BingoBoingo: The thing about betting for a negative is that even if nextchange is estimated negative the first many days of a period, new hash is going to bleed all over your whites the last couple days
BingoBoingo: But how does it taste? Usually it takes some work to make a Capon Aviagen sent a team of scientists to Sanderson last autumn to study the issue and has acknowledged that an undisclosed change it made to the breed's genetics made the birds "very sensitive" to being overfed, he said. "We fed him too much. He got fat. When he got big, he did not breed as much as he was intended to," Cockrell said about the breed of rooster.
decimation: england was very well policed before the telegraph
decimation: well, the taxi inspector who encouraged a high speed chase to settle some paperwork
decimation: Isn't Lyft the one that works on "donations"
decimation: one wonders about the remarkable tolerance supposedly rich people in the US have for such poor public services
TheNewDeal: was trying to get a ride home from the airport, brother was asleep, ended up paying $9 after the $25 first time discount
TheNewDeal: on a similar note, I just used Lyft for the first time last week, and it worked out without a kidnapping
TheNewDeal: decimation "When they left their meeting there, they thought about taking Uber, but the wait was too long, so they took a cab instead."
decimation: the uber kidnapper is a layered story
asciilifeform: decimation: they're meant to work with hand-holding (if you ask me, that defeats the purpose of a robot)
asciilifeform: decimation: believe or not, the sub-$10k (new) chinese machines seem to lack optics.
decimation: "The normal external power feed appeared unreliable Monday, so officials switched to generators until the issue could be addressed. But, 13 hours later, the generators failed, leaving police briefly without radio coverage, 911 callers on hold, and 311 callers totally out of luck for 16 minutes."
assbot: Radio silence in D.C. - The Washington Post
decimation: "A side note: Waters said the hack inspector tried to radio for help from other agencies, but his attempt coincided with an outage of the city?s emergency communications system. "
assbot: Man visiting D.C. says Uber driver took him on wild ride - The Washington Post
ThickAsThieves: "The next day we noticed that our most popular article on the entire site, the "The $22,484.00 Butterfly Labs Mini Rig bitcoin miner is a huge, broken, unstable piece of shit." had been edited and now read The Butterfly Labs Mini Rig is a sexy Bitcoin mining machine."
ThickAsThieves: "So that's the whole story. I was tricked into selling Buttcoin.org to BFL and no longer have access to the site so I've set up camp on the subreddit instead so I can shitpost about bitcoins still."
mike_c: how the hell am i supposed to make any money.
assbot: BitBet - And Then There Was One :: 7.59 B (56%) on Yes, 6.04 B (44%) on No | closing in 4 months 5 days | weight: 35`178 (100`000 to 1)
mike_c: asciilifeform: no wai. the facebook oculus rift is 3d!
mircea_popescu: well, this and the surgery.
mike_c: i tried reading letters down the edges, but nothing.
mircea_popescu: maybe it means if they end up in penalty.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea how "draw" odds are supposed to work on all these betting sites tho. this is the wc final, wtf draw ?
mircea_popescu: which is an atrociously bad movie i had the misfortune to watch earlier.
TheNewDeal: hipsterset of historpy. oh my, going to have to reuse some of these
asciilifeform: TheNewDeal: markov chain text gen
TheNewDeal: can I get a period please, or a semicolon, or something of the like?
penguirker: New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-wife-of-wanda-wiamonds/
TheNewDeal: I actually didn't until saying sure, but still humorous nonetheless
kakobrekla: august the 3rd it is.
mike_c: uh, did you read the links he posted?
TheNewDeal: just wondering about any resolution plans for http://bitbet.us/bet/951/ , as I'm tired of reading all the derp comments
mircea_popescu: page 8 has other interesting statisticts. 156 cases, 9 convictions
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves re the uif thing, best part is their raport of activity. it has a 2000-2009 and 2010 - 2014 section, somehow this makes sense. scroll to page 6, admire the fines (multas in original)
mircea_popescu: fingertrap them!
mircea_popescu: incredible how actually useless the 2.0 web is.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know you probably get the girl her own handle.
asciilifeform: or 'reblogging' any of the above which is actually most common
mircea_popescu: the way tumblr works is that a post = 1 pic.
asciilifeform: people actually post text there.
asciilifeform: doesn't support comments, in the usual sense. instead, when you 'comment', it... reposts the turd on your own 'tumblr'
mircea_popescu: wait tumblr is the pic posting service.
asciilifeform: afaik it's the only turd of its kind.
benkay: they do roll
mircea_popescu: for the sake of nohomo.
benkay: 'contractor', please. for the sake of my taxes.
benkay: <mircea_popescu> mike_c i think the most peer review that's happened to date was me slapping around benkay's employees. // hey now that's a dangerous word to throw at americans
mircea_popescu: <Mats_cd03> Regulators almost everywhere need to do more research on the effectiveness of microprudential and other tools that could be used to deal with macroprudential problems. << the best tool is for them to stfu.,
benkay: <mircea_popescu> benkay no, i just had a moment of drool at the thought someone somewhere is making me a dollie :D // good taste is good taste
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.02 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 5246.35 GH/s
Mats_cd03: It will be important to ensure that coordination among different regulators of the financial system is effective and, in particular, will be effective in the event of a crisis.
Mats_cd03: Regulators almost everywhere need to do more research on the effectiveness of microprudential and other tools that could be used to deal with macroprudential problems.
Mats_cd03: now im the one thats lost
asciilifeform: just that it must be a bit of a grind for the bikers
mircea_popescu: the Silent Shadow Dragon
asciilifeform: not really disputing the dragon, it can be smelled.
asciilifeform: more like 'yeah he keeps a dragon in there, but most of what can be heard going in and out is motorcycles'
mircea_popescu: is this in the "i can't believe i know any dragons" category ?
asciilifeform: somehow i can't picture the folks buying 500 usd robot legs sitting on mpex
asciilifeform had the good fortune to oversee more or less this process, knows this
mircea_popescu: a corp trying to get one has prolly spend north of 10k just deciding whether it should be painted green or red.
mircea_popescu: an oil change on the corp jet ?
mircea_popescu: the unserious serious ones, anyway.
mircea_popescu: 20 btc to cover for mpex fee isn't even on the map.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'Customers can change their keys as often as they wish. The more responsible actually do' << seriously, people eat the 30 btc cost ?
mircea_popescu: no i mean, the hole being cpanel
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'ebury' << the interesting part is that the piece in the link is merely a payload. the actual anal opening through which the payload was inserted - was never, afaik, found.
mircea_popescu: mostly for "The network of cPanel Inc.'s support department was compromised and machines used for connecting to customers' servers were found to be infected with Ebury"
mircea_popescu: there's been some unpeer review too, through which i ended up simpleminded psychotic and so, but...
mircea_popescu: mike_c i think the most peer review that's happened to date was me slapping around benkay's employees.
mike_c: b-a peer review process: put an ID on each blog entry in blogs.b-a. if you have voice you can !rate a blog post. then bash-like page with best rated posts, etc.
mircea_popescu: what's wrong with the current one ?!
mircea_popescu: i'd rather start a slug farm.
mircea_popescu: "And, the amazing thing to people like me... is that there are people that believe the nonsense they're being fed."
mircea_popescu: roughly equal to most of the english speaking "academia"
mircea_popescu: waiting for the 8,5 million articles retraction by 1-2k "social sciences" publications due to a 50k strong peer fraud ring.
pankkake: no surprise some are trying to game the system
pankkake: they are a good example of "rent-seeking"
mircea_popescu: basically twitter/reddit/etc are the most successful of these "scientific journals" things/.
assbot: Scholarly journal retracts 60 articles, smashes ‘peer review ring’ - The Washington Post
mircea_popescu: "More than anything else he enjoyed spending time with his family at home and on his boat," the obituary said. "His brilliant mind, contagious smile, and warm embrace will be missed and cherished in memories by his friends and family."
mircea_popescu: Investigators took Tichelman's fingerprints from the wine glass, according to KGO-TV. An obituary posted in the Santa Cruz Sentinel describes Hayes as a husband and father to five children.
asciilifeform: notice (photo no. 9) the 'visitor' door - nailed shut.
asciilifeform: when you walk by, you can almost feel the weight of that penthouse.
asciilifeform: this is the most 'soviet' achitectural marvel i've personally seen here.
mircea_popescu: looks just like the "cultural center" of some obscure eastern soviet town
asciilifeform: there's even... a moat.
asciilifeform: and given as no one would go there just to see, here's some pics - http://imgur.com/2FIpuIy,FzMqMR9,NP0uzz5,IFSX1eE,HNMQjdq,bCs3u7l,pn5XiLa,nboYysE,ZOibTdz,2LXc9IW
asciilifeform: incidentally, the current fbi bldg. is a titanic monster
mircea_popescu: i lost an erection to the fact that chick went all "o look the ding dong" and then everyone spent the next half hour cracking up
mircea_popescu: pankkake isn't calling it a "ding dong" the lulziest thing ever ?
mircea_popescu: lol the dulap lives!
assbot: Northern Virginia officials worry CIA facility may scuttle bid to land FBI headquarters - The Washington Post
asciilifeform: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/northern-virginia-officials-worry-cia-facility-may-scuttle-bid-to-land-fbi-headquarters/2013/03/23/867ce358-924a-11e2-bdea-e32ad90da239_story.html << oldie but goodie. fbi wants to relocate, can't - turned out that the proposed new site already contains cia torture chambers.
asciilifeform: more from the lulpharms: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2014/06/13/mother-of-7-in-jail-because-her-kids-skipped-school-dies-in-cell/?wpsrc=AG0003360
HyperChetty: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/10958728/Australian-judge-says-incest-may-no-longer-be-a-taboo.html
asciilifeform: in usa, it makes more sense to destroy the evidence (you'll typically get a long - but finite - sentence, vs. indefinite 'at the pleasure of the crown')
asciilifeform: pankkake: afaik this is SOP in the uk
mircea_popescu: yeah, there were some naked pics of obama.
asciilifeform assumes mircea_popescu has enough sense to decide whether to answer this
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did the lookers-into ever deliver an interesting verdict from last time ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the whole thing's being looked into.
pankkake: I would suspect something with the host
pankkake: never said anything of the sort
mircea_popescu: the difference between ram chips and ssd drives is mostly academic.
mircea_popescu: the trade engine doesn't really keep that much, plus, tons of memory and cpu, which i think helps.
pankkake: while you're rebuilding, you are in a vulnerable state. hence the "fail half at once" has a higher chance to occur than you would think
mircea_popescu: (this actually happened a number of times, most recently about 3 days ago. i even said so, at the time)
mircea_popescu: pankkake there were two spares ready to go, and the rebuild is seamless, no downtime.
pankkake: I mean the time to obtain a hard drive if you don't have a spare (and the time to rebuild)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if it won't cost much, then it won't cost much to have them... not monitor the cameras, for five minutes.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: can't imagine it would cost much to have 'biorobots' monitor the cams in shifts.
pankkake: the thing is, "once" is actually a long time, the time you can change the drive and rebuild
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller look a little up just added a report.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and some cameras on the cameras box ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you have not previously installed cameras on the machine cabinet, now might be a good time.
jurov: pankkake: regardless of checks, ever had half of the drives fail aat once?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller yes
pankkake: my regular checks allowed me to replace drives before they fail, so just saying
pankkake: I don't know what you are doing with the raids, but scrubing the raid and checking smart data regularly could probably reduce those kind of occurences
mircea_popescu: benkay no, i just had a moment of drool at the thought someone somewhere is making me a dollie :D
benkay: <mircea_popescu> <benkay> latin, ballroom, the classics, various kinds of combat << is this a woman you're raising here ? // statistically likely
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in the immortal words of pesto, that ain't gonna work.
pankkake: funny, just made the same comment
benkay: (and after all, there’s nothing wrong with changing keys once a year anyway) // what, mpex gets to rotate keys, but nobody else gets to rotate the keys they use on mpex?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if power supply issues can be ruled out entirely - it is entirely conceivable that zapping the drives was the actual goal of the enemy. why? perhaps to lead to new ones being bought from a diddled supply chain.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> incidentally, this is what a 'clean' hit looks like. none of the nailgun nonsense. exec gets slightly more than his usual dose... << only works on stalin, and execs who actually do drugs.
mircea_popescu: <benkay> latin, ballroom, the classics, various kinds of combat << is this a woman you're raising here ?
benkay: well i certainly don't hire masters degree holders to stand by the crank and turn it all day
asciilifeform: benkay: the more school you've had, the less i'll pay you << how does this work? do you hire detectives to ferret out folks with secret diplomas?
asciilifeform: incidentally, this is what a 'clean' hit looks like. none of the nailgun nonsense. exec gets slightly more than his usual dose...
asciilifeform: say what you like about soviet apparatchiks - but they weren't dope fiends.
benkay: latin, ballroom, the classics, various kinds of combat
benkay: then she went off on the importance of education to what she does - shepharding 8 year olds around.
benkay: i told her that we have an inverted education incentive structure - the more school you've had, the less i'll pay you.
benkay: business partner's mother was in town recently, wanted to know what we'd pay for a master's degree
BingoBoingo: benkay: The pause button works perfectly for its master's purposes
assbot: The Art of CRXTO | Technoccult
benkay: beware the autoplaying video whose pause button doesn't work
mircea_popescu: mptranslate : "the reason we're claiming the arabs are going down while they're clearly kicking our butts has nothing to do with [our] ideology and everything to do with SCIENCE! Honest!"
benkay: i'm sorry, i don't understand the difference between said social policies and ideologies
assbot: Bad social policy, not ideology, is to blame for the Arab worlds downward spiral
benkay: http://theconversation.com/bad-social-policy-not-ideology-is-to-blame-for-the-arab-worlds-downward-spiral-28632
benkay: my work day starts at 7, but i don't hit the tubes till ten or later.
mircea_popescu: JorgePasada f.derp backs them.
BingoBoingo: jurov: asciilifeform: Notive running right through the middle of the place is that giant open sewer
Mats_cd03: plenty of derps in with the bidness crowd
Mats_cd03: bitfury vaurum icbit mastercoin foundation bitgo btcf ethereum @ coinsummit
JorgePasada: I'm assuming that's what they all are, not actual shares
JorgePasada: What are you basing the derivatives on?
mircea_popescu: JorgePasada yeah, you can buy bitpay and other bitcoin ventures
bitstein: "CoinSummit London is a two day event connecting virtual currency entrepreneurs, angel and VC investors, hedge fund professionals and others" - so... the worst of the Bitcoin community
JorgePasada: Yeah, thems fun
jurov: they'll never... but they could do at least something marginally useful, like gpg signing parties
JorgePasada: All the derps :-)
bitstein: When will the conferences end...
jurov: so who's talking and derping there?
jurov: Who's there?
JorgePasada: thx for the V
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: Mats_cd03: only worth reading if there's a source other than alexander lebed circa 1997.
gribble: Nuclear Terrorism: The Ultimate Preventable Catastrophe: <https://www.carnegiecouncil.org/studio/multimedia/20041116/5049.html/_res/id=sa_File1/Nuclear_Terrorism.pdf>; Nuclear Terrorism: The Ultimate Preventable Catastrophe - Council ...: <http://www.cfr.org/terrorism/nuclear-terrorism-ultimate-preventable-catastrophe/p7410>; Graham Allison: "The Ongoing Failure of Imagination" - ABC (1 more message)
Mats_cd03: ;;google nuclear terrorism the ultimate preventable catastrophe pdf
Mats_cd03: more rogue nuclear material in the wild
BingoBoingo: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/07/10/isis_uranium_iraq_rebels_seized_low_grade_nuclear_material_from_university.html
jurov: lol dramatic is the right word
gribble: Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
HyperChetty: Germany took the dramatic step Thursday of asking the top U.S. intelligence official in Berlin to leave the country,
xmj: there we goo
HyperChetty: Theres that old joke in Washington: that the definition of a camel is a race-horse designed by a Congressional committee.
pankkake: and he wasn't there
BingoBoingo: Well, assbot keeps them...
artifexd: In a world without assbot, only the other bots can speak... (Read in the voice of Don LaFontaine)
mircea_popescu: that said, the thing is quite retarded.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony you should see the hq ICBC has here.
mircea_popescu: decimation the solution obviously is, "make an ideology to which dissent is a self limiting condition"
decimation: well the solution to your order lies somewhere between ghandi and stalin
mircea_popescu names decimation the new head of the secret service. order #1 : arrest all the dissenters so that the population remains > 0.
decimation: technology (in certain respects) has been getting better, but it seems to me the problems faced are "np-hard"
asciilifeform recalls that xerx ordered the hellespont not only whipped, but... branded
mircea_popescu points stan to chapter 20ish of the book in question.
asciilifeform: it's that, or 'whip the sea'
asciilifeform: actually you can order reality around. it just takes a while to figure out how to speak the language to 'order' in.
mircea_popescu: they *did* whip it for failing to obey.
mircea_popescu: xerxes famously ordered the hellespont around, for that matter.
mircea_popescu: but the interface between sovereignity and productivity is iffy at best.
mircea_popescu: i mean, the girl being a good slave may die trying
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mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal is flying an impossible taks ?
mircea_popescu: things are progressing smothly in the manner of fml.
decimation: well, it's true that sovereignty is binary, either you rule or you don't
decimation: actually I think the idea mix of government is weak global regulation below strong local soverignty
mircea_popescu: but mind that the eu was quite successful while it limited itself to imposing things like the euro1-2-3-4 car emission standards.
decimation: we already have global government, it seems to me. my objection to it is its horrible cost/benefit ratio - the problem mostly being the ungovernable masses
decimation: yeah I don't see any way out of the problem other than having a king/judge make subjective decisions backed up with the threat of violence
mircea_popescu: decimation moreover, the market is provedly awful at allocating silence. london was nothing but a gray mist for most of modernity.
decimation: elements of polity or nationhood, what noble new phasis of human arrangement, or social device worthy of Prometheus or of Epimetheus, yet comes to light in America? "
decimation: yeah I think Carlyle would agree with you: "Deduct what they carried with them from England ready-made, -- their common English Language and that same Constitution, or rather elixir of constitutions, their inveterate and now, as it were inborn, reverence for the Constable's Staff; two quite immense attainments which England had to spend much blood, and valiant sweat of brow and brain, for centuries long in achieving; -- and what new
mircea_popescu: well... what if their parents didn't ? what if it's the united states of chimpanzees ?
mircea_popescu: "i don't have to beat them personaly but merely remind them of how their parents beat them"
mircea_popescu: lemon band is playing awfully badly, so you pay them 20 mn to stfu
decimation: I guess this is where you go to the King and plead your case
mircea_popescu: the op has nothing to offer.
mircea_popescu: but the point is this is not negotiable.
decimation: lol well there's a certain level of tolerance required to have civilization
mircea_popescu: and as i tell my neighbours that complain about my music, "either get lost or i'm going to kill you"
mircea_popescu: as i generally tell my neighbours that listed to the music too loud, "either turn it off or i'm going to kill you".
decimation: in the us you don't have property owners or rationality
decimation: but in the us, remote third parties suddenly have standing to tell you how to run your business
mircea_popescu: decimation there's no practical way to evaluate blighted skies. and the chinese don't wan to pay mongolia or w/e
mircea_popescu: they may mean well and act honorably, but they're fucking peas in the field. no way to know enough to form a meaningful opinion.
mircea_popescu: this has been known since forever as the noble lie. ie, most people have no fucking business giving their opinion in the forum.
mircea_popescu: the result of idiots being politically involved.
mircea_popescu: n3 is a small consumer with a large gas plant. they picket it and it's closed. large industry down the road needs power so even further coal plant is brough back online.
decimation: which is also the government's fault, because the land-use regulation in the US has effectively short-circuited the nuisance tort process
mircea_popescu: neighbourhood 1 gets together to "do something for environment", blows up all the leaves with leafblowers. N2 pledges to stop eating beef so as to help reduce cowfart methane production. the importers normaly supplying them suffer a shock, a bunch of meat is discarded.
decimation: that's true, in the end it's entitled nimbys who think they can tell others what to do on their own land
mircea_popescu: well no, not the same.
decimation: the same environmentalists would gladly shut down a gas plant "because environment" and thus force the old coal plant to burn
decimation: if there is enough refinery capacity to make it
mircea_popescu: afaik by 2015 they'll burn nothing but.
decimation: The most common residual fuels in the shipping industry are RMG and RMK.[4] ,,, Ships with more advanced engines can process heavier, more viscous, and thus cheaper, fuel.
assbot: Fuel oil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
decimation: I suspect if you tried to build a new refinery to burn it more cleanly they would protest that too
assbot: NECN Board calls for moratorium on oil trains - Northeast Coalition of Neighborhoods