decimation: well, they would be alternately raped and stoned to death I would suspect
mircea_popescu: let the arabs sort it out.
mircea_popescu: no guns, and not so much clothing either.
mircea_popescu: now that's an idea, i wonder how the iraq/afghan wars would have went if instead of 2-500k gay boys eager to play videogames
decimation: no the median ham is a ossified 50-70 year old male who rarely has anything interesting to say
BingoBoingo: If the US cared about diplomacy this could replace Voice of America entirely
mircea_popescu: <decimation> yeah amateur radio would be much more fun if there were people to talk to other than hams << like what, 19/f/cali accidentally on the transmission ?
decimation: I love this distinction between proper police who serve the king, the local baron's agents, and the "democratic police". I'm going to use the phrase more often.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> I'm not sure how you are going to make money selling to the democratic police when the surplus war material is "free" << love will find a way.
decimation: yeah amateur radio would be much more fun if there were people to talk to other than hams
dignork: RagnarDanneskjol: yeah, but check the titon's reply :)
BingoBoingo: decimation: Oh, its always the same story from 2-160 meters
decimation: at least the upper end
decimation: what are you going to do with the band, once you have it?
decimation: yeah, those are neat, except the most interesting part is the fact that you can capture a decent band
RagnarDanneskjol: anyone into rf haxory should check this. most interesting/well developed proj I've seen in the space to date: https://github.com/mossmann/hackrf
dignork: decimation: love their warning: "If your ankles feel warm, something is wrong!"
assbot: What the wife of the /hashtag/ferguson?src=hash chief of police has to say on her Facebook http://t.co/dGdkegmfc4
decimation: I just at a few raw figs, they were delicious
decimation: I'm not sure how you are going to make money selling to the democratic police when the surplus war material is "free"
BingoBoingo: decimation> re: death ray << it is well known amoung amateur radio folks that RF burns are extremely nasty, they don't heal like normal wounds << Still better than touching the antenna...
decimation: "Washington's MRAP, valued at $733,000, was as "free" to the city as a diesel monster with a 74-gallon gas tank that guzzles down the road at 5 miles per gallon can be."
decimation: re: death ray << it is well known amoung amateur radio folks that RF burns are extremely nasty, they don't heal like normal wounds
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform raytheon has been trying to prop up th emegahole in its balncesheet by selling a mini version to fed backed usg agencies.
asciilifeform: they had a mini version
assbot: Active Denial System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
dignork: asciilifeform: the dish looks bigger on wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Denial_System#mediaviewer/File:Active_Denial_System_Humvee.jpg
assbot: Raytheon ADS? - Imgur
BingoBoingo: decimation: Mounted on the roof on rightmost vehicle
asciilifeform: i suppose they'll learn when it is switched on
asciilifeform: not one comment mentions the dish ?
asciilifeform: these were, officially, pulled from iraq
mircea_popescu: "Your right to assembly is not being denied," the police said later over a loudspeaker.
decimation: I never understood why mcds doesn't replace their mouthbreathing employees with robots
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Looks like it's baby brother doesn't it
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decimation: I never really understood why structs and function pointers weren't enough for someone to build all the "objects" they desired
mircea_popescu: well if anyone knows any of these twerps that keep spitting out pointless, copycat ipad games,
assbot: iphone - Does apple view the actual source code when approving apps? - Stack Overflow
decimation: asciilifeform: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3186648/does-apple-view-the-actual-source-code-when-approving-apps << you are right, they just scan binaries
dignork: nubbins`: last time I tried, i had to root the phone and patch the xcode to avoid dev license
decimation: yeah they don't charge you for xcode but you still need to sign up afaik
decimation: nubbins`: at least in the past you had to get a developer account
asciilifeform: sony did the original 'prs' box (sold mine for less than cost of shipping years ago)
BingoBoingo: The Sony readers were basically warez text only, it was great
decimation: or bigger actually, I think they bailed on that business
mircea_popescu: i literally was confronted with obviously the same one (stupid) thing, once with a scantily clad "mobster" girl, then later with a scantily clad "medieval fantasy" girl.
BingoBoingo: I imagine most of them can't afford phones
mircea_popescu: but that notwithstanding, it's apparently impossible to get any of these aspiring "software houses" to even pick up the phone.
decimation: plus 'ipad gcc' (xcode) only runs on a mac, and you have to tell apple why you want it (not that it would help without the app source)
mircea_popescu: and this leaving aside the problem that every shithead from vietnam to shangshitland is making the same dumbass 3 or 4 games, with the most ridiculous mechanics,
asciilifeform owns one of virtually every basic type of portable tablet/reader gizmo, they each have some use
asciilifeform: if it ought to do something useful in background and doesn't, it is the author's fault, yes
asciilifeform: what's the app in question
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla> this thing was introduced in the later models only ? << This thing was introduced when they "introduced" "multi-tasking"
decimation: I'm sure the hand of steve was in this
kakobrekla: this thing was introduced in the later models only ?
asciilifeform: this, according to the dev manual, is to save battery charge.
decimation: the capability to shrink dies has far outstripped the capability to design logic to exploit the new possibility space
mircea_popescu: it's the end of that accursed law, we can get back to humanity for a while.
decimation: yeah these features are ~30 Si atoms in size, not surprising that photo-lithography is failing
mircea_popescu: decimation yeah it was kinda dead in the water 14nm
nubbins`: now if only you could get rid of the pingbacks ;D
Flerb: Why is this necessary? Was there a lot of spam?
decimation: also of mild interest: http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1323476 << seems intel isn't delivering 14 nm for anything important in the near future
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i made the conditions less draconic.
mircea_popescu: Flerb i linked you above to the explanation. did you read it ?
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mircea_popescu: well that'd do it then.
mircea_popescu: and other than that, it looks that you took at least a few seconds to type your comment in
mircea_popescu: (bots don't load the page on the same pass as they fill the comments - they use spiders, like google)
mircea_popescu: there's a hidden form field based on your ip
mircea_popescu: not a secret, i even published the code.
dignork: and what's with the hammer?
mircea_popescu: oh the neobee shill ?
dignork: Oh well, it's actually a feature, made me to reevaluate the fanciness and give up :)
dignork: ah, yes, possibly i was idling on a page, but then i reloaded, and it still didn't like me
mircea_popescu: dignork it looks for you to actually load the page, and not fill in too quickly.
mircea_popescu: on the street.
mircea_popescu: sounds like the perfect party to host a pretend-win media party.
asciilifeform: so it was never entirely clear to me why it exists, other than the fact that it wants to and the bezzlatron decrees it
asciilifeform: altera is more or less the 'worst of all worlds' - considerably poorer gate density, shoddier linux toolchain support, and not really winning on price either
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron the prepended dpb is actually fucking clever. how do you do it ? this must be a standard, ima put it on trilema too.
mircea_popescu: <Flerb> I've not seen bticointalk << where you from then ?
mircea_popescu: <dpb_reddit> So, is this webchat legitimate? Or do people just question the person trying to hire lol << aka "herpyderp I know shit, and don't want to adjust. everyone else must adjust to my stupid head. or else i will say the bad thing!!!1"
BingoBoingo: From one of danielpbarron's forum links where he shows people the light and truth
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I upped him, they followed a link here
mircea_popescu: the dpb thing above.
RagnarDanneskjol: on the strreet, yes, but any industrial embedded stuff is still xilinx
Flerb: So how do I get voiced in the future without pming someone?
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: the chess example, or its life version with debt, etc. is really a play on 'hilbert's hotel' << so it is. for as long as the theoretical properties of aleph-cardinals hold in real sets, well... why not.
BingoBoingo: lol danielpbarron is now auto naming his referals in his links here from the forumtrolling
pete_dushenski: iirc it was dr. down who came up with the term "mongoloid"
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: let the permanent record permanently reflect the permanent fact that the economist is a piece of toilet paper upon which down syndrome patients scribble whatever shit happens through their head. << kablamm!
BingoBoingo: Flerb: Still, it isn't the sort of thing people get to apologize for since... What else are they hiding
mike_c: well, IP is inherent in the pinging :)
RagnarDanneskjol: no - they are mostly right, you prolly have a lot to learn about all this stuff prior to launching a business, so consider this your hazing
kakobrekla: because there is infinite liquidity on btc market cazalla doh
dpb_reddit: nah, asking the community
kakobrekla: check the logs?
dpb_reddit: So, is this webchat legitimate? Or do people just question the person trying to hire lol
dpb_reddit: They are not super risky. They profit very consistently. Of course I cannot guarantee 100% of the time, but it generally does profit well and gets your money back. Backtests can show this. Kakobrekla, please do not be disrespectful, I am being honest here.
dpb_reddit: Well there are wallets, pretty easy to store bitcoins. Our bots will be very easy to use, interface is super clean.
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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the chess example, or its life version with debt, etc. is really a play on 'hilbert's hotel'
kakobrekla: so, having some fx experience, i can tell you there just one kind of bots for sale on this planet. the ones that dont work.
dpb_reddit: I have also written my own bot, but the bots we are selling are created much more professionally than I can make
dpb_reddit: The reason we are starting with the trading software is because if someone is new to bitcoins, we are providing the easiest, and best profiting bots out so far - our product is done, but we are looking for more developers and backtest feature
BingoBoingo: And why start with trading software if your target audience is the everyman?
dpb_reddit: I am one of the 2 co-founders, currently a 5 man operation - we are launching in 5 weeks
dpb_reddit: Hi! CryptyLabs LLC will be creating a suite of services to make the use and accessibility of Bitcoins easier for everyone. The first product being created in our suite is trading software, commonly known as bots. We plan to launch in 5 weeks under they CryptyBots brand. We are looking for person(s) who can fill one or both of the following position(s): 1. Software/bot trading developer 2. Backtest Developer Best candidat
mod6: there isn't going to be a screen shot of that ;>
BingoBoingo: Oh, the Greyhawk NPC is already in Euloria
nubbins`: drawback to this method is you can't cure the ink between colors
mircea_popescu: by the time people actually figure out the nsa is NOT what they'd buy if they had the money to buy a nsa and were in the nsa market...
mircea_popescu: what this entire thing depends on is the nigger'
mircea_popescu: next game, let someone else handle the problems.
mircea_popescu: which you know, in some approaches to politics, such as would for instance be favoured by temporary figureheads elected by a democracy, and supported by an unmovable bureaucracy, is the whole of my job.
nubbins`: printer takes a squeegee and screen w/ 2 holes on top, slips screen onto first set of dowels, prints, steps to the right, repeat
mircea_popescu: the problem is, it cost me more to win than it's worth. but i won it.
nubbins`: set up like 200-500 shirts at a time on these huge long tables, each shirt has 2 wooden dowels sticking out of the board above it
mircea_popescu: however, no pro in the world can beat someone with three queens on the table. and so he consents.
nubbins`: in the philippines, they do a lot of peg-and-hole printing, you could theoretically do 150-color designs no sweat
mircea_popescu: now this is actually +ev for the opponent : he probably can't beat a pro on even figures, so giving an extra gueen is not much to give.
mircea_popescu: ll let you play with two extra queens on the rematch"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform let's model this with a game of chess. suppose there's ten of us in a room. nine are amateurs, i am a rated pro.
thestringpuller: the "mythical" 150 screen press serves as a better motivator ;)
thestringpuller: they don't have to know you actually don't
nubbins`: there were only like 6 or 7 colors in there to begin with. it's just that for some reason she put each stroke in its own layer
nubbins`: thestringpuller it'd be cumbersome
nubbins`: anyway, clearing through the backlog. 150-ish two-sided cards and another hundred shirts and i'm in the clear for digging into the bitcoin posters
nubbins`: as i can't fit 150 screens on the press, this is reduced to 4 layers
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
thestringpuller: everytime I see cookies won't work i think people are like "i don't like cookies. they aren't delicious"
mircea_popescu: this is why the soviet union collapsed cleanly, whereas the libertard union will not.
mircea_popescu: "how great would it be if we cut off everyone's legs, and hired someone to push them around"
asciilifeform: you're converting their fat to fuel
asciilifeform: that is, it doesn't matter that the well is -EV if expendable slaves are pumping by hand
mircea_popescu: nah, the cripple came up with it all on his own.
mircea_popescu: yeah, the whole story works fine for as long as the expansion of debt remains unrestricted.
asciilifeform: considering that this is rather opposite of the thermodynamics we learned in kindergarten, perhaps deserves explanation ?
asciilifeform: and still not seeing it. a few mil. people in usa evicted, how many shot at the sheriff? ten?
mircea_popescu: every dollar the usg extracts from anything costs it more than a dollar as a precondition of its continued existence.
mircea_popescu: this being the fundamental of rooslvelt's new deal.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform kinda why the credit bubble is required for usg : because all extraction only works if it costs more than it extracts
asciilifeform: ^ canonical book on the history of when extraction was more (or not) expensive for the state, than it is worth
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asciilifeform: ;;google the art of not being governed
nubbins`: book a courtroom, judge, sheriffs officers, all the paperwork that a dozen or two clerks can grab...
mircea_popescu: it cost the sops prolly close to 1mn.
nubbins`: To the judge, she said, “Mr. Supernumerary, why are you still speaking? I’m the only one with standing in this courtroom and have the rights.”
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nubbins`: http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2013-10-12/article-3427331/Member-of-Freeman-on-the-Land-movement-voices-objections/1
asciilifeform: need to find how to make the 'no' stick.
asciilifeform: these folks - a classic illustration of how it is not enough to 'say no'
nubbins`: prior to becoming a life advisor, she'd done stints impersonating a doctor, among other things
nubbins`: the accused was "educated" on the ways of being a freeloader-on-the-land by a mentally ill woman who grew up 4 houses away from me
gribble: The SOPS, or what might you expect from government clerks - Trilema: <http://trilema.com/2013/the-sops-or-what-might-you-expect-from-government-clerks/>; You have no potential. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/you-have-no-potential>; Octombrie 2013 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2013/10>
asciilifeform: anyone have mircea_popescu's article on these handy ?
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nubbins`: !s freeman on the land
asciilifeform: 'LeGuin had told police he was part of the sovereign citizen movement, which believes the federal, state and local governments operate illegally.'
asciilifeform: chetty: cave man (or airplane man) is not an automatic born champion at saying 'no'. which is how we got 'the state' to begin with.
asciilifeform: ^ for non-usaians, this is a result of the peculiar custom of u.s. police using firemen as human shields
asciilifeform: 'When Dallas firefighters drove by the house, LeGuin allegedly started shooting at them. He hit the fire truck at least twice, police said.'
mircea_popescu: they don;t really need it.
asciilifeform: at some point, one or more of the folks lowered into bitcherasty by usg will have a logical, adequate response.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing "surreal" about it and it's not going away. it will have your throat slit if you persist. love, mp.
assbot: The SOPS, or what might you expect from government clerks pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: Maj. Jeff Cotner of the crimes against persons division said the whole incident was surreal. Ive been here 32 1/2 years. This is bizarre, he said. <<< dear usg worker, do yourself a favour, read http://trilema.com/2013/the-sops-or-what-might-you-expect-from-government-clerks/ today.
mircea_popescu: "LeGuin did tell a 911 call taker that he intended to occupy the Far North Dallas house as a sovereign nation for himself."
the20year: i hear they're aiming for a 0.5% APY
the20year: the litecoin pottery investment?
mircea_popescu: http://www.ziuaconstanta.ro/images/stories/2014/08/03/radu-mazare_stefan-cel-mare/radu-mazare_stefan-cel-mare_1.jpg << this guy is the mayor of a seaside romanian town.
asciilifeform: (and the by now known to virtually everyone nsa typewriter trick)
asciilifeform: with a spark gap for the audio source
asciilifeform: principle is ancient though. it's how the first 'artist tablets' worked
asciilifeform: ers tells which key was pressed... Its corrosion resistant, impervious to the environment, and yes it will work underwater.'
asciilifeform: 'This extremely rare type of keyswitch actually presses a fake switch, similar to the Cherry MX Blue jumping bean mechanism... Underneath each row of keys is an isolated transfer bar, which the sliding beans strike. On each end of the bar, a transducer (i.e. microphone or piezo) picks up the sound of the strike transmitted through the bar. The difference in arrival time between the two transduc
asciilifeform: pipetting liquids in a predefined volume all day long is not one of these cases
assbot: How Intel Grooms Its Leaders The succession formula is downright revolutionary: It picks CEOs years in advance, without drama or surprise. - July 1, 2004
mircea_popescu: http://money.cnn.com/magazines/business2/business2_archive/2004/07/01/374834/ << for historical interest. this is how the party records looked back when the usg had few and marginal enemies, a solid grip on power, and people looked at the usgisation of places like intel as a Good Thing.
mircea_popescu: there's no need for two guys to come up with ways to test the mdma. one's enough. there may be need for three dudes to implement the testing, however.
mircea_popescu: you recall the romanian bridgebuilding joke ?
mircea_popescu: then results compared at moscow
mircea_popescu: alternatively, they do all 3 in different gulag stations
asciilifeform: one calls out recipe steps; one actually tightens the bolt, whatever; one - verifies. then they all sign.
mircea_popescu: if not, the roman triumvirate works as invention too
mircea_popescu: the courts can';t afford it and the das don't want it, but that is immaterial here i'd guess.
mircea_popescu: have three of them.
assbot: Annie Dookhan, former state chemist who mishandled drug evidence, agrees to plead guilty - Metro - The Boston Globe
mircea_popescu: jacking off is also usually done with bots, nevertheless athletes usually can afford stripper service.
asciilifeform: when i studied ochem (admittedly a while ago) telling the two apart still required a human who could read spectra reasonably well
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Amphetamines are which is what the test was positive for. His story is MDMA, because recreational drugs have a lesser penalty (counseling vs. unpaid 4 game suspension)
mircea_popescu: (also author of the sec, in case anyone missed the memo on what exactly the play is "undo the new deal", should they continue unaligned.)
mircea_popescu: according to these, roosevelt was going out of office.
mircea_popescu: they got ~2.5mn responses.
mircea_popescu: here's a funny story from the past : in 1936 (ie, after the disastrous effects of roosevelt's socialist inanity became apparent to anyone worth the mention), literary digest sent out 10mn questionnaires to all the people buying it + anyone with a car or a phone.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the point i had buried under all that failpaste is... wtf, "petrodollar scam breaking down plz send me paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr dollar instead" ?
mircea_popescu: Brother Nathanael
mircea_popescu: and mpex.ws is back in the game too.
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mircea_popescu: anything is promised when the matter at hand is extending the life of promise as a thing into the world.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, they aren't in fact, but surely, such is promised.
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones yeah, no practical way for an unwotted system to work otherwise.
los_pantalones: for whatever price i want, bankrupt the co and walk out w/ cash
los_pantalones: as they should
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in bankruptcy proceedings, suspect trades of the management can be attached to the proceedings.
los_pantalones: i told him he was a moron and welcome to the litigation party
los_pantalones: was my argument to my buddy who thought about pulling the trigger
mircea_popescu: they did :)
los_pantalones: not sure if anyone did the trade
los_pantalones: i told them to eff off