Duffer1: it's not associated, the service is even in my moms name
Duffer1: how did they know my phone service provider
assbot: (Audiobook) The Original Bitcoin White Paper by Satoshi Nakamoto - YouTube
mthreat: I want to put this as the background of a good song remix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yYrYCE4i1c&feature=share
mthreat: 2fa lasts 30 seconds; if someone were watching live, they could use it as you type it. <-- ultra paranoid
Duffer1: how were they able to change coinbase pw when i have 2fa enabled
Duffer1: then tried to call my cell phone company to set up call forwarding
Duffer1: they somehow got my unique email pw
assbot: When a Fan Hits the Shit - Fanlore
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mike_c: it's hard to have a "your bets" thing, because it's all on the blockchain. but i could let you mark arbitrary bets as yours and then track those.
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mike_c: did you ever spend any time in there?
mircea_popescu: aite, i guess it can be a point of argument then. gotta give users something to complain about
mike_c: and i do handle it, not like the game blows up
mike_c: srsly, the world will be invaded by aliens a billion times over before that happens
mircea_popescu: a. because the sort of people who want to play this are ocd types
mircea_popescu: "- None of the main convention organizers appear to have a background in fan conventions or similar events. DashCon owners Megan Eli and Roxanne Schwieterman are a novelist with 15 years of business experience and a 20-year-old with a degree in hospitality management, respectively."
mircea_popescu: i mean this is even cheaper than the bitcoin foundation prizepool.
mircea_popescu: no srsly, the neobees of this world gotta learn from this dashcom thing
mike_c: blame the miners
mike_c: the blockchain is scamming, not me.
assbot: War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!
dub: http://thegeekiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/10514163_10153083113518569_5085828363159786149_o.jpg
kakobrekla: thats the point
benkay: kinda not a language-level thing, the profitability of an operation.
mircea_popescu: the competitor to ruby on rails.
mircea_popescu: reusing code has the advantage that bugs may be found
mircea_popescu: Azelphur the l2ness
mircea_popescu: benkay lets jkoin then
mircea_popescu: i think if you ask nicely kako may share the code of how he tests it
benkay: <syntheticsky> as as I can't stay online
benkay: <syntheticsky> anyone interested in starting a new altcoin based on the concept of strong artificial intelligence? I run an AI project. please /join #syntheticsky if interested
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Azelphur: mircea_popescu: I dunno, I guess the monthly sub thing could work towards making some money, also what's assbots l2?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla btw, do you know what's the SECOND most common thing i get ?
kakobrekla: <Azelphur> mircea_popescu: you were right about my business endeavours btw :) < ah, the powers of ba.
mircea_popescu: !s name in the spec
Azelphur: sometimes I forget the wonders of my fancy new fibre connection.
Azelphur: mthreat: Uploading, will be available at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3832397/misc/2014/Jul/bitcoin-assets.zip once the upload is complete.
mthreat: Azelphur: if you have logs, I'd love them, to backfill search.b-a :)
mircea_popescu: apparently bitcoin is not exceptional wrt bagholders and their behaviour
assbot: Over the course of a weekend, DashCon 2014 descended into chaos
mthreat: mircea_popescu: ya I was waiting for one guy who may have the logs from 2 years ago with no holes. I think his nickname begins with "A" but I can't remember it
mircea_popescu: well yes, 2years ago. proly mthreat didn't get around to parsing the old stuff he got
benkay: looks like a hole in the logs.
benkay: !s evades the bans
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mircea_popescu: "Those like Dean need to be held accountable and 4chan and /pol/ in particular, need to look after their own shop. An online space with a little more freedom is a good thing, but its up to the community itself to warn people like Dean off when they go too far. "
cazalla: poor bastard actually has a disclaimer on his website that no, he isn't the author of the anti semetic versions
cazalla: there's a few hilarious versions around, the shit they did to ben garrison is probably the lulziest shit i've ever seen online
mircea_popescu: and for the same fucking reason, i would imagine.
mircea_popescu: wait, the humourless fuck that made a cartoon in which some guy holding a guy fawkes mask is told by the mask, prophetically!11 "you are not as anon as you tihnk" complains that he doesn't understand why people deface his crap ?!
mircea_popescu: what the fuck, this should be on kickstarter.
assbot: Online Hate Prevention Institute » 4Chan’s /pol/ and the Trouble with Dean
cazalla: http://ohpi.org.au/4chans-pol-and-the-trouble-with-dean/ there is an aussie jew who takes the bait
jurov: <mircea_popescu> ... they sent no less than 15 emails to my spam filter.<< was it coindesk? they were target of phishing and it looked exactly like this.
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mircea_popescu: o i see, they're oppressing jewish dyslexuals.
mthreat: the german player's name was götse. i can't beleive we are't seeing goatse memes
mircea_popescu: they actually seem kinda peacible
mircea_popescu: yellow card all the people!
fluffypony: another yellow card, wtf
kakobrekla: prolly depends on the btc price.
mircea_popescu: memories of the great patriotic war ?
kakobrekla: ok so there might be a small window of stability which would allow for that idea to work, i give you that.
cazalla: mircea_popescu: i couldn't think of a witty retort at 6am so the autistic one will have to do :P
mircea_popescu: principaly because that'll be strictly the only type of water heater available
mircea_popescu: there won't be any qc computing. ever.
mircea_popescu: and then, 20-50-100 years spent trying to make wetware work.
mircea_popescu: i think we will, yes. silicone will get pushed to the end by say 2040, where you CAN get faster processors but it's not economically worth it.
mircea_popescu: it'll happen, in spite of all the derpage re qc.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla it'll work when the tech is stable.
kakobrekla: wait until they figure out you can do it on fpga.
mircea_popescu: cazalla a ok then :p
mircea_popescu: "Jeff Garzik @jgarzik · 5h Free business idea: Water heaters that mine #bitcoin. Decentralize mining and usefully shed excess heat, rather than waste it."
cazalla: mircea_popescu: there's no black people in australia, also little crime
mircea_popescu: well, if anyone cares, it is the case coinbase may have a hole in how it handles multipayment txn then.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony apparently the problem only appears when using multipayment tx.
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fluffypony: it's the fluffypony method of spelling wack
mircea_popescu: if however it was a systemic problem, then yes)
fluffypony: if you refresh the page does it show up as paid?
mircea_popescu: kinda what i wanted to check, where to start the debug
mircea_popescu: this is like the 3rd time.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony so fiverr has this glitch, whereby sometimes it gets paid for an order (via coinbase) but then... just ignores it. you ever had something like that happen ?
fluffypony: indiancandy1: watching the soccer, so no
indiancandy1: did u see the orb
indiancandy1: and watch at 36 seconds a light shoots across the room
mircea_popescu: i'd rather listen to blur in concert.
indiancandy1: u should join the festivities
mircea_popescu: whole street is packed. (well the fact that i live within a block of the equivalent of say the washington monument doesn't help)
mircea_popescu: you can distinctly hear the game out the window, to the degree of fouls, saves, etc.
fluffypony: well there we go
indiancandy1: so i showed my producer a video of me dancing at work yesterday and she said that there is spirits in the vide
asciilifeform: can't say i ever used one of these
kakobrekla: from the topside
asciilifeform: at any rate, 'loongson' isn't interesting because of the mechanicals.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: that's the u.s. mil spec machine. it's mostly plastic.
asciilifeform: aha there it is.
mircea_popescu: they're playing it now
indiancandy1: dont you go visit them
asciilifeform: the 'loongson' machine are virtually unobtainable in usa.
asciilifeform: that box doesn't even need much in the way of a bios. just a little bootloader stub.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik it's the all-free-everything one
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is that the all-free-except-bios thing ?
indiancandy1: is romania in the mediternian sorry my geography is terible
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Crystal ball - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
asciilifeform saw the world's officially largest crystal ball a few days ago
indiancandy1: can i ask something does the crystall ball thing actually work
mircea_popescu: yes he is, he just doesn't want to admit to the romanian yoke :D
mircea_popescu: well... one of the many ways
indiancandy1: does she give you bjs under the table
mircea_popescu: i'd rather do both of these well than mix them together into an unworkable porridge of shit.
mircea_popescu: people use them to what, pretend like they're outside while pretending like they're on the computer ?
mircea_popescu: i don't like them
kyuupichan: mircea_popescu: In east Washington state they have insanely cheap electricity; there is a lot of mining going on there
mircea_popescu: the ass is nice, that's true.
indiancandy1: and the chicks got fat ass
asciilifeform: indiancandy1: (when friends visit you, do you pay their fare?)
indiancandy1: his the billionair
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 the whole street's a party
asciilifeform: punkman: just one mystery remains - why do they need coin.
punkman: wonder if this is all the BTC wikileaks has now: https://blockchain.info/address/1HB5XMLmzFVj8ALj6mfBsbifRoD4miY36v
asciilifeform: better than the 1890s seven-shooter that preceded it, by most accounts
mircea_popescu: i dunno, they're god-awful
asciilifeform: more interesting (linked from above) - http://now100fm.cbslocal.com/2014/07/09/weird-news-wednesday-waitresses-wear-guns-in-restaurant << notice the stock pic - who the hell has a soviet 'TT' ?!
mircea_popescu: o hey the crowds are getting rowdy
mircea_popescu: hanbot good point re the bombs yeah
mircea_popescu: so basically it could either lose or win, maybe a lot, probably a little.
punkman: mircea_popescu: turns out I fucked up some math there, expected gain on pending bets is around 40%
mircea_popescu: Members: Tim "Kinnie" kingsworth - guitarist born to rock, tim has written many of bringers of darkness's best songs including "my love for you is swimming through the rapids like a broken arow" (Tim only plays Bingleworth guitars. Onstage, he plays a Bingleworth J-9000 7-string with a neo-chromium humbuckers. For recording, he uses a K-9001 with two single-coli pickups. He exclusively uses Krankle amplifiers and Czech
mircea_popescu: cury - we have the goods and we WILL deliver.
mircea_popescu: BRINGERS OF DARKNESS are revitalizing audiences with their raw energy live show and undeniable chemistry of brotherhood. They transcend a world that is locked in genre and commercialism; though they know they can't do it alone, they are the seeds of a revolution. The band has pitched their newest CD to Sony executives[, played in front of the likes of Henry Rallins, and the lead singer has sang onstage with Freddie Mir
hanbot: yeah. in the name of clutching at what they think they want, most people will put on some pretty ridiculous costumes.
hanbot: the publisher. casts a wide net, no anticipation of catching actual fish, just interested in a big mass of little bits.
mircea_popescu: holy shit man, why not just be on the ball and cut the deal when you have the chance ? why half ass that and then spend a month trying ? what sort of idiot came up with this strat i wish to know.
mircea_popescu: this has got to be the most idiotic publisher strat i ever encountered. so about a month ago, i shot an email to a medium sized network, for an ad spot. i got a reply from an acct manager, which was a little late and very half assed. i just dropped the thing. he sent me a couple "follow-up" emails later that week, which resulted in them being blacklisted.
mircea_popescu: if not they're not even trying.
mircea_popescu: there's gotta be a red card
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mircea_popescu: didn't they name one after a senator or something ?
asciilifeform: (or at least they were, last year...)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the real marvel is that itanics are still being produced.
benkay: someone's digitized it and trying to make a dime off the old man's corpse: www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/currency/2014/07/bill-gates-favorite-business-book.html
mircea_popescu: there were upstream considerations preventing it from working anyway
mircea_popescu: so it's one of those things old geezers tell you about, as their life turning point, over a game of checkers in central park. no, it wasn't : even if the thing they woe about would have worked their way
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what intel overestimated was the ability of microshit to shoehorn their turd into exotic cpu. turned out to be nil. (nt on alpha - never entirely worked. etc)
asciilifeform suspects that itanic was a 'lock-in play' - intel hoped that no one else could write a decent compiler for the chip. but what ended up happening was - for ages, gcc was the only working itanic toolchain...
mircea_popescu: well honestly, the wood airplane may well ahve becvome a big deal.
mircea_popescu: the 90s way to say "revolutionary and innovative"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it can - and was - be made to work, just that it was never clear to anyone wtf the point is.
mircea_popescu: logically, the compiler is in the best position to do this, because it can directly poll the bus.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the famous 'itanic' used an approach called 'vliw' - 'very long instruction word' - where the compiler was expected to fill up the pipeline manually, avoiding 'hazards' (instructions fighting over a resource, e.g. register or memory)
mircea_popescu: they could have just made jets.
mircea_popescu: ah, if only they had heard of urbit.
mircea_popescu: "The Itanium approach...was supposed to be so terrificuntil it turned out that the wished-for compilers were basically impossible to write."
mircea_popescu: kyuupichan: 3 wks ago in Seattle talking to a dude doing mining there; was downvolting all his machines because of summer heat generation << but you know seattle/the us is not really the center of mining.
mircea_popescu: dub hm, what do you hate about it ? that there's not really any "you lose 100%" ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell punkman: mike_c would be nice if WoL could track bets on GoWs, since I already have an account for the minigame << actually, it'd be prolly good to have a YOU: summary on either side of GoW as long as the person is actually logged in. in case they bought multiple bids etc.
mircea_popescu: ahh look at the short logs.
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asciilifeform: all but the cheapest embedded cpu
asciilifeform: artifexd: well, the classic 'elbrus' was pipelined.
artifexd: If that is a pipeline, wouldn't that be too long to be performant? I mean, one missed branch prediction and you have to flush the whole thing.
asciilifeform: if they can pull both this *and* decent x86 emulation << russian, chinese, martian CPUs will be interesting when - and not before - they swear off x86 emulation.
artifexd: If you listen to the world cup on the internet, odds are that it is flowing through my software.
hanbot: so what do you do with the wc?
artifexd: Makin' stuff. Then makin' it faster.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
hanbot: ;;later tell mike_c hey "There is an infinitesimal chance none of the numbers will be < 1,000,000. In this case the last group (bits 12 - 31) are used to find the location as follows:" would it not be better to just re-hash the hash and try again? and if it fails again, hash it again. infinitesimal is infinitesimal, but why even bother.
jurov: will be interesting to see if they can pull both this *and* decent x86 emulation
kyuupichan: Seems they don't have my hotel :(
kyuupichan: Sure, but I'm underweight fiat; would rather not spend it as not much left :)
cazalla: going through all the permutations though, sounds like this was obvious and prob better to use cc
kyuupichan: All I wanted to do was change a date. booking.com is far superior to expedia.com for that; you, uh, just change the date.
kyuupichan: Coordinating them and their payment processor (coinbase) was a PITA, particularly as I don't live in US so it was international phone calls. I'm not a fan of coinbase but to be honest they seemed to fix it, and they were the most helpful.
kyuupichan: Well they'd only just started taking BTC. Most of their sales reps had (still have) no clue. When asking about the refund, they said it'll be on credit card despite my having said half a dozen times I'd not used CC and paid with bitcoin. Clearly clueless.
cazalla: so what made cancellation a nightmare? they take btc but don't want to pay it back? fiat only refund?
kyuupichan: cazalla: Sure. Preference depends on circumstances. I'm overweight BTC; happy to drop a few now and then.
kyuupichan: I reckon I must be high on the Expedia list of bitcoin dudes using their service more than expected
kyuupichan: 3 wks ago in Seattle talking to a dude doing mining there; was downvolting all his machines because of summer heat generation
gribble: The operation succeeded.
punkman: ;;later tell mike_c would be nice if WoL could track bets on GoWs, since I already have an account for the minigame
mircea_popescu: this is the ultimate "bitcoin investor" cocaine tbh
punkman: dub, it's not about backing the winning team, you just have to buy cheaper than all the other mooks
dub: by backing the winning team. clearly
mircea_popescu: how the hell can you lose
mircea_popescu: it's like a large centrral panel with the current game and two smaller to the left, prev and next game
mircea_popescu: on the where ?
dub: try putting it on the gow page where one would go looking for it
assbot: War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!
dub: fwiw having a link ot the previous game might be nice
assbot: War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!
mircea_popescu: well there's no "win" per se.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: you mean the plan i just discussed in a public chan ?