mircea_popescu: In addition, the following individuals have been added to OFAC's SDN List: BESEDA, Sergey
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there was some design to make them stable-er than cesium and get rid of the cs standard entirely.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no idea about 'super', but these are ubiquitous in the radio industry.
mircea_popescu: btw, did they ever make that rubidium superclock thing ?
gribble: Rubidium standard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubidium_standard>; Atomic clock - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_clock>; Accubeat - Technology - Rubidium Atomic Clock Technology: <http://www.accubeat.com/apage/17540.php>
asciilifeform: unlike cesium clocks, these are inexpensive - radio stations in the civilized works are required to use them.
mircea_popescu: no two clocks work the same huh.
BigBitz: or it would be your machine badly timing the latency.
mircea_popescu: same exact model netcards. same firmware on the netcards.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consider how eminently used e coli are in the intestines of every mammal.
asciilifeform: the problem, in case anyone doesn't know, is presently dealt with through luck and brute force.
mircea_popescu: "the point about women not wanting to be used can only be appreciated by rapists". DOING IT WRONG
asciilifeform: short version - bacterium isn't a sled dog. he won't work if he doesn't 'want' to. (expressed in actual flesh as the formulation: the ones without the 'work' trait - e.g. secreting dope - tend to outperform their 'useful' peers in reproduction)
asciilifeform: the point about 'liveware generally doesn't wanna be used' can only be appreciated by folks who tried to breed industrially useful bacteria (e.g. e. coli secreting a saleable substance) - and the problems in that business
mircea_popescu: can anyone explain to me why would latency be ever so slightly more going one way through a wire than coming the oher way ? same identical endpoints.
asciilifeform: afaik he was flaming the hippies
mircea_popescu: anyway. someone "like us" as the author fills that symbol does not belong above ground anyway.
mircea_popescu: i dunno asciilifeform, i hear a lot of "please use me hard master" from some of the higher order "nature's computers".
asciilifeform: motorcycle is considerably less efficient, thermodynamically, than horse - but more popular for, imho, good reason...
asciilifeform: used. Machines aren't supposed to be like that. Machines are supposed to do what you want. Which means that both the designer and the user need to control them.' (one mr. kreinin, with whom i have a number of disagreements, some public, but good point about meatware. -- http://yosefk.com/blog/high-level-cpu-follow-up.html)
asciilifeform: 'I want to build machines to do stuff that someone "like us" wouldn't want to do, for any of the several reasons (the job is hard/boring/stinky/whatever). And once I've built them, I want people to be able to use them. Please note this last point. People and other "nature's computers", like animals and fungi, aren't supposed to be "used". In fact, all those systems spend a huge amount of resources to avoid being
mircea_popescu: for all of 2011-2013 i've been strictly ignoring alts, and look at all the time it's saved me!
mircea_popescu: and yeah, you can destroy them.
mircea_popescu: how about the entire fucking ocean floor is a mesh network of bacteria guys
mircea_popescu: decimation the better application seems self-building, self repairing connectivity.
assbot: Map of coins: the history of cryptocurrencies from bitcoin to dogecoin and more
mircea_popescu: "For instance, hundreds of thousands of bacteria can form daisy-chained "wires" an inch or so long, and tap seawater oxygen for energy. Such filaments can hold soil together and conduct electricity about as well as standard copper wire." << wow.
assbot: Map of coins: the history of cryptocurrencies from bitcoin to dogecoin and more
mircea_popescu: actually this may be a good thing to do for a blogger : make the altcoin history chart.
BingoBoingo: If I remember right CoiledCoin was the one Luke killed
BingoBoingo: In between namecoin and the Scrypt pre-mined anscestors of LTC there were a lot of other forgettable alts, many mergemined.
pankkake: either way: lies
pankkake: either*
asciilifeform: were there no alts prior to 'litecoin' ?
mircea_popescu: all the various altcoins of any description are scrypt.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the argument against merge mining atc has more to do with the value of having an actual sha competitor for bitcoin, which may well be very instructive
asciilifeform: dub: the bird in question is 'true penguin'
mircea_popescu: dub the old one.
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you mean... the (actual) penguin ?
asciilifeform: i imagine everyone who ever cracked a book is familiar with island ecosystems and their doomed flightless birds...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform time has compressed since then. their ability to hold out had a lot to do with the difficulty of seafaring then, and lack of satellites.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: thermodynamics concerns the inevitable, rather the immediate. e.g., the japanese prolonged holdout against gunpowder.
mircea_popescu: whatever you may think of the matter, bitcoin was never in the hands of THOSE 3 people.
mircea_popescu: this is the situation here.
mircea_popescu: modern science has not yet found a way to shove it back into the womb.
dub: bitcoin was in the hands of 3 people
dub: so right there, a 90% mining cabal
dub: the scary thing about lukes altbashing was that, at the time tycho and eutheria were cheerleading for him
mircea_popescu: compared to this, user derpage and luser derpage on -dev is about as relevant as fairies in the spring rain.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin has been enacted by the fiat of a few important people, a few years ago, exactly in the same manner. they weren't THAT important as a % of the world, but that doesn't matter : bitcoin can't be un-enacted by the fiat of much larger entities. it has a cost of x to make and 1mn x aren't enough to undo it.
mircea_popescu: this is the situation o nthe field : one has NO FUCKING CHOICE. this is how bitcoin works, and why it wins out.
mircea_popescu: that entity can either sell the coins it mines, in which case they end up with me, which is what i want anyway
dub: you dont want to look through that window either
mircea_popescu: so : atc is not driven by "user adoption". it's driven by the fact that i'm buying it. in this context, if "evil" entity decides to just mine all the blocks, nobody gives a shit. so txn aren't included ? whatever.
mircea_popescu: well unless mod6 fucked up the math.
mircea_popescu: 03-07-2014 01:50:42 <atcbot> [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.02 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 14243.64 GH/s << this is the peak this month.
dub: you sure? at a glance the diff doesnt look right
mircea_popescu: dub but there's ALREADY 5 th on board, and these are atc dedicated, they're not merge mining.
mircea_popescu: if atc mms the hash will prolly go to 1ph anyway.
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.00 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 5152.05 GH/s
mircea_popescu: where's the problem ?
dub: with iocoin (maybe ix too) he just mined the longest chain and didnt include any transactions
thickasthieves: <+benkay> thickasthieves: is atc a merge-mine thing? /// no, but i think it could be, and if it is, i might be willing to put some funds towards the dev, but no one wants my money so far
dub: there was
benkay: is there a hashpower command?
mthreat: mircea_popescu: there's a bitcoin meetup wednesday, at a local bar that accepts btc for drinks: http://www.meetup.com/Bitcoin-Argentina/events/195793132/
dub: week since the last update
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mircea_popescu: http://www.theonion.com/articles/openminded-man-grimly-realizes-how-much-life-hes-w,19273/ << the end of fucking days, when the parody sites are more truthful than the "serious" networks.
mircea_popescu: FabianB he said he's travelling and the bot croaked, can't touch till he's back
BingoBoingo: I don't rally think the Fairly comments on Bitbet really hurt BitBet at all http://bitbet.us/bet/519/btc-network-difficulty-to-top-1b-before-2014/#c2048
Fairlay: I guess we are addressing more the new user that have never heard of WOT - since the old seems to be happy with bitbet
mircea_popescu: Fairlay you know, it may be a good idea to get in the wot.
mircea_popescu: convenience is half the tool.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nsa-sponsored attempt to survive << they won't really worry until wintel stops being a thing.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I haven't read the comments yet, but I wonder how many read it as a proposal for linux developments as opposed to IBM advertorial
mircea_popescu: decimation here's more. sha1 is implemented as "sha1sum". sha256 however is implemented as "sha256". then sha512 is... "sha512sum"
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves i don't follow, so did the coupons yield boxes or not ?
BingoBoingo: do you read this thing like i do, ie, a nsa-sponsored attempt to survive the "everyone has cardano rng on board" apocalypse by making good entropy sources still circumventable ? << I read either that or some kernel afficianado who would buy a unix pacemaker
thickasthieves: lol, so my wife has been buying these cat litter coupons on ebay for mos, free box, any size
nubbins`: thestringpuller: blonde-dyed mullet kid with a skateboard making 40 tapes for his band
mircea_popescu: sciilifeform do you read this thing like i do, ie, a nsa-sponsored attempt to survive the "everyone has cardano rng on board" apocalypse by making good entropy sources still circumventable ?
mircea_popescu: Dropping out the egd support made me puzzled for a moment, but then I realized that there is no point in using egd to feed the randomness to the process, you just need to feed entropy to the kernel, and let the process get it normally. I have had, unfortunately, quite a bit of experience with entropy-generating daemons, and I wonder if this might be the right time to suggest getting a new multi-source daemon out." << a
mircea_popescu: "I actually have been thrilled to see that finally there is movement to replace the straight access to /dev/random and /dev/urandom: Ted's patch to implement a getrandom() system call that can be made compatible with OpenBSD's own getentropy() in user space. And even more I'm happy to see that at least one of the OpenBSD/LibreSSL developers pitching in to help shape the interface.
thestringpuller: nubbins`: so are you gonna sell him the album cover rights?
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fluffypony: or the Usagi Backup System
sheldonthomas: i know man. i had reviews from trades in 2011 with people like justmoon and then i lost that harddrive and thus that wot identity
mthreat: it's ok, your other identity will admit it for you
decimation: I would note that Mr. Wolfram & co. are slowly migrating Mathmatica to be "pay us to use Wolfram Alpha in the cloud"
decimation: re: scp/ssh user interface << Herr Moldbug's rant on this topic is apropos: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2009/07/wolfram-alpha-and-hubristic-user.html "The error is that control interfaces must not be intelligent. Briefly, intelligent user interfaces should be limited to applications in which the user does not expect to control the behavior of the product. If the product is used as a tool, its interface should be as
fluffypony: third seat from the left?
sheldonthomas: not really. i occasionally linger on assets. maybe we met back at the bruce wager bitcoin conference. i sat in the 2nd row
mircea_popescu: obviously if one applied the same standards to quarks as it does to bitcoins, one could never trust the fucking quark. obviously quark-nsa is behind it.
mircea_popescu: decimation a ok, then yes, pure determinism.
mircea_popescu: <thickasthieves> "The U.S. government is rapidly expanding the number of names it accepts for inclusion on its terrorist watch list, with more than 1.5 million added in the last five years, according to numbers divulged by the government in a civil lawsuit." << hey asciilifeform look at that! what was gulag, 50mn ?
decimation: I guess I was picturing "determinism" as "God sets the outcome of the quark-dicerolls in the way He sees fit"
mircea_popescu: new mpex key, but otherwise nothing much.
sheldonthomas: what’s to be expected when you finish the migration? everything back in place, accounts and the like?
mircea_popescu: sheldonthomas anyway, that was then. meanwhile a lot of progress'been made (notices of which scattered all over the log), and we're coming out of da woods.
mircea_popescu: basically god is just this very large dice assemblage in non-space, feeding all the quarks dicerolls.
mircea_popescu: no, the contrary. in the quest to make determinism infeasible, it requires some sort of entropy reservoir outside-the-world.
mircea_popescu: it may not be as accessible now, but it's there.
mircea_popescu: one of the core (if unknown) principles underscoring all creation is that the qty of entropy in a system remains the same if it's cut in half.
decimation: turn the screwdriver clockwise screw turns, turn it counterclockwise and it explodes
mircea_popescu: decimation just... why the fuck you know ? WHY!11
fluffypony: the Argentinians are rough
fluffypony: I believe they're about to start waterboarding him
fluffypony: the owner was arrested and deported to Argentina
benkay: curse of emacs - it can behave any way you want it to, provided you put the time in to make it so.
BingoBoingo: benkay: For a thing that updates weekly it seems the optimum haw to handle feed generation
benkay: i've not customized this irc client to both show those things but not display notifications for them
decimation: re: headphone "muffs": I used these sometimes in the office: http://support.radioshack.com/support_electronics/doc67/67054.htm (330-1198)
asciilifeform: decimation: the real lesson (which always seemed rather obvious to me, but what the hell) is that the numbers are uninteresting except in so far as they shed light on the mechanics of the source
decimation: although, the first practical test of any source of random numbers is to get a large quantity of them and see if there are any repeats
thickasthieves: "The U.S. government is rapidly expanding the number of names it accepts for inclusion on its terrorist watch list, with more than 1.5 million added in the last five years, according to numbers divulged by the government in a civil lawsuit."
asciilifeform: decimation: if you had an infinitely large pot, you could tip it over and drown the enemy.
decimation: it seems to me that if you had an infinitely large pot, you could tell whether the numbers were random or not
decimation: I was thinking about the "poisoned soup" model of determining the "randomness" of some numbers
asciilifeform: but there is virtually never any good reason to attempt it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there are published recipes for this. see 'multi-party computation' literature.
mircea_popescu: "have a 4096 rsa key made out of 8 parts! it may not be as strong as the proper key, but that's good : if you forget your passphrase you can break the key and retreive your stuff!"
asciilifeform: sounds like the ideal cat. deserves a respectable name.
BingoBoingo: The FOundation guy
mircea_popescu: maybe one day a woman does the same.
Namworld: So I wonder what kind of sorcery this is. Then I notice a service panel to pipes slightly opened. That fucker was opening the cabinet under the sink, crawled into the walls with the pipes and made it's way to the room.
mircea_popescu: so you know... stop misrepresenting the swastika as something bad just to serve your need to scapegoat imagery.
mircea_popescu: "Dont depict the Magen David (Star of David) as an equivalent to the Nazi swastika. The Magen David represents all Jewsnot just Israelis, not just people who are violent against Palestinians, ALL JEWS. When you do this, you are painting all Jews as violent, genocidal racists. DONT." << and for that matter, the swastika represented all germans, not just the ones involved in homicide.
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BingoBoingo: Pierre_Rochard: There's a lot of small shit schools getting on the doctoral train trying to escape their regional labels, so it is best not to use bachelor+masters as a measure. That and there are Bachelors (sometimes + masters) schools that are better candidates for escaping regionalness than some shitholes like Ohio State.
Namworld: So I have this cat I just adopted. He's always following me around and tend to lay down at my feet. Won't let me sleep, walking on me and trying to get under the sheets. So I close the door to the bedroom. Then shortly later, I hear the cat and look. He's inside the room playing. I think wtf, must have slipt back in while I was closing the door. I go put him out, close the door, go back
mircea_popescu: "Dont call Jews you agree with the good Jews. Imposing your values on another group is not okay. Tokenizing is not okay. Appointing yourself the judge of what other groups can or should believe is not okay." << omfg. this is about as offensive as it gets.
Pierre_Rochard: BingoBoingo: I guess we’re just using different definitions of “regional”, the one that’s “bachelor + master” is more commonly used
mircea_popescu: ima end up persecuting fucking jews as the initiators of this "vocal minority trying to opress majority" meme.
mircea_popescu: this is the most preposterous shit i ever read. hey, fifty million jewish people ? about a billion people happen to not give a shit. this is how it should be.
mircea_popescu: http://this-is-not-jewish.tumblr.com/post/34344324495/how-to-criticize-israel-without-being-anti-semitic <<< ahahah, "don't use what happens to be the largest, oldest and generally speaking most important european meme, because it may butthurt jooz"
BingoBoingo: Pierre_Rochard: Regionalness is an attribute that can feature differently on Aspects of a University. Consider a school in the opposite situation, Texas Tech. National University in athletics and very regional school academically.
BingoBoingo: Rather small for a college football stadium
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mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard so basically it's the georgia tech stadium ?
Pierre_Rochard: Eh, they are in NCAA Division I.
BingoBoingo: Pierre_Rochard: It seems that list strengthens the case of it as a regional school when it comes to Athletics.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://youtu.be/rR56uNg2XQs?t=2m43s << finally found the ancient cartoon with the schooltard who zaps all of history so he doesn't have to pass exam.
BingoBoingo: Right, or an AT&T or another sophisticated herder of consumer cattle
BingoBoingo: Also not there aren't very many "Halliburton Stadiums" because the contractors that abide know lean years are possible
mircea_popescu: thanks to all the inflation, they're safe : they didn't have that much to spend anyway. i doubt anything under 1bn even registers anymore, especially after the great successes of govt contractors in the mideast.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: For sure. With one of these discovering how much was spent will be a hard problem unless they just let the number slip.
mircea_popescu: this is the package maintainer's path to divinity : prevent all the f-students, masquerading as women-interest, "general public" interest etfuckingc from breaking math.
asciilifeform: it's a good job that f-students can't actually break mathematics.
mircea_popescu: yup, the old story of 4.
asciilifeform: later found that in the original fortran, one could assign... to a constant.
mircea_popescu: moreover, you trying to sell my king a device to harden the fortress against perpetuum mobile which relies on the 1st law of thermo will get me to advise him to hang you.
mircea_popescu: simply because 5 is the new 9.
mircea_popescu: the day false evaluates to true, you're nine feet tall
asciilifeform: i sorta get the flavour here. perpetuum mobile, were it build, could perhaps also cure baldness.
mircea_popescu: but feynman's hypothetical is not wholly self-contained.
asciilifeform: let's put it slightly differently. if it's also a chronoscope, this cannot be readily inferred from feynman's hypothetical.
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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to be fair, the machine (as described originally by r. feynman) doesn't divine history a la asimov's 'chronoscope', but merely computes certain classes of function unusually cheaply.
mircea_popescu: all these people derping about "quantum-computing-strong hashes" and whatnot are starting to get on my motherfucking nerves. yo idiots! are you aware that every rng out there actually uses some sort of quantum noise ? WHAT THE FUCK ARE HASHES GOING TO DO WHEN I KNOW ALL THE SEEDS!
benkay: <thestringpuller> ugh, I guess I'm moving to France. // oh ffs really?
benkay: <fluffypony> an Oculus Rift, or the entire research lab they have? // i can't wait for the full-wraparound displays with lots and lots of pixels
mircea_popescu: these people can make a feast out of anything.
benkay: <mircea_popescu> maybe i visit after the fall. play fallout in new reno irl or some4thing. // empire collapse when
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mircea_popescu: is it the day of the married man's secret homosexual friend ? like "jour de la chere amie" would be in france ?
mircea_popescu: fucking lexington is still a joke, and you're going to be a joke for going there. not just in my eyes, which whatever, who cares, but in your own 60yo eyes. and that burns.
mircea_popescu: and even if parents would much prefer their 17 yo rebelious teenager goes to the flaming man instead of the burning man, and even if they give the car with a full tank of gasoline and two small bottles of ginger ale for the former and punish the latter,
mircea_popescu: it's still shit, in the manner the local fair in lexington, kentucky, even if called "the flaming man", is still a very poor approximation of the actual burning man.
mircea_popescu: you've bought into the entire sm swag just like other generations have bought in the shit offered for their consumption. guess what : the fact that you all get it only hides the fact that it's shit from you yourselves,
mircea_popescu: it'd read "cern laboratory using social media to collide large hadrons" if the movie of the week were about the cern
mircea_popescu: chetty gotta love how the sm people keep pumping out more articles about how essential sm is.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: why they stopped making them << ft meade's shipments of diddled ARM micros held up. budget blown on coke.
mircea_popescu: the better news here is that while i tried to sleep my cold off people actually got to the bottom of the whole gpg snag. hallelujah.
asciilifeform: linked from above - the old, familiar http://www.entropykey.co.uk << still sold out, no date for next shipment (1 year + now!)
mircea_popescu: i have no idea who fucking asked amazon fanboi there to pass his judgement on de raadt, but i can state for teh records it wasn't me.
asciilifeform: 'ubuntu: turns out is actually windows vista with a few custom themes.'
mircea_popescu: pankkake https://blog.flameeyes.eu/2014/07/libressl-is-taking-a-beating-and-that-s-good << all i see is more of the same, "fucktards are butthurt, how dares anyone upset the statu quo"
xmj: the profile page on twitter
xmj: AWS/Rackspace/etc do the whole CaaS thing anyway
xmj: oh, i mean the four-letter-marketing-combination
nubbins`: (clickbait headline but amusing nonetheless)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/big-numbers-random-numbers-and-whos-got-your-number/ << 'random-looking number' is reminiscent of the 'miasma theory' of disease causation. in fact, much of what presently passes for 'seekoority' is quite like miasma epidemiology. crock of shit, resulting not only from inability, but from unwillingness to to even contemplate cause-effect.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: '...died from an infection in 2010... << the rate at which these people die of preventable causes is ridiculous' << quite likely, that fellow really died of - sleep deprivation. compromised immune system. and yes, one wouldn't expect an actual 'master of the universe' to succumb to sleep deprivation. senior bureaucrats, on the other hand - sure.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: actually i never had any problems with one-off noise (e.g. keys). because when i'm thinking i scarcely touch the keys.
asciilifeform: i don't really see all of this as adding up to a solvable engineering problem, but catch myself thinking about it now and then anyway.
asciilifeform: the hot air one exhales still has to go somewhere.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i've thought about building something like the 'cockpits' flight simulator players are fond of. chair with display in a 'canopy.' but it would need its own cooling setup...
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i would, in principle, care, if it were possible to eliminate all other fan noise
asciilifeform: (the very shoddiest dwellings still have window air conditioners)
nubbins`: we have climate of a different sort here, to the point where i can't recall ever seeing an air conditioning unit in a private home. at the risk of asking a silly question, could one have the unit outside the room and vent the cool air in?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: we also have climate here. without forced air cooling, machines will die (of humidity) even before the owner succumbs.
nubbins`: i have a friend who can play drums in his bedroom with the door closed and you can barely make out the beat
nubbins`: not prohibitively expensive. musicians do it all the time
nubbins`: you could always build a soundproof room and put the fans outside it
asciilifeform: where the noise is something like a point source, plenty of soft fabric to cancel echos, etc.
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nubbins`: iirc some high-end car manufacturer did this with the sound system
nubbins`: standalone (speakers rather than earphones) noise cancellation system?
nubbins`: pascale uses the standard orange squeezey ~30dB ones
nubbins`: although they're more geared towards muting w/ a flat frequency curve than blocking out all sound
nubbins`: there's also these earplugs that some drummers use, they mold to fit your outer ear like an old-school hearing aid
nubbins`: muffs would be the ideal solution
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thickasthieves: "Since there is no way anybody will mine on a pool with those requirements, it means that any pool in the US will be forced to shut down, or operate illegally and hope they're ignored."
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thickasthieves: I have more expensive ones and i dont really like them as much
thickasthieves: I use the JVCs for going on walks and such, and the ATs for making music and while flying
thickasthieves: the headphones really weren't designed for the velvet pads and the sound becomes obviously worse to any ear
thickasthieves: mike_c dont get the velvet m50 pads!
thickasthieves: mike_c for even more value for the price, and less heavy: http://www.amazon.com/JVC-Head-band-Headphones-HA-S500-Z-Gunmetallic/dp/B008FWB9XW these won't block outside noise as much though
thickasthieves: <+cazalla> i love my m50s /// mike_c those are the best in that price range imo
empyex: FabianB: Proxies: ".. running a final swathe of test-all-the-edge-cases .. mpex should be back this weekend. also fabian is pretty cool." MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine (change: $proxies <newlist>)
Vexual: if datatank get sucessuful they will be dumping hardware onto hobbyists on a regular basis
fluffypony: but smaller than a standard rack since it doesn't need all the extra fluff on the sides and back
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bifter | Bifter. A slang term given to the lumps of rock found on ski slopes that need to be "De-Bifterd" in order to remove them. "Watch out James, there's a bifter on the ...
Vexual: tell the judge its for virtual reality
xmj: is valve still scheduled to release a steambox that'll eventually make 2014/2015/whenever they release it/ the year of linux on the "desktop" ? :)