mircea_popescu: you're not the master of the fucking world on other people's money. suppose you were a plumber and i hired you to build me a toilet on the ceiling. after you explained to me this design i have is idiotic, as long as i'm paying you;d better build it.
RagnarDanneskjol: because they would be spending an inordinate sum of money on me and devs I locate to build something I know to be rotten
RagnarDanneskjol: king through an interpreter).. yet they are determined to move forward. i am inclined to pass on it altogether unless I can convince them to build a solution that doesnt so explicitly violate the laws of capital-debt / reality
RagnarDanneskjol: I have a moral dilemna. This company in China wants to retain me to hire them a team of devs to build them a chinese version of ripple. They have an enormous budget and the account would be a boon for my business. Of course ripple is junk as so nicely described here: http://trilema.com/2013/ripple-the-definitive-discussion/. I've tried to reason and communicate this to them (i am wor
RagnarDanneskjol: I love the ozarks. All those lakes and hillbillies
BingoBoingo: So here's a quick preview of something from a post I'm working on: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Missouri.png
mircea_popescu: "Turns out, the post is complete junk. It's about as thoughtful and informative as the Nigerian 411 scam. Let's analyze the post, top-to-bottom."
mircea_popescu: a nm, thought it's the same old link for some reason
assbot: Aaron Toponce : What's The Matter With PGP?
punkman: damn heisenbugs, girl was just here, I tell her come check out the weird-colored monitor, and it fucking fixed itself!
mircea_popescu: They barely bring in a dollar a week for this site. They can be distracting, they can be frustrating and even annoying at times but they appear because they do bring something in, no matter how little and Mike applies every bit they earn to paying the ever increasing bills this site is faced with on a daily basis."
mircea_popescu: "I know some of this stems from the fact the website contains advertisements. A great debate has taken place internally about those advertisements.
cazalla: pete_dushenski, "Yes, dear People Of The World, you belong to your family, your faith, and your traditions, not your nation. Where else does this exist than perhaps countries such as Japan? Families have been destroyed, faith abandoned, very little tradition left. What's left but nationalism? (I started to fall into this trap).
mircea_popescu: "Weve seen the criticisms from a certain IRC channel where he and the site is being put down for trying to raise some capital."
mircea_popescu: minus the spelling, but hey.
mircea_popescu: "In the spirit of being open and transparent (a guiding principal of this site and our editorial policies), I am adding this note to this story and taking full responsibility that I have failed our readers and offering my most sincere apologies."
BingoBoingo: "Analysts who study the opaque American political system, in which all provinces are granted semi-autonomous self-rule, warned that Nixon may seize the opportunity to move against weakened municipal rulers in Ferguson." << Surprisingly accurate given how St Louis county is organized
BingoBoingo: Missouri is the most plainly American of the states with it's own east and west coasts (St Louis and Kansas City), and the capitol is a desolate hell hole
pete_dushenski: i actually saw a pic of some tibetan monks there lol
pete_dushenski: pretty much nail to head there
gribble: Missouri bellwether - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_bellwether>; Bellwether - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellwether>; Missouri slips from political bellwether status this fall - USA Today: <http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-06-24/missouri-no-longer-political-bellwether/55795366/1>
BingoBoingo: ;;google Missouri bellweather
assbot: How we'd cover Ferguson if it happened in another country - Vox
pete_dushenski: http://www.vox.com/2014/8/15/6005587/ferguson-satire-another-country-russia-china << kinda lulzy
pete_dushenski: "'We must use all means at our disposal to end the violence and restore calm to the region,' Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov"
pete_dushenski: "Chinese and Russian officials are warning of a potential humanitarian crisis in the restive American province of Missouri, where ancient communal tensions have boiled over into full-blown violence."
mircea_popescu: i have an idea, let's all call ourselves things we aren't and then do a shitty job of it.
mircea_popescu: not put up a note to insulate himsefl from them. this is like... antiprofessional.
mircea_popescu: an editor's job is to EDIT, which means protect the fucking copywriters from their own idiocy
mircea_popescu: hey, my grandfather loved it.
mircea_popescu: "Here, Quantrill took up a job in the lumberyards, unloading timber from rail cars. One night while working the late shift, he shot a man to death. Authorities briefly arrested Quantrill, who claimed self-defense. Since there were no eyewitnesses and the victim was a stranger who knew no one in town, William was set free."
cazalla: mircea_popescu, might've upgraded it, this is just after d3 lauched so don't really remember, point being i doubt they need a kickstarter to continue blogging
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The only thing he could have done better would have been to completely erase Lawrence Kansas
mircea_popescu: fluffypony he was here earlier too. what's he doing these days ?
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.31 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 0.00 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.44 TH/s
gribble: William Quantrill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Quantrill>; Quantrill's Raiders - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantrill's_Raiders>; PBS - THE WEST - William Clarke Quantrill: <http://www.pbs.org/weta/thewest/people/i_r/quantrill.htm>
BingoBoingo: It wouldn't be the first time such things happened in Missouri
mircea_popescu: fluffypony yeah the original was a more or less adult dude. acct may have been sold i hear.
BingoBoingo: "Given these deliberate, coordinated and intensifying violent attacks on lives and property in Ferguson, I am directing the highly capable men and women of the Missouri National Guard to assist Colonel Ron Replogle and the Unified Command in restoring peace and order to this community."
fluffypony: and then went quiet from July 2013, popped his head up for 1 comment in September, and then suddenly in May this year is back and supporting some crappy scamcoin
BingoBoingo: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/08/17/ferguson_police_fire_tear_gas_at_protesters_before_second_night_of_curfew.html
mircea_popescu: cazalla: i had a diablo blog doing 1m uniques a month and it was fine on $20 month vps << that's pretty impressive for the vps.
assbot: View the profile of bitcoinbear
mircea_popescu: fluffypony the mod ?
gribble: You rated user grubles on Fri Nov 23 22:04:49 2012, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: None.
pete_dushenski: those plaid skirts are hanging from the ceiling fan ;)
pete_dushenski: very proper on paper, but filth nasty when the bell rings
mircea_popescu: i mean asciilifeform needs it to prop up his "competence behind the incompetence" theory, but otherwise in practice it's not observed.
xmj: what is it with catholic schoolgirls these ays?
pete_dushenski: perhaps a better example is the stereotypical catholic schoolgirl
pete_dushenski: well if the skvirels are selecting agents based on a code of sorts, and letting in mannings and the like while pretending to do so, this is a bit like soccer players who speak of professionalism and dive when their opponent looks at them funny
pete_dushenski: or the russians?
mircea_popescu: well i imagine asciilifeform's theory is that snowden is kosher while i gave manning as an example of not.
pete_dushenski: i feel just fine either way :)
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu finally finished the monumental flesh vs. machine article. doesn't seem your thoughts on english speakers have much changed.
mircea_popescu: (and i didn't think much of english speakers back in 2010, either.)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: If you're going to really be the best MP scholar you can be, you need to be able to tackle the Romanian writings << sorry folks. i didn't do it on purpose, i just had nfi we'll end up here.
mircea_popescu: hanbot: np << i think hanbot read them all.
mircea_popescu: and that way i won't have to put you back on ignore either.
mircea_popescu: the advice is to stfu and read. which is hopefull what yu've been doing the past year or so
mircea_popescu: <usagi> Well Bingo it's true I am eccentric. I am pretty sure a lot of people think i'm nuts. But dangerous? I'm just asking what the deal is with that one <<< you massively overestimate your own ability, and then derp about it in an unconvincing but ceaseless manner which entraps the more idiotic bystanders.
usagi: Bingo, when tahoe-lafs loses a 300 btc private key, the situation is "sad". When I lose zero BTC in a development site web wallet I get videos made about me.
usagi: And it's likely as a result of the continuous name dropping in this channel despite me not being here for 9 months.
usagi: Well Bingo it's true I am eccentric. I am pretty sure a lot of people think i'm nuts. But dangerous? I'm just asking what the deal is with that one
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: If it didn't seem destined for the BadBat category would make an interesting BitBet
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: I mean the 1992 LA riots only really lasted what, six days? << how long do you think a town will burn.
usagi: You formed an opinion of me based on what other people have said
BingoBoingo: usagi: I've read the history and your interactions with others. I actually don't think you are a scammer at all. I still think you are incredibly dangerous.
BingoBoingo: It's just kind of assumed they get read
BingoBoingo: usagi: The logs are public
cazalla: BingoBoingo, i can't find the apology article, perhaps it's been removed but that sites was taking reddit posts, rewriting them, upboating them to the top and attracting a lot of traffic, i speculate the site was sold to someone who wanted to do it up and improve the quality but no proof, just a hunch
BingoBoingo: Information is worthless in the hands of people who can't interpret it
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> nothing's changed since 2011 but the knowledge gap. much deeper nao. << Probably the reading comprehension gap as well
mircea_popescu: <usagi> yeah and I'm not a tomato lol (relevance?) << check it out kako. tomato is not a scammer either!
mircea_popescu: nothing's changed since 2011 but the knowledge gap. much deeper nao.
mircea_popescu: <usagi> But MP kept shitting all over GLBSE. Maybe he knew something, maybe he didn't, back then we didn't really know << i knew things the lot of you didn't before it was even cool.
assbot: Primecoin is STILL our best investment advice, recent actions verifies the shift - Cryptocurrency News, Bitcoin Trading Analysis | Cryptocurrency News, Bitcoin Trading Analysis
cazalla: archive.org still has them, for example http://web.archive.org/web/20131125003002/http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2013/11/21/primecoin-still-best-investment-advice-recent-actions-verifies-shift
cazalla: hmm, a lot of the older posts have been deleted
RagnarDanneskjol: did you see the club's office building - seems legit http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/bitcoin-invest-trade.jpg
cazalla: i'm trying to find the article atm BingoBoingo
cazalla: if i had to guess, the site was prob sold to someone else who did it up
cazalla: ccn had a scammy investment club of which altcoins they were gonna pump and even went as far as publishing an article apologins for all the spammy shit they post
BingoBoingo: I mean my shared hosting survived an intense /. admirably though my long term plans for the blog lean towards dedicated hardware for other reasons.
cazalla: ccn is one of the spammiest blogs out there, it improved a little over the past year but it's just as bad as coindesk
BingoBoingo: Also that coinfire thing seems to have slowed to a trickle since their lulzy blowup over really needing money but being too obsessed with their "image" as they imagine it to explore how to actually get money http://coinfire.cf/2014/08/12/opinion-motivation/
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell Heysteve Have you thought about taking your reporting talents elsewhere or going independent? The general quality of this thing you are writing for seems to be tanking and an exit plan is probably advisable.
BingoBoingo: You know the relationship between this outlet HeySteve writes for and this one mining hardware company seems way to cozy http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/gawminers-introduces-hashlet-shopify-crashes/2014/08/16
pete_dushenski: that still opens up a whole whack of material, which is really the point
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: If you're going to really be the best MP scholar you can be, you need to be able to tackle the Romanian writings
BingoBoingo: hanbot: That's the one, thank you.
ben_vulpes: maybe not *you* and maybe not *my* death, but you get the picture.
ben_vulpes: "i may not agree with what you say, but i'll defend to the death your right to say it"
pete_dushenski: the touchiness of some people
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: @therealgrubles: @pete_dushenski http://trilema.com/2013/rape-is-fun-or-lets-fuck-up-adria-richards/ … http://trilema.com/2014/patriarchy-is-a-thing-because-nobody-likes-living-in-a-world-populated-by-little-girls/ … you support this guy?
pete_dushenski: TheNewDeal: nope
pete_dushenski: TheNewDeal: depends how you define "deal
TheNewDeal: kakobrekla , you in the house?
BingoBoingo: I mean the 1992 LA riots only really lasted what, six days?
ben_vulpes: if the folks in power'd just let the angry people run in circles for a day or two this shit'd have burnt itself out, no? instead, they make the whole thing worse.
BingoBoingo: Well, the problem with this cooperative multiagency deal is that no one knows what's going on and no one is effectively in charge
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Basically the first night when the Highway Patrol took over there was much peace and reconciliation like Christmas 1914. Then the shitstorm resumed.
TheNewDeal: THE ONLY DICTIONARY
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gitgo | Slang term referring to the very beginning of any sequence or time frame. I knew Bush would be a nightmare from the gitgo! by Feets_dont_fail_me_now October ...
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=getgo | getgo. from the very beginning. Could be a shortened form of the American quality of "get up and go". Might also be a shortened form of what the cowboy said to ...
ben_vulpes: get go, TheNewDeal
usagi: <+danielpbarron> Bitcoin is not about teaming up with the USG
usagi: If you have to fight the government for your freedom then do so, beyond that I don't see what dragging the us government into things accomplishes
usagi: The government has as much to do with bitcoin as it does with you believing in the whole bible
usagi: The government has nothing to do with this
usagi: The government?
usagi: So the party line does not apply as far as I know. If you have different information I would love to hear it
usagi: Today, I'm seeing the same thing with havelock. But with havelock the situation is different. I have been informed they are compliant.
usagi: But MP kept shitting all over GLBSE. Maybe he knew something, maybe he didn't, back then we didn't really know
usagi: The issue is that no one really knew how things would play out
usagi: pgp keys do not shield you against legal action by the government
usagi: Back in the day -- can anyone tell me -- what was the difference between GLBSE and MPEX? To prove a point
usagi: TheNewDeal; You poor soul. You've been infected.
usagi: Their laws :p
usagi: TheNewDeal; What's a bullshit exchange?
usagi: TheNewDeal; Like I said; TU.SILVER paid out everyone what was owed. BMF merged with Tu.SILVER, and I'm paying off the investors. I just made two payments this weekend to investors. I'm handling it.
TheNewDeal: well if you pick bullshit "exchanges" in the first place, aren't you asking for trouble?
usagi: LIke I said bingo. The difference between you and me as a fund manager is that I have lived through 3 exchange closures and you suck up to the crowd here
TheNewDeal: well give me the longer version of what happened to your prior enterprises, and let me actually format an opinion
usagi: Bingo, Rating me -10 because of that is a little pathetic
usagi: Bingo, you hate me because I spoke the truth about you
BingoBoingo_: usagi: You are the most dangerous kind of Idiot, because you seem to sincerely believe that your good intentions make up for all of your poor outcomes
TheNewDeal: or you do business with other scammers?
usagi: but that there's a small clique of people on #assets that hate me because bitcoin
usagi: thenewdeal; So if you talked to everyone I have a rating with, what would you see
TheNewDeal: I had the impression that WOT doesn't tell you something, it merely points you in the direction of people to talk to in order to format an opinion
usagi: The funny thing about wot is it is actualy disproving some of the crap people like bingoboingo have said about me
gribble: You rated user usagi on Sun Aug 17 10:48:58 2014, with a rating of -2, and supplied these additional notes: https://twitter.com/UsagiMeijin ; doesn't know how to WoT http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-otc/logs/2014/08/17#l1408286607.
usagi: MP himself has written a number of interesting articles about it. Gotta hand it to the man he is educating people somewhat
usagi: Besides I deal in physical things, real estate, and education -- these are not the sort of businesses that get funding here
TheNewDeal: gotta compare the opportunity cost
usagi: Very few of my business ever came from IRC, and all of the negativity did
usagi: To be honest the main reason I dont come here so often is because it is a waste of time :/
TheNewDeal: not sure about your case in particular, but they usually can smell a scam out before it stinks
usagi: If you have been here for any length of time you are aware the regulars here like to name drop that I am a scammer
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask usagi!~tsukino22@unaffiliated/tsukino. Trust relationship from user ben_vulpes to user usagi: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -5 via 5 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ben_vulpes&dest=usagi | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=usagi | Rated since: Mon Jun 18 12:33:55 2012
usagi: I have about 20oz or so lying around belonging to others
usagi: The deal with TU.SILVER is the same as with BMF. It never wanted to close, but it did because the exchange folded. In TU.SILVER's case, we were a depository. So there are still a few customers who have not requested their silver
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gitgo | Slang term referring to the very beginning of any sequence or time frame. I knew Bush would be a nightmare from the gitgo! by Feets_dont_fail_me_now October ...
usagi: Well basically I ran Tu.SILVER on bitfunder, and when bitfunder closed down I had to ship everyone their silver
usagi: I'm getting the funny feeling you are insinuating I've been scamming without actually knowing what went on
TheNewDeal: what happened, if you could give me the tldr
TheNewDeal: new scams on the horizon?
TheNewDeal: usagi's in the house!
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask ben_vulpes!~user@unaffiliated/benkay. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user ben_vulpes: Level 1: 3, Level 2: 12 via 9 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BingoBoingo&dest=ben_vulpes | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=ben_vulpes | Rated since: Sun Mar 10 13:57:45 2013
mircea_popescu: total btc payments that didn't go where they were supposed to or got lost to date ? 0.
mircea_popescu: here's an element of risk : visa misplaces something to the tune of 1k payments EACH MONTH.
TheNewDeal: I wonder if someday these people will be forced into understanding, or continue to be galavanting neurosis
mircea_popescu: mad props for reducing the whole story to the familiar form of the ron paul debate tho. "the flaws in bitcoin" and "people do things"
TheNewDeal: I like the ring of that
mircea_popescu: "i have no trust in government and anything not the government is mean and bad."
mircea_popescu: his faith in govt is 0% yet things not in the govt add a huge element of risk.
mircea_popescu: these people.
mircea_popescu: "My trust in government is roughly 0% ... the problem is my faith in people and companies to get over their fear of government and change the status quo is also 0%. For that reason, even if the flaws in Bitcoin could be resolved, the fact that it exists outside of the government's control of the financial sector adds a huge element of risk. "
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal> is A Wealth of Nations a good read? << not bad.
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.45 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 0.00 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 0 TH/s
TheNewDeal: didn't even think of that. Was a joke nonetheless
dignork: TheNewDeal: gpg has a fingerprint, relatively short string identifying a key, it can be visually verified by human.
TheNewDeal: so far what I have learned from A Few Thoughts on Cryptographic Engineering: long keys are unsightly, shrink them down to a size that can be visually verified by a human
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.42 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 0.00 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.49 TH/s
ben_vulpes: i still have to prioritize all the possible things to do
ben_vulpes: still, i have to polish this ball of mud to the point where people besides our little cult will throw money at it, and other people are willing to put its ads on their sites first.
mike_c: so logged in again, then it worked.
mike_c: it said 'you're not logged in'. clicked other pages, same result.
mike_c: i was on venue page. logged in separate tab. then clicked 'purchase ads'
ben_vulpes: mike_c: do you recall the sequence of pages that you hit?
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: it's coming
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Nice work on the venues page
mircea_popescu: i would submit they're past their prime and the what has already been heard of them is the most that'll ever be heard of them.
midnightmagic: ethereum
midnightmagic: wtf is up with them anyway
mircea_popescu: cazalla "People like Vitalek who spout off at the mouth are going in the wrong direction and taking you with them, making themselves richer and you poorer in the process." what's more, the you+them sum is also poorer. but yeah.
mircea_popescu: the original unix/linux model.
midnightmagic: working on a codebase of sufficient size is not reasonably doable for a single person, even if that person is working full-time. Temporarily divergent codebases similar to, e.g. NetBSD and OpenBSD, are an excellent example of the fruits of multiple, medium-sized groups working on partially-divergent codebases who together created more in a cohesive whole than either group did on their own.
mircea_popescu: <midnightmagic> ehh.. a brainstorming group of people can generate and then refine, an idea faster than a singular person working alone if the idea is complex. << statement doth not equal proof.
midnightmagic: decimation: how to represent changes in the blockchain reasonably securely without having the entire blockchain available, for example
midnightmagic: ehh.. a brainstorming group of people can generate and then refine, an idea faster than a singular person working alone if the idea is complex. see BIP32 for example, which is the idea of one or two people, but was furthered and fleshed out by more than one.
assbot: Get Social Bitcoin Store Theme With HUGE BONUS & DISCOUNT - Create Your Own eCommerce Store Today
mircea_popescu: http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-forum-classified-ads/979604-get-social-bitcoin-store-theme-huge-bonus-discount-create-your-own-ecommerce-store-today.html#post9439874 << lol i think that's what counts for major custom coding on wf, danielpbarron
mike_c: wtf, twoplustwo is talking about ethereum now??
mircea_popescu: two are usually plenty, just gotta find the right two.
mircea_popescu: no noteworthy advance in cryptography has ever - in three thousand recorded years - the work of a group of five people, let alone ten
midnightmagic: creative cryptography is the only thing that will scale us. :(
mircea_popescu: losing sight of this basic concept is part of what makes the power rangers so retarded.
mircea_popescu: cooperation is the bane of small anything. the reason afghanistan is stil a state whereas the united kingdom is a us dependency has everything to do with the mutual hostility of small groups of afghans. that aside, very little creative work is required or indeed desired in this soup.
midnightmagic: but I'm glad they have an alternative implementation running and syncing.
midnightmagic: setting side the superior net work that cooperating small groups can produce, if they did in fact come up with those ideas their hostility for other people "stealing" them would perhaps be a tad more warranted.
mircea_popescu: the rest... myeah. still got problems.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic the hostility is very necessary.
midnightmagic: fwiw, conformal's btcd segfaults if you sprinkle a forced garbage collection in the wrong place (wtf?), it built a block which some portion of testnet rejected and built a massive fork on over a period of a week, eventually crashing bitcoind (which perhaps suggests that it was btcd's own mining code that created the fork) and they keep taking credit for other peoples' ideas with a tremendous amount of completely unnecessary
decimation: what about those guys writing the altnerative implementation? did they get their version working?
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 8.62 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 0.00 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 0 TH/s
mircea_popescu: yeah, a year after i had been beating them over the head at every turn to fucking do it for like a year BEFORE that.
decimation: that's a depressing conversation. THey would have a point of reference if someone actually documented the protocol.
X-Rob: mircea_popescu: fyi, just running a test of the big rig against that pool
mircea_popescu: eventually outperforming the "scientists" and "foundations" and whatnot ?
mircea_popescu: decimation aren't you impressed with two idiots that don't even know wtf version they cloned
mircea_popescu: in this sense atc appreciating against btc is quite a negative signal for the power rangers.
ThickAsThieves: I'm the Altcoin Chief Scientist
mircea_popescu: decimation more a witness. "so what is the net benefit of all your monkeying ? what doom have you avoided, what riches brought on ?"
mircea_popescu: so here is a "witness" bitcoin, v 0.6 and there is your "improved" 0.10 (lulzy that it's not 1.0 anymoar)
mircea_popescu: atc is strategically important because take for instance the link ThickAsThieves dropped from -dev earlier.
mircea_popescu: an exact clone with a financial bridge. what is the distinction ?
decimation: ThickAsThieves: because controlling the alternatives demonstrates power
ThickAsThieves: Then why fund mining ATC?
ThickAsThieves: "There’s Bitcoin and that’s it, because there can only be one. All the rest of the crap exists only inasmuch as a) it stays theoretical or b) it stays small enough nobody cares. Where a) and b) are only distinct in the derp point of view, otherwise they’re the same thing."
decimation: heh that makes it good business then