decimation: 'the street' will have its own uses for bitcoin, once the drug lords figure out how easy it is to move across borders...
mircea_popescu: he is on to blood. any creditor can hide any assets in the chain.
decimation: lol from your 'bitcoin lawyer' link: "Practically, there is no public record of Bitcoin purchases. Bitcoin wallets are similarly anonymous as Bitcoin balances and transactions are identified only by a digital code with no link to person or place."
DreadKnight: or all them scanks wanna be models and make money just because
assbot: If CNN says Hong Kong’s in Brazil, it must be so! | Cable network in yet another ridiculous on-air flub | Media Equalizer
assbot: The conference, third edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
empyex: mircea_popescu: Next conference starts in 8 months and 9 days. Estimated cost today: 2.22083887 BTC (Details: http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/ )
mircea_popescu: jborkl you're probably confusing the bitcoin conference with whatever random derpage nobodies meeting in a parking lot.
jborkl: Maybe they like getting laughed at while jerking off other dudes in the sauna, I never thought of it that way. MP you are always insightful
mircea_popescu: jborkl last time we made fun of them, what'd change.
mircea_popescu: ""Ask anyone whose opinion matters, and they'll tell you Doug Stanhope is one of the top ten stand-ups in the world today. " dude there must be something to this seeing how i just randomly saw ten minutes of his act half hour ago and im already doing bookings.
mircea_popescu: "There's a kind of Olympic torch of extreme American comedy, which passed from Lenny Bruce, through Richard Pryor and Sam Kinison... to the late Bill Hicks. Stanhope is the latest, and equally brilliant, bearer."
jborkl: otherwise he will only hear crickets
jborkl: hopefully he does not make fun up people patting each other on the back and jerking each other off in the sauna
mircea_popescu: well lessee if he does bitcoin conference then.,
mircea_popescu: comic's the booklet neh ?
mike_c: he's a comic. they do anything for money.
jborkl: the site is just refusing gribble
DreadKnight: the dude's not even porn star material
mircea_popescu: "the traditional route : years of rejection and failure untill she's finally spit out the bottom of the porn industry"
DreadKnight: know a 40 year old something that was supposed to be making a MMO, spend about 10 years with 4 pc's in his face while having no real skill, trying to make others to work on his MMORPG for a share of the profits xD finally gave up and now making a trading card game using Unity3d
DreadKnight: yeah, you're probably right, the guy is pretty deadbeat mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: DreadKnight banks won't lend to peons. owners won't rent to deadbeats. sink low enough, it's either a cheap motel or the park.
DreadKnight: I don't get people living in hotels; know a dude around here that does that and works at a supermarket, the math is not right
mircea_popescu: omfg dank finally croaking into the abyss ? splendid.
DreadKnight: I can see any vid, but hate when there are internet restrictions full of bs
DreadKnight: not the one you linked, kakobrekla
mircea_popescu: "i'm one of the like 50k us people that can tell a story. i got my own website and seminars."
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlaA0_z4Rgg look at this. the shit's so sad, by now people with minimally adequate social skills are counted to have a profession out of it.
mike_c: likely more fingers in the ass.
DreadKnight: violence is the universal language :3
mircea_popescu: chetty no. but they still have needs.
assbot: Guitar guy at the party - YouTube
mircea_popescu: "My struggle is that due to my honesty and adamancy to share what I learned through my journeys, many have come to judge me rather than seek to understand me."
mircea_popescu: "Hi, my name is Sean Martin. I have been active on these forums for three years now. I am an aspiring guitarist that has an important message to share with the world and a unique style and huge potential to make it big." << dank is incredibly fixated on his guitar stuff.
kakobrekla: translating the code into 3d.
mircea_popescu: uh. im still trying to pin down exactly what it was you do. originally figured some coder guy, then you wanted to do 3d models, now you want to translate
mircea_popescu: <DreadKnight> I am poor too, trying to not be jelly on simple games that made lots of money << you are probably making the mistake of mentally restricting the universe to some sort of schoolyard definition of "merit"
DreadKnight: I used to think I need to know a lot of nerdy stuff and work hard to earn, then I started seeing people playing games and making way more with less work xD
DreadKnight: people who don't have the rich mentality get back to being poor in no time
BigBitz: then sold my BFLs.
mircea_popescu: mike_c ah ok. well i only see the occasional snippets people post @me once they're going all rage-y.
mircea_popescu: i could be ron paul for the same money.
mircea_popescu: to some degree he's educated tho, he displays about the same low level sophisms in general use by th population of online libtards
mircea_popescu: not bothering to consider that if THAT'S how things worked it'd have been lights out a long time ago.
mircea_popescu: there's no possibility of any sort of rational process involved, he's some guy who figures he's going to "do damage" to mpex by being stupid online.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: no, not apart from the occasional frustrating interaction on Bitcointalk
mircea_popescu: fluffypony> I give up << do you know the guy ?
assbot: Bitcoin Forum - The Unofficial Bitcoin Forum
kakobrekla: fuck you i report your report to reporter of the reporting reportuity
kakobrekla: >There are numerous reports saying bitbet scammed users.
pankkake: there's really nothing left to salvage
chetty: folks enjoy arguing over anything but the substance of what is
DreadKnight was thinking about stabbing people in the face and smiling
fluffypony: "A seat would mean there are a limited amount and you can sell your own seat. On mpex you can buy a "seat" and sell unlimited seats to other naive investonomers."
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: But if you stab Jimmothy in the face suddenly everyone will buy MPEx seats!
pankkake: the thread lacks a funny factor
chetty: fluffypony, the world is full of em
fluffypony: every time I try and have a rational discussion with Jimmothy I want to stab him in the face.
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu:DreadKnight do you get your gribble pms ? <-- oh actually no, got confused; I looked through the log
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: wow wait, the guy was here ?
mircea_popescu: hey there.
mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/29H78RP << here's a lulzy example of the exploit failfully injected in the wild. from http://prezi.com/_x4ho5z02njk/untitled-prezi/
mircea_popescu: that didn't look like a wp hack, incidentally. they lost root.
BingoBoingo: Even the installer shouldn't run as root
ben_vulpes: to the dylan song, and re centos: "everything must run as root!"
DreadKnight: chetty, oh, no +1 for being nerdy stat then xD
pankkake: Steam seems popular with Windows users, it seems to be one of the less intrusive "stores"
DreadKnight: the web was supposed to be "the thing" imo, not packaged apps for more linux based distros each having their own store
mircea_popescu: i really don't like these walled garden bullshits.
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, really find that way stupid as well; wasn't very excited about steam coming to linux in the first place, but maybe someday SteamOS consoles will be popular, like OUYA was somewhat expected, but until then, steam is an extra layer, just to get more ads and see a ton of "your friend is not playing dota2"
mircea_popescu: moiety kinda good to have in the background sort of thing imo. that's kinda the idea, i never expected any significant sort of volume.
BingoBoingo: ^ In your neck of the woods
moiety: It's been three months. It's been extremely quiet for the past two. I did say at the time, should we not do a month or three to see how it went is what i mean mircea_popescu.
mircea_popescu: DreadKnight yeah solforge is one of these tablet/steam only types of things. a lot of people are (stupidly) going that way these days.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell moiety unsure what to do with the phone line? << iirc it was prepaid for a year, did a btc's worth of call answering run out already ?
BingoBoingo: The fight never ends
gribble: The operation succeeded.
moiety: ;; later tell mircea_popescu i didn't talk to them, it was a message left. unsure what to do with the phone line?
BingoBoingo: How have you been since saving the flat?
assbot: The Five Biggest Threats Facing CoinDesk and Anyone Who Reads It | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
pete_dushenski: http://contravex.com/2014/05/27/the-five-biggest-threats-facing-coindesk-and-anyone-who-reads-it/#footnote_4_766
pete_dushenski: where he famously went on a weeklong radio silence vacation right then bc.info was getting haxxored the hardest
pete_dushenski: he was an inspirational speaker compared to anyone else at the time
BigBitz: Ah yes - he was the NeoBee moron.
pete_dushenski: he pumped neobee and some other scams
pete_dushenski: he was at the right place at the right time to lead a bunch of redditards to their doom
pete_dushenski: obviously, derpopolous should take this opportunity to tell the federalis how the blockchain is going to decentralize smart contracts and replace bureaucrats with dacs
pete_dushenski: BigBitz: well, at least they use keys
pete_dushenski: and hushmail the girl scouts
pete_dushenski: making hotmail the boy scouts
pete_dushenski: but the question is: is yahoo any better?
BigBitz: Google: The Internet Police.
chetty: <pete_dushenski> and that yahoo is working with google is
the end// dun dun dun
pete_dushenski: and that yahoo is working with google is… the end
pete_dushenski: not sure where derpy blogger got the idea that pgp is anywhere involved
pete_dushenski: they don't use it by name, just "end-to-end encryption" or some such
pankkake: I have not seen any mention of PGP in the actual sources
BingoBoingo: Pretty soon there are going to be all these new public keys and no idea if the person you are mailing to is just letting Yahoo of a JS plugin do the decryption
BingoBoingo: decimation: Unfortunate enough to illustrate they don't know the space they have chosen to operate in
BigBitz: Nefario^ the GLBSE guy?
decimation: the netagio exchange is affiliated with goldmoney (is a spinoff) which has a good rep for gold trading, as far as I know
chetty: <mike_c> wasn't there a guy in here doing the first-best-greatest UK btc exchange?// at least 3 times
decimation: nope, just curious, I don't even have an account there. That is why I am soliciting information from those who may have.
BigBitz: are you affiliated with them decimation? :)
gribble: User 'decimation', with keyid 106FEE1B40AA2A95, fingerprint 22B34B42FE4414F836EBACD6106FEE1B40AA2A95, and bitcoin address None, registered on Fri Apr 25 00:22:58 2014, last authed on Thu Aug 7 14:40:39 2014. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=decimation . Currently authenticated from hostmask decimation!~decimatio@unaffiliated/decimation .
decimation: apparently the Netagio exchange pays a 0.1% rebate per trade if they are out-of-the-money, to encourage liquidity. In-the-money trades are charged 0.5% fee
assbot: The Lie Behind 1.2 Billion Stolen Passwords
BigBitz: http://www.youarenotpayingattention.com/2014/08/08/the-lie-behind-1-2-billion-stolen-passwords/
decimation: are there any folks from the UK that have used this exchange? https://secure.netagio.com/
decimation: maybe that is where the COIN fund will buy BTC
davout: lol, i'll leave it like that, for the lulz
assbot: Paymium | The European exchange
davout: lol where the fuck is that?
pankkake: Bitcoin is an open protocol for online decentralized transactions. In the Bitcoin P2P network, there are transaction processors (nodes called "minors") and nodes that perform transactions using a wallet. Everyone can be an auditor ("minor") and everyone can send and receive bitcoins, without necessarily being a "minor".
chetty: must equally equip the sides, or its not FAIR
mike_c: "the pesh merga now complain of being short on ammunition and outgunned by militants who have seized caches of advanced U.S. military equipment from the Iraqi army."
chetty wonders how many people got killed by dropping them water and food
chetty: must protect the innocent ya know
thickasthieves: that's what they are selling really
thickasthieves: everything they did is visually pro
mike_c: scam aside, the design actually isn't bad.
mike_c: I mean.. i actually feel that pull. 1,000 BTC of ether sold yesterday, and I can get it for 40% of the cost they paid.
mike_c: half off ether!!
mike_c: ether bought at inflated prices.
thickasthieves: etherium wallet
thickasthieves: another 1000btc today
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/08/content-vs-metrics-sports-edition/
thickasthieves: wait maybe it's still kinda there "All players (members who can post shots) are drafted (invited) by members. Having members take responsibility for those they draft sharpens the focus on sharing interesting work."
thickasthieves: i see it's no longer got the WoT aspect, tis freemiun
thickasthieves: <+mircea_popescu> https://dribbble.com/hemant_gupta99 prolly not this guy, but... dribble ?! /// you might have some respect for dribbble.com, I forget the whole story by now, but it was started by an elitist graphic designer as an invite-only community meant to prioritize quality. Sorta like a WoTty deviant art. I havent followed it for years tho...
DreadKnight: thanks for the recommendation BigBitz
DreadKnight: BingoBoingo, that email address extends the joke :D
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !s matheny
DreadKnight: <mircea_popescu> maybe, but i was kinda planning on eulora having an in-game card game, in the style of arcomage in mm6/7 <-- well, I'm not making a MMORPG, so no direct competition xD plus I already have the combat system for my project in place
chetty: well its early alpha but there is a server running and we have channel here #eulora
gribble: The operation succeeded.
DreadKnight: ;;later tell mircea_popescu seems solforge is not browser based and there are no linux / mac versions, pff
chetty: I am actively coding the game DreadKnight
DreadKnight: chetty, are you trying out the prototype from time to time or what?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
DreadKnight: ;;later tell mircea_popescu feel free to link me to that blog you said it needs translated; taking a look at solforge atm, I'm not too much into card games, but it has a very nice website at least :) seems the game was crowd funded
DreadKnight: by Jason Jute, who does a lot of Wizards of the Coast cards
mircea_popescu: (obviously. for the record, any "like" i do re eulora must be prepended with "Except better". and appended too, for safety)
mircea_popescu: maybe, but i was kinda planning on eulora having an in-game card game, in the style of arcomage in mm6/7
BingoBoingo: Safest option would be prolly one where Ancient Beast comes into the S.MG fold
mircea_popescu: problem there would be that your putative investors would have relatively little reason to believe you won't simply walk after the listing.
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, still trying to figure out the whole listing business, most articles are about buying stock, not listing
DreadKnight: regarding listing something on MPEx etc, only the IPO brings in money overall, so would rather buy part of the stocks myself for cheap and sell them later? or advertise the IPO to a lot of people?
DreadKnight: haven't seen ads on their website
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, they seem to be making more, nice SaaS business plan compared to disqus, but I don't like not being able to edit posts, so will keep my distance
mircea_popescu: DreadKnight do they seem to be making 10 bux a day yet ?
mircea_popescu: "WoT is a gimmick just like GPG. 99.9% of bitcoin businesses don't take it seriously." o the win in that. lmao.
DreadKnight: they don't seem to be accepting bitcoins yet
mircea_popescu: monthold acct, tryin to fight the good fight among the nuts, it's one of you gais isn;'t it
DreadKnight: so I found this awesome commenting system / forum a while ago, but the devs stick with a manifest to not allow editing posts for too long; and even the devs make no sense in posts at times xD
mircea_popescu: minus a 's in there.
mircea_popescu: never rush grammar for one never knows when the amber's droplet's about to drop.
mircea_popescu: " I would rather trust my funds with Cryptostocks than MPEx" well that's a winning proposition for sure. i would say he should, and that'll be punishment enough.
mircea_popescu: i knew i should have put "who gets lucky" in there too
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i don't think mine are even translatable in the first place. maybe by someone that's mentally ill and quite drunk. << Even then it always took me so many iterations to even come close
DreadKnight: that chick has less views on the video than her number of subscribers, that's really bad
mircea_popescu: i don't think mine are even translatable in the first place. maybe by someone that's mentally ill and quite drunk.
DreadKnight: Internet is full of that so I didn't bothered with it, but I could do
DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, I agree regarding the forum; will check some of alternatives as well
mircea_popescu: DreadKnight it's an absolute cesspool. i doubt 4chan could make a worse one if they tried.
BingoBoingo: I just love the people calling scams now are people advertising and soliciting IPO help
mircea_popescu: "so how did it happen ?" "well, billy mcglurgh was balancing above the main vat when he fell in"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo so, accident at the distillery in edinburgh. one dead. work safety inspection follows. inspector interviews eyewitness workers
DreadKnight: a bit caught up with silly freelancing atm; and the heat doesn't help xD
BingoBoingo: Will collapse eventually because the snake can't grow faster than it can eat itself
BingoBoingo: Then the self expressing sort pass because the professors hangovers mercifully keep them from paying attention to self expression
BingoBoingo: Hangovers? Easy way to sit the fuck down and keep quiet.
mircea_popescu: o no, gotta express oneself. here we are after just a few short month on the campus, with something to say on all topics and we always wanted to try the swamp out!
mircea_popescu: i have no fucking idea how all these murican types mange to get through college. seems to me the most, the BY FAR MOST difficult thing for them is sitting the fuck down, keeping quiet and paying attention.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: coinfire was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 6 days, 14 hours, 45 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <CoinFire> Thanks for the invite! :)
BingoBoingo: "Here we are just a few short months later and weve heard from various people in the industry that we are quickly creating one of the most reliable cryptocurrency news sites and weve gathered up a team of kick ass volunteers to help us grow this madness out." << Is this in reference to the pats on the back for making a phone call and finding out "insured wallet" wasn't insured?
mircea_popescu: 0 backers pledged 0.00090000 Ƀ 38 days to go << how the fuck does that work.
mircea_popescu: "Here we are just a few short months later and weve heard from various people in the industry that we are quickly creating one of the most reliable cryptocurrency news sites and weve gathered up a team of kick ass volunteers to help us grow this madness out."
BingoBoingo: Yeah, So the solution requesting money kickstarter style with... Ads as compensation... but no adult ads please (paraphrasing their crowdfunding page)
mircea_popescu: "The fund which received regulator approval from the Isle of Jersey back in back in July and was set to launch this month has joined The Bitcoin Foundation as a Silver Member."
mircea_popescu: "Mike (Executive Editor) - Mike has been following Bitcoin for the last several months and got fed up of sites that are full of advertisements and didnt provide the latest news"
mircea_popescu: so do you know them ?
steven-__: in the same way b-a is sort of a internet chat room
mircea_popescu: oh. then an ignorance is me.
steven-__: they have been doing 2 shows a week for almost 600 eps
mircea_popescu: ah cool. well it's the first time i see this thing, seems it appeared sometime last week. what's it, like some sort of internet radio show basically ?
steven-__: its a news / comedy show but it also has a strong fan base that sends in tips they broke that bo birddog? story pretty much the house it happened
steven-__: thanks, mircea_popescu any thoughts on the no agenda show? searched on trilema but couldn't find anything.
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.03 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 3737.96 GH/s
mircea_popescu: something tells me you're not the only one lol
TheNewDeal: bet also presents a decent hedging opportunity. Speaking of which, I'm loving all these active price bets lately
mircea_popescu: as far as i'm concerned, when the luminaries of the previous generation are careful to avoid playing you, more recognition is not really needed. it'll come, of course, but it's moot.
mircea_popescu: yes. i mean they claimed to want to invite someone who's short their thing, but to not be able to find one.
mircea_popescu: it already paid lulz in spades. buffett held his yearly meet, supposedly "couldn't find any short". just the embarassment of that...
mircea_popescu: well, the brk bet had the major advantage of 1k zeroconf. that has ~0% chances of being rejected.
mircea_popescu: the russian scam ?!
TheNewDeal: just curious. I was trying to make a bet on MMM on a BTC basis in the past, and it kept on getting rejected. The brk-a bet surfaced not too long after
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: ;;google senior executive service pay << these folk get options. whole different story, as bubbles happen 3-5 times in a lifetime.
mircea_popescu: otherwise they may end up bamboozled by the nonsense fetishism of pseudo-power the ycombinator swamp is pusing, "in order to interact with power acceptably you must give it away in exchange for the trappings of it". tlp discusses the matter extensively and well.
mircea_popescu: more importantly, gotta show the kids what it means to be the boss and what a boss does.
mircea_popescu: gotta show the world who's boss.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform:they aren't rich, in the customary sense - but not paupers. << compare what'd happen to the us bureaucrat pauper vs the russian bureaucrat once someone in a hostile nation put the kaibosh on them. they're paupers.
mircea_popescu: it's the easiest skill to recognise, too. so... not much hope. they're hiring people, sure, but people only google/microsoft/apple/amazon would hire if they didn't.
mircea_popescu: decimation: at any rate it's not clear to me that clowns like Hayden or Alexander would even recognize skills if they saw them << precisely. suppose they DO recognise them, like, "this chick looks like she could suck a golfball through a gardenhose." now what ? the last guy that recognised that skill lost his job.
mircea_popescu: on the contrary.
mircea_popescu: decimation: Hayden emphasized that the personnel problems are far less significant than the technological ones << well, i disagree. now, from a bureaucrat pov, sure, they generally can fill any jobs they want filled, according to their selection process. this however does not mean they are gaining any sort of valuable human capital.
assbot: Saving The NYC Egg Sandwich by JoeyScoops — Kickstarter
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mircea_popescu: and the idea was only boring women get married anyway.
mircea_popescu: dude. lordosis just like that is usually a pathologic curvature of the spine. teh lordosis ~behaviour~ is different.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: in that picture you said you could tell who was wifed, as they weren't displaying lordosis
mircea_popescu: step 1. set down bottle without looking. part 2. set it down on usb stick. step 3. bottle overturns and falls over, exactly cork down. part 4. nothing further happens.
mircea_popescu: stop mixing the codebooks fluff.
mircea_popescu: nono, the word is bird
fluffypony: I thought bird was the word
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes if you mean the lordosis ~behaviour~ it's this female mammal response to being hawt.
ben_vulpes: well, wife status was the word.
TheNewDeal: at least, that was the word yesterday
TheNewDeal: currently on the search for a % base graph of bitcoin days destroyed