FabianB: jurov: doesn't seem to be something out there that attracts masses and is not too risky since jd
bitcoinpete: benkay: can't be arsed with scamwatch << leave that to the professionals ;)
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: there's very little doubt in my mind that if i were in the sort of situation most folk over there enjoy, i'd simply be shooting people. << and yet taleb survives in nyc just fine
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: decimation most of humanity lives on less than ten bux a week. << one thing if you have fambly support, another if you're a gweilo, gringo, etc.
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: i propose a new highschool charter. it teaches kids nothing, but smacks them every time they use "going to" << and "get/got"
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bitcoinpete: ;;later tell ThickAsThieves i went to school with the carbon copy of the singer in the strange negotations video. if my buddy plays his cards right, that'll be him in 5-10 years
thestringpuller: Long term the bets will likely always have profit, versus short term which could incur loss.
thestringpuller: I like the way you think FabianB
FabianB: thestringpuller: but a lot less likely owner disappearing
thestringpuller: FabianB: BitBet can incur a loss if the house bets go sour.
FabianB: "jurov:it needs another s.dice" <- isn't s.bbet like it, just not as popular, less dividend but less risk?
ThickAsThieves: "The call comes after Goldman’s U.S. equity strategy team last week went from bear to bull on U.S. stocks. "
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mircea_popescu: DreadKnight: great, just got banned in #bitcoin for sharing a link :\ << because it's neither cool nor useful.
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DreadKnight: consider them as teachers :D
benkay: i always got out of it by smiling wryly, wiggling my eyebrows and complimenting them on their hustle
benkay: let the man have your hand for a handshake, you've "lost"
benkay: my favorite in NYC was the obviously-too-old-to-be-in-hs-member-of-the-basketball-team "raising money for the team trip to...uh...DC" by selling large candy bars for 20 bucks
benkay: // ahaha the good ol' street hustle
benkay: the thing about it is that most of them don't want to start a conflict, they just look for weak people
benkay: we have a kind of people that we call 'niggers'. they aren't black. their uniform is sports clothes and a baseball cap. they introduce themselves by asking "hey friend, got the time?" (seriously, it's almost always like that). if you stop to answer and take your phone out, you've lost. most of the time, you can just say a single "no", or ignore them, and continue walking. this has worked really well for me lately.
DreadKnight: benkay, need to spend a few more days learning about socks / dividends / shares / listing so I can talk the talk properly and write some documentation as well (which is long time due)
DreadKnight: I'm more into getting a listing though and learning the related stuff
DreadKnight: recall it from chat log, still not very familiar with the system
benkay: i've made the odd trade yeah
benkay: yeah, these are generally considered "capital barriers", and improve market quality markedly.
DreadKnight: benkay, when I said online platforms I meant websites with lots of users that interact with the website; MPEx is not like facebook / fiverr / bitcointalk forum
DreadKnight: benkay, they say "NO ADS" in topic, noticed too late; can easily be considered an ad
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benkay: "every" "exception" // get your shit together
DreadKnight: I bought a hdd from an online store, a romanian ebay clone once and I got scammed as it was old and had bad sectors, was it the website's fault? my fault more likely, but there was a reputation system so I should had been more careful, also the used got banned quickly
benkay: this bit lending thing actively goes out of its way to promote itself as a safe place to do lending. it goes above and beyond the call of duty to enable scammers.
benkay: <DreadKnight> benkay, there are scammers and scams on every single platform // show me a single scam on MPEx.
punkman: I used to hate it but I guess there's worse thing to be woken up by
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Namworld: If everyone was using Linux, bugs would show up regularly. Although perhaps they'd be fixed more quickly, Linux being open source.
DreadKnight: good and evil are two sides of the same coin, you can't have just one
DreadKnight: benkay, there are scammers and scams on every single platform
DreadKnight: Namworld, people constantly complaining about viruses but not switching, that is the problem
DreadKnight: btcjam basically has the same amount of credibility as any crowd funding website in existence
DreadKnight: benkay, the website itself doesn't seem to be a scam, but yeah, there are scammers on it for sure
Namworld: That, and it's always nice to know what people think. I rarely use any negative language toward anyone, but that's just me. But I'd be the last one to say people shouldn't say this or that to anyone.
DreadKnight: there goes my excitement for sharing an interesting website
DreadKnight: bringing games as an argument is like you're deliberately trying to play the same few games that just aren't made with other operating systems in mind
benkay: i'm going to make a stab-you-through-the-internet for everything
benkay: you don't build a fucking house out of paper in the first place
thestringpuller: then I will call it futile!!!
benkay: quit trollin, thestringpuller
kuzetsa: thestringpuller: also, Steam OS is probably not going to support anonymous, random hardware as well as windows
DreadKnight: it's like buying games for nintendo console and wanting to play them on your ps3.
DreadKnight: thestringpuller, ikr
thestringpuller: "Bill Gates pushed for DirectX in the 90's now everyone writes for windows when on PC thus windows is better" argument
kuzetsa: other than that it's a very small (and constantly shrinking) list of apps which are native windows ones and happen to be part of some workflow or other
DreadKnight: I'm not sure what bitcoin has to do with the OS
kuzetsa: I use 3 or more OS per day most days, and rarely less than 2 (and one of them is always my linux box sitting at the local datacenter)
benkay: bitcoin's going to fix that for them
DreadKnight: I often hear windows users complaining about antiviruses, viruses and a lot of other stuff
kuzetsa: I often am guilty of that when I talk smack about ubuntu or the userbase
kuzetsa: DreadKnight: or I could just build my own bumblebee from source (with or without the gentoo ebuild to guide things into a sane, usable state) --> http://gpo.zugaina.org/x11-misc/bumblebee
DreadKnight: there's driver for nouveau as well afaik
kuzetsa: DreadKnight: any clue if it's nouveau, bumblebee, or some other driver solution? (the one which "does well"... also, which distro(s) have you tested it with?)
kuzetsa: DreadKnight: really? including the ability for the drivers to power down the geforce 540GT mobile when it's not needed? (to save power)
kuzetsa: wiping the sandbox and doing a rollback to a clean snapshot was quicker *sigh*
kuzetsa: well yeah, but occasionally they're fun to watch
kuzetsa: trying to decide if I want to analyze the behavior of Win32/Bropia.G.worm in a sandbox or just nuke it and let someone else do the forensics tonight :(
kuzetsa: DreadKnight: though I think I like the non-UK office better
kuzetsa: DreadKnight: It was so long ago I can barely remember either
DreadKnight: benkay, anyway, "copy cat" as in trying to fill the same shoes, so doesn't matter what order, if you see something else trying to be the same thing, it just feels wrong
DreadKnight: benkay, seen them both?
DreadKnight: kuzetsa, which the office you liked more?
DreadKnight: benkay, yes, was afraid it might have been the case;
benkay: <DreadKnight> don't want to see the exact same jokes by copy cat actors all over again // ahaha wait wasn't the UK one first?
DreadKnight: free-to-play applied horribly mostly, other times people trying to make a quick buck with minimum amount of work
kuzetsa: I got a lot of fun out of fruit ninja and angry birds before I was sick of them
kuzetsa: that's a trailer for the PC / console version, it was originally a smartphone/tablet app
kuzetsa: [23:23:25] <+kuzetsa> I saw a game I've been meaning to try out which simulates biological attacks on the planet (earth, or some other... don't recall) or something
DreadKnight: kuzetsa, guess it's the movie you mentioned
DreadKnight: don't want to see the exact same jokes by copy cat actors all over again
DreadKnight: kuzetsa, "we need a new plague" is from "The office" show, it's basically a meme now, google it
DreadKnight: decimation, ex-gf bugged me a lot to teach her web design / coding so that she can make a lot of money easily; she fails at english and she's not passionate or smart enough; and people around said I'm against finding a companion and rather set high standards xD
kuzetsa: I saw a game I've been meaning to try out which simulates biological attacks on the planet (earth, or some other... don't recall) or something
kuzetsa: who needs a plague... the creatures of earth? how big a plague? global pandemic? regional outbreak?
decimation: yeah it seems english has become the lingua franca of that kind of work
DreadKnight: decimation, computer science; basically talking about components and crap; most of the time leaving students to spend time on the internet as they wish while he's getting paid anyway
DreadKnight: I find it sad when I see people who want to make money from IT but they just don't focus on properly learning english first
DreadKnight: I used to have a buddy who's an informatics teacher at a highschool; when I talked in english he usually found that rather offensive and snobbish
kuzetsa: mircea_popescu: thanks though, I never would've noticed that (delayed) reply if you hadn't included my nick in the message.
mircea_popescu: <kuzetsa> (that twitter still shows http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php as being the relevant site) << twitter is clueless
mircea_popescu: kuzetsa> speaking of which, I had been meaning to see if MPEX or any of the others have a decent API << ahhh all the history one does not know :D
kuzetsa: decimation: also, HTTP is not the only way of doing REST APIs
kuzetsa: benkay: well my bot only works with REST APIs (json or otherwise) so ... I kinda need APIs to use it sanely --- https://github.com/kuzetsa/gekko/releases
decimation: kuzetsa, I think you will find that the folks on this channel revile using HTTP for serving up anything other than static pages
decimation: famously the hijackers were staying at a motel in Laurel within sight of the NSA director's office
kuzetsa: hmm, is there no REST APIs on mpex?
asciilifeform: decimation: but you aren't there now.
decimation: ascii I've been that engineer at the party, and I totally get his point
asciilifeform: 'If you want a partial understanding of why 19-21 Saudi/Egyptian terrorists could live in America and enjoy our strip clubs but still want to crumble our architecture, there you go.'
kuzetsa: speaking of which, I had been meaning to see if MPEX or any of the others have a decent API
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decimation: " From the system's perspective, not only did it still get blown, it liked it even more. In this analogy, the system is the system and you're not."
kuzetsa: I'm far more likely to speak up when I don't understand what's going on or why than I am to "moan" (appropriately or otherwise)
mircea_popescu: kinda what makes it better than oppresive regimes a la usg in the first place.
decimation: until someone has developed a deterministic model of the human mind, I don't think social sciences can do any thing more than tell stories
kuzetsa: mircea_popescu: mostly I'm just already jaded and given up on any sort of quota for how much offensive shit I'm going to be bothered by at any given time... it sometimes takes a bit of effort to "give up and just go with it"
mircea_popescu: kuzetsa you are, yeah, but the prediction attendant would be that you'd never make it here, and yet it's not coming true.
kuzetsa: cazalla: sorry about earlier throwing a fit about the "I'd hit it" or whatever and trashy something or other (no clue what you even said, it wasn't that bad though)
asciilifeform: labels aren't arbitrarily tacked on - they're lived.
decimation: 2001: a space odyssey was one of my favorite movies as a kid, but I was disappointed by the book honestly
decimation: I started ringworld, I thought it was boring, didn't get the hype
decimation: 1970's prisonier who was cryo-frozen, then unfrozen in the future and sent on a mission to the center of galaxy
mircea_popescu: ah, the history we don't know :D
DreadKnight: it wasn't about the chain
asciilifeform: unless you're thinking of one other than jorge luis
cazalla: i don't see the appeal in the chains plus that residue you get on your hands from shit like that would annoy me
DreadKnight: kuzetsa, same colors in their world as well, unless they get to see more of them or maybe less
DreadKnight: anyway, you're kinda dodging the libertard subject thingy, so moving on I guess...
kuzetsa: DreadKnight: my premise in thinking it would plausibly be less tedious isn't that they would be "better" but that it would be less "same old shit"
DreadKnight: Kushed, just because they're from a different place doesn't mean they're not affected by polarity / gravity and yin&yang as well
kuzetsa: DreadKnight: none, no, they just seem plausibly less tedious (though not neccessarily friendly to be around) than figuring out how people work
mircea_popescu: except, they are not.
mircea_popescu: right, the dollies wouldn't be as hard as the classmates, if the dollies were classmates.
mircea_popescu: one of the telling symptoms of the libertard is that he'll replace his person as is with some sort of ilimited derivative of god, and pretend to concern himself with "the termic death of the universe".
asciilifeform: http://kyristor.com << dumped my ancient derpage in there for archaeologists to derp on.
kuzetsa: heat death of the universe resets everything to a state of entropy, including politics
mircea_popescu: of course they are.
kuzetsa: nah, more along the lines of the heat death of the universe (at which point, politics are no longer relevant)
kuzetsa: DreadKnight: as mircea_popescu said, this isn't an ontological discussion (and then you chimed in to qualify: it's political)
kuzetsa: people don't matter, and their opinions tend to be at least twice as stupid
DreadKnight: kuzetsa, do you think that the opinion of all people matter? (something to step in the right direction)
kuzetsa: so to clarify, are you referring to things vaguely on the side of "social left" = libertard?
mircea_popescu: basically, anyone who's to the left of, being in favour of the release of serbs in medieval germany/russia could count as a libertard, depending how the conversation turns.
kuzetsa: this planet is nothing special either
kuzetsa: the universe would still exist if humanity was wiped out
mircea_popescu: generally, people who identify as liberals, progressives, social-something or the other etc.
kuzetsa: mircea_popescu: oh, no, I don't think humans are AT ALL MEANINGFUL IN THE WHOLE UNIVERSE EVER
kuzetsa: ok, then what's a libertard?
mircea_popescu: anyway, does kuzetsa get the crown for the first libertard to have tried b-a or does truffles actually get that one ?
mircea_popescu: "FuckU-FuckMe is the most powerful, pleasurable, inexpensive, and only dual-party Internet remote intercourse tool on the market today." << this should be on an ipo
asciilifeform: just wait till we plug the kyristors in.
mircea_popescu: whai ? they just protest teh kyriarchy
benkay: they've come full circle to making sense i guess
kuzetsa: libertarians piss me the fuck off too, actually -_-
mircea_popescu: "Kyriarchy ("rule by a lord") is a social system or set of connecting social systems built around domination, oppression, and submission. " << yeah. basically, they now have a word to describe how the world both is and is supposed to be.
cazalla: benkay you've never had a poopsock? clearly you've never played an mmorpg then
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kuzetsa: mircea_popescu: this is more better than... whatever the fuck that particult urban dictioary gibberish was (and unlike urban dictionary, has actual citations) ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyriarchy
asciilifeform: 'rule by the rulers', lol
kuzetsa: cazalla: thanks for linking that too, I didn't realize the word "kyriarchy" was even a thing (this word pleases me, it's a good thing to have a word for, and as a thing, kyriarchy sucks all of the badness)
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mircea_popescu: cazalla half wine enemas work wonders on them.
kuzetsa: benkay: I'm neither exclusively top nor bottom no submisive nor dominant in that regard :)
benkay: ever seen two people who both like to be told what to do in bed lie there hoping the other will make a move?
kuzetsa: yes, human asexuality isn't a black & white condition, there are gradiations and different forms it can take (like for instance, demisexual)
asciilifeform: zoo of the future << zoolag.
kuzetsa: mircea_popescu: I don't agree to that joke about "desperate", particularly when demisexual persons are considered part of the asexual spectrum, and in my case, I don't particularly have a strong & compelling sex drive a lot of the time
mircea_popescu: smoking... either way really.
cazalla: DreadKnight, you see artsy as smart, i see it as dumb, we probably like the same women
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, compared to other types, artsy chicks are fewer, so more difficulty in getting one
benkay: <DreadKnight> quite a bit of people seen me naked and they said I'm doing really good length wise; and I was really cold at that time (shrinkage)
cazalla: DreadKnight, exception that proves the rule perhaps
benkay: <mircea_popescu> try and find some twentysomething that ISNT belabouring under the delusion that she can "create" art. // srsly
DreadKnight: quite a bit of people seen me naked and they said I'm doing really good length wise; and I was really cold at that time (shrinkage)
mircea_popescu: try and find some twentysomething that ISNT belabouring under the delusion that she can "create" art.
benkay: if you're just learning how to do the thing?
DreadKnight: cazalla, my mayor is a drug addict with classical cars and there are a ton of "posh" clubs around, so I'm not quite in the place I should probably be
nanotube: fluffypony: the20year's problem was his browser was caching the old encrypted otp. heysteve's is probably same?
mircea_popescu: DreadKnight the valley girl is not as romanian as you think.
cazalla: DreadKnight, i don't like that either
DreadKnight: cazalla, pitzipoanca is usually smoking, has a lot of dresses, make-up, talks all the time on expensive latest iphone, goes clubbing all the time, listens only to music like house or manele (gypsy crap)
mircea_popescu: <benkay> son you're crazy <<< wasn't that mocsny fellow derping the same derpage in the 90s ? o, soon sex robots!!1
DreadKnight: cazalla, the thing is that around here in this city, there's a really nasty stereotype of girls, "pitzipoanca", basically a club barbie doll that's so not my type
cazalla: DreadKnight, well you should see these ones, full of milk, doubled in size :)
mircea_popescu: <cazalla> benkay, because i thought i was going to die << so what, something like "eh fuck the world, im dieing anyway" ?
DreadKnight: I'm attracted to smart women because they feel less like robots/animals, in the sense they're not all about sex / shopping / make-up; and if they even have an artistic side, like drawing, then even better :3
mircea_popescu: <DreadKnight> they seem to have knee protection, so probably walked in 4 limbs for quite a bit << yeah bursitis is no fun
benkay: lol meaning you disqualify yourself from finding mates because they're stupid so you don't actually have to try to get laid
cazalla: doesn't the urge to fuck come from that though
benkay: k you're disqualified from opining on relationships until you address all the above
cazalla: DreadKnight, why not just have a friend come over and fuck your wife and raise that baby? i don't see the difference in that and adopting tbh
DreadKnight: cazalla, we're all the same matter and it's not like I don't have physical weaknesses, same applies for my potential mate
cazalla: a million other kids can starve for all i care
benkay: DreadKnight: this is the kind of advice that ruins people's lives: "go adopt a rescue animal for your first dog! you'll have no idea what it's suffered through or how trainable it is! think of the poor dogs!"
cazalla: benkay, obviously wasn't the sole reason but thinking i was going to die sooner than later, seemed like a good idea to have a kid
cazalla: yeah plus list of other shit i googled, doctor didn't really help much
DreadKnight: cazalla, anyway, plenty of kids made and abandoned, it would be smarter to adopt one then make a new one just because imo
DreadKnight: cazalla, maybe eventually, but it's not a must, need other things first
cazalla: DreadKnight, but if you're so smart, surely makes sense to have kids then
DreadKnight: cazalla, so far I don't have kids, so that basically lowers population by itself if doing the math
benkay: kuzetsa: typically people focus more on the kinds of folks they want around rather than the kinds of folks they find objectionable
kuzetsa: benkay: yeah, all -- in the sense of there not being any particular body type or sexual or gender identity I find to be a dealbreaker
DreadKnight: I get the idea, also googled a bit
kuzetsa: as far as romantic relationships are concerned, physicallity is something I neither object to nor expect
kuzetsa: DreadKnight: ah, fair enough -- I thought sapiosexual was an ok word for my own preferences until I realized the extra fancy term: "panromantic demisexual" was a much more accurate thing in my case (as far as labels go)
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kuzetsa: DreadKnight: yeah, the knee pad thing is a good safety measure for uhm... science O_O
DreadKnight: they seem to have knee protection, so probably walked in 4 limbs for quite a bit
DreadKnight: wondering what's the story behind that picture
kuzetsa: this is the most recent dashboard post for one of my more NSFW tumblr accounts ---> https://40.media.tumblr.com/7ac19bdd7652e3e26d497eb4cc5842c3/tumblr_n6uc3hzm3s1rbmzr2o1_500.jpg
kuzetsa: mircea_popescu: yeah, I've done the furniture thing (let's leave it to the imagination who was the furiture for who)
kuzetsa: I'm lawful evil in most things, so the concept of boycotting a business whose practices aren't illegal or against my own personal practices would just be pointless.
kuzetsa: cazalla: you're accusing someone of unethical non-boycotting of a presumably "bad / unethical" business when that same person also uses cex.io GHS despite the potential harms of centralization
mircea_popescu: pity kakobrekla isn't here to tell them darned japs to stop wearing ties. SOMALIAN INVENTION.
kuzetsa: yeah sure, jlist is the devil or something
benkay: the torches and pitchforks approach
benkay: generally people who get bent out of shape about gender and naming and shaming and what-has-one don't do the cultural appropriation thing, because "imperialism".
kuzetsa: cazalla: and incidentally, I really was bored and wandered over to jlist -- they have nice merch.
benkay: there's no contract, clearly, which is impeding this discussion.
benkay: "To maintain liquidity, all ASKS under NAV will be bought up once during the 24 hour period after the fund reports. "
benkay: if he stops, the jig is clearly up anyways lololololol
kuzetsa: cazalla: thanks, I skimmed the first page of /pol/ and then when I got to the bottom I intentionally clicked a banner ad link which took me to jlist since it seemed more interesting than checking the next page
benkay: now hang on just liquidate the thing when you want out
jurov: it needs another s.dice
jurov: it's then hard to sell for me "it will never pay anything, but dun worry, mircea has it"
benkay: :thumbsup: from the kid
benkay: i like the mpex assets that accumulate btc.
mircea_popescu: jurov in principle if one wants to keep the same btc value that one just sells share
kuzetsa: ... I really don't go in /b/ much these days though (or any of 4chan, really)