mircea_popescu: everyone wanting to whisper into the ear of State about their many and varied shortcomings.
BingoBoingo: Thanks to risperidone, the pro-lactation anti-psychotic drug men wishing to break into traditionally feminine fields can now audition for the job of "wet nurse"
asciilifeform: picture a strike at a meat processing plant. suddenly the cattle can talk - and decide to 'join' the strikers.
BingoBoingo: Of course, person willing to pay $10k/hr makes their own holes
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i understand, it's a peculiarly sad 'chinese copy' of the usual 'victimhood olympics.'
mircea_popescu: according to them, or more trinquesque "all items with three holes on them are powerplugs" sorta strawman ?
jborkl: Well the way I am building it I think will work out that way. I will find out sometime tomorrow I guess
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well it's also morally impoverished men wishing they can be what they imagine western feminism is
mircea_popescu: so is this mra thing more than people being pissed off at the way us family court works re allocating children in a divorce ?
BingoBoingo: Yeah, Imma playing with the blockchain atm (Really nice size for testing database operations speeds) It gets bigger
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Yeast begin dying around 15 proof. Alcohol is a choice antimicrobial agent. To obtain higher proofs you must distill the mash to make poteen, white lightning... brandy, or single malt scotch. << Freezing works too though it tends to leave fusile alcohols
asciilifeform: 'The only acting professional in the cast is Radmila Shchegoleva, who plays Landau's wife; before shooting began, she spent a full year working at a chocolate factory and a hospital, a regimen devised by Khrzhanovsky to beat the actress out of her.'
asciilifeform: 'Landau significantly advanced quantum mechanics with his theories of diamagnetism, superfluidity, and superconductivity. He also tapped epic amounts of ass.'
asciilifeform: Pravda," as in "Pravda it.") The fine system has also fostered a robust culture of snitching. "In a totalitarian regime, mechanisms of suppression trigger mechanisms of betrayal," the director explains. "I am very interested in that."'
asciilifeform: 'The fine system is the Institute's latest innovation. Khrzhanovsky decreed it a few months ago, fed up with staffers smuggling cell phones and talking about Facebook. Other finable offenses include tardiness, which costs a whole day's pay, and failure to renew the fake Institute pass. The program has been a hit. Not only has morale improved, a whole new euphemistic vocabulary has sprouted up. ("Google" is now "
jborkl: That is bumming me out that rainbow parties are in there. I kept hoping I would be invited to be on the liptstick reciving side
mircea_popescu: is the film worth it ?
assbot: On the Movie Set of Director Ilya Khrzhanovsky's Dau
mircea_popescu: or maybe the better q should be, how do you keep your sanitee.
mircea_popescu: benkay incidentally, where do you find them ?
mircea_popescu: jborkl is this the voice of experience ?
BingoBoingo: Eh, snuff films are prolly the most IRL common of those listed things.
mircea_popescu: don't tell people here you're php ing they'll be mean.
jborkl: I have been non stop either work or building php back end
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mircea_popescu: well, you're at least doing better than the previous derp who stumbled in here, so who knows. maybe this time it works out.
mircea_popescu: trinque i toldja the "nouns-only" filter doesn't work. it's not my fault it don't work. i didn't say "bitchez be crazy", and you're not at liberty to identify any things with three holes and a nubbin.
mircea_popescu: if i tell you how the internal combustion engine works and i include a mention of gasoline being combustible, you're going to say that hydrogen also burns ?
mircea_popescu: my argument doesn't hinge on the mental health of anyone else outside the identified group.
trinque: although if you want to find a reason, taking a look at the patriarchial relationships between men would be a good place to start
trinque: I think most modern humans are not mentally healthy, and that the distinction has nothing to do with gender
trinque: that's 15 year old boy level discourse right there
mircea_popescu: you may find that the noun-only filter doesn't work equally well in all environments.
mircea_popescu: ok, so you telling me that if hockey was offensive to every woman you knew, like on the level of infant snuff videos offensive, you'd still watch it ?
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It is generally it is the less retarded one, but still awfully retarded
mircea_popescu: your proposal goes against the very point of hockey, which is ad revenue.
mircea_popescu: women are mentally ill, and will not allow them watch it if it's bloody.
mircea_popescu: hockey thrives on us and canada advertising. that advertising sells to males. males are pussies, and will only watc h the sport if the woman in charge of them allows it.
mike_c: mircea_popescu: yes.. part of the "gawker media group". bingo is addicted. probably worse for his liver than drinking.
mircea_popescu: trinque you dont grok the economics involved.
trinque: imagine a hockey game where the players are all jacked on amphetamines
BingoBoingo: That was one of the better small pots. Seems there was no reason to put any money on "No" though
mircea_popescu: anyway, by not simplifying the fractions i think we'll be doing a lot to ease brits into sanity.
mircea_popescu: i don't think an argument can be had there.
mike_c: given that I have been more exposed to american odds than anything else, I don't think I am biased when I say decimal odds are by far the best method.
mircea_popescu: pretty fucktarded, the moneyline system
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell kakobrekla except if it's over 2, then it's (decimal-1)/100, so 2.41177082 BTC (~141/100 ; +141.17)
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mike_c: who the hell can understand american odds
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell kakobrekla hey let's improve the odds calculator for bitbet. Calculator: placing a winning BTC bet on:Yes pays: 1.46984385 BTC No pays: 2.41177082 BTC should read : Yes pays: 1.46984385 BTC (~47/100) No pays: 2.41177082 BTC (~141/100). it's fucktarded, but some people are used to it.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck asked fiat bankers what they think on any topic ? what's next, asking the primitive tribes in africa about interspatial flight ?
mircea_popescu: i wonder how long till the hos figure out the prize for bitching is beating, and they really wanna line up in here ready to suck us off.
kyuupichan: I'm well up on diff bets. Got utterly fucked on the Gox 1st March bet tho.
kyuupichan: Every 60 blocks, apart from the first one, since the diff increase has been slower than 10hrs. Some hashpower is gonna have to appear soon to make it up and stop a fall.
punkman: the answer is fuck facebook
jurov: is there some easy to use plugin?
punkman: jurov, but we can do it in the browser!!!111!
jurov: yeah that won't even help if they chat via fb website
trinque: so if some white knight wanted to get them to encrypt their chats he'd have to do so from within
trinque: mircea_popescu: my thought is that the plebs use facebook and aren't likely to switch
benkay: 'cause the fuckers seal, you see
benkay: that said, they're not classy at all, and the only performance footwear i actually require are carbon-fiber bike shoes.
benkay: well tchyeah the open ones would be
benkay: who knows if their fancy variants are as well, or if they've solved the 'breathing' problem.
mircea_popescu: scratch that then
punkman: they have some good fabrics
benkay: another bullshit thing about thevibrams is that they're essentially a heat-sealed plastic bag for your feet.
punkman: the fivefingers?
mircea_popescu: punkman they seem like perhaps a credible variant in between making the girls go barefoot everwhere and odd duality.
benkay: pff that's what the ass-kickin shoes are for
punkman: http://www.vivobarefoot.com/eu/mens <- these guys have thin soles and you don't have to look like a clown
punkman: I had a pair of those, they were very comfortable indeed
mircea_popescu: i thought they're supposed to be like for running.
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mircea_popescu: o they are ?
benkay: you should see the nerds all bedecked
mircea_popescu: http://www.vibramfivefingers.com/products/Five-Fingers-Bikila-EVO-Womens.htm << omg the shoesock lives!
davout: basically the idea behind eurofranc is that bitcoin is a scam
mircea_popescu: i desire the ability to rescind highschool diplomas via gribble.
mircea_popescu: this has got to be the world's most fucktarded graphic.
mircea_popescu: they've been derping in bars for a year now
mircea_popescu: these fucktards. THAT is what i wanna hear first ?
assbot: The Foundation
benkay: oh yeah, subject of the Bull Run, water *sucks* in Argentina.
benkay: poopin in the bull run
benkay: celebrating american independence day in true cascadian fashion by going up to the forest with the babe and the dog
benkay: done with client work for the weekend wooooooooooo
mircea_popescu: there are hwoever no known cases of abducted retarded artsy chicks that spend the next decade whoring.
mircea_popescu: there are also numerous cases of ex drug lords turned into reddit feminists by being held captive in a san francisco commune for two weeks.
trinque: it is their natural enemy
asciilifeform: this - the google bus smashers again?
mircea_popescu: "When Million Fishes started at the corner of 23rd and Bryant in 2003, the gallery windows were boarded shut and drugs were sold on the street outside. When the gallery became a live space, it made the street less attractive for drug dealing, but it also helped usher in the wave of gentrification that has now overtaken us."
mircea_popescu: i think immeasurable is the right word.
mircea_popescu: "Wed like to thank our wonderful community of nearly 10 years for helping us co-create a space that showcased the immeasurable talent, passion, and diversity of San Franciscos artists, activists, makers, thinkers, and dreamers. We hope that this vision of shared responsibility and radical inclusion extends beyond the life of the organization."
BingoBoingo can't wait till startups concern themselves with Burn rate and move to the Mojave in tents
mircea_popescu: doesn't mean the sun has lost its shine
trinque: words have lost their meaning
mircea_popescu: seems they did.
mircea_popescu: they want to pay... 50 cents a square foot ?!
mircea_popescu: people are missing out on perhaps the only good advertising deal in bitcoin, what can i say.
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/988/argentina-beats-belgium/ << someone dump this on reddit btw ? im kinda fond of the description
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo match made in heaven huh ? i saw this film cca 1940, back when cagney was the fronteer ruffian and whoever the fuck was the boston damsel
punkman: oh there's a comment, never mind
mircea_popescu: the author sounds like a butthurt artsy chick upset that money exists.
BingoBoingo: "they ultimately signed a five-year lease for $31,667 a month in rent (plus $564 in fees)more than six times the amount the arts collective had been previously paying." When you get taken that badly by a LANDLORD in a negotiation, maybe business isn't the right line of work for you. Disgraceful.
BingoBoingo: From the comments >>
mircea_popescu: Bloodhound had everything going for it. TechCrunch once hailed the tradeshow app as "genius" and Peter Thiel lead a $3 million investment round in the "blowing up" company.
mircea_popescu: "Bitcoin is not the unit of account, as you are not held accountable for that unit by anyone."
mircea_popescu: without being stuck sending bw to EVERYONE all the time
mircea_popescu: then again you can prolly optimise the distribution a little, and preserve the "no meta" value of the original broadcast design
asciilifeform: saturation is the only real pill against traffic analysis.
mircea_popescu: whether you send text or it just pads with noise... no difference. it sends 1kbps
mircea_popescu: that constantly sends the same debit to everyone.
asciilifeform: benkay: it is a very simple design based on johnson noise. -- plus, the entire design will be published in excruciating detail.
trinque: the hard part would be getting enough people to use it for it to matter
mircea_popescu: davout there's an ambiguity between "mods" here. BitBet Mod in red on the site is merely the official position of bitbet.
benkay: <trinque> benkay: somebody should write something that saturates idle connections with encrypted dummy data // any bored programmers want to irritate the NSA? trinque's full of good ideas today
artifexd: Hmmm... another crash.
davout: mircea_popescu: "Irrespective of what the close date says, bets made after half time will be refunded." <<< not to nitpick, but now mods can redefine bets? :D
mircea_popescu: artifexd well i just noticed the france bet went from 2ish to 7ish on one side
mircea_popescu: davout aditional time is like, up i nthe air :D
davout: so technically, before the match is ended i can bet at anytime
assbot: Rolling Coal: Conservatives who show their annoyance with liberals, Obama, and the EPA by blowing black smoke from their trucks.
BingoBoingo: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2014/07/rolling_coal_conservatives_who_show_their_annoyance_with_liberals_obama.html
benkay: in other news, i've learned that having the hairline trimmed into symmetry is a horrible idea.
davout: mircea_popescu: according to bitbet rules and closing dates i can cancel my bet on http://bitbet.us/bet/987/krautzes-send-france-home/ until the last minute of the match right?
jborkl: 90000 blocks through the rebuilt blockchain and I am at 25MB
mircea_popescu: artifexd somehow []bot is missing out on all the bitbet excitement lol
mircea_popescu: wow shit look at that, someone covered the krautz bet.
davout: as a sidenote, the whole "service is shitty, but it's fast!" has been a thing in france for the last 20 years
assbot: The reason you can’t have nice numbers and other considerations. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
BingoBoingo: benkay: http://trilema.com/2013/the-reason-you-cant-have-nice-numbers-and-other-considerations/ ???
davout: i'm starting to suspect that this france vs germany bet is going to get bigger than the berkshire one
mircea_popescu: the only thing france wins is buttruining on pikes marathon
mike_c: kako can turn off the logger
kyuupichan: mike_c: Not sure I remember most of it. I'd rather it remained private though.
benkay: asciilifeform, mircea_popescu: where's the post detailing cardano rng construction?
davout: mircea_popescu: BUT WHAT IF THERE'S ANOTHER MATCH 58 FR vs DE IN THE WC OF SOME UNRELATED SPORT ??
kyuupichan: The explanatory text is clearly "by". "On or before".
kyuupichan: mircea_popescu: But it's already happened no? Other bets are resolved early if they happen.
chetty: Many people would rather inflict pain on themselves than spend 15 minutes in a room with nothing to do but think
kyuupichan: mircea_popescu: Is the Bastille bet considered controversial? Or mods just got bored of resolving bets y/day?
mircea_popescu: they failed to understand it in practice, but this is because people are often lazy, and that's exactly how things like bitcoin can get killed in 2010.
davout: i mean it makes no sense to try and decide whether secrecy is a better model than non-secrecy
mircea_popescu: what's sort mean and who's them.
davout: ok, so basically makes no sense to sort them
mircea_popescu: suppose there's an apple tree and a potato. now, you ask me how is a pomme better than a pomme du terre. nfi man, i just know they're opposite.
davout: mircea_popescu: so the advantage of secrecy is undecided
Apocalyptic: kinda reminds me of the venetian rulers
mike_c: rota did not need to decide things for the good of rota. bitbet has a vested interest in making good decisions.
davout: but there's also the "make a sovereign decision about the resolution conditions uncertainty that came to light after acceptation but before resoltuion"
mircea_popescu: davout anon mods deliberating in secret. exact opposite of the "citizenship judge" rota model
davout: because basically, there's the "evaluate outcome according to environment and bet specs" part of bitbet
davout: mircea_popescu: yeah well, i haven't ordered the ba logs paperback yet :-)
mircea_popescu: i think i even said as much in the logs, months ago
davout: i think that in essence, bitbet and the rota have a lot in common
mircea_popescu: the plumber quitting his plumbing has zero impact. the plumbing company wil still do the plumbing.
davout: no, that would translate to quit being a plumber, not refuse to serve a particular client because you don't have the correct tools or qualifications
Mats_cd03: a jury that can nullify judgments then
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 kinda what the mods are.
davout: yes, the guy who does the plumbing can perfectly throw his hands in the air, refund you, and tell you that in fact he doesn't do lead pipes
mircea_popescu: random fuckwit that can't afford a 400 dollar swimsuit isn't free to "change the way society regards women"
mircea_popescu: army captain ordered to hold a position isn't allowed to change the regimental deployment
mircea_popescu: the guy you hire to do your plumbing isn't allowed to recommend you buy a different house
mircea_popescu: but you understand the general principle of limited review ? such that a judge isn't at liberty to vacate the law for instance.
davout: fair enough :-) i'm thinking that "not his place to realise such a thing." is side-stepping the issue, and also not
Naphex: from their PoV anyone who gives a shit about privacy will be an extremist
mircea_popescu: that's ok, i consider nsa employees child molesters. they're going to jail.
mircea_popescu: there's no way out of history. what's done is done.
davout: mircea_popescu: well, what if he genuinely realizes it wasn't correct to assume he'd ever be able to measure salinity? whether he has the certainty that salinity > 0 being irrelevant given the bet conditions
mircea_popescu: should he discover salinity doesn't exist, then it gets cancelled.
mircea_popescu: that's not a realisation the mod can ever reach.
jborkl: building the database, the block chain will be searchable by txid, txcount by block, address, amount and UNIX
davout: what if the bet mod realizes he has no way to measure salinity N
mircea_popescu: but if they don't agree if it's salty or sweet, the bet as to which is is ain't getting cancelled.
mircea_popescu: if you got a group saying "the sea is blue" and another "the sky is azure" this isn't a legitimate dispute. they're not talking of the same thing.
davout: a dispute about the auction price being >x or <x ?
mircea_popescu: that as long as there's a dispute, a bet doesn't get cancelled.
davout: the guy that was requesting support ?
mircea_popescu: davout sure. but how does that help the arguer's position ?
davout: i think my broader point is that since you don't know what you don't know, it makes sense to define a way to clarify propositions along the way, lest you end up with some rota v2
pankkake: another bitcoin-qt segfault. gotta learn to not click on it too soon
pankkake: I think davout refers to another bet
mike_c: what clarity is missing? when the bet will resolve? obviously it will resolve when the price is known. if it becomes clear the price will never be known, BB mods will do something appropriate.
davout: but then there's also the question of "where does the lack of clarity stop, and the guy's expectations start"
davout: if you argue that the resolution of bitbets can afford lack of clarity by comparing it to the way the woman of your example lacks clarity you should go all the way
Mats_cd03: benkay: everyone i know with the coiled rattlesnake and/or 'don't tread on me' is ex mil
davout: mircea_popescu: "pankkake but whatever he thought then, right ? i mean suppose a girl invites him over and he THINKS it's for to fuck." <<< if you reason like this, then you should rename it to bitchbet
davout: i hear they send winners spider drawings instead of money
davout: their support sucks
davout: the internet sez you're a cutie!
mircea_popescu: davout bet you the krautzes send france home ?
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mircea_popescu: davout i hear nigeria beat you froggers in the wc
mircea_popescu: mostly cause of the club ambiguity
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mircea_popescu: more generally i suppose it being springish again, it's time to revisit last year for the new crop of noobs :
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mircea_popescu: lmao that fuckwit seriously has the gall to argue4 that stealing people's bitcoins over time is okay ?
mircea_popescu: You mean the same accounting that is used by every single financial regulatory agency in the world?
mircea_popescu: so "the community" of bagholders posing as bitcoin people is getting vocal ?
mircea_popescu: "We American women think of the swarthy type as a dark-skinned (not black), exotic, intense type of man."
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller is black ?!
benkay: hey thestringpuller lets get you inked
mircea_popescu: so get a black guy and get the tattoo on him.
benkay: probably just the snake.
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asciilifeform: from the loltron: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-03/expropriation-back-christine-lagarde-most-dangerous-woman-world
ThickAsThieves: it's where the airport is
ThickAsThieves: did they ever find that Malaysian plane?
mircea_popescu: oh, ocean cops ? i hear bad things about their sirens.
mircea_popescu: different phone numbers have different amounts in them
Dalrymple: I met one person who would look for gullibles and offer to loan them some equipment and oversee their grow, it meant he'd get a cut and it wouldn't take place on his property, also he knew the connects to sell it in bulk
Dalrymple: It's not something I'd ever want to do, and the people who do it often get violently extorted if they aren't caught by the police
kakobrekla: and they dont give fuck for losing a few kw
Dalrymple: In the UK a lot of people are caught due to stealing power