mircea_popescu: might as well forbid them "for privacy"
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure utilities are required to report the top 5% iirc it was consumers in dormitory neighbourhoods.
Dalrymple: I think she might have been selling some of the panels too
asciilifeform: u.s. police were officially forbidden from using thermovisors, but afaik still do (why the hell not)
mircea_popescu: i thought they liked high heat/high humidity no ?
mircea_popescu: led to avoiud the high energy consumption police screen for sort of thing ?
kakobrekla: (i do NOT mean the hashish)
Dalrymple: Weed has a high profit margin, which probably increases in proportion to the crapness of tv and the sugar content of junk food
kakobrekla: yes yes but where is the addiction part
Dalrymple: She's using the led panels to grow weed
kakobrekla: <Dalrymple> The boss was a disgusting she-prole who I later learned is a drug dealer, she was trying to get me in on it - ordering LCD panels from China < you can get addicted to ordering panels from china!?
Dalrymple: Yet if a man acted like this the feminists would accuse him of "mansplaining", which proves that they are capable of irritating portmanteaus but oblivious to their own hypocrisy
ThickAsThieves: Inject feminism into your daily conversations with other men.
benkay: // don't ask for clarification, or other difficult questions. that's sexist.
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dignork: Dalrymple: there are sellers in #bitcoin-otc, if you want I can give you some minimal instructions
Dalrymple: Thanks, that site was the first one I came across, so obviously I will have a proper look around for verified sites before I buy anything
Dalrymple: She was trying to get me in on it without initially revealing what the panels were for, luckily I left before I got involved
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Dalrymple: The boss was a disgusting she-prole who I later learned is a drug dealer, she was trying to get me in on it - ordering LCD panels from China to use on indoor maurijuana crops
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mike_c: ;;google site:www.thedrinkingrecord.com counterparty risk
asciilifeform: Dalrymple: so long as you don't expect the exchange rate to increase monotonically - sure, buy.
Dalrymple: I've been doing some research and am considering buying a coin since it seems from what I have read the price is due to go up soon
Dalrymple: The man himself prefers antique books to computers
asciilifeform: ^ for the uninitiated
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asciilifeform: ;;google theodore dalrymple
mircea_popescu: i have no idea how could one be more offensively impolite than making a contact page and then putting in a form.
asciilifeform: overfulfilled. In any case, sixty-two millions was no nearer the truth than fifty-seven millions, or than 145 millions. Very likely no boots had been produced at all. Likelier still, nobody knew how many had been produced, much less cared. All one knew was that every quarter astronomical numbers of boots were produced on paper, while perhaps half the population of Oceania went barefoot.'
asciilifeform: ctified version. A great deal of the time you were expected to make them up out of your head. For example, the Ministry of Plenty's forecast had estimated the output of boots for the quarter at 145 million pairs. The actual output was given as sixty-two millions. Winston, however, in rewriting the forecast, marked the figure down to fifty-seven millions, so as to allow for the usual claim that the quota had been
asciilifeform: 'But actually, he thought as he re-adjusted the Ministry of Plenty's figures, it was not even forgery. It was merely the substitution of one piece of nonsense for another. Most of the material that you were dealing with had no connexion with anything in the real world, not even the kind of connexion that is contained in a direct lie. Statistics were just as much a fantasy in their original version as in their re
mircea_popescu: ians realize the dollar system is not in their interest, and they are going to leave it. . . . If any significant part of the world stops using the dollar, the price of the dollar falls because demand for dollars falls, and the import cost for America would rise. When you see how import dependent we are, it would mean a substantial rise in the real cost of living for most Americans.
mircea_popescu: On the Ukraine crisis, Dr. Roberts says, I think Washington badly miscalculated this whole Ukraine business. It was an act of hubris, arrogance and stupidity. They are mad at Russia for blocking their attack on Syria and blocking their attack on Iran. They said well teach them. Well give them trouble in their own backyard and not to get in our way anymore. The threat of sanctions has made the Russ
mircea_popescu: where did all the guys that used to argue with me about the fakeness of usg published figures go!
mircea_popescu: h quarter. Most likely, this coming quarter, they are not going to be able to hide the fact that it is negative. . . . I am convinced the first quarter was negative, and I dont see how it could possibly go positive in the second quarter.
mircea_popescu: On the steep drop in GDP growth of a paltry .1% in the first quarter, Dr. Roberts says, What I find most amusing about this is they had to claim some real growth in the first quarter; so, they eked out .1%. Now we know they got that by rigging the inflation number they used to deflate the gross domestic product (GDP). The real GDP in the first quarter, properly deflated, was negative and probably also in the fourt
asciilifeform: 100% is the correct winblows tax rate.
mircea_popescu: mike_c no, call it tax in the ui.
mike_c: call it the tx fee in the UI, and don't actually pay tx fee (or reduced fee). difference goes to author.
BingoBoingo: The multibit authors are explicitly moving to this model now
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nobody << not exactly. i have a proof-of-concept patch for the winblows client that does this.
asciilifeform: it'll ship some time after the u.s. gov.-issued, mandatory hardware btc wallet.
asciilifeform surprised the various chumpatronic engineers who push 'amazing! web based stock trading' crud haven't come out with one yet
benkay: i'm not an oddsmaker, guys. i make like one trade every six months and sit the fuck on top of it.
mircea_popescu: much like bitbet, there's ways to have edges here too. mostly on the vol/vol angle i guess
BingoBoingo: benkay: In that case your chance to buy is before the game starts
benkay: i like my edges, and i like them sharp.
benkay: yeah but in the open market i can say things like 'o hey mpoe will probably be worth quite a bit in the future." and play based on that.
mircea_popescu: you try to ensure it by calling them "open", but alas...
mircea_popescu: benkay this has the advantage that it's a provably fair stochastic process.
jurov: mike_c i don't like how it shows trending behavior from start to finish on most of the games
mike_c: benkay: it is a secret plot to give bingo all the ATC
BingoBoingo: Irony is it seems some of the most damaging things to life's cause were... Life Bombs
assbot: War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!
thestringpuller: how will the underprivilaged be able to live without socialism?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i was using btc as a unit of account stylistically, to underline the lulz that is fiat.
mircea_popescu: benkay if one's in the business of making money out of nothing, one's stuck doing it.
mircea_popescu: then if you need 1k btc to cover your profile you just take yields to 0.1%. or w/e, 0.00001% if need be.
mircea_popescu: where if you have 100 btc at 1% while the yields atr 0.5% you book a 200 btc passive.
mircea_popescu: looking forward to the "cash-basis bond evaluation" becoming a thing with us banks.
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mircea_popescu: sure you got drowned in spit, but they didn't mean anything by it.
mircea_popescu: china has a long history of making horrid public investments. that there's currently a china fed does not realy commit china
mircea_popescu: i think equating the part of china propping the us currently with china is at best naive.
mircea_popescu: irrespective of their motivations, whether they're there cause they're trying to fuck a guy's daughter or becaue they're drunk
mike_c: the fed isn't the sole buyer, they aren't entirely fake. there are others with vested interest in keeping us propped up.
mircea_popescu: tyhis has the disadvantage that it bubbles up the stock exchange and (again) real estate
mircea_popescu: their balance sheets consist entirely of worthless paper that has to be overvalued.
mircea_popescu: which is why fake low yields are so important for the us financials atm :
benkay: making all the old treasuries on all the US banks' books worth less, making them more depending on further bailouts?
mircea_popescu: if yields go down, everyone's old bonds expand on the books
mircea_popescu: so bonds being worth less really means the market's going to shit for the issuer. such as you know, default looming or w/e
mircea_popescu: it's a very schematic model, but for the basics : if yields go up low yield older bonds are worth less
benkay: because the available interest rate has gone up?
mircea_popescu: what is the value of A now ?
benkay: so a bond market is in a bubble if there is lots of demand for the bonds, allowing the issuer to issue for less money.
ThickAsThieves: sue all the risk!
mircea_popescu: pankkake shit's gotta be rounded, otherwise children could who knows, give themselves a new cunt on the corners of the thing
ThickAsThieves: it's also funny that it's "avoid the risk of"
mircea_popescu: Goldman Sachs filed with the New York Supreme Court, requesting "emergency relief" to avoid a privacy violation and "avoid the risk of unnecessary reputational damage to Goldman Sachs."
benkay: aren't they due to fold sometime this or next quarter?
benkay: hey who's the blogger doing really great mining analysis?
mircea_popescu: aren't they basically the start-up predicated on the notion that square made simple geometric shapes bankable ?
ThickAsThieves: indeed, so far, volume is the hardest thing for me to work with
mircea_popescu: they just look at price
mircea_popescu: noob traders generally don't understand that the trinity is price, volume, volatility.
mircea_popescu: do the people pamming me have 2k btc ready ?
mircea_popescu: suppose i bet 5 btc on "mp has three heads", then turn around and put 100 on the other side.
ThickAsThieves: just the sheepness i guess
ThickAsThieves: i dont like them but i cant articulate exactly why
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it's a great idea in theory whose greatness in practice depends on not being used.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i tell you honestly that's like the best customer support i've seen to date. you make me fucking proud.
ThickAsThieves: guncentralize all the things!
ThickAsThieves: On Tuesday, a misunderstanding between two armed men in a convenience store in Georgia led to one man drawing his gun and being arrested on the first day of the “guns everywhere” law.
asciilifeform: 'unknown number of times' << empty magazine in the end
mircea_popescu: you gotta keep in mind we're discussing this country where they have rooms where if anyone screams "freeze" all the adults just.. freeze
jurov: he threatened the officer with suicide? i see
mircea_popescu: Why would you shoot a child that is suicidal? You are there to save him, not finish him off.
penguirker: New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-femfanon/
BingoBoingo: <chetty> you know I wonder if these people that go on about various online bets argue with dealers at the blackjack table? << of course these people know what a casino is, it's the place they learned how to fly through a door
jurov: where are we in the 1930's script again?
mp_as_god: how the fuck do you reg and add nicks again ?
mircea_popescu: random factoid of the day : mongols used to call themselves "tata". the chinese called them daddy. that's the origin of the term, in all its permutations, big daddy and what have you.
benkay: in other news, i'm looking at wireframes and user experience jibberjabber for a biggish home automation project
asciilifeform: people still saw it as 'the thing to do'
asciilifeform: stalin died, condoms appeared, marriage as SOP didn't really start to sink till the '90s (ussr)
mircea_popescu: hey lambchop, if you're reading this : i've had enough entertainment i'm willing to pay. pick any bitbet you want, i'll put 1 btc in your name on the side of your choice. lemme know.
mircea_popescu: but you see, that was mostly because of the ban on contraception.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
benkay: ;;later tell hanbot by choosing bets that, as best can be determined, will be open for around a month at the least. // learned that one myself heh
mthreat: kakobrekla: the cron was running once per day, I just updated it to run once per hour
kakobrekla: lol again with the spyhouse
mircea_popescu: the reason isn't that she's fucking him, but quite exactly the contrary : unlike all the junior schmucks, she isn't.
mircea_popescu: generally speaking, the senior partner at a law firm will be fucking enraged if you manage to steal his secretary. he couldn't care less if half the junior "partners" leave.
mircea_popescu: eh. these people never ran an office.
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mircea_popescu: there ud fify
mircea_popescu: (no sexual relationship is part of either relationship)
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=work%20wife | That person at work (same or opposite sex) that takes the place of your "at home" spouse while you are at work (no sexual relationship is part of t...
gribble: The operation succeeded.
kakobrekla: what is the intern suppose to do
mircea_popescu: just like bacterium do it. which, i've been thinking, is actually a very interesting situation. with the mechanics of bitcoin serving as a fundamental thermodynamics implementation, and the wot serving as a singalling space,
mike_c: who wants to be the btcalpha intern?
chetty: no, he tries to rape her, cause thats his right, otherwise he is a victim of tea
pankkake: I'm more like George, girl invites me over to fuck, but I just drink the tea
mircea_popescu: then the girl just gives him tea. what now, does he throw a fit, rolling on the floor, snot everywhere ?
mircea_popescu: pankkake but whatever he thought then, right ? i mean suppose a girl invites him over and he THINKS it's for to fuck.
pankkake: that's why I didn't bet, actually, I'm surprised it was approved without a resolution source in the first place
pankkake: didn't he think that the info would not be available quickly when he bet?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah. this because 50 years ago it was actually worth your while as a shop keeper to make them happy, because they were diligent hard working sorts of people.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla tell them that you've brought the matter to my attention, and i said that if i hear about this again i will not pay on that bet until august 3rd no matter what happens. then ask him if he wants to bring the matter to my attention again.
mircea_popescu: actually no, let's fix the incentive structure.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: betcha this fellow is american. over here, they'll bring a mostly empty bottle of vodka to the shop, say 'i didn't like it', get money back.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla eh tell them to get bent.
kakobrekla: the conclusion, bitbet is delaying payments so they earn the big interest sitting on huge (over 3btc) balance
punkman: chetty, you argue with the dealer, you get thrown out of the casino. You argue with bitbet, you get entertaining emails.
chetty: you know I wonder if these people that go on about various online bets argue with dealers at the blackjack table?
kakobrekla: look im just the support keeping the customers busy while bets are getting resolved dont look at me!
Namworld: Ah yes, there's the FAQ answer. Doesn't specify a definite time limit, but it does mention it.
ThickAsThieves: i imagine a clearer answer could be, it will resolve when the results of the open FOIA requests are responded to
Namworld: So what's the issue? Delay is like in FAQ like first question? I think I recall reading it once. Pretty sure there was mention for unresolvable bets somewhere in there.
kakobrekla: wait theres more
bitcoinpete: ok, off to the golf course
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gribble: The operation succeeded.
jurov: mike_c ^^ quite a diference from the report
punkman: the game's going faster than usual eh
BingoBoingo: punkman: Early on, now it seems simply that life is the biggest hazard to itself
punkman: BingoBoingo: I see the bombing paid off
BingoBoingo: moiety: Yeah I saw the Bill gates thing. Maybe soon I'll be able to do the feigning as you requested, but... drunk
moiety: did you see bill gates play the current world grand master? lost in under two minutes i think
moiety: dude, how do you leap across the board like that -_-
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.02 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 12504.27 GH/s
BingoBoingo: Well, as long as they have a spot to land on
moiety: can they jump over anything?
BingoBoingo: Horses are really dangerous early in the game because they can jump over the junk clogging things up
moiety: you always move your horse dudes pretty early. i must think about them more
moiety: my strategy so far as to: make a gap and then destroy all i can with the queen. sometimes this works sometimes it really doesnt
BingoBoingo: Well, you've to to worry about the center of the board a bit more. Rooks are fun when you get them out, but... Early in the game they really dun have anywhere to go
moiety: ya.. i'm not quite at the stage of thinking ahead to what you will do next. i don't quite see how to protect that back bit without moving folk out
BingoBoingo: moiety: Well, you kept more bits, but... You kind forgot to protect the important one.
BingoBoingo: just sort do what they do
gribble: The operation succeeded.
penguirker: New blog post: http://thewhet.net/2014/line-betting-on-bitbet-june-2014/
assbot: War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!
BingoBoingo: Well, life is far more precarious than it was this point last round in the other game https://atc.waroflife.com/gow/11/
moiety: ya, moseying across the board doesnt cut it any more
moiety: i did.... but i think it wasn't the best move to make... but im struggling cus, well, you know, you have ALL THE REST!
moiety: ok i did something, no idea what but it was the only thing i could move
mircea_popescu: almost done with mpif not even halfway there.
mircea_popescu: lol brits and their eh
BingoBoingo: moiety: In that case you need to lose more bits this game so you protect them more ferverently next
mircea_popescu: moiety they all look kinda natural no ?
moiety: "which of these chicks has a natural tan?!"
mircea_popescu: i think they have a complex.
benkay: where is the search engine i type in "thing i want".pdf and it gives it to me?
BingoBoingo: moiety: Quite a few... You know sometimes you can move them out of the way (you can also flip the board to see what I see)
BingoBoingo: moiety: After this game Imma get drunker and you're going to need to show aggression in the next game
BingoBoingo: There you go. You're scottish. You dun have to be English sort of polite
BingoBoingo: And another
moiety: o no im just being dumb, think thats me in the game now
BingoBoingo: Hmmm. moiety Maybe start another game and invire me this time? Maybe this site is jsut retarded
moiety: yeah i went to the link you gave
BingoBoingo: moiety: Are we on the same site?
BingoBoingo: K, are we using the website?
moiety: ah fuck.... k .... be kind then
moiety: level of drunk of the BingoBoingo i mean
moiety: yaya k so whats the level of drunk 0-10?
BingoBoingo mixes another drink
moiety: BingoBoingo: has there been any other news... i see nothing other than the usual he said, she said derpiness
moiety: no no not a bad thing at all. means they havent delievered the bad news to the otherws yet :D
BingoBoingo: The prolly wanted a bigger one seeing how little traction that sort of proposition gets on its own
mike_c: ouch, it's a blood bath on the life side
assbot: War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!
BingoBoingo: Watch the difficulty drop mid month, because It's been too long since I made a statement
mircea_popescu: ;;rate dooglus 3 Truly a pillar of the community.
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BingoBoingo: Also on the blog
mircea_popescu: lot of good stuff in the logs GunPlay
BingoBoingo: GunPlay: The occasional spelling or grammar slip is fine. I'm drunk here occasionally.
GunPlay: that a lot of you guys are driving Bitcoin development in some way, whether directly or through community
GunPlay: sorry for the misspellings, meant to say interested
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.02 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 14243.64 GH/s
mircea_popescu: there, i've thrown out a very unfortunate young lady.
BingoBoingo: GunPlay: That doesn't hurt, but also throwing things out in the channel can be productive
asciilifeform: 'стукач' ~= 'one who knocks' (implication, on the 'right door')
asciilifeform: benkay: just as a 'samurai' isn't quite the same animal as european 'knight,' a soviet стукач isn't entirely the same species as a new york 'stoolie' - etc.
benkay: asciilifeform: what's a good name for the statal organizations who encourage citizens to report each other for 'infractions'?
mircea_popescu: GunPlay wait, you're the guy mthreat mentioned ?
asciilifeform: what are these people, retarded << not exactly. this crud is at least as old as 'poenitentiam agite.'
mircea_popescu: nono the jargon file