mircea_popescu: ;;sell 5000 "ethereum coins deliverable March 15th, 2015" 1 BTC "Up to 1k BTC's worth accepted. Get in touch."
gribble: #21134 Tue Jul 22 18:54:18 2014 mircea_popescu SELL 5000.0 ethereum coins deliverable March 15th, 2014 @ 1 BTC (Up to 1k BTC's worth accepted. Get in touch.)
mircea_popescu: ;;sell 5000 "ethereum coins deliverable March 15th, 2014" 1 BTC "Up to 1k BTC's worth accepted. Get in touch."
gribble: #21133 Tue Jul 22 18:53:45 2014 mircea_popescu SELL 5000.0 ethereum coins deliverable March 15th, 2014 @ 1 BTC. (None)
mircea_popescu: ;;sell 5000 "ethereum coins deliverable March 15th, 2014" 1 BTC.
mircea_popescu: ;;sell 5000 "ethereum coins deliverable March 15th, 2014" for 1 BTC.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Their home page.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Of course. K sale ends in roughly 41-42 days, in just under two weeks their offering goes from 2000 per BTC to 1970 per BTC (fucking hippies)
thickasthieves: lol why does their home page give away desktop backgrounds? wtf
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well atm during their pre-sale they price their coins off of a timer, with 1 BTC buying less coins as the timer increments. Haven't seen the details.
thickasthieves: you're betting on ethereum?!
BingoBoingo: If ethereum manages to ship this winter I doubt it's market cap will survive at a size greater than ATC's through April next year
mircea_popescu: then we can do science. and actual art.
mircea_popescu: how about not accept funding for bureaucrats because there's no funds in bureaucrat hands ?
thickasthieves: who actually wants these smart contracts anyway? i dont get who ethereum is providing for
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not an argument 'pro', merely statement of fact. accept funding from bureaucrats - then eat shit when they command. elementary.
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard too many people want to appear mp without putting in the work to actually be mp, nor fronting the risk etc.
BingoBoingo: Pierre_Rochard: Even though by simply the way things are they seems to like BFL be actually selling equity rather than product.
thickasthieves: like anyone will give a shit by then
BingoBoingo: "People interested in acquiring ether to build and distribute decentralized applications, or to pay for their usage, are able to do so in the Genesis Sale using bitcoin, thereby locking-in their supply at a known price. This sale will help us fund the continued development of the software platform, scheduled for release in the winter of 2014/2015." << Preorder on a BFL window. Thing could waterialize winter 2014 or winter 2015
assbot: ethereum
asciilifeform: carnegie mellon << 'Silicon Valley, unlike their Victorian forebears, do not realize that, if they want all this science, they will actually have to pay for it - themselves. Instead, they look at their tax forms and think: I gave at the office. But they didn't. They gave to scientocracy. Now, they need to figure out how to patronize science - or there will be no science. Just scientific Bondo, sanded to perfecti
mircea_popescu: the visual effect tho.
assbot: The Joel on Software Discussion Group (CLOSED) - Why I Hate Frameworks
mircea_popescu: http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.219431 << as usual, joel gets it exactly right. this is why i hate - not frameworks - but java. and all the other hipster languages ran by children with delusions of skills and importance they don't actually have.
mircea_popescu: bout the same yeah.
thickasthieves: there was that 5 strikes thing or whatever but i never heard of anyone losing their web access
thickasthieves: do they even go after people in US anymore?
mircea_popescu: "Starting in 2015, persistent file-sharers will be sent four warning letters explaining their actions are illegal, but if the notes are ignored no further action will be taken." doh.
mircea_popescu: if it were about eating cunt i could see the angle.
thickasthieves: "Another benefit to Tacocoin is its active community. Tacocoin was started on reddit, with the sole intent of having fun. The coin has no premine, and steady growth, because our community values trust and fun, not getting rich quick."
mircea_popescu: i gloat over fat fucks being predictably stupid, not over the deck being stacked against them.
gribble: You rated user gmaxwell on Sun Apr 8 12:54:19 2012, with a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: hypocritical idiot..
mircea_popescu: the notion that the current crop has any sort of moral or ethical weight is quite perilous.
mircea_popescu: A Black Hat spokeswoman told Reuters that the talk had been canceled at the request of lawyers for Carnegie-Mellon University, where the speakers work as researchers. <<< this is why scientists of today are in no sense the scientists of 1914, and even less the scientists of 1814.
assbot: Well find a new earth within 20 years | Around the World with Ken Ham
mircea_popescu: ^ my fav exercise is, "calculate the pound weight of a cubic mile of water"
BingoBoingo: http://blog.bitpay.com/2014/07/22/bitcore-3000-is-three-times-faster-for-bitcoin-on-the-web.html
BingoBoingo: Bitcore, BitPays open-source javascript bitcoin library, now uses Fedor Indutnys highly optimized cryptography in the browser, which leads to significant speed improvements and an improved user experience for applications built with Bitcore. << Shit's prolly being optimized out
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Well, that's why the most important part of reading a WoT is asking a rater about their ratings
BingoBoingo: Mircea generally writes on the interwebs so you can always zoom his text to any size you like
jurov: <gmaxwell> danielpbarron: owner of mpex is unsafe to do business with, he does things like put surprising terms in the fine print of his contracts and then gloats about how you deserved to get ripped off and what a moron you are when you get caught out.
assbot: The Joel on Software Discussion Group (CLOSED) - Why I Hate Frameworks
thickasthieves: my wife wants to look at trees n stuff though, so i guess good weather is for the best
mike_c: now is actually the time to go. it actually only rains nine months a year. summers are beautiful.
thickasthieves: <+mike_c> and seattle just drizzles at you every day of the year. /// so i will fly there and settle this once and for all!
thickasthieves: "Dude, they called you elfin, when you are very clearly a satyr." lol
thickasthieves: "The federal judge that presided over my case is not an African-American. She is a nigger."
BingoBoingo: Hey @Medium @marklotto @davidkushner, I have some corrections for your article. https://medium.com/matter/the-martyrdom-of-weev-9e72da8a133d
assbot: Schoolboy Q - The Purge / Rapfix Cypher (20syl Remix) - YouTube
mike_c: and seattle just drizzles at you every day of the year.
thickasthieves: the thing is FL clouds are quite temporary
Mats_cd03: i don't know anything about physics or solar panels. is there some kind of limited power generation even under cloud cover? UV is what made me consider this
thickasthieves: “I think in the state of Florida our challenge is the amount of rainfall and the amount of cloud coverage we have,” says Martinez. “Obviously Florida has good potential. It’s not great potential.”
thickasthieves: “We’re not doing as bad as people think we are,” says Martinez. “But I think we’ll have an opportunity to advance as the price continues to come down.”
thickasthieves: Florida Power and Light powers the state using mostly natural gas. Out of all the energy FPL provides, only 0.06 percent comes from solar energy.
asciilifeform: Mats_cd03: nice little book, at least concerning the basics.
Mats_cd03: man, The Rootkit Arsenal is really good
assbot: FAA temporarily halts all US flights to Israel | The Verge
thickasthieves: http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/22/5927107/faa-temporarily-halts-all-us-flights-to-israel
Mats_cd03: and, there is an ACPI table exclusively for telling Windows not to apply fixes for buggy hardware because its in a VM, and VMM emulation of the hardware doesn't include said bugs.
Mats_cd03: today, i learned Windows will never use the first mb of physical memory for anything, because buggy firmware corrupts it so often
Mats_cd03: http://weis2007.econinfosec.org/papers/29.pdf re: market for 0days. notably, all of the problems enscribed are basically resolvable through GPG and the WoT.
assbot: Wheels of Fortune - The New Yorker
assbot: Well find a new earth within 20 years | Around the World with Ken Ham
FabianB: use the metric system, [√] fixed
mircea_popescu: imagine all the bills of goods that had either a small smidgeon added or removed by accident
mircea_popescu: you know upon reflection, the ' " convention has to be the most stupid thing ever invented. on top of the inch/feet thing in the first place, obviously.
thickasthieves: local newspaper: "the specs are 10.625” w x 10’ t."
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves walk with your back against the wall in seattle. nuff said.
nubbins`: i'm not even sure this is the right bus
nubbins`: we don't sew, but i suppose an all-over print isn't out of the question
mircea_popescu: benkay so why you tellin me about it ? nubsy's the local master of bad drawings and well printed shirts.
benkay: <mircea_popescu> bitbet. giving the bitcoin population the sort of graphs it wants to see. since 2012. // i want a shirt that has a bunch of zig-zaggy up-and-to-the-right arrows patterned across it
mircea_popescu: he is the exact central case that benefits from a rec corp.
thickasthieves: NFLX down 5% today :) glad I hung in there
fluffypony: so hopefully the stuff he releases after this will be indie and not with a record company
mircea_popescu: guy's like the madonna of b music
fluffypony: although the music video for Tacky is amazing
mircea_popescu: but i tell you by the time you're a decade or so in business that itch's well scratched.
mircea_popescu: i mean everyone gets as a kid this urge to write their name on things,
mircea_popescu: and the people here actually do signing, like fucking romanians.
mircea_popescu: with their wife.
thickasthieves: First you ignore them, then you laugh at them, then they call you mean, then you win
mircea_popescu: especially the "hands draw as we sing" expansion of stephen fry's "text appears" trick
thickasthieves: "Do you think that smart contracts won't work or that they won't be used? Could you recommend any research that supports your views?"
fluffypony: the coming revolution where he's left behind
mircea_popescu: o look at that! i've comisioned paintings that cost like 20% of the "most expensive bitcoin painting ever made". har har.
mircea_popescu: punkman: this is quite common: if C trusts the B->A connection, but A doesn't trust B->C, then C will often "send first" as to eliminate risk for A at his expense. << https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=359006.msg4858300#msg4858300 that concept illustrated.
mircea_popescu: it is good to be the joo.
mircea_popescu: think : most people will live their entire lives without ever having such a fat wallet
mircea_popescu: THIS IS THE LIFE OF JEW!
mircea_popescu: soo... i just found a wallet i had forgotten all about. like 20 btcv and change in there.
thickasthieves: pineapple jooz are the ones with big dix
mircea_popescu: i r nao decode fluffypony's hermetic speech. orange jews are what, manhattanites, because they overtan. and banana jews are jews pretending to be azn to get into stanford. pineapple jews however i dunno!
thickasthieves: you'd think the tech news rag would have a lcue
thickasthieves: on the open market is irrelevant, as all currencies (evne a fiat currency) are subject to the market's whims."
thickasthieves: pando: @Bitcoin_Assets "If you're going to make a statement like that, you really should back it up by pointing out what I said wrong. Mining difficulty? Anyone with a PC can mine bitcoin. The amount that can be created per CPU cycle is arbitrarily set by an algorithm (sounds like fiat), and not the state, but it still has no intrinsic value, just like dollars. The value it fetches
benkay: satoshi is ancient aliens and the first saint is zappa?
benkay: princessnell: it's a setup for another zappa reference.
benkay: ("with leather?")
mircea_popescu: and he even mentions romanian thighs. which, yes... romanian chicks have the best thighs.
benkay: me, i like the shiksas
princessnell: i don't pass turing tests, i conduct them
mircea_popescu: THE HERESIES THIS MORNING
mircea_popescu: princessnell> this is true. but they are still fun. << wait, wut ? you dare speak of like your sexual experience ? as a woman among men ? on the interwebs ?
fluffypony: bitstein: has she passed the Turing test?
davout: cazalla: hah you did the 23andme thing
mircea_popescu: pankkake you used the jew up ?
princessnell: i'm 0.1% of the tribe
benkay: no one expects the bitcoin inquisition
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves given that by now your ancestry has covered half the world, i
princessnell: this is true. but they are still fun.
thickasthieves: my ancient ancestors were jews i think, then they changed their names food and went to the azores or sumth
davout: pankkake: you rubbed the lamp?
mircea_popescu: well actually, since i got all the internet jews collected here, prepare to BURN!!!
gribble: The nigger, a practical exercise. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2014/the-nigger-a-practical-exercise/>; Fried chicken pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2013/fried-chicken/>
mircea_popescu: pankkake they don't have to be lying. they could just be stupid. or you know, trained into superficial stupidity by a website dedicated to doing exactly that
gribble: The nigger homeowners and other niggers pe Trilema - Un blog de ...: <http://trilema.com/2012/the-nigger-homeowners-and-other-niggers/>; The nigger, a practical exercise. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2014/the-nigger-a-practical-exercise/>; Fried chicken pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2013/fried-chicken/>
thickasthieves: it's like the black lady nigger story
pankkake: that's why there is no reason to cater to that
pankkake: it's just bad faith, the article is praising hoarding which is the jew stereotype; the image is a popular meme; it's an obvious joke and anyone claiming to be offended is lying
thickasthieves: bitstein have you considered plastic surgery and behavioral therapy?
bitstein: I really don't appreciate how the Reddit community is judging me by the size of my nose, the length of my beard, and the wringing of my hands.
pankkake: I mean, of them
BingoBoingo: Is this the pankkake approved TF drama? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702654.0
mircea_popescu: omfg the queen is jewish ?!
Pierre_Rochard: mircea_popescu: yes, it’s a deep cover psyop run by the rothschilds and queen of england
mircea_popescu: pankkake it's actually an economically positive activity : you know and can evaluate the risk, so you're risking say 1% of 1.3 btc, or 1 bitcent.
pankkake: eh, that's was on my mind. there are some people (they're not in the wot though) I would gladly cover for
Pierre_Rochard: mircea_popescu: redditors and buttcoiners get offended by the last image on this article http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/im-hoarding-bitcoins-and-no-you-cant-have-any/
mircea_popescu: the breadth & width of deals and representations available is endless.
mircea_popescu: punkman: I'd rephrase that, WoT is an avenue where you do due dilligence. You trust MP enough, you can stop your search after getting the "go-ahead" from MP << for that matter mp can even say something like "o, forget it, if he's gypping you for 1.3 BTC I"M paying for it."
pankkake: TF isn't claiming he's a Trusted Member yet, otherwise it's textbook goat
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: if this was twitter I'd hashtag that with #delusional << is the tradefortress character pulling a goat ?
cazalla: sure np, 1:30am here though, i'll be back in the morning
mircea_popescu: chetty wait, what trachery is this ? first govt cuts a deal with states then federal courts get it off the hook for its part of the deal ?
chetty: A U.S. appeals court has struck down subsidies for health insurance under the Affordable Care Act in states that use federal marketplaces to buy coverage.
mircea_popescu: well... it did outlive the beatles' popularity...
mircea_popescu: chetty: perhaps I should have said, shouldn't be. people do manage all sorts of stupids << dun worry about it. the fuckwit has found the perfect palliative to learning how things that work work, and the submission and ego wound implicit in such learning : he's going to CREATE something that's BETTER.
nubbins`: guy with the hammer is wearing rubber boots
nubbins`: anyway, you can't really make it out, but pascale's dad is second from the right in that painting
nubbins`: mircea_popescu honestly i was worried it'd look like "NOO" instead of "ZOO" if i separated the Os
mircea_popescu: this progress thing's really working, no wonder the earth is warming.
nubbins`: this is set in an old newfoundland stagehouse, there's cod drying in the rafters and all kinds of old newfy stuff everywhere
mircea_popescu: chetty that's an even cheaper copy of the cheap copy.
chetty: mircea_popescu, a cheap, affordable copy that misses all the details which made it worth the while//I thought that was modern china
mircea_popescu: nubbins` imo the o's touching is bad, but what do i know.
mircea_popescu: (and yes the raphael is unsurpassed, mostly because the christian church stands with learned antiquity roughly in the position american contemporaneity stands with the learned europe of last century. a cheap, affordable copy that misses all the details which made it worth the while)
mircea_popescu: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/Giampietrino-Last-Supper-ca-1520.jpg << compare to the sweet, sweet sweetness of giampetrino's original, or with the raphael they were both trying to copy : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/Sanzio_01.jpg
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
mircea_popescu: but mostly because the fundamental problem the "painter" has with his craft manifests not only in the "people" giving the wrong vibe, but the whole scene having the wrong atmosphere. that room looks to me like an apartment building in the poor section of petrograd having an amphetamine fueled dream about itself.
mircea_popescu: jurov http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/The-Bitcoin-Supper.jpg << that shit's unmitigatedly ugly
thickasthieves: <+mircea_popescu> someone or the other had introduced this option to "copy" other trader's strategy /// PAMM
xmj: within the trust game you just need to deposit enough money with the trust escrow to make the other party likely of investing. you'll obtain efficient outcomes.
punkman: this is quite common: if C trusts the B->A connection, but A doesn't trust B->C, then C will often "send first" as to eliminate risk for A at his expense.
punkman: if the due diligence doesn't get you anywhere, then you still have other tools. The fidelity bond is a good one, insurance another... any other good examples?
fluffypony: chetty: yeah, it depends on the type of transaction as well
punkman: or you can keep going, look in other WoTs, public records, etc
punkman: I'd rephrase that, WoT is an avenue where you do due dilligence. You trust MP enough, you can stop your search after getting the "go-ahead" from MP
punkman: chetty, the answer is both, but if the trust connections are good enough, you could skip the due dilligence
xmj: i did not know escrow was the term i was looking for
pankkake: "You seem to be unaware that CoinLenders and Inputs are independent. They've always quite clearly stated that there are no warranties of any kind for coins stored there, as such I do not owe you your claimed amount"
xmj: sure, that's from the perspective of A. think of it from B's perspective!
punkman: that doesn't create trust where there is none
xmj: A tells me they trust B, which makes me trust B through A's proxying (conditional on my estimation of A)
cazalla: well if it isn't the merchant meme teasing redditor Pierre_Rochard
punkman: because you like the idea?
assbot: The Human Face of Game Theory: Trust and Reciprocity in Sequential Games by Catherine C. Eckel, Rick K. Wilson :: SSRN
xmj: Science to the rescue.
chetty: (btw this is a discussion worth having imo, just in case there is a solution)
chetty: thing is blind trust gets folks in trouble all the time, how many people thought Gox was ok because everybody is using it?
xmj: delegation isn't the part that interests me
chetty: xmj: it does seem like in non-formal contexts iterative interaction history is the common way xmj: there has to be a better deal// seriously trust is pretty much a function that can not be delegated
xmj: there has to be a better deal.
xmj: it does seem like in non-formal contexts iterative interaction history is the common way
xmj: there was a lot of drinking involved yesterday.
xmj: did you just buy the .com domain?
xmj: fluffypony: how do i leverage that into getting you two to trust each other?
fluffypony: well that's what the WoT is for
xmj: fluffypony: suppose i know you and cazalla but you don't know each other
xmj: how do you instill trust -right from the start- ?
fluffypony: if it's transactional, then a series of progressively larger escrowed deals establish historicity
xmj: What's the best way of trust brokering you've found so far? instilling trust between two parties that do not yet now each other directly.)
assbot: The Most Expensive Bitcoin Painting Ever Sold - American Hard Assets
mircea_popescu: bitbet. giving the bitcoin population the sort of graphs it wants to see. since 2012.
TheNewDeal: I'm quite fairly sure I understand the greenish vs red colors. But there's also a, perhaps, darker green line as well.
mircea_popescu: the difference is nigligible.
asciilifeform: 'The water-cooled engine will have to disappear completely.'
asciilifeform: 'Nowadays humanity depends basically on the whale for its nourishment with fats. I gather that the number of whales in the seas of the world tends rather to fall than to increase. The East will supply us with the vegetable fats that will replace whale-oil.'
mircea_popescu: it's not the jew's fault that old otto wanted functionaries and officers and so started schooling the peasantry, whether the peasantry wanted any schooling or not.
mircea_popescu: i'd rather blame von bismarck tbh.
mircea_popescu: i find it very amusing, this tendency of the simpleton to personalise. first, the gods are guys (and some gals), because why the fuck not. then, Nature, has a will. finally, the pernicious working of the democratic/populist press become "jewish".
asciilifeform: btw 'table talk' is the 'fun hitler.'
gribble: Alois Hitler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alois_Hitler>; Ancestry of Adolf Hitler - 20th Century History - About.com: <http://history1900s.about.com/od/hitleradolf/a/hitlerancestry.htm>; Alois Hitler, father to Adolf - History in an HourHistory in an Hour: <http://www.historyinanhour.com/2012/01/03/alois-hitler-hitlers-father/>
Vexual: the red nosed fcist
mircea_popescu: let's play "guess the author"
mircea_popescu: of state authority and the safeguarding of law and order."
mircea_popescu: "While from innate cowardice the upper classes turn away from a man whom the Jew attacks with lies and slander, the broad masses from stupidity or simplicity believe everything. The state authorities either cloak themselves in silence or, what usually happens, in order to put an end to the Jewish press campaign, they persecute the unjustly attacked, which, in the eyes of such an official ass, passes as the preservation
mircea_popescu: these being equally hard... nothing has changed.
mircea_popescu: really does not matter, because while it saves on the direct question (what to bet) it creates the meta question (whom to copy).
TheNewDeal: after reading, still not sure on what the consensus was? Really doesn't matter, because you don't know what future bets will be?
mircea_popescu: "The Last Psychaiarist" << that's not spelled thusly.
gabriel_laddel: Regarding sexbots, I'm surprised that no one has brought the custom maid 3d integration with oculus rift.
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal mkay lemme see here
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal this was discussed earlier, re financial products. what the fuck is the buzzword, i forget
assbot: BitBet - Republicans win majority of the U.S. Senate :: 0.77 B (64%) on Yes, 0.43 B (36%) on No | closing in 3 months 1 week| weight: 99`870 (100`000 to 1)
TheNewDeal: quiz question: what is the financial incentive in copying someone else's odds on bitbet, but at a fraction of their bet? re: http://bitbet.us/bet/1000/republicans-win-majority-of-the-u-s-senate/
Vexual: id want a few glasses of pino gris before i drove that, so that i might imagine where the road is