mircea_popescu: lobbes turning the knob back to 0 not exactly same ?
lobbes: I guess the point is that it is redundant; pushing up on the main lever has the same effect.
mircea_popescu: however, you eminently can't cancel toasting, it's the paradigmatic enthalpic process, and anyone with a college education (such as, presumably, anyone involved in the production of objects, and in general in any practical portion of white civilisation) would be aware.
lobbes: am I the only one who has seen/used a cancel button on a toaster before? Put toast in for $maxtime, wait until it looks/smells done, hit button and bam, perfect toast.
asciilifeform: 'the toaster has a cancel button on it,' << lol!!
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/actual-anthropology-yet-another-minor-function-of-the-functioning-harem/ << Trilema - Actual anthropology, yet another minor function of the functioning harem.
BingoBoingo: Fox is Murdoch's though it has cucked a lot since he handed it to the kids. CNN is buffalo guy Captain Planet's weird fetish project
BingoBoingo: And in still other post election weird, a CNN stooge touched a female whitehouse intern during an altercation and had his press credential to get into the white house revoked
BingoBoingo: In other US election weird, a KKKalifornia to permanently be off by one hour won.
mircea_popescu: you mean, by the poolside ?
asciilifeform: lol, the ancient prop thing ?!
BingoBoingo: And F-35 means Brasil is going to sell the Super Tucano to the US to support the aging A-10 fleet because F-35 can't help
BingoBoingo: Upside is the Super Hornet lines in St Louis are outliving their expected life due to F-35
BingoBoingo: The day of the Lockheed versus Boeing/McDonnelDouglas trials in Saint Louis, those things dominated all 4 channels on tv all day. The Lockheed selection was only beat in local media sad by 9/11
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's brother was stuck working with ce for a while, informs that among such wretches it is pronounced : 'wince'
asciilifeform: and noshit, they dun spit it out, it will buy moar f-35.
mircea_popescu: well yes. it is after all a http://trilema.com/2018/democracy-sucks-the-two-thousand-four-hundred-and-change-years-old-version/
asciilifeform: sorta how the massive 'social security' tax is still collected 100%, even tho nobody with half a brain expects to see the pension thing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to quote fresh meat, "oh, obamacare's been cancelled". they don't spiut out any more cash
mircea_popescu: bout a third of the total.
asciilifeform: ( i'm completely willing to believe that the part that actually disgorges dough to the 'customers' is off , tho have not had any occasion to try it with own hands, i dun exactly qualify )
BingoBoingo: Because you haven't become a socio of the mutualista Española yet
asciilifeform: seems like it's similar to the 1890s telephone tax -- eternal
asciilifeform: then why am i still being charged for it (via ++ insurance premiums) lol
mircea_popescu: for some reason arresting a third of the judges "unthinkable" in the us, even as having such a thing as "activist judges" perfectly thinkable, and totally not the same as corruption. cuz it's only corruption if it fucks over pantsuit, see, otherwise it's "activism".
BingoBoingo: Not to mention with blue party narrowly holding the House he is in a position to rip of the blue party's balls with cannabis legalization by pushing further on it than the dems are willing to go. Sessions has proved too... southern gentleman to help Trump sell it.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-22 17:28 mircea_popescu: he's rehauling the "obamacare" health bs. which he was fucking voted in to do. snipping all sorts of blue nonsense in the paybook, including surgery for disphorists.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it does things like http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-22#1864888 just more accentuated (which practically means -- cutting http://trilema.com/2016/and-they-wont-fucking-yield/#selection-67.86-67.102 from "academia" support faucet, 10x the size of "social security" support faucet).
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile Session is still burdened by the decision he made to recuse himself from any question touching Russia because he talked to a Russian once apparently without wearing a wire/
BingoBoingo: Consider McCain's lover Lindsey Graham went from being a shy boy to becoming Trump's biggest cheerleader after cancer won the war on McCain.
asciilifeform: 'old wing' not there anymoar?
BingoBoingo: Not particularly. Jeff Sessions as a pick largely served to keep the old wing of the GOP happy.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: With the Senate solidly his it removes a check on Trump's ability to act without constraint.
BingoBoingo: In other lulz of the day, trump crushed the mixed post election headlines by calling in Jeff Session's undated resignation letter
mod6: Ah, thanks for the updated notes file, Sir.
asciilifeform: i suppose in the field, under fire, folx still talk into boxes
asciilifeform: even the 'must talk from toilet' folx send 'text' nao, i thought
a111: Logged on 2018-10-31 15:54 asciilifeform: the problem faced by even fella with a first-class head, when buying 'crypto iron', is a 9000x hypertrophied instance of the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-30#1867790 boojum -- to know what he's getting, he is stuck with much ~harder~ problem than even original maker had in making the artifact to begin with !
a111: Logged on 2018-11-07 18:08 mircea_popescu: i can't imagine who the fuck would be using the crap
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-07#1870044 << that being said, afaik there simply does not exist a non-tard product in that niche
asciilifeform: gotta have the pnoje, neh. how else to view lolcat 5 times daily, like praying to mecca
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i generally don't meet THESE (because "they chose not to", of course).
mircea_popescu: these dumb cunts show up to job interviews, you realise ? expect "respect" and shit ? wanna fucking vote, have oppinions about the world around trhem, what have you
asciilifeform: i'm almost curious what it's actually like to meet these 'people'. in a room. even without 16 bottles.
mircea_popescu: but imo a fine illustration of the degree, structure, magnitude and physiology of "broken" in the "citizen of free world & open society" aka "useless fucktard headed for redditbagging".
mircea_popescu: me either, nfi.
asciilifeform: what, their fingers only move up/down ??
asciilifeform: i dunget it tho, it's got the finger screen neh
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform whatever it is, but the fact their "tool" cuts most of the world out is, according to them, a legitimate complaint to bring UPON THE WORLD.
mircea_popescu: actually... let's put it this way : their terminal cuts at 80cols, right ? and they think "this code does not compile" is an ok reaction to this.
asciilifeform: recall the ancient usenet lul: went something like 'exam. in 8 minutes a hungry tiger will be admitted to exam room. you will find the 11 parts of the rifle under your desk. any questions'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they literally do not understand that their phone cutting random shit off webpages to fit it IS A BUG OF THEIR PHONE.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck cares you couldn't read the exam questions because they were written in japanese with invisible ink ? YOU STILL FAILED! FOR HAVING FAILED! JESUS.
asciilifeform: lol didja rot13 the 2nd half or wat was it
mircea_popescu: it's ever fascinating, how DEEPLY and ~UNTOUCHABLY!!!~ implanted in twentysomething skulls this notion is that they "must have a fair opportunity" according to ~their~ definition of fairness.
mircea_popescu: Hey, life sorts you lot into cans and can'ts. brooccofull I mean the text cute halfway. So I don't even know what that sentence is"
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the other mini-lulz farms : "LordMPofTMSR Not even kidding. brooccofull You do know I can't read the end of that sentence right ? LordMPofTMSR
mircea_popescu: fine wine is up there with ro tuica re post-party effects. it's pretty much all mellow no pain.
BingoBoingo: Ah, one of those hangovers where it takes the second or third sleeps to take it off
mircea_popescu: i sleep quicker than other people, see. what they take eight-nine hours i can accomplish in like almost four.
mircea_popescu: i'm biologically exhausted and i'm advertising this fact to avoid pantsuit politician #metoos from falling over themselves.
mircea_popescu: in other similar news, i tell you nothing's quite like nursing a hangover with teh online world. bought 16 bottles of fine bordeaux yest, partied with naked girls, to the degree of fucking the same one in the ass twice in the same evening (anal queen this chick jayssu) and so on.
BingoBoingo: Also maybe they have a lot of undercover folk and CIs in renvenue generating positions (DEA style) they don't want off'd
mircea_popescu: keks, so basically the dutch are gonna arrest a whole lotta politicians and other momstate items, and they're advertising this so as to avoid embarassment of bitchslapfest ?
mircea_popescu: and no, i don't mean "who among the silk road retards", that part is clear.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: near as i can tell, the usual skypeism
mircea_popescu: either it's encrypted or it's servered.
mircea_popescu: wtf are these "servers" doing anyway ?
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/11/dutch-seize-encrypted-messaging-service-and-make-some-arrests-while-advertising-their-hope-to-make-many-more-arrests/ << Qntra - Dutch Seize "Encrypted" Messaging Service And Make Some Arrests While Advertising Their Hope To Make Many More Arrests
asciilifeform: most 'eprom attack' focuses on angle of 'read back the seekrit config', sumthing that doesn't really affect device where config is published already
asciilifeform: (or simply switcheroo for fresh board in the mail etc)
asciilifeform: q is whether can 'restore virginity' and load in new config; and whether this is actually easier than simply soldering on a fresh one
asciilifeform: the 'can't read with optics' does suggest possibility of actual otp tho.
asciilifeform: i have nfi if ice's thing boosts longevity, chances are their 'OTP' is implemented the same way as errybody else's, nowadays, simply a nonwindowed EPROM.
asciilifeform: potentially saves a coupla bux on board cost, at the very least.
asciilifeform: ( the promisetronics with 'difficult to read with microscope, believe!11' thing is, as i gather, for the various folx in the biz of loading $circuit into fpga and selling 'as asic' , it isn't of great interest to asciilifeform in particular )
asciilifeform: in other notes from last wk's dig, turns out that ice40 contains onboard otp rom , enuff to store whole config ( somehow i read the docs '9000' times prev. and missed this ).
asciilifeform: ( recall the ancient trb flow chart thread )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's esp. egregious imho that gcc dun do this, it has the AST internally, could disgorge. ( gnat fixes some of this 'dun disgorge', it puts some raw structure in the .ali intermediate crapola for 'gnathtml' etc to read )
a111: Logged on 2018-11-06 23:57 asciilifeform: btw in case other folx ( diana_coman ? ) want to make these for ~their~ proggies, process is pretty simple :
mircea_popescu: "take code make it readable". incomprehensible to me why is not a clearly delineated function of code processors. obviously shouild be, much in the vein of yest "fix your terminal" discussions
BingoBoingo: Never went down to the Pony track?
asciilifeform can't muster excitement for the coke-vs-pepsi tourney
BingoBoingo: Notably the blue party is under performing in Miami
BingoBoingo: I managed to wrassle US cable news onto the wall
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The mid term election fantasy where Trump loses both houses of the legislature.
asciilifeform: but beats the shit out of hand-grep imho.
asciilifeform: phf: it's definitely not perfect, e.g. why the FUCK is FFA_FZ_ZeroP not clickable ?
asciilifeform: phf: the default view ( http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/hypertext/ch11/ ) of gnathtml gives you a frames thing with ~worthless alphabetic index in the left pane. really it oughta show 'where currently clicked symbol used' imho
phf: simplest form of "link to where" can be essentially a grep through all the files (which i think is how lxr used to do it)
asciilifeform: phf: if it were simply 'colorizer' i wouldn't bother.
asciilifeform: 3) -l1 turns on line numbering; -I adds paths to the libraryisms ; -p takes a file containing src_dir=. gpr_file=ffa_calc.gpr .
phf: aah, yes, i remember. i had some rudimentary support for that worked on, but never got to cleaning it up (mostly requires reading through colorize's code, to figure out how to hook into their tokenizer)
asciilifeform: phf: it aint the same at all!
asciilifeform: 1) build whole project, so that the .ali intermediate crud is present
asciilifeform: btw in case other folx ( diana_coman ? ) want to make these for ~their~ proggies, process is pretty simple :
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: in other lulz, google's shitmail login pg no longer worx without js.
BingoBoingo: Apparently it isn't just the peanut butter
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile over here a lot of the longer shelf life imported items in Tienda Inglesa and Devoto have stickers with the local mandatory information stuck on labels printed for the Venezualan market
BingoBoingo: They have to import cutting agents to pipe it
BingoBoingo: Their oil is thick, very heavy stuff
mircea_popescu: and in the process eldering every day...
asciilifeform: on subj of venezuela, BingoBoingo how's that chix these dayz
BingoBoingo: They prolly ask Venezuala to sink an aircraft carrier
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: say they were to vote 'nope' -- and usg wants parking spot anyway. with what they will shoot'em ? that 18th spanish cannon on the pit bull beach ?
BingoBoingo: In unsurprises as Uruguay's legislature debates letting US warplanes chill at Carrasco for the G20 summit... The party favoring US Troops is the Socialist Fat Forehead party. The Party opposing is the Partido Nacional (or blancos, the rough Uruguayo GOP equivalent)
mircea_popescu: chimp thread all over again -- you gain something for denser packed muscle fiber w/o the human innervation
asciilifeform: astonishingly strong, too -- chain the tube to a fence, and some % of the time he'll walk away with the fence plank + tube
asciilifeform: ( interestingly, there's precisely 1 kind of trap that worx on him -- iron tube filled with bait, and trigger requires ~pull~, rather than push, he cannot pull with stick, ends up scooping it with bait an' pulling )
asciilifeform: raccoon -- crazy-smart , for a vermin, knows what a door is, knows sound of rifle bolt, even (i shit thee not) will defuse traps with sticks etc
BingoBoingo: And if you do put them into a plumbed "modern city" you get Buenos Aires or Montevideo
asciilifeform: wolf supposedly has all kinds of interesting features, can learn even basic tactics, flanking, how to fell moose ( some populations of wolf can do moose, others not ) iirc
mircea_popescu: im sure the mythological wolf does all sorts of hting. but the actual animal... slightly dumber racoon.
mircea_popescu: and your mom told your brother "don't beat him, don't you see how uselessly helpless he is ?!" as opposed to the adult "fuck him, if he can't defend himself it's your duty to cull his dumbass."
asciilifeform: she-wolf sets the pups to fight
mircea_popescu: whereas in actual human society, the EXACT reverse must be applied -- under penalty of undergoing the us transition, from republic to shithole.
mircea_popescu: cuz that's the mystery here, mom discourages the more active, smarter, better kids. and feeds the shitiest most. dun matter if she's a sow, pushing the better kids away from her tit with foreleg so the runts can also get some, or mother inca.
mircea_popescu: but that also comes to an end. like weaning, child has to confront the switch at some point, where he goes from being fed for existence and repressed by capacity to the exact opposite : being repressed for existence and fed by capacity.
asciilifeform: became , seems , the norm.
mircea_popescu: so, yes. socialism necessary stage. parthenogenesis follows orthogenesis, and vice versa, and yes for a stage in kids life there's need for socialist mother-led environment. and for peoples, too.
mircea_popescu still can't forget, during his visit in a troglodyte "best part of" nicaragua, how the socialist party organized event centerpiece was some moron singing "con dinero o sin dinery yo siguo siendo el rey" bla bla bla
mircea_popescu: the whole usgistan thing is a ~necessary~ solvent for the otherwise even-more-imbecile "nation of kings" bullshit.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: Mocky's qatar reportage seems to suggest interesting hypothesis -- that can subtract 'flea and open society'(tm), and even 'aspirational class', and still have idjit deadend camelfuckistan in the sum register
asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Oiro5/?raw=true + http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/L2Jy8/?raw=true << the pertinent bit, flensed of the liquishit , for anyone who actually wants.
mircea_popescu: fuck this dumb shit, this is not written by anyone i wish to have any dealings with. he can go pluck his "feelings" with the rest of the fetlife "dominates".
mircea_popescu: "The choice is not therefore based solely on technical capability but on: personal preferences "
asciilifeform: ( very sadly, there is not a vhdl eater for ice40. but when looking over subj 2w ago, i actually came to like vhdl, it's ~exactly ada syntax. )
mircea_popescu: i don't care they call themselves "students", "intellectuals", "consultants", "public oppinion", "transsexuals" or anything else, jesus fuck.
mircea_popescu: "the relatively easy circumstances of life in paris as compared to the rural provinces has given rise to a class of vagrants (that'd be technically bums, as they do not seek to work) which makes it important that shopkeepers put out free food and there's a voting process so some of these can be given the key to the king's treasury periodically".
asciilifeform: skip the captatio, it has example proggy in ea.
mircea_popescu: wait, the infrastructure adapts to consultants ?
mircea_popescu: "The complexity of ASIC and FPGA designs has meant an increase in the number of specialist design consultants with specific tools and with their own libraries of macro and mega cells written in either VHDL or Verilog. As a result, it is important that designers know both VHDL and Verilog and that EDA tools vendors provide tools that provide an environment allowing both languages to be used in unison."
mircea_popescu: by the algo "la household carrying mn in debt it can't service poorer in fact than ghana farmer with yearly surplus"
mircea_popescu: so yes, egypt quite richer than the us.
mircea_popescu: actually egypt had been pretty successful under mubarak in the ceausescu vein ("non-chinese 20th century industry" sort of thing. like india now)_
asciilifeform: or is it simply the algo of weasel in chicken coop -- 1st kill errything, then decide if even hungry
asciilifeform: what's even there for nulands to loot in egypt ? pyramids ?
mircea_popescu: "we need all the loot we can get" etc.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-06#1869849 lulz : /me just finished going through mubarak's "indictment". item is straight lift from http://trilema.com/2011/procesul-ceausescu/#selection-51.0-57.118 !!!
mircea_popescu: anyway, i suppose morsi should also be mentioned in the list of "great diplomacy successes" of the hilarity era.
asciilifeform: ok model except for the 'better things' -- which better things exactly he went to? kakobreklaing in mexico sadly ?
mircea_popescu: can you form a notion of the feeling of loss ?
mircea_popescu: icepicks come out when the erstwhile office boy takes over the floundering business, and the erstwhile owner's son, who fucked the office boy in all the holes much to the boy's submissive delight back in the day, moves on to better things.
asciilifeform: and even then t had to wait for 2 decades for his
mircea_popescu: stalin and trotsky were butt buddies, yes ? with trotsky being the senior ?
mircea_popescu: "Gülen has suggested the coup was in fact a "self-coup" carried out by Erdoğan to consolidate his grip on power, a belief shared among some analysts and many Turks." ie, "by many '''analystis'''' and no turks".
mircea_popescu: and for a twelve year old GIRL, the "i know you are but what am i!" "strategy" is all the world.
mircea_popescu: because they're mentally twleve, and because their "city on a hill" has been going downhill ever since http://trilema.com/2017/when-did-america-end/ slash they took over, whenever that was. in 1920, for all the diff it makes.
asciilifeform: 'credibility in the international arena' << lol!!
a111: Logged on 2018-11-06 16:06 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in continuing fake news lulz : "On 15 July 2016, a coup d'état was attempted in Turkey against state institutions, including the government and President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.[38] The attempt was carried out by a faction within the Turkish Armed Forces that organized themselves as the Peace at Home Council." << so totally not organized by the same desperate & dying pantsuited hilarity dept of state faction that al
mircea_popescu: to briefly revisit http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-06#1869826 : signature line being "The Council cited [...] and Turkey's loss of credibility in the international arena as reasons for the coup." ; whenever you see that you can be very much certain it's teh usg.blue pantsuit.
mircea_popescu: all the wank about the extra empty chair at passover and so forth is exactly driven by the fact that to mortal ears, the kinds are often hard to distinguish, and this difficulty makes entirely no difference.
mircea_popescu: (and no, eminently NOT "the question is being put to you". because that's the fucking meaning of "offer you can't refuse", also transliterated as "fate took a hand" and so on -- there's two kinds of questions. the kind that goes "would you like waffles for breakfast" is NOT "also a question just like" the kind that goes "would you like to go to qatar". some questions are put to you ; but then again sometimes you are put to so
mircea_popescu: to refuse you must first understand you're being put to the question.
mircea_popescu: should i say to the pigs, "either you cough up teh stones or it's the knife for you" and should the pigs oink-oink, would you say "they refused" ?
a111: Logged on 2018-09-19 16:22 mircea_popescu: think of the whole opposability angle, will you. 1. alf : "your summaries suck" 2. bimbo "master, is this true ?" now i'm stuck. i'm not going to do a 3.b. "yes, because i like him" and i can't do a 3.a. "yes, because ~SOMETHING~" as the something's an undefined symbol.
mircea_popescu: "whether you can code" but whether you can withstand the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-19#1851696 storm. all of it, from end to end.)
mircea_popescu: (but since the parallel was underlined, let's underline another bit of lulz : ye http://trilema.com/2018/the-republic-without-mp/ aspirants of the future, i ask you now : can ~you~ quote as the word of god things you said not "many many years ago" but THE FIRST LINES OUT OF YOUR MOUTH!!! as you were sorta-kinda examining a thing that at the time seemed entirely unimportant to you ? because yes that's the fucking standard, not
asciilifeform: i do expect mircea_popescu will say 'nah, we're in the 'make offer you can't refuse' biz', but seems like they refused, neh
mircea_popescu: i'm not aware we're in the persuading business
asciilifeform: ( how exactly to persuade idjit orc king to build semiconductors , when just 2 or 3 oil wells spoodge out moar moolah than entire taiwan ic industry put together )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to me the parallels to http://trilema.com/2013/noob-mp-or-how-it-all-began/#selection-129.1-133.72 are striking. mocky walks into qatar, says "umm.., nobody here then ?" gets back "yes, there are people here", proceeds to the next line and ... well... ummm...
a111: Logged on 2017-12-08 15:02 asciilifeform: the 'good climate makes folx lazy and slowly climbing 'back up to trees' ' item is an old saw, but i'm not aware of any major hole in the theory
asciilifeform: does seem to fit the pattern of 'folx who get used to money gushing out of the ground, get stupid', as per http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-08#1748753 formula
mircea_popescu: so arranged for a new saudi boss that promptly fucked the peninsula for them, etcetera.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in continuing fake news lulz : "On 15 July 2016, a coup d'état was attempted in Turkey against state institutions, including the government and President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.[38] The attempt was carried out by a faction within the Turkish Armed Forces that organized themselves as the Peace at Home Council." << so totally not organized by the same desperate & dying pantsuited hilarity dept of state faction that al
mircea_popescu: eh, whatever. the history of mankind on earth chiefly consists of a string of "couldn't find way out of paper bag, died next to coconut tree" and so on. why should qatar be special.
asciilifeform: sad to hear re qatar. 'even the best magician cannot pull rabbit from hat unless the rabbit is actually in the hat' or how did it go.
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: "allah blesses, but doesn't chase you down the street with it" or how did it go.
mircea_popescu: Mocky ah, the fact wasn't in dispute.
mircea_popescu: cialis-now-maillettes-foot.com are the spammers! spcglobal.com are the wikitards! BIG DIFFERENCES!!!
asciilifeform: to my untrained eye, indistinguishable from the usual link farm
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform some "think tank" fulla "information workers" or knowledge or whatr was it. because totally, OUR oligarchs are SO VERY NOT THE SAME!!! thing as russia's, and OUR retarded kids are so very unlike the pakistani womens' exact same kids. it's not spammers, therefore, lest you wish to not understand how the world works!
a111: Logged on 2018-11-06 15:08 mircea_popescu: Mocky_ in some real lulz, that spglobal.com site doesn't even load here ; either it's google hosted or i guess cloudflare proxied or who even knows/cares by now, "shitstack" generically.
mod6: Thanks asciilifeform -- updated the Advertised Republican Node page.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i rather agree, qatar didn't manage to do anything with my http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-01#1846537
mircea_popescu: Mocky_ in some real lulz, that spglobal.com site doesn't even load here ; either it's google hosted or i guess cloudflare proxied or who even knows/cares by now, "shitstack" generically.
asciilifeform: mod6 & other trb folx ^^
Mocky: i had myself all worked up to walk into the grand viziers office, lol. was expecting to get shown the door along with distinct sense of closure
Mocky: aaaand... the air conditioner is out
Mocky: ahaha I found him. He's in san francisco discussing mutual collaboration with oracle chix: http://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/article/05/11/2018/Oracle-OpenWorld-event
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-05#1869564 >> I'm glad I spent the half hour on the phone trying to find out where his desk actually is. His office says that he's out of the country and his calendar is full from the time he gets back until he leaves the country again at the end of November
BingoBoingo: But twice it cut aggressive angles as I had to wonder if my foot was going through its head or was I going to have to seperate its head from its body with the box cutter before walking myself to the emergencia
BingoBoingo: Oh he was doing the thing where he let it run off leash on the dogs prohibited beach, whistling it back.
BingoBoingo: So, during beach walk tonight one of the locals nearly lost a young ~30 pound pit bull
a111: Logged on 2018-10-08 00:12 asciilifeform: phf: incidentally i found that sharp inc makes b&w lcd's that run on 0power when holding picture, and beautiful 100% reflector-powered picture. but their biggest is iirc 4 in. and 336 × 536 .
asciilifeform: iirc was originally sold by the same folx who baked http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-08#1859348 item; but naodays chinese, dime a dozen
asciilifeform: ( subj, for the innocent , is simply this thing, a sheet of chemical strange that turns green when you push on it with plastic stake 'pencil', and takes a watch battery, so that when you hit red button it turns black again )
mod6: *nod* good talk, I gotta step aside and yield the floor. gotta check on these preliminary report numbers.
asciilifeform: it gives this aesthetic
asciilifeform: sorta why i ended up with the electric thing
mod6: I dunno, I love to start on a clean board when thinking through things. Otherwise my brain feels some how cluttered.
asciilifeform: worst thing, they're ~impossible to keep clean
mod6: I would probably use slate + chalk myself if I wasn't so weirdly obsessive about needing to keep the board clean. I'd feel like I'd have to wash it all the time after erasure.
asciilifeform: pretty much a mechanized version of the wax tablets folx used 300yrs ago
asciilifeform: can spend the 10bux an' try it yerself
asciilifeform: what it does is cut the dust.
mod6: what does the electricity do for ya?
asciilifeform: mod6: i have an electric chalkboard thingie, but they're just barely usable, imho, need pretty bright light
mod6: asciilifeform: nice. I really need to get to that. I kinda went through a lot of it while you were working on it - but I really wanna sit down and work through each chapter. Got other things on the stack first tho.
mircea_popescu: this was england in the 1920s.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's a something-or-other '-of-women-voters' in usa but afaik it's a straight dnc skin
mircea_popescu: Mass protest meeting organised by the Women's International League for Peace and Freedom, the National Federation of Women Workers, the Federation of Women Teachers, the Women's Co-operative Guild, the Association of Women Clerks and Secretaries and the Fabian Women's Group (tbh that was absolutely everyone) to condemn France for the alleged war crimes committed by the Senegalese. If you're there on April 27 '20, make sure to
mircea_popescu: (perhaps pointing out how "the international women's guild" trying to get a sort of geneva convention going banning 4ever and ever smoking^H^H^H^H i mean rape^H^H^H^H using black soldiers in europe never got anywhere worth a chuckle. they didn't believe women back in the [other] 20s or what was it, helga the rhine rivetteer couldn't do it.)
mircea_popescu: which... gimme a fucking break. for one thing, socialist moron. for the other, i have spare tyres that can write better.
mircea_popescu: i meant more ye olde "jews conspire to bring black degeneracy into the holy land"
BingoBoingo: Hard to say. The "It's okay to be white" fliers appear to get evergreen press attention any time they pop up which is disappointingly infrequently
mircea_popescu: because they quite literally just picked up the "senegalese" bullshit and morel's daily herald nonsense, blew dust off here and there and that's the whole material.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-30 13:07 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-30#1867432 << thinking about it, yes i agree the jew-nazi has a more colorful life story. but think about it : his entire's life work, his sum total accomplishment, is being an aide to an obscure publisher of inconsequential tracts. this is exactly danielpbarron 's position, and it ain't much. that florida beauty queen had them beat, for instance, and she had them beat a) in her 20s, while these
mircea_popescu: speaking of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-30#1867613 "inconsequential tracts" : i r wondering now just how many of the ustarded "cultural commentators" (the boas-ian wanna-be elite, say) actually did figure out the whole "white racism" in the us is cheap rent re-usage of ww1 german props.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's a completely textbook case, aha, of 'we pulled on the duct tape and after 2 tonnes of pull it comes off'
a111: Logged on 2018-11-05 23:08 asciilifeform: gnat is entirely ok with finalization in lib so long as the finalized type aint exported
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-05#1869702 << this sounds entirely like hack, in the proper sense of term -- someone got lazies attack and "nobody would think to check here".
asciilifeform: fwiw i've massaged ffa to the point where it's fully static and the problem dun affect it any. but some of my other stuff (mmap) is hobbled by it.
asciilifeform: just about all the interesting ones, are, aha
asciilifeform: my aim is to eventually start patching these, rather than cranking out oddball workarounds.
bvt: what i have fished out trying to solve the problem is that only a subset of restrictions should be contagious
asciilifeform: the standard specifically promises that restrictions can be applied to narrow sections of coad. therefore gotta be made to work!
asciilifeform: it isn't actually practical, as i currently understand, to build a large, nontrivial proggy with all of the restrict pragmas switched on.
asciilifeform: the latter suxx because it infects the caller with the full pragma-restrictiveness of the lib.
asciilifeform: ( what 'genericism' does in ada, is to force the compiler to rebuild a copy of the lib for erry time the exported type is invoked in the caller. at which point may as well tell user to drop the src into his, rather than link the lib, the effect is the same )
asciilifeform: the 1 workaround i've found is to make the lib 100% generic 'all the way down', but it's ugly imho
asciilifeform: gnat is entirely ok with finalization in lib so long as the finalized type aint exported
asciilifeform: the standard, btw, does not say any such thing as 'using finalization breaks staticity', it seems to be 100% gnat breakage rather than 'standard forbids'
asciilifeform: current ffa relies on the user/caller to wipe
asciilifeform: ( it's not a wholly useless thing, i dun have it in current ffa but my 1st draft used it to wipe all data on the stack erry time it goes out of scope )
asciilifeform: some language features seem to break the 'encapsulability' , e.g. finalization
asciilifeform: this pattern is not really escapable if yer using the restrictions
asciilifeform: bvt: i structured it so that the moar-restriction-y stuff ends up in static libs that get linked ~into~ the less-restrictiony demolade ( rather than vice-versa ), and so that the lib is statically linkable to begin with
asciilifeform: bvt: it's structured the way it is, for a reason