Jason: mircea_popescu: ugh wp is a pain. i was just going to either use a flatfile db or sqlite
BingoBoingo: Jason: Anything more styled than http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/ is a failure
mircea_popescu: you can just directly dump data there.
mircea_popescu: seeing how if you do that you get a mysql free into the mix
Jason: "ordered by the blocks" - in what order? old to newest?
Jason: 00:54:22 <+mircea_popescu> all the valid deeds received and so included are also published on said website, ordered by teh blocks.
Jason: mircea_popescu: yeah, there's no big deal with the form really. just wanted to know if you already had something in place since deeds. existed
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Seems boring
Jason: mircea_popescu: who is going to create the form?
Jason: mircea_popescu: had a q?: you said a new deed in the system can enter on a form @ deeds.bitcoin-assets.com.
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Which domains?
TheNewDeal: mircea_popescu I'm going to let the .org/.net domains expire. is it ok if I leave contact information as is?
kyuupichan: WTF happened to the URO coin bet?
nubbins`: okay, so a cop car has been parked next door with the engine idling for TWENTY HOURS now
mircea_popescu: "surprised that after the guillotine fiasco, people are still sticking their penis in random bathroom stall holes"
mircea_popescu: kyuupichan> Surprised after the mybitcoin fiasco people are still doing URL wallets <<< this.
kyuupichan: Lol wondered where the URO bet went
kyuupichan: Lots lost their URLs IIRC; bound to continue.
kyuupichan: Surprised after the mybitcoin fiasco people are still doing URL wallets
BingoBoingo: Seriously what does onename.io work with other tha grossly insufficient entropy wallet
BingoBoingo: <ascii_at_beach> mircea_popescu: here's one possible reduction, somewhat coloured by my 'vacation reading' pile. in machining, there is some upper bound to idiocy because man comes with a mere ten fingers. here, on the other hand - no limit << ascii_at_beach any guesses on how many "complete" fingers grandpa has?
kyuupichan: Diff will still grow, but it'll reduce too, and the reductions hurt more than the growths help. Once diff stabilizes BTC will actually have a cycle of less than 2 weeks, perhaps 2 weeks and 4/5 hours on average, owing to volatility and convexity working against it.
BingoBoingo: kyuupichan: Also what was that bs with confirming with the onename,io bullshit
BingoBoingo: kyuupichan: Where are the hormone producing components of your genitals, go bold!
BingoBoingo: kyuupichan: Write up the BitBet
ascii_at_beach: mircea_popescu: here's one possible reduction, somewhat coloured by my 'vacation reading' pile. in machining, there is some upper bound to idiocy because man comes with a mere ten fingers. here, on the other hand - no limit.
kyuupichan: Yeah. We've gained 3.5 months over those 105k blocks. I doubt we'll gain more than 2 weeks over the next 105k.
kyuupichan: And we're 1 block shy of half way to the next reward halving....
ascii_at_beach: thestringpuller: 2 or 3x a decade...
mircea_popescu: typical forum idiocy, but the guy sprouting it has been "involved" with bitcoin since 2011ish.
mircea_popescu: also: I'm not endorsing ethereum, I just think it's highly interesting, mainly from a technical perspective and for the implications it might have (which I can't yet fully imagine). Unsure who's really behind it, either, and what the larger plan is there..."
mircea_popescu: "sentiment of bitcoiners seems quite negative against ethereum. people fear what they don't understand, I guess. Or maybe it's envy these guys are being swamped with coins. btw: not saying ETH is a good investment, I have strong doubts. Ethereum being successful does not necessaril imply ETH will be valuable.
ascii_at_beach: either this, or chumps are 'renewable resource' to the extent that we should literally stoke furnaces with them
ascii_at_beach: i still think ether's a laundry.
kakobrekla: checked ether, just under 26k
TheNewDeal: i just bet no on the 21b last change, looks like its not gonna pay out
BingoBoingo: Like Imms find Bitfury and give them a Buttfury
TheNewDeal: I'm pissed at the hash increase as well bb
gribble: You rated user gmaxwell on Sat Aug 9 17:15:40 2014, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: Likely UnSavoryGarnish, Plant of either US government or Aubergine variety.
BingoBoingo: <BingoBoingo> I'd rather not
BingoBoingo: <gmaxwell> Can you please make your negative rating say US Government? The current message you've used is very unclear in its meaning.
BingoBoingo: Anyone who missed the gmaxwell drama yesterday:
BingoBoingo: <kyuupichan> Someone's added a boatload of btc hash power in the last week it seems We better get some long blocks
BingoBoingo: peterl> does US count as de-colonised after independence? << British recolonized the US in 1941 and every James bond film release
mircea_popescu: meanwhile the locals collapse back to their pre-civilisation bullshit, with more or less pronounced cargo cults.
mircea_popescu: roughly speaking, "with the nonsensical approach that all people are equal we're discovering that the expense of maintaining a colonial empire exceeds the benefits and so we will pretend that we're leaving out of respect for the locals"
kyuupichan: Someone's added a boatload of btc hash power in the last week it seems
mircea_popescu: by the very definition that is a metropolis-led process.
mircea_popescu: but otherwise, no, i wouldn't say the defeat of the british was any sort of decolonisation.
BingoBoingo: At http://trilema.com/2014/come-see-me-clutching-at-straws/ there were Ideas I'd held and not fleshed out in writing which need elaboration so you can gut me with you talons in intellectual discourse and order can be restored
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Maybe I'll blog it once I get done with blogging the NFL problem which will tie into it
mircea_popescu: seems that in no case has de-colonisation been successful at even matching the colonial performance.
mircea_popescu: seems that in no historical case has colonisation been a net negaitive for the colonised, starting with caesar's germania
mircea_popescu: maybe some dood who figures he will thus therefore "destroy it" ?
assbot: Why would someone have no friends? : The Friendship Blog
nubbins`: no precision or nuance, sure, but what use would the idiot have for such things?
BingoBoingo: To sodomize Wittgenstein If a lion could speak would you understand it, how then could idiots understand each other
assbot: The Idiocrats | Bingo Blog
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Wilde was wrong http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/05/the-idiocrats/
TheNewDeal: wilde has some of the best quotes
nubbins`: “Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation.”
gribble: Oscar Wilde Quotes (Author of The Picture of Dorian Gray): <https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/3565.Oscar_Wilde>; Why would someone have no friends? : The Friendship Blog: <http://www.thefriendshipblog.com/why-would-someone-have-no-friends/>; Kendrick Lamar - Bitch, Don't Kill My Vibe Lyrics | MetroLyrics: <http://www.metrolyrics.com/bitch-dont-kill-my-vibe-lyrics-kendrick- (1 more message)
nubbins`: ;;google sometimes i don't understand the world i live in or what goes on in it
nubbins`: then said "hey mp's tank seems ok"
nubbins`: she was in the kitten tank first
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> analogies: sometimes they don't stretch ;( << and sometimes, they stretch the wife.
BingoBoingo: !up TheNewDeal
nubbins`: analogies: sometimes they don't stretch ;(
BingoBoingo: Incel Brazlovik probably lead a pogrom back in the day
nubbins`: suppose two people with tanks show up and 44% of my wife decide to go with you but 41% of my wife decide to go with the other tank, while the remaining 15% goes with various other individuals carrying small arms
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: And we come to yet another problem of Pidgins, every word seems to look like people's names
mircea_popescu: whether she throws herself at me or not.
mircea_popescu: no, but if i come with a tank into your house, i seized the wife
nubbins`: that's redefining the word seized
mircea_popescu: if the ira ever got elected to be kings of ireland, it'd still have been "ira seized power in ireland"
BingoBoingo: <nubbins`> it's a bit saucy to say anyone "siezed control" after being voted into power in an internationally-monitored election << Shhh don't let Obama read the lawgs his election wasn't internationally monitored
BingoBoingo: The problem with Pidgins is when you leave them all you have is nonsense a la US - Levant news
ascii_at_beach: 'good news' - the u.s. police will be disarmed; 'bad news' - by u.s. brownshirt corps.
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Because they are afraid to say Obama did they same thing when he won an election too
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Oh, I'm thinking the two pieces are connected
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo re the other item : actually disarming the us police may be a good idea.
nubbins`: idiots don't think they're frauds
mircea_popescu: they just don't realise it
mircea_popescu: they really ARE ceos and whatnot, all of em.
mircea_popescu: yeah dude, that's the problem with usians, that they don't internalize their accomplishments
nubbins`: from ferguson to greece, fuck the police
BingoBoingo: Also North St Louis County seriously might Go Gaza this week http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/08/10/michael_brown_unarmed_black_teenager_shot_in_ferguson_a_st_louis_suburb.html
BingoBoingo: People who live without a devil http://the-toast.net/2014/01/29/everyone-imposter-syndrome-except/
BingoBoingo: Evil always finds a way, so one must adopt the most effective evil.
ascii_at_beach: choice of 'devil is in the details'
BingoBoingo: Yezedis are no more devil worshippers than the Haitians. If they worshipped the right devil as I do ISIS wouldn't be such a threat to them.
assbot: Reagan and the Great Man in history — Crooked Timber
mircea_popescu: http://crookedtimber.org/2014/08/08/reagan-and-the-great-man-in-history/ << check out the comments. buncha libtards harping about how... the us has moved to the right since the 70s.
assbot: ClubOrlov: Obama risks American lives to save the devil worshipers
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Until the Water Chip breaks
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Right, Which is why you don't laze about in the Vault, but become the Van Graffs
ascii_at_beach: likewise 'index card plus btcd' is a more compact, and therefore intimately -understandable- system than a software package in the usual sense
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you know what happened to valut people in the intro to fallout 2 ya ?
BingoBoingo: <ascii_at_beach> well it can still burn, if sufficiently apocalyptic war where the blockchain is nuked and 'damnatio memoriae' << Who here isn't a big enough "Fallout" fan they don't plan to have a scale valut replica at BTC pricepoint X
mircea_popescu: ascii_at_beach so then you don't have an argument ?
ascii_at_beach: well it can still burn, if sufficiently apocalyptic war where the blockchain is nuked and 'damnatio memoriae'
mircea_popescu: much in the same way cunts are better designs than angels.
mircea_popescu: the library that can burn and doesn't burn is a better design than the library which can not burn
ascii_at_beach does not like the idea of a 'library of alexandria' that has a burnable component
ascii_at_beach still favours the recipe of 'bitcoind 0.6 + no more than ten lines of perl' for complete scheme
mircea_popescu: think how the history of the world would have looked if the arab invaders of alexandria thought "you knw what ? if we burn the libary tha will make the coran unreadable"
mircea_popescu: well, yes. the thing about bitcoin is that while it speaks clearly, teh various experts have no idea what it says.
mircea_popescu: one of those things people don't realise they can even dream of, like getting home to a party of naked disney princesses ready to suvck you off
mircea_popescu: this is a fucking thing that archeologists and historians don't even know they miss it'd be so great if they had.
mircea_popescu: ascii_at_beach it's more subtle than that : the survival of every document in the set depends on the survival of all the documents in the set.
ascii_at_beach: vs. yet another server that can go south - or, to save from this, be mirrored and updated synchronously in some organized way
ascii_at_beach likes the idea of system that can be brought into being simply by passing around an index card with some simple rules, for all time
mircea_popescu: let the matters of who can speak and who can act be separated.
mircea_popescu: ascii_at_beach i'd rather divorce the barrier to entry from the avenue to power than centralise them
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> <ascii_at_beach> imho anything worth keeping a hash of in blockchain is worth stuffing entirely in << by the same logic, any woman that's worth fucking is worth fisting. what, srsly ?! << Y not?
ascii_at_beach: benefit is not only that you aren't creating yet another db that can be corrupted or lost, but also specifically the expense
mircea_popescu: <ascii_at_beach> imho anything worth keeping a hash of in blockchain is worth stuffing entirely in << by the same logic, any woman that's worth fucking is worth fisting. what, srsly ?!
mircea_popescu: <ascii_at_beach> mircea_popescu: deeds registrator << why not this >> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1490 << i somehow fail to perceive the benefits.
ascii_at_beach: for a contract selling kingdom - the whole thing
ascii_at_beach: so for a contract for purchase of a pig, sha2 hash thereof might be all the telegraphy expenditure it deserves
ascii_at_beach: or at the very least, hierarchically increasing cost with Importance
ascii_at_beach: more like the language in which orders are issued to submarines, over ultralongwave.
ascii_at_beach: or see origin of the english word 'laconic'
ascii_at_beach: as described in my 'telegraphy' piece, or five other ways
ascii_at_beach: BingoBoingo: It can tolerate forms of data Bitcoin won't << you can stuff arbitrary octets in the blockchain. it will simply cost you.
kakobrekla: wtf is with the d.
ascii_at_beach: NameCoin << sounds like a problem for the one blockchain that's actually alive...
RagnarDanneskjol: i think Telegraphy gets too complicado with the blockchain parsing bit. this is a much simpler proposition
assbot: Jonathan Meese & his mother: Mommy and me are animals - YouTube
Jason: mircea_popescu: aha. so when i hash it, i also reset the string.
mircea_popescu: Jason " and append it to a string which is hashed every 512 seconds." << no, old things already included in the block you don't keep around anymore
Jason: RagnarDanneskjol: see if you can find me the python. php is not my thing :-)
Jason: so i check if they have l2, then i check their gpg fingerprint at http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=(nick), verify the signature, and append it to a string which is hashed every 512 seconds.
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Jason!DgAAEAAAAA@unaffiliated/naked-wanker. Trust relationship from user assbot to user jason: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=jason | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=jason | Rated since: Thu Mar 28 21:44:07 2013
Jason: ok, and how do I find the keys for its l2 WOT?
mircea_popescu: well, just another "better governance than irl" thing
mircea_popescu: all the valid deeds received and so included are also published on said website, ordered by teh blocks.
mircea_popescu: once this event happens, the irc bot reports here "5 documents signed, hash included on block #x"
mircea_popescu: 2. all the valid deeds received in a specified interval, say 512 seconds, are appended together, hashed, and the resulting hash is inserted into a bitcoin transaction, which becomes part of the bitcoin blocchain.
mircea_popescu: 1. each is chcked for valid signatures from people in assbot's l2 wot. if these are absent, the thing is discarded.
mircea_popescu: once these are acquired, some processing is done, as follows :
mircea_popescu: one of them is an irc bot, active here. someone goes !add pastebin/blabla
mircea_popescu: wouldja not anticipate ? lemme say the story.
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mircea_popescu: so, the idea is to maintain a corpus of documents, much like deed registrars work irl. you register a document, it becomes part of a record others can review. permanently.
Jason: mircea_popescu: so how is this relevant to what I was going to do? i'd look for those gpg messages, and hash them?
nubbins`: haven't tried since the downtime
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you're prolly not using the new key. see faq.
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mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol turns out i used a cached command with the old signature.
Jason: mircea_popescu: how do i determine whether it qualifies?
mircea_popescu: but anyway, the idea being : i sign a document, send it to your bot this way, the bot includes the document if it qualifies in the list of documents.
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mircea_popescu: right. the mpex bots can also process pastes.
mircea_popescu: see it took the text and dumped it in a paste.
mircea_popescu: Jason do you know how the mpex bots work ? or assbot's quotes ?
mircea_popescu: i think the most sold or something. it's basically the honda of bubbly. cheap and reliable.
mircea_popescu: BigBitz the only accomplishment of 1800s germany ?
mircea_popescu: in other objectifying women news, i just poured down the drain a whole bottle of mumm because i got fucking scammed. here i am, naively buying stuff from major colonials store, only to discover i am being sold local knockoffs. shit was flat and tasted like llama piss to boot!
Jason: mircea_popescu: so essentially collect < 16 kb of data from a POST, record it, and have an event every 512 seconds to verify clearsigned signatures and append it to a string which will then be hashed?
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol yes, most people study joomla, which will never pay their bills. few people even know how much more important techs a la supybot are for the future of it.
Jason: mircea_popescu: you're fine if i post my understanding of what the project involves, yes?
assbot: Search the #bitcoin-assets log
RagnarDanneskjol: FYI - I contacted everyone on git who has done anything with teh bots - most of the names led me back here, nanatube, etal. One amusing response you might appreciate:
Jason: mircea_popescu: i did, but now we're separating bitcoind from the bot
mircea_popescu: didja get to read the spec ?
mircea_popescu: this isn't exactly a supybot module, but more like a long term sort of project, which will both require maintenance and afford the maintainer a position in teh bitcoin hierarchy.
mircea_popescu: Jason the idea is to expand current bitcoin-assets functionality with a register of deeds.
mircea_popescu: there's really no need or utility for private messaging here.
Jason: i don't see the difference hehe
thestringpuller: some lemmings shit right there
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
BingoBoingo: The College game I don't mind
BingoBoingo: The NFL is way too political
thestringpuller: American's and their football
thestringpuller: I did haze them in college XD
BingoBoingo: I'm still coming to terms with the fact all of the up and coming MLB players are people I could have hazed in College
thestringpuller: Ugh all the football people are gearing up ~_~
BingoBoingo: I mean if Pittburg could make the playoffs last year after that miserable stretch of 20
thestringpuller: They've been good ever since.
BingoBoingo: Well, the 90's were a dark time in St Louis
thestringpuller: Haven't gone to the series since like what 95?
thestringpuller: We always choke in the playoffs though.
BingoBoingo: Well, these things happen
thestringpuller: yea BingoBoingo those looked like wicked seats by the dugout
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Well it was my only game on the year, and those definitely aren't my usual sort of seats
mircea_popescu: make a one-man ngo friendly to the libtard nonsense, get a wikipedia article pretending like you exist and matter.
mircea_popescu: "Omar Barghouti (born 1964) is a founding committee member of the Palestinian Campaign for the Academic and Cultural Boycott of Israel (PACBI)."
assbot: Omar Barghouti - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
mircea_popescu: self censorship rarely if always works towards the interest of the individual. it is a social control mechanism.
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: You saw the pictures post. http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/10/a-place-i-was-pictures/#comment-21778
penguirker: New blog post: http://blog.khersonus.com/2014/we-have-the-technology/
thestringpuller: 60's los angeles women had such a nice look to them
mircea_popescu: because of the heating element, actually.
terp: you can tell because the pixels
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron pretty sure the offspring thing is a mockery.
assbot: The Offspring - Feelings - YouTube
mircea_popescu: <+fluffypony> I feel like I'm in the wrong profession. << just as long as that profession isn't "taking at face value anything random people say online".
mircea_popescu: re the previous nonsense, asciilifeform : here's reason 50956098609803456 : by paying a few bitcents for something "outrageous" and silly, you raise the bar for all future would-be famous peoples. making outrageous silliness much less of a +ev thing, making the world a better place.
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> unrelated: << yah, im sure the michael moore recipe is going to work for every other untalentedly libtard singer-songwriter out there.
nubbins`: his humans look like they're in a bad way
mircea_popescu: so from the joys of development hell : netbind now fails for unclear reasons on eulora-dev. no code changes, just, one day works, next day doesn't. herpyderp!
nubbins`: you know, "i'm growing tomatoes" is what you tell people at the hydroponics shops when you've growing not-tomatoes
mircea_popescu: http://bitcoins-millionaire.com/wso/gold.png all the work teh goldbugs put into making gold look good.
fluffypony: we've been having great success with the Click & Grow kits
thestringpuller: http://25.media.tumblr.com/7a5d6b85c0d1124600eb4af774645845/tumblr_mnykhbaQci1qb5u24o1_400.gif << tyler the creator
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you know the ancient law about how the landlord collected rent is entitled to also collect the lubricant juices off any females found on the premises
mircea_popescu: we didn't actually get far enough to fix a rate, but anyway, whatever the internets normally pay.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes: just...derping. << i have nfi, tried to give her an online job so she can cover her expenses and live more or less comfortably in exchange of spending 12 hours a day in front of the screen. didn't take it. << mo? what was the rate?
nubbins`: phun phact, there's a few companies here that harvest bergs for making beer and vodka
nubbins`: twist, all the icebergs are being floated south on purpose for cooling rigs
chetty: Bet it is actually heat from all the BTC mining rigs really
nubbins`: some rubes tried pushing the spelling "twonie", which never caught on for obvious reasons
nubbins`: nope, because it's 2x the face value of a loonie
mircea_popescu: because it gets you one sex act with a hooker old enough to watch cartoons of their own volition ?
gribble: The Quick and the Dead (1995) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114214/>; The Quick and the Dead (TV Movie 1987) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093811/>; The Quick and the Dead (1995 film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Quick_and_the_Dead_(1995_film)>
mircea_popescu: something along the lines of danielpbarron and co.