mircea_popescu: but yeah, zero traffic there huh
ThickAsThieves: he's the OT guy
ThickAsThieves: isnt it the mastercoin guy or one of those guys who's a former pickup artist?
ThickAsThieves: maybe andreas is available for evangelist consulting, or there's always the mastercoin guy
mircea_popescu: i really can't believe i got exaclty 1 respondent to the tits post.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the eu finds itself in exactly the same position the us finds itself, except a little more clueless, a little more baselessly vanitous and a little later to the party.
kyuupichan: "the creation of scheme governing authorities' accountable for the integrity of a particular virtual currency scheme and its key components, including its protocol and transaction ledger."
kyuupichan: What, the banks?
kyuupichan: "and the financial viability of some market participants remains uncertain"
chetty: <kyuupichan> "should not buy, hold or sell them" Um, impossible to fulfil if already holding....// nthey could destroy,lose the keys
kyuupichan: EBA apparently doesn't realize BTC has its own regulatory regime and what they think is irrelevant
kyuupichan: "should not buy, hold or sell them" Um, impossible to fulfil if already holding....
ThickAsThieves: after put thru the Bloomberg filter: EU Banks Must Shun Bitcoin Until Rules in Place, EBA Says
assbot: EBA proposes potential regulatory regime for virtual currencies, but also advises that financial institutions should not buy, hold or sell them whilst no such regime is in place - View press release - European Banking Authority
ThickAsThieves: http://www.eba.europa.eu/-/eba-proposes-potential-regulatory-regime-for-virtual-currencies-but-also-advises-that-financial-institutions-should-not-buy-hold-or-sell-them-whilst-n
assbot: Log In - The New York Times
mircea_popescu: AHAHAHAHAhahahahaha ok that's the funniest thing i read all week.
mircea_popescu: "Eventually all the old phones will be shut down and we can switch entirely to the new system."
mircea_popescu: guy a tells girl she has a fat ass, she goes on a diet and gets a gym pass. guys b through z tell girl she has a fat ass, she buys femfandom today and writes angry blogposts about the sexist guys b through z.
mircea_popescu: or maybe from having been told this by the wrong people.
fluffypony: which comes from years of not being told that they're not wrong, but their idea is fucking awful
mircea_popescu: anyway, a good idea in there (specifically, that complacency kills) buried under so much bad phrasing (like the we above) and outright ignorant idiocy (like the "logic works" debate) that i'd just send the author back to 7th grade with a very welted butt
davout: was there already a service for corporations designed to facilitate wage payment in BTC?
mircea_popescu: there probably ~should~ be a media empire,
fluffypony: not really interested enough in celebrities to read The Superficial
mircea_popescu: linked twitter acct, "The best publisher of things ever in the history of the Universe.", abandoned since last year.
mircea_popescu: "If you'd like to advertise on one of our sites you can check out our advertising info." which they helpfuly omit to include, either as a link or anywhere on the page.
mircea_popescu: i guess they're not allowed to say meth ?
mircea_popescu: i'll prolly visit just to piss on the general public.
fluffypony: well there was that study that found that hirsute males are more intelligent
mircea_popescu: how do they know how hooker legs look anyway ?
pankkake: Men are also allowed to receive extra credit, as long as they shave their bodies from the neck down.
assbot: Lindsay Lohan’s Legs Look Like This Because of Biking, You Guys, She Was Biking - The Superficial - Because You're Ugly
fluffypony: http://www.thesuperficial.com/lindsay-lohan-legs-scratched-bruised-like-that-of-a-hooker-07-2014
mircea_popescu: soooo... are they getting sued ?
mircea_popescu: are they getting sued ?
assbot: University offers female students extra credit for not shaving their armpits
mircea_popescu: woman basically copy/pasted three different things together.
fluffypony: the only media group I particularly like atm is Anticlown
mircea_popescu: "Journalism is a public good, essential to the health of democracy and the growth of society." "I was awarded a partial scholarship but still incurred over $30,000 in debt that will likely follow me far into the future."
mircea_popescu: the names are picked with an eye to livresqueness.
mircea_popescu: "Gawker staff writer Hamilton Nolan loves to rant. I can't say I ever particularly noticed Nolan, or that his opinionated posts stand out from the rest of the sensationalized content Gawker churns out each day"
mircea_popescu: so the two 17yo blondies vying for homecoming queen are different girls ?
fluffypony: that the adults ignore
mircea_popescu: in what sense are they different
assbot: Gawker Must Not Know What Journalism Is: A Different Take on the Role of J-schools | Gabrielle Canon
fluffypony: they have fun shit like this:
pankkake: but part of the same conspiracy!
fluffypony: I mean they're physically different companies
mircea_popescu: don't tell me they're burning the venture capital of rival, competing venture firms.
mircea_popescu: wait they';re different ?
fluffypony: their "empire" has become worse than HuffPo
mircea_popescu: shit. next words out of my mouth were "do they have a car one"
mircea_popescu: anyway, they got everything don't they ? gawker is basically hot topic of internet crapola. jezbel aka let's try and commercialise feminism,
fluffypony: and only because a friend of mine, Seagram Pearce, often has his photos on there
fluffypony: the only gawker site I still occasionally browse is Jalopnik
mircea_popescu: dude just how much crap can these people put out ?
BingoBoingo: I'm sleep. Everyone who keeps trying to unkill my beautiful death with their life bombs can eat it, as they continue to hurt their cause.
pankkake: fluffypony: poopsenders are the number one reason I hide my identity :p
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BingoBoingo: ;;google bubbling "pissing in their own mouth"
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bubbling | Bubbling. A photo editing technique which uses clever positioning of transparent circles in an opaque color layer to trick the mind into thinking a person in a ...
assbot: HOLY F**** I just got the details of 50 bitcoiners in CY DANNY BREWSTER INCLUDE
mircea_popescu: it's pretty much the exact equivalent. conclure may mean a cunt or a life policy.
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Closing | Nov 14, 2012 ... Closing. The act of "doing the deed". To close is the have sexual intercourse with someone. Particularly used in regards to a girl who is hard to ...
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=close | to knock boots with a member of the oposite sex, as in close the deal.
davout: does "close" convey the same sexual meaning?
mircea_popescu: when questioned in the senate a week later, he claimed that he went to bruxelles to do some shopping.
mircea_popescu: when it became clear that he won't be allowed inside the building, he left.
mircea_popescu: example : romania is, sorta like france, a presidentialish republic. it's quite clear that the president does foreign affairs. at some point in a conflict with the president, this guy showed up at a eu summit.
mircea_popescu: this guy is probably the most amusing pietilla in all of yurp.
davout: don't eat this candy bar, resist the urge to waste time arguing with dotcoin, same skill really :)
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
davout: ;;later tell kakobrekla "hide bots" in the logs doesn't make atcbot go away
davout: the drummer is amazing
BingoBoingo: davout: My dog is safely in the ghetto where he belongs
BingoBoingo: Krauts are going to put on Belgium like a condom and take your team down like they did... well... you know
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: it is indeed if... the courts don't seem to want your bet to come true
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo still, it's satisfying to see the guy reduced to peddling bitcents.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: Some one may have lulz arriving in their inbox...
mircea_popescu: lmao scammer be scammer to the end.
BingoBoingo: Last two youtube links dedicated to the mystery lifebomer unkilling all of my beautiful death
assbot: Johnny Cash-The_Man_Comes_Around - YouTube
BingoBoingo: I mean the Amerigo's colonies produce some shit white people, but Africa...
BingoBoingo: EC2 might be the only thing worse than Nigbuntu
fluffypony: but the guys that invented EC2 are cool
BingoBoingo: Ugh, white africans are the worst
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: "The Church of Scientology, an outgrowth of L. Ron Hubbard's dianetics cult of the Fifties, became one of the most controversial of American religious cults. When, in 1977, Federal agents raided the cult's offices because, among other things, the cult had infiltrated Federal agencies and stolen Government documents related to investigations of the cult, public reaction was amusement as much as anything else."
mircea_popescu: the antipopper
mircea_popescu: o look at that, before global warming they had "drowsing works". who knew.
mircea_popescu: , and find out why it is so, because it works. Those scientists who are personally psychologically so oriented that they simply can't accept that notion will be simply brushed aside, and men who can and will see what's happening on their own campuses, and will sincerely try to understand this new order of phenomenon will be installed.
mircea_popescu: For the first time in human history, there now exists a situation in which the disciplined thinking techniques, and precision-observing techniques of modern science will be applied in a positive sense to the problem of a subjective phenomenon. "Positive" in that the research men will be commanded, ordered, and damn well required to stop using their talents to prove it isn't so, because their theories hold it impossible
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> being as the local stuffed uniforms are the first to 'go free agent' in any imperial collapse, this is sorta basic. << quite
BingoBoingo: I assume they can use pretty much Windows or android machine as the equivalent of a tor node anyways
assbot: Scholar says transcript of the Declaration of Independence has an error.
BingoBoingo: OMG revisionism!!! http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/07/03/scholar_says_transcript_of_the_declaration_of_independence_has_an_error.html
gribble: Are We There Yet? (2005) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0368578/>; Are We There Yet? (TV Series 2010– ) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1544603/>; Are We There Yet? (TV series) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Are_We_There_Yet%3F_(TV_series)>
BingoBoingo: ;;google are we there yet
BingoBoingo: Oh he's the original rebellious early 90's rapper to film early 00's family comedies
BingoBoingo: laugh now - cry later << This is the title of a fairly recent Ice Cube album if I'm not mistaken
asciilifeform: laugh now - cry later. things that sail off the 'parody horizon' cliff tend to keep going. until they hit ground.
BingoBoingo: Except for the blind spotters
asciilifeform: can't wait for the mandatory wheelchair ramps on heli-gunships
asciilifeform: gotta accommodate the legless firemen.
BingoBoingo: "The sidewalk leading to the front main entrance has a running slope of 6.2 percent, rather than the maximum of 5 percent." << lolz
asciilifeform: "people have problems" which seem to reinforce agency heirarchy << interesting examples abound. consider the u.s. grunts who were disciplined for wearing privately purchased ballistic armour in iraq.
gribble: Wrongful death lawsuit filed in Molly Young case - KFVS: <http://www.kfvs12.com/story/25915227/wrongful-death-lawsuit-filed-in-molly-young-case>; Molly Young's father files wrongful death lawsuit against Minton ...: <http://thesouthern.com/news/local/communities/carbondale/molly-young-s-father-files-wrongful-death-lawsuit-against-minton/article_02c1e7ea-8689-5361-b62a- (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: Every now and then "people have problems" which seem to reinforce agency heirarchy
asciilifeform: being as the local stuffed uniforms are the first to 'go free agent' in any imperial collapse, this is sorta basic.
asciilifeform: just as they don't get aircraft carriers
asciilifeform: Encryption Foiled the Cops << example of hierarchy of power in action. the local doughnut eaters don't get access to the manufacturer backdoor. unless it suits the crown for one reason or another.
BingoBoingo: Cleansing papers maybe one binder has survived the purges.
BingoBoingo: EBSCO, JSTOR, and ProjectMuse at the time were the prefered sources for things to fill the binders.
BingoBoingo: With my limited exposure to computing before college (Mac OS 6&7, Dos 3.3, Windows 3.1) The first year or so I thought print to Tiff was a neat workaround....
asciilifeform: generally found in places where no one counts the money, and everyone pisses on copyrasty laws - e.g. military labs.
asciilifeform: they used to be fairly expensive
asciilifeform: (a 'book scanner' has a v-shaped cavity, rather than flat glass)
assbot: Rising Use of Encryption Foiled the Cops a Record 9 Times in 2013 | Threat Level | WIRED
BingoBoingo: http://www.wired.com/2014/07/rising-use-of-encryption-foiled-the-cops-a-record-9-times-in-2013/
BingoBoingo: Well, not xerox'd the copy machines charged. The printers didn't so... sheetfed scanner to giant tiff, portable hdd to computer lab
BingoBoingo: Oh, the things I xerox'd as an undergrad.
asciilifeform: i still have the xeroxes. epic garbage.
asciilifeform: (evidently when these people had staff 'sovietologists' they dutifully preserved everything. even this used toilet paper.)
asciilifeform: incidentally, (as school project!) i once went to the u.s. national library of medicine and had them dig up for me ancient, yellow copies of lysenko's complete works. and read them.
asciilifeform: ^ with the planar symmetry groups.
BingoBoingo: Maybe vexual in ninjaspamzor may be aimed at each other some day
asciilifeform: ^ prof. dutch on the subject
assbot: When the Cranks Rule
asciilifeform: referring here to the appearance of powerful cranks
BingoBoingo: In the immunodefficient fungi are often a greater threat than bacteria
asciilifeform: to continue the 'medical' theme - it's rather like an immunodeficient collapse of organism
asciilifeform: more often you get lysenko, lepeshinskaya (exercise for the reader: who was she? why) and a thousand similar creatures
asciilifeform: sometimes you get clever folks who finally get to 'do their thing'
asciilifeform: you get figures like mengele (or a considerably more destructive, though lesser known, trofim lysenko) when barriers around some field are demolished en masse and field is thrown to the mercy of cranks (say, by revolution)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> many other cases of severely brainless are also created artificially - by rescuing 'super' premature infants, for example (at tremendous cost to the taxpayer, even before they enter the welfare system) << Similar area, Ultra Geriatrics. How long can a nonegenarian fight a fungal UTI withou amphoterrible B? This happens prolly hundereds to thousands of times a year. If only people collated results.
asciilifeform: but of btc-themed derpitude as a field, no ?
mircea_popescu: s not go by the posters.
mircea_popescu: the dood was too busy doing fucktarded shit like random foreign body implants
asciilifeform: they usually pinch their nose in an obligatory gesture of kowtow to taboo, but they cite.
mircea_popescu: moon landing also tremendous cost to the taxpayer.
asciilifeform: research is when there is something useful to be learned
asciilifeform: many other cases of severely brainless are also created artificially - by rescuing 'super' premature infants, for example (at tremendous cost to the taxpayer, even before they enter the welfare system)
mircea_popescu: cazalla hopefully including the right to 4.0 gpa ?
assbot: The Art of No Compromises - YouTube
cazalla: there are downie groups calling for downie rights too
asciilifeform: i like to refer to these folks as 'elphialtes's army'
asciilifeform: this kind of thing, in other variants, is pretty big in usa. for instance, pretty much nobody births a down's syndrome case any more other than deliberately.
mircea_popescu: did they win ?
asciilifeform: i vaguely recall a documented case where deaf women sued for the right to 'in vitro' select deaf samples from a set of foeti
asciilifeform: 'oh noez they're holocausting us by curing deafness'
gribble: The Cochlear Implant Controversy - Daily Kos: <http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/11/17/1256259/-The-Cochlear-Implant-Controversy>; Cochlear implants change deaf culture as importance of American ...: <http://www.dailyillini.com/features/article_5dff0baa-b080-11e2-afb5-001a4bcf6878.html>; Sound and Fury - Cochlear Implants - The Debate - PBS: (1 more message)
asciilifeform: the original inspiration for the 'mra' folks was possibly the invalid 'community', where the nuttier ones actually thought that, e.g. being legless only sucks because of a 'conspiracy' of the two-legged
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller actually lol, nlocktime only works until block 500mn.
asciilifeform: not that they'd have walked sans astrologist.
asciilifeform: 'astrologist said now's a good time to shoot the prisoners.'
asciilifeform: as a kind of decorative slipcover for policy that 'must happen anyway', it works just the same.
mircea_popescu: afaik the only one ended up with a pickaxe in his eye socket.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so name a marxist in power in the ussr.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller hm.
asciilifeform: part of the official catechism
asciilifeform: not entirely unlike the relation of, e.g. marxism to ussr
mircea_popescu: actually, i don't know a single feminist, actual, honest fmeinist in a place of power within the usg. not one.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not nearly the same.
thestringpuller: hmm? "nLockTime is a parameter that can be attached to a transaction, that mandates a minimal time (specified in either unix time or block height), that before this time, the transaction cannot be accepted into a block." << i thought this meant that the tx with the nlock cannot be accepted into the block chain until said block heigh has arrived/passed?
mircea_popescu: "The manosphere is not an exclusive club. It will have its dark corners and violent people, like any large movement that protests something. And sexually frustrated beta male rage could just be the dark side of masculinity. It is uncomfortable for MRAs, the way cuckoldry, hypergamy and false accusations are uncomfortable for feminists."
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller once the nlock tx is into the chain, the btc is on the dest address, and that address can't sign a standard tx until the nlock expires
thestringpuller: the benefactor could make a new tx without nlock and send the unspent outputs elsewhere no?
mircea_popescu: "Feminism, on the other hand, has no problem using violence against their ideological enemies free speech, men who make lame jokes, men who approach a woman wrong, men who dont look attractive the next morning, and so on. Of course, this is all violence done by the state, so its technically not violence."
thestringpuller: couldn't the benefactor double spend before block height f
thestringpuller: so the benefactor signs tx with n lock variable
thestringpuller: simple use case: trust fund. guy wants to give someone money in the future, but only wants that person to unlock that transaction at some future block height f
mircea_popescu: there's a nlock variable you can set in any tx
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller what specifically ?
mircea_popescu: it's like knocking a woman up and moving to suburbia to have a perfect ballerina daughter only to end up with a braindamaged kid while the next door neighbour "gets" the ballerina.
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many of these various and sundry internet groups are mefiant/angry with bitcoin for the yarvin reason : they poured their energy into a different obscure thing, and what is this bitcoin to succeed exactly the way they had hoped their thing to succeed!
mircea_popescu: "Feminists like to use the presence of anger and sadness as a sign that the manosphere is a sad, terrible place." << lol yeah, because that's the feminist way : project patriarchy ideas opressing you outward. men should hate themselves for being angry just like we do!!11
mircea_popescu: see if there's more tech geeks than body builders
mircea_popescu: someone should do a map of the internet. not the bullshit nobody cares about corps like google and pinterest,
benkay: they also practice celling sereal
mircea_popescu: don't they go to pg's house once each year to eat ramen out of golden bowls ?
mircea_popescu: yeah, what people with money sit around on the internet all day.
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FUNDIE | The brain of the "Christian" fundie, while generally underdeveloped and often host of outlandish delusions, has a large capacity for memorization of Bible verses ...
mircea_popescu: benkay what the fuck am i going to write about it ?
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=MGTOW | Men/Man Going Their Own Way. MGTOW is basically the statement of self- ownership and saying that only you have the right to decide what your goals i...
assbot: MGTOWForums - Shut Down : TheRedPill
benkay: wait - that's all the log i get?
mircea_popescu: go around do other things, turn back, now it's a hippo.
mircea_popescu: anyway, used to lulz with the girls at this thing a decade ago. back then it was like a sort of you know, bambi
benkay: <mircea_popescu> how the fuck are they going to survive and why would anyone seriously propose living without having meaningful relationships with women ? // dunno man its a joy apparently few american guys en...joy
benkay: mircea_popescu going down the mra rathole
benkay: i *am* the ostracizer.
benkay: <mircea_popescu> benkay incidentally, where do you find them ? // for srs?
mircea_popescu: uh. this is fucking nonsense. for one, why 18, exactly ?! for the other... meh. it's a good time to start training a woman, but doubtless you'll get her anywhere pleasant before late twenties.
mircea_popescu: Try as we may, convincing a woman that her sexual peak lay actually between 18 and 25 is always an effort in debating denial. For all the self-convincing attempts to redefine sexual valuation to the contrary, SMV for women is ultimately decided by Men. Thus this bell curve is intended to represent the sexual value of women based on mens metrics, not as women (by way of ceaseless social engineering) would like to def
mircea_popescu: "this one time in between jobs i ended up pushing around crates for this porn firm i nthe valley"
mircea_popescu: "Ive had sex with over 40 women in my past, during a time when there was no such thing as formalized Game."
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The Sexual market value bullshit.
BingoBoingo: Deadspin at its less bad >> http://deadspin.com/how-the-ufcs-biggest-show-of-the-year-turned-into-a-fia-1594743611
mircea_popescu: Action: Many of us were fumbling around in the blue-pill wilderness for decades. Why let another poor soul languish in the Matrix to go around getting rejected, orbit around a land whale for years, getting talked into a marriage he doesn't want or need, be brainwashed by feminism to think his purpose in life is to serve a woman or serve society by being a beta-male slave, having his surplus labor siphoned off by women,
BingoBoingo: -"We're not obsessed with notch-count, we don't define our worth as men in terms of success or approval by women. Plenty of great men with actual value (AV) don't necessarily have sexual market value (SMV) and don't care. Being a better man happens in Living the Best Life."- << Sounds like a job for BtcAlpha
mircea_popescu: how the fuck are they going to survive and why would anyone seriously propose living without having meaningful relationships with women ?
mircea_popescu: Game: This one sets us apart. Our view is that being MGTOW means downing the 'red pill' and understanding the nature of women. Once you do so, the rest is up to you. It's a perfectly valid option to sit it out, to ghost when it comes to women. And it's just as valid to "scratch that itch" with escorts, either at home or abroad. But for guys who, knowing what they know, want to use game to set up plates, date, est
mircea_popescu: Living the Best Life: A big emphasis for us. Talk about: poker nights, video games, travel, lifting, books you're reading, that great anime you watched, sports you're doing, hobbies, philosophy, and on and on.
mircea_popescu: wait. there is A LOT MORE dram
mircea_popescu: At MGTOW Forums, we spent years fighting such fools who were psychos, incels and who vocally supported other places, that I won't mention, over our own. Such people were against us yet we managed to beat them time and time again.
mircea_popescu: For 3 years I've worked to build up MGTOW Forums into a force to be reckoned with, but alas it has failed. It has failed because of the very reasons which brought down the previous MGTOW board: inexperienced idiots who were angry at not being able to get laid - betas, zetas, red pills and the rest of the rubbish.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea wtf mgtowf was, but apparently there's drama to be had.
mircea_popescu: Post anything negative about the Admin of MGTOWForums (the forum that gave rise to this one).
mircea_popescu: then make contractions out of expressions
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BingoBoingo: Fucking my F.MPIF to non F.MPIF post ratio is getting to high. I'll blog the forum to learn its seekrits.
asciilifeform: the landau film has precedent. when they filmed the infamous nazi atrocity pic 'come and see', they fired real bullets over the heads of the actors
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: What's the forum's point?
mircea_popescu: turns out this exercise in discussing with the silly has at least yielded some interesting results
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: His person is the right build for rendering into Biodiesel
BingoBoingo: jborkl: Well in a sane legal jurisdiction what you'd do is do through the motions of petitioning the trustee for discovery that any distinction between MtGox, Tibbane, and Karpales is fictitious and attach the debts and their repayment to his person.
jborkl: It was all in Japanese except for the bankrupt part. Why didn't you guys tell me mtgox went bankrupt? I had to find out like this?
BingoBoingo: Postcards are the best way to transmit pornography