decimation: some part of the usg has to be able to operate in secrecy effectively to perform this laudering plan right?
decimation: eh, that supposes that the usg is secretly competent, which you just implied was not the case above
benkay: well i've worked through these provisioners from top to bottom, and now it's time to test them all against some freshness
decimation: are you saying the auction never took place?
decimation: what does the fact that the US auctioned off the DPR horde of btc rather than put it in the fed reveal about usg?
mircea_popescu: the us is not in any top.
mircea_popescu: germany is maybe in the top 10. russia is of course in the top 5, way up there with romania and israel.
mircea_popescu: the russians halped.
decimation: re: german spies << either the germans are really good or the CIA sucks at spying, apparently
mircea_popescu: i was like "why do i never receive altcoin summaries&updates ???" "because they are all exceedingly stupid" "no wai." "eta 2 hours"
decimation: when you boil that down, the american "middle class" is really at most maybe 10% of the population, so maybe ~20 million adults
mircea_popescu: the mood strikes.
decimation: or easily could be ex-pats, if the mood struck
mircea_popescu: of the remainder 20%, about 10% are homeless, in prison or in mental institutions
assbot: The Average 401k Balance By Age
decimation: lol https://blog.personalcapital.com/financial-planning-2/average-401k-balance-age/ "Supposedly two-thirds of working households age 55-64 with at least one earner have retirement savings less than one times their annual income. Given the median household income is roughly $52,000, that?s not a good sign."
mircea_popescu: decimation 50% are in cc hell. of the remainder, 30% are in middle class hell (they have some money, locked away in iras, college funds, ss payments etc - all of which is as good as gone but nobody's telling them).
decimation: I suspect the "wealthy" half has most of their assets locked away in retirement plans, and most of those plans don't allow you to "invest" as you choose
mircea_popescu: this is the anon coin.
decimation: so they cleary have less than $0 net worth
kyuupichan: Another blockchain spammer: https://blockchain.info/address/1AH3gdneXaV1qEEB1XJQjS7qbzktf1APx7
mircea_popescu: ok, look at sweeden : by that judgement, 231k mean 40k median, it is the MOST inequal country in all of europe.
decimation: so, you are saying that the nasdaq data is inflated because of "paper house value"
mircea_popescu: also ludicrous : india 4k, china 20k ? heh. the chinese aren't 5x ahead of the indians just because the chinese govt inflated a real estate bubble which delhi doesn't quite match
decimation: right, so the median adult can barely afford half a median house
mircea_popescu: decimation roughly in the sense darkcoin is worth 4 dollars per.
decimation: anyone who has ever been near the DACH zone knows that germans are rich as fuck
kyuupichan: Just finished paying for my whole Maldives trip with BTC. Sorry to keep the downward price pressure on.
decimation: well, in May 2014 the median existing home price was $213,400 in the us http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/HOSMEDUSM052N
cazalla: we also have inflated property prices out the ass
mircea_popescu: BayAreaCoins start with something easy, like getting in the wot.
BayAreaCoins: No breaks please. Bust my balls with full force. It is all good. mircea_popescu. Decimation I think there are a number of places that middle class americans already exchange BTC. I'm also not 100% convinced that is why I'm interested in what you guys have to say.
benkay: BayAreaCoins: you're going to have a hard time figuring out what'd benefit the ecosystem when you don't even have big boy pants on.
mircea_popescu: this is the internet. it does whatever you want it to.
benkay: or is it perfect because you've made everything you want that you can imagine for it atm? // this sounds like the guy who asks "so do all of your friends use linux, then?" when told one occasionally counsels friends on not being retarded with crypto
mircea_popescu: that's kinda why you're stuck reading the logs for a while.
decimation: Mr. Coins if you are convinced there is a "middle class" of bitcoin users in the us, why not start an exchange for them?
BayAreaCoins: lol happy to be the first :P... it's what I do ;)
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron is this the first successful charge-for-up case ?
mircea_popescu: ok, x11 is fucking dumb, for the record. jesus it's scary what happens when engineers just start doing shit without any supervision.
mircea_popescu: the magix.
mircea_popescu: so let me get this straight, this coin produces about 3/4 of the bitcoins of a day, and they're supposedly worth 1 bitcent each ?
benkay: had a great interaction with a human today at a bbq: "what do you think of all of the other coins?" "you mean the forks of the bitcoin reference implementation with various knobs diddled?" "are they--" "yes."
mircea_popescu: Is there any community out there, that despite the price crashes and road-bumps, stick together in such a strong manner, getting stronger by the day?"
mircea_popescu: Is there any website even remotely close to chaeplin's detailed network analysis, even for Bitcoin?
mircea_popescu: "Is there any other coin that has so many talented individual developers backing up the network?
mircea_popescu: apparently they got a hard fork.
asciilifeform: 'everyone' has a use for atomic dirigible. except for the folks who can afford it.
mircea_popescu: but plenty more in the same vein.
mircea_popescu: the most recent examples of this are of course mthreat's search and ninjashogun's whatever the fuck that was,
mircea_popescu: the latter all started as in "here's my bright idea i came up with"
mircea_popescu: the former all started as in "you guise desperately need and ask for this, here it is"
mircea_popescu: BayAreaCoins if you take the time to read this chan, which you should in any case, you'll discover all the respected/successful projects have the same thing in common, as all the mocked/despised "entrepreneurs" in their own characterisation have something else in common.
mircea_popescu: the world works exactly backwards.
mircea_popescu: not distinguishable from the process where dork figures out how his dream gf should look and then proceeds to try and find her.
mircea_popescu: the process whereby you come up with "ideas" and then look for applications is fundamentally broken
mircea_popescu: BayAreaCoins let's take this one meta further.
BayAreaCoins: is what it is. I know where not to get clients for the offshore idea :P learned something haha
mircea_popescu: this is the lulziest shit i read all day,.
mike_c: i meant the bitcoin-assets stake currently being applied.
BayAreaCoins: mike_c Which stake are you talking about though, I generally have a number of them poking me :P
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mircea_popescu: nam-shub_ 50 to 100k usd, in ba. quite overpriced yet, they're sitll hoping.
asciilifeform: BayAreaCoins: the only way you could conceivably 'save' a 'DPR' is to put - distance, army, navy, missile battery - between his arse and the nice folks in washington
BayAreaCoins: Not just that of course either.
BayAreaCoins: asciilifeform lets say you are in SF and you're reading a book in the Sci-Fi section... lol haha :P no but really.
asciilifeform: BayAreaCoins: describe a scenario where a user of your service will come out unscathed, where a user of plain bitcoin would perish.
BayAreaCoins: Correct but the majority of people in the world have 0 fucking clue wtf the blockchain is and if they do they are scared of losing their shit. Look at coinbase building their "safe" wtf is the point of that! ;)
asciilifeform: privacy and the ability to store value where they want << the existing blockchain provides this.
BayAreaCoins: dub That was a extreme event that was brought up by asciilifeform. I would venture to say that there is a market for people who are looking for privacy and the ability to store value where they want in the world.
asciilifeform: and by pitching a service explicitly to 'appeal to next DPR', you become... DPR. in the sense that once his stake is vacated, you will sit down on it.
asciilifeform: dub: this is rather like saying there is no market for a perpetuum mobile. of course there is. but, go build it.
BayAreaCoins: Divorces, blah blah blah you know the shit that happens in life
asciilifeform: BayAreaCoins: if this were so, he could simply keep his coldwallet in a bank deposit box (or some number of them, via shamir's algorithm)
asciilifeform: BayAreaCoins: do you imagine that the greatest threat to an american btc user's stash is burglars, fire, flood?
BayAreaCoins: That has to be the clients choice, but either way the coins are safe at the end of the day.
asciilifeform: BayAreaCoins: fine. they take his family and sharpen N stakes, one for each hostage. and send him to pick up.
BayAreaCoins: I believe it would need to be set up to were the client can instantly send the coins from anywhere in the world, but actually has to pick them up in person or have someone who is part of the "trust" pick them up. (in case the primary account holder dies ect.)
asciilifeform: and it goes to the same place.
asciilifeform: in scenario 'b', there is a 'private key' just as in 'a'
asciilifeform: BayAreaCoins: scenario 'b' - your service exists. u.s. inquisition drags a fellow away, sits him down on a sharp stake and pulls on his legs until he makes the magic phone call to $country where his coins are 'trustily' stored.
asciilifeform: BayAreaCoins: let's draw a picture. scenario 'a' - current state of the art. u.s. inquisition drags a fellow away, sits him down on a sharp stake and pulls on his legs until he coughs up his private key.
benkay: i'm just having the tiniest bit of trouble stitching this into something coherent.
asciilifeform: BayAreaCoins: or that it ever makes logical sense to trust another person with your private key
BayAreaCoins: Sadly you are going to have child labor in everything... all the way from making shoes to now mining. I don't think it can be avoided, but I think the game is swinging more toward bots... which obviously doesn't matter bot or not if it is a 5 year old running it.
asciilifeform: BayAreaCoins: Off shore paper wallets with a network of trusted hedge fund attorneys around the world that are willing to hold paper wallets for clients within countries that have good privacy laws << lol, seriously think that law is a thing?
mircea_popescu: so, half liter screwdriver, made out of right-now pressed oj and 12 yo cognac ? well, about $4 for the oranges, about $3 for the b randy.
asciilifeform saw film, 'snowpiercer' - an otherwise ridiculous cheap sf flick with some good meat re: hierarchy and the nature of 'derp'
benkay: <BayAreaCoins> haha that's the last time you'll have to do that man :) Thanks :P you got a bitcoin address for donations :P // 'course, you'll have to get rated, too.
benkay: <BayAreaCoins> I like the mining structure and having potential to "create" jobs // oh god what is going on here
BayAreaCoins: It's hard out there ;) hahaha (song)
BayAreaCoins: I was involved with them since 2010... my profile structure is actually one of the most copied there is on MyFreeCams now
mircea_popescu: click all the img links
BayAreaCoins: Which camwhores do you speak of or all of them in general accepting BTC for donations?
BayAreaCoins: haha is that a reference to the nickle thing too ;)
mircea_popescu: speaking of bitcents, kinda amazing no further camwhores came forward.
BayAreaCoins: haha that's the last time you'll have to do that man :) Thanks :P you got a bitcoin address for donations :P
mircea_popescu: "[14-06-23 14:07:53] C-CEX: There is no Your, or my coins. I explained situation. That happens. I did not take any customer's coin."
BayAreaCoins: Well unless you are fucking bullet proof you might have to blast their ass if they come in your house! :P Never mind, but good points. Thanks man
mircea_popescu: why would i shoot them personally ?!
BayAreaCoins: So you would rely 100% on your ability to shoot. I would think if I was put in that situation I would want to have a place to drop them off in case I got hit during the fire fight... that way I could leave the coins to my family or what not (like setting up a Trust)
mircea_popescu: "After "darkman" that find my mistake and get used of it made return of some DRK, exchange had about 250K DRK in wallet with discrepancy of about 50K DRK. Then I reversed DRK/BTC transactions made with him. After that I made another big mistake: I did not disabled withdrawals for users with negative balances."
mircea_popescu: i'd just shoot them.
BayAreaCoins: Well I suppose that is why I stumbled though here again to pick your head a bit. If you knew someone was coming to get you right now and they were going to tear your house down brick by brick searching it... where would you put your coins? (feel free to tell me to fuck off)
BayAreaCoins: Billy coded DOGE and Jackson was the marketing fuckhead
BayAreaCoins: hmmm da fux... they close down shop I guess? I saw their little video leak.. I had a good chuck over that. Jackson is absolutely horrible to work with.... I like Billy a fuck of a lot more.
BayAreaCoins: However I can assure you there are a number of us who aren't :) Don't get too down on good ole 'Murica ;)
BayAreaCoins: I think a lot of them are happy with being poor... which is disgusting.
BayAreaCoins: Obviously there is a decent demand for offshore banking, but I don't know a single one that I can set up within 10minutes from the comfort of my house and have it funded as well. Sure you can afford the flight, but you'll get laughed out of the bank.
mircea_popescu: and no, the distinction is lower than that. something like 90% of us people own 1k or less in net assets.
BayAreaCoins: I would make the argument that there is a C. This would be middle class people who have a bank balance >250,000 (which is what FDIC insurance here in this country) but less than $1,500,000. I think that it would be more pointed towards them because I think people between those #'s are still a bit timid.
mircea_popescu: all.the.tools.omfg.
mircea_popescu: you know, dear #bitcoin-assets, my short walk around the other freenode chans has really made me appreciate how much this chan rocks.
BayAreaCoins: I totally agree about the two people thing. Group a = Myself and group B = potential customers?
BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu I've already contacted a few firms and they of course want to be involved for the same reason as any other law firms wants to be involved with anything.. Money. I think that group B would want to privately be involved with group A because it is better than having some FEDs come grab your lap top while you are reading in the Sci-Fi section
mircea_popescu: you seem to think "people" is a thing. "people" is not a thing, but at least two : the people who don't matter, and the people who, if they feel like it, fly over here, open a bank box and bang a coupla hotties the same night
BayAreaCoins: I think a number of people in my country (America) are very very interested about how to bank "off shore", but they don't have the proper contacts. I believe if this was set up it would give people the ability to go off shore within a hour of deciding they wanted to (by using btc, also the extra $ flowing in isn't going to kill any of us either)
mircea_popescu: "I am a 23 yr M, diagnosed Bi-Polar:NoS with a history of Mixed States. Or, in other words, I faily to cope with my body's confusion on being manic and depressed at the same time, causing an abundance of frustration that turns to almost uncontrollable anger. I currently live with my fiancee, we are to be married this year, at the end of September, I'm on permanent disability for a variety of mental incapacitates."
BayAreaCoins: Got 140BTC out of 100 million of them though about
mircea_popescu: why would anyone bother with this ?
BayAreaCoins: Maybe there is something already like that that I am unaware of as well though
BayAreaCoins: Basically exactly what it sounds like. Off shore paper wallets with a network of trusted hedge fund attorneys around the world that are willing to hold paper wallets for clients within countries that have good privacy laws. Therefore giving the world the ability to chose which country they store their coins in safely.
BayAreaCoins: there is* ffs
BayAreaCoins: I've seen their web base browser play that will allow people to instantly start "mining" though game play. Right now to sync the wallet is... well.. fucking huge to say it nicely. Probably has the largest bloat of any coin their is.
BayAreaCoins: I'm not 100% sure, but I'm going to go a head and pass that question along as well because I'd be interest in the response. Shits n giggles ya know
BayAreaCoins: I'm more interested in the mining power behind it and the networks on going security. Total supply : * 2734040 HUC Hashrate : * sha256 : 2 818.74TH/s * scrypt : 13.30GH/s
BayAreaCoins: www.Huntercoin.info that is the block chain. 90% of the coins are distributed via the "game" inside the wallet. To keep the network secure 5% Sha-256 and 5% Scrypt (dual merge mining.)
BayAreaCoins: Only thing that is semi tough is the need for HUC to start out mining HUC. Which is a good thing too at the same time.
BayAreaCoins: I like the mining structure and having potential to "create" jobs. Which I've got my fingers cross will bring more people into the crypto currency scene. It is at least different and the devs are know.
BayAreaCoins: Mostly in the Altcoin world I'm just trying to keep my holdings of HUC @ 5-10% of the O/S... I feel like ever since DOGE it has just exploded with shit on shit that is topped off with shit.
mircea_popescu: BayAreaCoins there's fmpif which is roughly similar.
BayAreaCoins: What are you guys investing in BTC wise as of late? Losing JD has me a bit lost on the BTC investment side. Although, I'm balls deep in a alt I think has a good chance.
BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu No inventor and no employees that is always a plus. It'll be interesting needless to say. Our ebay lister is stacked with 24,000 items, but getting ebay to up our limits is a bit of a pain in the ass.
mircea_popescu: i guess an automated online auction scalper isn't the absolute worst first project someone may try.
BayAreaCoins: Can't live life in fear of failure or you'll never take the chance you need to succeed. If I had a nickle for every time I fucked up... I'd have far more nickles than I do now ;)
BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu I never go into anything expecting to fail, but if I do that is why I have the LLC up :P
BayAreaCoins: mike_c not yet, still working on the code. Drop shipping Amazon from Ebay to start out with. Domain is locked down and I submitted articles of organization last night.
mircea_popescu: BayAreaCoins well then you won't be too surprised we just expect you to fail and learn from the experience ?
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BayAreaCoins: mike_c No need for warehouses or partnerships to start out with. Basically what the company is going to do is relist items with a very small price bump and automate everything. We have been testing with 200 items for the past little bit and are seeing a good chunk of volume moving. I guess my main concern is that the shippers do their job because refunds are going to be a total and complete pain in the ass.
BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu ah very nice. I think if I was going to live in South America I'd be looking at Belize (ambergris caye.) Any reason why you chose Argentina over the other countries?
BayAreaCoins: mike_c A automated drop shipping company and then a alt that I think is semi interesting (Huntercoin)
mike_c: what are the nerdos working on?
BayAreaCoins: How is Romania for coins? Pretty wide usage over there?
BayAreaCoins: I think once all of it comes together... well it will come together :P Just kind of selling a gun or two while I wait. I need a new bag because I'm sorta bored with everything atm.. Life :D
BayAreaCoins: Going pretty good man. I'm kind of in that limbo stage of waiting on nerdos to finish up code... Feel like that has been the story of my life for 4-6 months :)
mircea_popescu: so how's the bay area for coins ?
mircea_popescu: Given the recent security breaches and reliability issues experienced by other markets, we felt the community deserved better. If virtual currencies are to truly take off, trustworthy infrastructure is a prerequisite."
mircea_popescu: "Built and operated in the United States, Bittrex is the next generation crypto trading platform created by security professionals. We are crypto-coin enthusiasts bringing more than 50 years of combined security and development experience to the trading community from companies, including Microsoft, Amazon, Qualys, and BlackBerry.
mircea_popescu: and since we're on the lulz,
mircea_popescu: or w/e the pixel fountain is called.
mircea_popescu: looking at this data, bitcoin is just about the largest one thing on freenode.
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mircea_popescu: https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=47057 << if anyone's curious how the entire bitcoin-by-country irc nonsense got started.
mircea_popescu: benkay all these broken wots everyone's implemented.
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mircea_popescu: ;;later tell hanbot remember the guy that sent a complaint to spanish police (where he was at the time being an romanian temp worker) that mtgox won't send him proof of its id ? he's dead.
mircea_popescu: im toying with the general idea of distributed effort to destroy social media. this'd be an experiment in that sense.
mircea_popescu: basically, there are some competent redditards. they're the people who came to reddit to hide among the redditards.
mircea_popescu: actually that site is pretty good thestringpuller
benkay: thestringpuller: i want man.systems
benkay: certainly, but if one's tapping on the table?
mircea_popescu: if there isn't a face there to stop your fist, your arm has to do it. and it's not really equipped or designed for such.
mircea_popescu: try punching as hard as you can in the air, see what happens.
benkay: they keypress is required to prevent bruising?
asciilifeform: why does this crud appear again and again? no one heard of 'gorilla arm syndrome' and the like?
assbot: Is there a site for betting on sports games with BTC? : Bitcoin
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2agpe1/is_there_a_site_for_betting_on_sports_games_with/ reddit knows
assbot: AirType keyless bluetooth keyboard fits in the palm of your hand
asciilifeform would buy the above gadget but for the 3-phase mains - and the fact that it would fall through the floor.
asciilifeform: 'All of the mechanical stuff on this unit is from the 80's (When the mechanical stuff was great because the computers sucked)' << re: earlier discussion of power supplies.
asciilifeform: 'The "extra" pinchers are attached to a LCR meter for the machine to "measure" each component before it put it down! You wont find that on the $5K Chinese machines!' << had no idea this existed. anywhere.
mircea_popescu: killed by the novie.
asciilifeform: 'They've Killed President Lincoln!' (1971.)
mircea_popescu: "It is their firm determination to mercilessly destroy anyone who dares hurt or attack the supreme leadership of the country even a bit." shit sounds like john cleese was the copywriter in charge.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform can you name a film where the us president (named) is killed ?
mircea_popescu: in fact the monograph is a result of me getting sick of referencing it blind)
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/soft-consensus-aka-fecal-matter/ (referenced there, and plenty of other places,
mircea_popescu: oddly you're the 2nd person to ask me this today. has it just been re-released or something ?
mircea_popescu: " When he stumbled on a road crew without a foreman one day, Cole leaped into the breach and directed the men to Londons busy Piccadilly Circus, where he had them excavate a huge trench in the street. A nearby policeman obligingly redirected the heavy downtown traffic all day, and it was several hours before the city noticed the unauthorized hole.
mircea_popescu: if you had wandered into bookshelv in vienna cca 1814, you'd have seen the same book
asciilifeform randomly wandered into an old book store last night, saw a textbook on romanian language. every chapter opened with some example of torments from the 'russian yoke.'
asciilifeform: (answer: they will - if you pay. but who will pay.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: now why would they make those for export.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform or, who knows, maybe the chinese start making actually good parts.
mircea_popescu: 10mn a year people had been paying just for those, in the hopes htey'll sell them on to suckers. something tells me 2013 had not colected 10mn worth of chump money.
mircea_popescu: punkman the success of "domainers" and domains being "real estate"
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asciilifeform: at some point the japanese parts will no longer get shipped in (won't pass the geiger at the container crane!) and then we'll really be phucked.
asciilifeform: or, alternatively, purchasing a unit where there never were chinese caps (difficult now - the chicoms have taken to mimicking the japanese markings)
asciilifeform: one can still achieve the 10+ life - by removing all chinese electrolytic caps and replacing with normal ones
mircea_popescu: amusing how shitty psus became, incidentally. the originals usualy last > a decade. the replacements, maybe even 5 years.
mircea_popescu: i still have board/cpu assemblies from the 90s
asciilifeform: that machine served me through all of uni & a bit longer. RIP 'humanoid', 2001-2007. (named after line from soviet film, approximately 'humanoid rockets through the sky, screaming out that school's a lie')
mircea_popescu: the one similar thing i saw was purpose made copper tray filled with thermosilicone, on which pcb rested.
asciilifeform: if i were to attempt it again, i'd probably just machine a copper plinth in which the mobo can live, upside-down, with fins on bottom side.
mircea_popescu: you basically had no cold source on the pcb. all the things you cooled were meanwhile heating towards it.
mircea_popescu: <artifexd> Ah. Yeah. Blocks for motherboards are available. They cover the north bridge/south bridge and the power caps. <<<
mircea_popescu: a, no, see, that's the key element here.
mircea_popescu: were you cooling just the proc ? or bridges too ?
mircea_popescu: how hot was the radiator getting ?
asciilifeform: water line ran through two cpus, disk jacket, gpu. there was still some air circulation from power supply (conventional air cooling.) but sans case fan, machine would croak reliably.
mircea_popescu: as long as you keep most of the board cool, mostfets can't make enough heat to cook themselves.
mircea_popescu: i'm telling you, they'll be fine. you're thinking in terms of air movement removing heat, but even in a sealed case,
asciilifeform: heuristic: if mosfet has even a small 'hedgehog', the board designer thought pcb trace cooling to be insufficient.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> pc mobo is encrusted with items like mosfets that presume circulation of air << not really. mostly actually cool through the metal of the pcb
artifexd: It's the plumbing replacement for copper. Flexible tubing.
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artifexd: My system is all contained in the case.
artifexd: My ears aren't near as sensitive as yours so I'm good with a few slow moving fans on the radiator.
artifexd: Ah. Yeah. Blocks for motherboards are available. They cover the north bridge/south bridge and the power caps.
artifexd: The heat has to go somewhere
artifexd: Waterblocks are available for just about everything now. It can take some looking. They aren't cheap. But they work well.
asciilifeform: artifexd: then the answer is clear. 'teflon' tape on the threads, connectors glued (or welded, if copper hose) to the tube.
asciilifeform: the ones i had were machined copper encased in a plastic water jacket, with plastic barbs (non-removable)