffitt had raised was gone. "
BingoBoingo: "They directed more than one company involved to send a rescission offer to all the investorsa multipage document telling them they could choose to immediately recoup their money, with 6 percent interest, if they pulled out. The rescission offer revealed a dire fiscal situation."
BingoBoingo: "Right away, Crill learned that Moffitt was selling securities without having registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission. So he set up a meeting with Moffitt and Paul Smucker, one of the main Amish investors, at Smuckers house in Lancaster."
mike_c: wow, the death bombs have been brutal
assbot: The dark side of .io: How the U.K. is making web domain profits from a shady Cold War land deal — Tech News and Analysis
BingoBoingo: http://gigaom.com/2014/06/30/the-dark-side-of-io-how-the-u-k-is-making-web-domain-profits-from-a-shady-cold-war-land-deal/
assbot: War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!
BingoBoingo: Namworld: Oh, just setting up a machine as a node. Downloaded the blockchain by torrent in about an hour. It's on hour six of importing the blackchain into Bitcoind and still has the better part of 2013 to get through.
BingoBoingo: Miracle brought to us by Bitcoin: Computers that can torrent the blockchain faster than they can import it from disk
Namworld: I'll look on the reverse for it.
BingoBoingo: Or whatever the ettiquette is in your new locale
Namworld: I might be a bit on and off for the next week or two. Going to move out to a new place.
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: ATC
kyuupichan: BTC blocks are very slow since the retarget
BingoBoingo: I wonder how much of this hashpower coming onto ATC is simply to help WoL's game of the week progress in a timely manner?
gribble: Error: This is not one of the supported markets. Please choose one of ['bcent', 'okc', 'btcn', 'coinbase', 'cbx', 'bitmynt', 'btsp', 'btcavg', 'krk', 'btcde', 'btce', 'bfx'] or 'all'
gribble: Error: That's all, there is no more.
decimation: ascii, this is proof of the point you made the other day. If USG finds a website for 'hos intolerable, how much more intolerable would a "private army" be?
assbot: Whose RedBook? Why Everyone Should be Concerned By the Seizure of MyRedBook.Com | Electronic Frontier Foundation
mike_c: the addl capital?
BingoBoingo: mike_c: There's a surprise in the statement you may want to insert into your tracker...
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/07/01/june-combined-trading-statement/
jonvaage: There we go. Thanks, BingoBoingo
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benkay: is this similar to the mongodb "don't shit your pants" setting?
kakobrekla: that seems to be the case.
kakobrekla: if anyone is particularly interested, i looked into why a negative prefix appears in the statement at the gain spec
bitcoinpete: i'm off to the pool party
bitstein: Good to know. I use Google Music all the time, so I'll be expecting nice things.
kakobrekla: should prolly exclude the lines that start with !s or smth
mike_c: tomorrow there will be 200 results.
ThickAsThieves: the public thanks you for your contribution
benkay: aaaand mine's not public either.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
kakobrekla: ;;later tell mike_c is the search satisfactory now?
pankkake: lol twittos are really insecure if they do that
benkay: that's kinda irritating, as tab-completes look backwards to the last space.
ThickAsThieves: hah and then twitter wont let you tweet it again!
ThickAsThieves: so is this a thing, you reply negatively to a tweet, then poster deleted op and retweets anew, disconnecting your comment from their feed
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rithm: mastercard won the auction obv
ThickAsThieves: mp tell us what you paid for the auction coinz!
Duffer1: i would have though NO would be the overwhelming favorite
kakobrekla: i think the space is just replaced with +
mike_c: because the space is being double-url encoded instead of single url-encoded
mike_c: or at least the first isn't
kakobrekla: how are they not
kakobrekla: the search does
assbot: How robots will write earnings stories for the AP
rithm: sorry i misplaced the link
rithm: that's the rumor i heard on twitter
ThickAsThieves: he's gassing the gypsies now?
BingoBoingo: College students embeded in towns that could otherwise stand on their own behave differently.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, there's a differences between college towns and towns will colleges. A proper college town is the only thing resembling civilization for ~50 miles around.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform> BingoBoingo, mp_a_colonia: where i live, pawn shops are very peculiar places, where nothing is priced remotely close to what any sane person would pay. probably just cash laundries. << College towns tend to have saner pricing. Mix of broke students with nice stuff from their relatives and people who want bling, but can't pay mall prices.
mp_a_colonia: so what was the holdup ?
BingoBoingo: <mp_a_colonia> BingoBoingo: Honestly given enough pawn shop visits the most impressive pieces can be foun for ~$100-200 (Movados without the retarded Museum dial and others) << you know this could be a great business for you ? << I've considered such things.
benkay: <mp_a_colonia> benkay: the girl's recently gotten rather militant about our sleep schedules - i'm interested in the topic at large. << which way ? // early to bed, early to rise...
mp_a_colonia: and i ngeneral the press'd better figure it out too. if it can';t collect a btc in bitbet bets it ain't news, nor does it matter for bitcoin.
mp_a_colonia: this sort of crap isn't going to be getting through. apparently nobody the fuck cares what newegg does.
asciilifeform: mp_a_colonia: what must they be drinking to crap out yet another 'seekoore mail' ssl gizmo ?
mp_a_colonia: jurov: lol "questioned whether ProtonMail is legal and if we have government approval to encrypt emails" << what would they be drinking to use paypal ?
mp_a_colonia: TheNewDeal: just in case price jumps up really quickly, or whats the point? << for a long time that seemed like forever back in 2012, Luke-Jr was selling btc for 20 dollars each.
mp_a_colonia: asciilifeform: it's out of a bizarre lsd trip idea that 'crowd has wisdom' and voting can sum intelligence << if the crowd is randomly distributed, then the result of averaging it is lower errors. like the scientific process.
mp_a_colonia: "but it's all we can do!!1 we shouldn't be let out!!11 why should tha tasshole dominate the field!!11"
mp_a_colonia: surprised if there's a lot of attempts to bake cunnilingus in ?
mp_a_colonia: asciilifeform: i just don't get it. people keep asking to bake 'democracy' in << suppose there's a class of 16 year olds. the girls are all hormonal, the boys are all eunuchs save one.
mp_a_colonia: BingoBoingo, oddly enough i actually like the tick seconds, dislike smooth watches.
mp_a_colonia: the "retail is for suckers" line is old for a reason.
mp_a_colonia: travel all ove rthe states to buy cheapo shit like thaqt, sell it to bitcoiners who can't be arsed to do it
mp_a_colonia: BingoBoingo: Honestly given enough pawn shop visits the most impressive pieces can be foun for ~$100-200 (Movados without the retarded Museum dial and others) << you know this could be a great business for you ?
mp_a_colonia: mike_c: at least he's not getting gold embossed business cards :p << omfg i go to take the bishes to the beash for ONE DAY, the whole operation's in shambles
mp_a_colonia: RainMan28, generally the fringe gets lucky on major upswing. if we cross 1k...
asciilifeform: i pondered for ages, why herr sp4mz0r wants the 30. (as if he couldn't ask his handler for 300.) but then thought: if some dope ponies up, and 'partners' with him, he can headcrab onto the operation and do his thing.
asciilifeform once read an obscure treatise on the tricks bums use to get into jail
mp_a_colonia: they can all be lawyers, to spend a few years decrypting the "russians" communications, and a few decades on govt life support regfusingf to decrypt them
mp_a_colonia: from the u.s. school of rectothermodynamics: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/massachusetts-high-court-orders-suspect-to-decrypt-his-computers << is htis one of those where you can end up in jail permanently without habeas corpus / other review because "you're holding the keys to your cell" legal philosophy ?
nubbins`: srsly, the cut edges feel like a smooth surface
mp_a_colonia: nubbins`, now the phone book trick is cool.
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
mp_a_colonia: ThickAsThieves: maybe theyll email it out by mistake << o i thought i was the only one that didn;t get emailed the result yet.
nubbins`: or maybe they were worried about alzheimer's
mp_a_colonia: only time i had the thing was in egypt and they were kinda regimented aobut using glass
nubbins`: usually i use 500ml can. turns out the 355ml actually works better
fluffypony: quail starter leaves a bit to be desired, unfortunately, but the duck breast main is great
mp_a_colonia: fluffypony, he's prolly just busy with the harem
mp_a_colonia: rithm: i'm pretty excited about that << o ya ? im downegragting ytou when i get to the mothership!!1
pankkake: oh it's the same guy as 100th?
fluffypony: depends on if you use the Usagi Backup Method or not
pankkake: also, I don't see a situation where I would lose my gpg key but not the bitcoin address