thestringpuller: moiety: The nice thing about that pub is it is downhill.
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mike_c: ;;later tell fluffypony i gave that guy your handle, he may come ask you about the job
BingoBoingo: Anyways normal .22 lr blunt lead cheap shit tens to ricohet in the skull after it penetrates
BingoBoingo: decimation: WIth .22 lr not usually persons, groundhogs and other vermin
BingoBoingo: <decimation> .22 lr pistols have always been popular << Problem is they don't cycle well on subsonic loads
BingoBoingo: decimation: Mazing though that the two most killing calibers here are .22 lr and police 9mm and .38
BingoBoingo: <decimation> what purpose does it serve to require people who shoot guns to deafen themselves? << Puritan baggage
decimation: what purpose does it serve to require people who shoot guns to deafen themselves?
BingoBoingo: <decimation> my office mate got a suppressor recently, took 9 months for ATF to approve paperwork << Walther P-22 or whatever no wait with a probably missouri residence
BingoBoingo: <decimation> my office mate got a suppressor recently, took 9 months for ATF to approve paperwork << Missouri to missouri lacks the hurdles
assbot: The crime of being American pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: mike_c http://trilema.com/2012/the-crime-of-being-american/ >> tjat guy
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/russia-says-ukraine-shelled-across-border-with-intent-to-kill-officers/504097.html << turning into ugly balkan or Israeli shit
BingoBoingo: decimation> I would get the 7.62x39 with a suppressor (after all the ATF paperwork) << for delicate shit in missouri suppressors are a thing and most .22 lr semi autos have tons of accesories available
decimation: I wouldn't mind one of these: http://www.czub.cz/en/catalog/364-centerfire-rifles-cz/KL/CZ_527_CARBINE.aspx strikes me as well made and practical
asciilifeform: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/russia-says-ukraine-shelled-across-border-with-intent-to-kill-officers/504097.html
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: But Russia has crates of them intended for Thompson
asciilifeform: as evidenced by the fact of lend-lease 'chicago typewriters' remaining mostly unused, languishing in warehouses to this day
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: my understanding is that this is virtually unheard of << Turned out all of the other patent people held .308 winchester rifles I was the long 7.62x54R party to this fight against the undead
decimation: turns out that the beats by dre headphones suck at delivering bass too
BingoBoingo: Went aroung too long begging for an SKS in the middle of zombies
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: <asciilifeform> then somebody asks 'why not shooting plugs?' and answer, 'try wearing those for 14 hrs' << actually had a weird dream last night
asciilifeform: decimation: gave them to pet, who doesn't give flying fuck about noise
asciilifeform: then somebody asks 'why not shooting plugs?' and answer, 'try wearing those for 14 hrs'
decimation: do you find them more comfortable than head-clamp style headphones?
BingoBoingo: Bose filters are great even if the fundamentals suck
asciilifeform: if, say, monsanto - sold a set with an extra -5dB attenuation, made of reprocessed kittens and personally signed by obama, at 20x the cost - i'd buy it...
mike_c: well, they are suing apple now right?
decimation: no, they are suing someone who has $3 bn
asciilifeform: bose patent << are they also suing sony? or any of the 100 or so other manufacturers of antiphase audio gizmos ?
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decimation: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/25/bose_sues_beats_apple/ remember the dumbass beats acquisition? yeah it was still dumb
asciilifeform: 'Canceling Kickstarter cancels the pledges, so nothing to return except an apology to those who pledged for Kickstarter's siphoning and selling their profile. (A fair number said this is why they would not participate in this or any other crowd-funding scam, that we should be ashamed of aiding and abetting the hustle.)'
mircea_popescu: so counterintuitively the ads are actually good.
mircea_popescu: but yes, 100s of places. the web is a big hole.
DreadKnight: last time I talked to him about 2-3 years ago, I recall his latest game with the zeppelin that he wanted me to try
moiety: sounds dangerous thestringpuller lol
thestringpuller: but the one I'm going to is a skateboard ride away. So I can get drunk as shit and skate home.
thestringpuller: well there is an arcade pub, with old 90's arcade games scattered about.
moiety: youplay video games at the pub?!
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DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, read the homm related comments, seen people defeating pretty much any neutral army without having many units of their own by exploiting the berserk spell in homm3, really OP, hypnotize can't compare overall; lame example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8DKlEbAv1U
moiety: lots going on thestringpuller how are things with you?
mircea_popescu: DreadKnight i tried them, for half a day.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform happened once before you know ? how did they conquer ur ?
asciilifeform: columbia's wearing the stripes and seeing the stars << http://thebrendans.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/screen-shot-2014-05-05-at-1-58-38-pm.png
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: opressed populace... it'll side with the enemy << who will invade usa? martians? and should they invade, for what purpose other than rounding up inhabitants for biodiesel? one might suppose folks would support usg over biodiesel harvesters?
benkay: columbia standing in for america. getting blapped over the head and wearing welts?
decimation: only so many gov't and indirect gov't jobs, and they are handed out in a FILO queue
benkay: <mircea_popescu> this would be why columbia's wearing the stripes and seeing the stars. // pardon me?
decimation: The trouble is that in the case of the DC area, for instance, the parents also are taking up the economic opportunties
mircea_popescu: benkay "imposing your will on the environment is evil anwyay"
decimation: there's some truth to that mircea. I suspect that the nuclear family was probably a reaction to this very problem
benkay: "i'll die poor, what of it. let's have another pabst and talk about the latest pictures on instagram."
benkay: "the myth of US Social mobility is worse than mythical : it’s going the other way." // this is pretty well known among the 40-50 yo socialist set, and my generation seems to just accept it
mircea_popescu: might as well skipped him went straight from lizzie to the kids.
mircea_popescu: lookl at the british crown : the fact that charles actually reached sexual maturity is to the detriment of everyone.
mircea_popescu: with 50+ age expectancy, this model is disastrous, basically if humans were a functional species sexual maturity'd skip a generation altogethere.
mircea_popescu: if the average lifespan (esp for males) is in the low 40s, then sticking together family is perfect : by the time father croaks, kids are just old enough to pick up the pieces.
mircea_popescu: individuation happens with hardship. the point of fambly sticking together is to control hardship through approaching it a certain way, much like a ship approaches waves a certain way.
mircea_popescu: us folk can't admit they suck andmore than classical japanese can admit emperor is a dumbass.
decimation: so we have a situation where people living in Bethesda have kids who have to move to Kansas because the people in Bethesda don't want to admit that they are poor
decimation: note those cities largely lack gov't jobs, and lack the primary patrons of bezzle money (big finance, welfare, defense contractors)
decimation: note that the areas that have increasing millennial home-buying are all low-cost areas that have escaped bezzle inflation: "Among the top cities that may see a surge are Austin and Dallas in Texas, as well as Denver and Des Moines, Iowa. "
decimation: I wonder what percentage of households in say DC would be able to purchase their own home (assuming they didn't have their "house wealth)
decimation: lol from asciilifeform's millenial housing link: "At the same time, there?s good reason to believe that millennials, those ages 18 to 34, aren't that different from other generations and will pick up their purchasing before too long ", then the article proceeds to list reasons why they won't purchase
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BingoBoingo: Well Des Moines is prolly the only place to move if you want to be a gay married pig farmer...
mircea_popescu: . Among the top cities that may see a surge are Austin and Dallas in Texas, as well as Denver and Des Moines, Iowa.
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: to make sure the dildo doesn't smash its stack on exceptions
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fluffypony: mike_c: tough to say - I'd be expecting the BTC equivalent of anything from $10 to $15 hourly
mike_c: or the low end, or whatever
mike_c: ok, i will enquire. what's the range on pay
fluffypony: mike_c: it's up to what they can commit - I'm happy with a part time role as long as they stay commited and active
mike_c: i think it was thestringpuller that was always using calc for stuff like x / 100 :)
fluffypony: mike_c has the magic touch
fluffypony: benkay / anyone else - if you come across someone really, really junior who has the barest smattering of C / C++ and is keen on a testing role that can grow into a dev role, please let me know
mircea_popescu: but in the real world of real politik, an armed opressed populace is fucking dangerous, it'll side with the enemy.
mircea_popescu: sure in an idealised, us-centric world as the naive represent thngs to be, a well armed citizenry is the guarantee and bla bla.
mircea_popescu: would any of the people who target practice use their arms on the invaders or on the feds ?
chetty: would anyone give the FED a dime?
mircea_popescu: as things stand right now, if someone could somehow be bothered to invade, the us would simply collapse and that's that.
mircea_popescu: there's a very fine equilibrium between how popular a government is and how much support it can muster.
mircea_popescu: benkay consider the reverse of this situation : during the azn crisis in the 2000s, people were queing up to donate their privately held gold to prop the centra lbank.
mircea_popescu: and the difference between real value and actual headship is how much actual value (not printed dollars) "they have" stashed away in that particular accumulator.
chetty: we live in a disposable world, whats the point in owning trash
mircea_popescu: they measure how much of a shit your peers give under "headship"
mircea_popescu: consequently, every able bodied male in your grandfather's age group tried desperately to own.
mircea_popescu: benkay as compared to the rights and privileges ownership conferred upon your grandfather, ownership confers nothing much to you today.
benkay: the thesis is that because there's no alloidal title in the us, one doesn't actually own the place?
nubbins`: but without ownership, there cannot be pride!
mircea_popescu: and they're trying to come to terms with this.
mircea_popescu: the attractiveness of ownership is slowly following
mircea_popescu: benkay why would you be paying the upkeep of something you don't own ?
benkay: mircea_popescu: i'm still confused about 'headship'. how is it a measure for pinchable assets? and how is fixing a pipe in a house you're paying the mortgage on a foolish thing?
mike_c: yes. just selling 1 btc for 0.9 btc always strikes me as nuts. i guess if you need the liquidity.
mircea_popescu: share with the group benkay .
jurov: and then asked mircea to flush
mike_c: i get it now. i was like "there's a mpex undo button??"
mircea_popescu: benkay well yes. you "own" it so here's what the govt wants from you now.
mike_c: what did jurov mean before? "jurov:mircea_popescu: looks like the F.MPIF perpetrator wants to withdraw"
mircea_popescu: the headship count is a rough proxy for how much money the govt could steal in ap inh
mircea_popescu: this is why headship is so impoirtant in discussions of "economy" on the govt side :
mircea_popescu: benkay your parents, and other idiots thatr age.
mircea_popescu: headship is the internalised delusion that it is worth your while to regard the world so that if a water pipe breaks you pay for it to be fixed.
benkay: i don't know anyone my age who seriously thinks they'll be buying a house anywhere anytime soon
mircea_popescu: "Rather, the decline is cyclical and as the economy improves, Furman said, millennial headship rates will improve, which could translate into eventual ownership." <<< ahahaha no fucking way.
mircea_popescu: anyway, gold btc price bets don't seem to garner much interest these days http://bitbet.us/bet/977/btc-price-to-rise-above-1oz-of-gold/
mike_c: oldest spy trick in the book
mircea_popescu: mike_c this is factually true. no govt drone ever kept a secret when tits were nude on the table.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: lots of text for 1btc. << funny how little money the vocal periphery actually controls.
mircea_popescu: artifexd: I come back from Ecuador and realize that they just banned bitcoin entirely because they're going to make their own cryptocurrency. I guess my wife was right all along when she said Correa was a dumb ass. <<< let the kids have their fun.
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mircea_popescu: mike_c very well known, 2004 : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3639679.stm 2008 : http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/16/password_security/
mircea_popescu: pigeons: my stocks went down too, but the price doesn't matter, i'll just take a temporary loss and not sell. how long is temporary? << you don't understand what loss means in this context.
benkay: what's the right way to do it?
mircea_popescu: if that' sthe case you'r doing something wrong.
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chetty: its just the newspeak definiton of obstructionist, anybody that doesn't agree with libtards
mircea_popescu: (bad poopies) or a mare killing their own baby because of being born a runt (bad babbeh). Abusers consist of the majority of the site Fluffybooru with Ginger_Fig, Mwike, and deathproofpony being the most notable examples.
mircea_popescu: , physical weakness, destruction of harvest, and overpopulation. Fluffy Ponies can often die from their own stupidity such as falling off a cliff when attempting to fly, getting run over by a car because they thought it was a friend, eating bad foods, etc. Some abusers often abuse fluffy ponies as if they were clearing out a vermin infestation, while others abuse them for bad deeds such as defecating at the wrong place
mircea_popescu: The fluffy pony community is divided into two communities: abuse and hugbox. Abusers are people who often write stories or draw pictures of fluffy ponies being tortured and often killed by being attacked by humans, being attacked by animals, burning to death with fire or acid, getting cut in half, drowning, etc. These abusers often attack fluffy ponies because of their low intelligence, bratty and childlike personality
mircea_popescu: chetty i dunno, i thought obstructionist is someone who opposes a process for emotional rather than rational reasons.
benkay: guess i'm due for a nick change then
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benkay: uh the constant harping on cognac and champagne?
benkay: mircea_popescu: is there a microbrew market in bsas?
chetty: Pres Obama supports letting Central Americans apply for US refugee status in their home countries, rather than taking a dangerous journey.
mircea_popescu: there is a beer market.
mircea_popescu: to hear stalin tell it, lenin was not only a major stalinist but he didn't think much of trotski either.
mircea_popescu: i had no idea libertards had progressed past being embarassed by the fact that nobody in the classical period agreed with their nonsense into outright claiming they did.
mrstickball_: not the bad-guy nazis
chetty: wasnt he a founder of the Fabians?
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mircea_popescu: mrstickball_ well then what, piece of cake ? are you in film ?
mircea_popescu: chetty im pretty sure ovaries are higher in the girl
bitcoinpete: maybe he broke the bank on all dat entropeez
mrstickball_: maybe $25 with the fancy LCD screen
rithm: there's a 1%?
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete they sold for 2 btc long ago tho neh ?
bitcoinpete: mrstickball_: famous? me? only in the 1% ;)
mrstickball_: who are you using to get the trezor's shipped out with?
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mircea_popescu: mrstickball_ yeah but i mean... so then why commit suicide with havelock lol
mrstickball_: especially when our margins to them are about 10% after packaging and logistics costs
mrstickball_: they want crypto products, and want us to supply them. But we can't swing $250,000 of inventory on a net-30 payment model
mrstickball_: additionally, it turns out that our HQ is a few miles away from one of the largest PC retailers in the US - Micro Center
mrstickball_: Given the track record of how we've sold products, the belief is that more capital can be assigned to leverage better deals with manufacturers, and simply do more business, since the overhead and other costs are static at this point
mrstickball_: I/we have enough capital to continue ad-nauseum at about $100k of inventory. The problem is that we cannot grow beyond that, because of overhead (paying 2 employees, a building, ect)
mike_c: they don't deserve a video
bitcoinpete: maybe we should make them a sexy video?
bitcoinpete: watching them try to explain wtf a "smart contract" even is…
bitcoinpete: cuz we mention all kinds of people and they rarely show up
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bitcoinpete: notorious would've loved bitcoin ipos: mo of other people's money and no problems!
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bitcoinpete: the new havelock thingy
mrstickball_: its been a long time since I've been there
mrstickball_: FWIW, if anyone is going to that conference, I'll gladly take them out for dinner as a member of #bitcoin-assets
mircea_popescu: basically hes' been mostly doing netflix these days. getting fat on teh couch
mrstickball_: look at the bottom, below the charts. Its not comprehensive, but goes back a few months
ThickAsThieves: where can i find the date of each diff change?
kakobrekla: 'bolje prvi na vasi kakor zadnji v mestu' they say.
mrstickball_: I had a friend cash out of it back in the glory days. We CPU mined a few hundred thousand
mrstickball_: I wonder which ones survive... I am kind of sad to see Curecoin being so terrible when they were getting a lot of attention for curing cancer
mrstickball_: the vast majority of alts have no purpose and no reason to exist
mrstickball_: Unfortunately, when Chinese New Years hit, our factory (and every other) went down. Seemingly when they came back up, some factories re-evaluated their position to move to direct-sales and hurt us a bit
mrstickball_: there was a period of time we were pushing $5,000/day in riser sales with a 100-300% profit margin
mrstickball_: kakobrekla: that is correct. Back in January, during the last big GPU rush, we were trying to beat the Chinese on sales
mircea_popescu: the20year iirc nubbins said august ?
mrstickball_: + we reinvest in inventory very frequently, so profits don't always show up on the books very quickly. I have $25,000 worth of risers behind my desk
the20year: They're just a dirty reseller too
mrstickball_: no one does a good job of it. That's why we're working on capital to get a larger building and control a larger portion of the market
mrstickball_: hardware sales in the US is extremely lucrative
mircea_popescu: now all we really need is for someone to implement the wol pow.
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mircea_popescu: ah, you know each other
mircea_popescu: so what's the biz model like, buy a bulk and sell by item ?
mrstickball_: we've already grossed ~$1m USD in the past 12mo on hardware. Unfortunately, capital is a huge bottleneck
mrstickball_: mike_c: Manufacture is down the road significantly
the20year: he's been extremely profitable on his own sales side, and has done decently running the farm
mrstickball_: working on more ASIC deployment in the near future
benkay: <the20year> i'm pretty sure we're a chubbier version of the winklevoss twins, younger and not connected to FB // shorter too, indubitably
the20year: i'm pretty sure we're a chubbier version of the winklevoss twins, younger and not connected to FB
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mike_c: ;;gettrust the20year mrstickball
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mike_c: is he in the wot yet?
the20year: !up the20year
mircea_popescu: the20year if you pm assbot !up what does itsay ?
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mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust assbot the20year
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mircea_popescu: ;;ident the20year
mircea_popescu: !up the20year
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> no matter much trilema you read, the wife ain't gonna listen! << this sounds like a cry for halp
mircea_popescu: mostly because everything's the same thing anyway.
mircea_popescu: people have often done 180 degree about faces talking here. and those who can't gather on forum not here. so all's well, even if we are invested
mike_c: more to the point, i am willing to accept that is possible
mircea_popescu: otherwise, how's one to discuss investments ?
ThickAsThieves: no matter much trilema you read, the wife ain't gonna listen!