kanzure: seems like they would have an easier time using regtest
kanzure: why would someone bother doing that on testnet?
mircea_popescu: (only artificial orcs exist. mp knows, for mp has lived all over the world. actual poor people are more pleasant than actual civilised people)
decimation: you gotta admit the pure chutzpah of trying to buy beer with 'school supply' donations
decimation: " The oldest of the boys, about 12ish, menaced her, got in her face and said, "Fuck you, bitch! You owe us!", while momma smirked in approval. "
asciilifeform: like tolkien's orcs, these were built artificially and with great care.
mircea_popescu: She wasn't talking to me, but I could hear her saying, "It wasn't supposed to be like this, they're so ugly, it's just so wrong." << woman met the orcs, hasn't even been raped yet.
decimation: hehe yeah the other link at the bottom is good too: http://hopelesslysane.blogspot.com/2014/08/the-other-entitlement-class.html "We have millions of these privileged entitlement folks. They are the ones populating the Ivy League schools preparing for their rise to power over the nation. They have never worked a real job, never produced anything, never been allowed to fall on their faces, never been allowed to fail and deal with the
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu and its not the bots one wants to filter - its lines starting with '!s' and assbots replies 'x results for ..'
assbot: The Lonely Libertarian: Gratitude
decimation: "Then the whole RoseArt versus Crayola battle. The kids at the Salvation Army fair got RoseArt, almost half the cost of Crayola, and that's what the vouchers covered. But the RoseArt supplies were hardly touched and the Crayola was wiped out. At the registers, the fights started over, "My kids don't want none of that RoseArt shit, are you saying they ain't good enough for the good stuff? Only white kids get the good stuff?""
mircea_popescu: mthreat how did the exclusion clauses work in search agai ?
mircea_popescu: but for the average noob, history | grep history yields a lot of... "history | grep history"
mircea_popescu: it does convey the information that the thing was searched later, and you can exclude bots if you wish.
mircea_popescu: the uni prof can't start at 22.
penguirker: New blog post: http://cascadianhacker.com/./blog/2014/08/29_coinbase-insurance-cold-storage-uninsured-nothing-insured-against-the-government.html
mircea_popescu: the call girl however can start at 12.
mircea_popescu: most call girls can push it past 40ish if they want to
decimation: asciilifeform: most 'public' schools in the us require the same, always a source of amusement for the young ones
kanzure: the textbook industry spends about $3B/year on marketing- but have you ever seen an ad for a textbook?
chetty: <mircea_popescu> the average call girl makes a lot better money than the average uni prof.// but much shorter career
kakobrekla: <asciilifeform> decimation: this almost happened when cheap 'xerox' copiers appeared < when i was in high school you could legally copy 70% of the book .... at once.
decimation: considering scholars 500 years ago would transcribe the professor as he lectured, and then take turns reading the only copy of the course text, kids today have it great
mircea_popescu: and they are very poor professors.
midnightmagic: It's already a good chunk of the way there. Many courses at local universities have entirely virtual course materials and reading lists.
asciilifeform: decimation: the textbook racket responded by changing books (mainly exercises) around as often as they could
decimation: one wonders with the ease of finding scans/native text of a great many published textbooks - how long until the college bookstore becomes a thing of the past?
asciilifeform: also recommend: 'the maxwellians' (b. j. hunt)
assbot: Reading List: The Man Who Changed Everything (Fourmilog: None Dare Call It Reason)
asciilifeform: decimation: most of these aren't meaningfully searchable anyway
decimation: reading scans on the computer sucks, but it's useful for searching references
asciilifeform: decimation: of the patch
MolokoDesk: sometimes there's something to be said for equlibrium.
mircea_popescu: i wonder what the divorce rate would look like if it worked the other way areound. doing it five times a week = +1 inch a year.
MolokoDesk: I gotta get back to the pacific. Surf's up.
MolokoDesk: these asymmetries.
mircea_popescu: MolokoDesk your penis ? sorry to be the harbringer of sad news, but... it doesn't scale in the future, it shrinks in the future.
MolokoDesk: agreed. we'll see how it scales in the future.
mircea_popescu: the former is a better use of your time.
diametric: there really isn't anything to maintain..
MolokoDesk: eternal vigiliance is the price etc etc...
MolokoDesk: I do understand the utility of it, obviously.
mircea_popescu: no it's not. your future ability to obtain work here, as well as your ability to benefit from the positive exposure you worked for today strictly hinges on you having a wot acct.
MolokoDesk: but I see why it's the thing to do now, since I'm going to be in here a bit.
MolokoDesk: it's just another thing to maintain.
mircea_popescu: why aren';t you in the wot anyway.
mircea_popescu: get in the wot, you can get rated, then you can just voice yourself and add whatever relevant whenever relevant.
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user MolokoDesk: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=MolokoDesk | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=MolokoDesk | Rated since: never
MolokoDesk: there's probably an includable object in php that does PGP operations that doesn't use the command line. some PGP or GPG library wrapper.
mircea_popescu: the wrapper
mircea_popescu: "i float carried on tits with wings of cotton candy on their backs, they carry me through pink skies and fluffy clouds upon which bubble sleepy dinosaurs. flying by go butts with lengthy bead strings, and a rustic potato crucified on lolips " etc
ben_vulpes: can't be arsed. here's to the sybils!
nubbins`: finally come across this Melvins poster w/ mcdonald's characters on the moon with huge 10' tall cocks growing out of the surface
nubbins`: i'm thinking wtf? search the archives
nubbins`: all these world-class poster artists saying "space dicks" "yep, space dicks"
nubbins`: reminds me of a thread on gigposters.com, the place i learned my craft -- question was "what's your fave show poster"
nubbins`: you're going to lel when you see the next layer
MolokoDesk: ok. finding the address.
MolokoDesk: I may want to talk about the deliveries and such in /msg
ben_vulpes: i'll posit you the other scenario: bisect the codebase inserting GC calls until we find one innocuously positioned that can discredit the btcd team
midnightmagic: ben_vulpes: That's total nonsense. It means the codebase is fragile, or the language itself is fragile.
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask justusranvier!~justus@unaffiliated/justusranvier. Trust relationship from user ben_vulpes to user justusranvier: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ben_vulpes&dest=justusranvier | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=justusranvier | Rated since: Mon Feb 11 19:56:55 2013
ben_vulpes: this is precisely the fud.
justusranvier: In any case, check the timestamps on the testnet blocks on the day when btcd announced they'd entered beta
RagnarDanneskjol: mircea_popescu - are you confident molo is clear on the reqs? MolokoDesk - are you clear on the reqs?
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic people like the fact that it's not in shitlanguage and it's better written than the bitcoind. this is not a comment on th\e actual code quality.
midnightmagic: ben_vulpes: A user put a forced garbage collection at the wrong spot in Conformal's btcd, and Go segfaulted for no good reason. The code is not as high-quality as everyone thinks it is.
mircea_popescu: make it happen! sign them! nude chicks with tubes on their head singing the ocarina!
midnightmagic: justusranvier: It was one or the other. They deny it was them. From the perspective of an outsider, what's the truth? Who knows? But the fork started at a block CONFORMAL built, and went for hundreds of testnet blocks. It's not b-s. Conformal's logic is false about the origin.
assbot: changetip comments on Conformal are the Real Bitcoin Core Devs
ben_vulpes: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2evkc6/conformal_are_the_real_bitcoin_core_devs/ck3ebmn
mircea_popescu: justusranvier hey there reddit boy :D
assbot: midmagic comments on Conformal are the Real Bitcoin Core Devs
ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: still waiting on an explanation of http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2evkc6/conformal_are_the_real_bitcoin_core_devs/ck3l0cg
justusranvier: I just spent the last three days supporting a code sprint with four Monetas coders and Dave Collins while they work on btcwallet. Midnightmagic's story about btcd forking testnet is complete BS
mircea_popescu: this is true, you're one of the very few people who were around during pirate even, didn't go all nuts about it.
ben_vulpes: and yet with the vim
mircea_popescu: what, you really thought we seriously let you people do the coding ?
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: That's another issue.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic plenty of people have custom clients that don't get crushed by the hearn introduced nsa bug.
ben_vulpes: lol what the ever locing fuck
midnightmagic: The rating had nothing to do with "civility."
ben_vulpes: access to the conformal code
midnightmagic: ben_vulpes: It means the constant claim of credit for work bitcoin core does, the regular snipes and badmouthing of dev activity, the adoption, nearly wholesale, of bitcoin features and ideas without any attribution, and the denial that either someone with access to the conformal code created a fork after rejecting a conformal-mined block, or someone who has a custom bitcoind that doesn't crash on a huge long testnet fork even
mircea_popescu: so you don't trust the guy.
MolokoDesk: I was considering that the other night, having a web of trust data structure as a graph, then different algorithms to assess inheritance or diffusion of trust, various wieghtings of different endorsements, graph topology analysis to detect mutual endorsement cartels, that sort of thing
mircea_popescu: which are the better ?
mircea_popescu: and your skull over there too, with this brain matter in a wet soup, also got its pluses and minuses.
ben_vulpes: it's got these pluses
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes think of it the only right way to thinl of it : any restriction on the process for others is tantamount to a restriction on the domain of the trng.
MolokoDesk: the bot also maintains a link log page, searchable.
ben_vulpes: they are for trustworthiness and trustworthiness only.
MolokoDesk: kick the bot is my suggestion.
mircea_popescu: it's cool and all, but it has to pm to the commanding nick
MolokoDesk: yeah, i'm scraping wolfram alpha, but if you pay them there's an API that is somewhat more flexible.
assbot: midmagic comments on Conformal are the Real Bitcoin Core Devs
ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2evkc6/conformal_are_the_real_bitcoin_core_devs/ck3l0cg << what the hell does that even mean
MolokoDesk: I notice that cryptsy has so many altcoins now that trying to load the entire json spew for them all crashes the quote-reading module.
ben_vulpes: wow that's quite the paste
Tao_Jones: id=11613 keyid=35D2E1A0457E6498 fingerprint=B4AF6458D7D8A2846F91807935D2E1A0457E6498 bitcoinaddress=14ixghmHMcB4szGL3ue5WJ1qnjnWnQXiP6 registered_at=2014-Jun-05 08:07:21 UTC nick=RagnarDanneskjol last_authed_at=2014-Aug-30 01:22:04 UTC is_authed=1
RagnarDanneskjol: can we kick the bot after - it can get a bit floody at times
MolokoDesk: or you can drop into one of the channels it's already in.
RagnarDanneskjol: he has a very cool bot that I talk to all the time
MolokoDesk: invite Tao_Jones into this channel if you want to see the bot.
gribble: Pipe Band: Music: Alma College: <http://www.alma.edu/academics/music/pipe-band.php>; Calendar - RSPBA - The Heart of the Pipe Band World: <http://www.rspba.org/html/calendar.php>; Pipe Band Magazine - RSPBA - The Heart of the Pipe Band World: <http://www.rspba.org/html/magazine.php>
mircea_popescu: ;;google php does pipes ? the band
mircea_popescu: but it sounds like just the sort of thing to become a nightmare.
RagnarDanneskjol: ooh I'm there
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol i got #trilema like that, it consists of me and some other cool kids logging into gribble.
RagnarDanneskjol: well its not MY channel, i just do all the talkin
MolokoDesk: install notes with the php code.
ben_vulpes: anyways, midnightmagic there is no playing nice with "core" dev "team".
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes for the most part, we're here to escape the teenage angst of the interwebs.
assbot: tozee comments on Conformal are the Real Bitcoin Core Devs
ben_vulpes: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2evkc6/conformal_are_the_real_bitcoin_core_devs/ck3t55d
mircea_popescu: then you'd best include notes on how to get a stock php server into a stater where it can run your code.
RagnarDanneskjol: for starters - then pyth pref
MolokoDesk: there's an option to translate it to python later, but it'll be done sooner in php.
MolokoDesk: yeah, if this is finally it there's not much more to say, I'll just do it.
mircea_popescu: you've now got 11 things to string together and that's that.
MolokoDesk: I had been intending to accumulate individual documents and bundle them periodically then announce the bundle/blog location
mircea_popescu: MolokoDesk that's not really your problem. one person could send five documents in one pastebin. three other people two each
MolokoDesk: so the burden of concatenating the document blob is done by some other agent and sent to pastebin.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic the one advantage of living in the us : afaik it's actually illegal to try and colect on euro defamation cases there.
MolokoDesk: ok. still have to do a bit of work to find the address in the block. knowing the trasnaction ID is more specific. I'm not arguing the case, this is find.
midnightmagic: ben_vulpes: Completely baseless, time-wasting lawsuit because bitcoins hit the multi-hundreds of dollars and random $greek_person found a lawfirm willing to launch defamation nonsense.
chetty: The U.S. Forest Service on Friday published a nearly 700-word article on how to safely roast marshmallows, all in preparation for Saturday, which is National Roasted Marshmallow Day.
MolokoDesk: there are multiple transactions in a block.
mircea_popescu: sadly, gay marriage wasn't a thing then.
midnightmagic: And conformal IS misbehaving. You go idle in their IRC channels.
mircea_popescu: i'd be so curious to fuck the imaginary daughter of knuth and buffett.
midnightmagic: ben_vulpes: The last time I was anything but civil to the ninjawhatever type, it turned into 2-year siege that culminated in .. like three (apparent) lawsuits because "ops blah blah exceeding authority blah". Why would I want to risk that a second time when it costs me virtually nothing to report on what I see?
asciilifeform: he was, after all, writing mathematics, not ad copy
asciilifeform: MIX << herr knuth wanted no 'holy war' re: why he picked architecture, nor was he interested in commercial endorsement of the existing hardware
mircea_popescu: kinda what the whole discussion has been about
decimation: mircea_popescu: I guess the question is about how much you trust the keyserver to serve valid keys
mircea_popescu: but the idea is, once an hour.
mircea_popescu: i'd rather have it fixed.
MolokoDesk: bundling the documents every 5 minutes or so. and storing the hash of that. I was focusing too much on indivdual documents. The bundling feature was in my unit test notes.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> ought these pubkeys be cached by the bot or grabbed from the keyserver per request ? << ?
asciilifeform: the fact that i can ask this question - is my answer
asciilifeform: but google proprietary crud gives me the willies.
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user midnightmagic to user ninjashogun: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=midnightmagic&dest=ninjashogun | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=ninjashogun | Rated since: Thu Jun 26 19:05:58 2014
midnightmagic: The charitable thing is the project he's involved with re: children-oriented music education.
ben_vulpes: you're the lone positive supporter of ninjaspamgun.
RagnarDanneskjol: i think the 'obviously bogus' part isn't really even a consideration
MolokoDesk: the unit tests grabs the keys from the public key registry every time and updates them in the keyring. that may not be what we're talking about doing now.
ben_vulpes: there is no playing nice with bitcoin-core.
MolokoDesk: so this is more a "bot, tell me what you know about this purported contract document, and save a copy, and if the contract isn't obviously bogus, notarize it to the blockchain with a hash"
assbot: midmagic comments on Conformal are the Real Bitcoin Core Devs
ben_vulpes: midnightmagic: is this you? http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2evkc6/conformal_are_the_real_bitcoin_core_devs/ck3kwf4
MolokoDesk: that's probably the most expedient way to get what you want.
MolokoDesk: ok. working backwards from the document, get the pubic key IDs of the signatories then look them up with gribble.
gribble: You are now authenticated for user ben_vulpes with key 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA
gribble: (everify <otp>) -- Verify the latest encrypt-authentication request by providing your decrypted one-time password. If verified, you'll be authenticated for the duration of the bot's or your IRC session on channel (whichever is shorter).
MolokoDesk: the only thing i haven't tested fully is spending via block.io's api (i have the encoded wallet address already), and getting PGP keys or key IDs/hashes from a signed document without knowing the public keys already.
gribble: User 'RagnarDanneskjol', with keyid 35D2E1A0457E6498, fingerprint B4AF6458D7D8A2846F91807935D2E1A0457E6498, and bitcoin address 14ixghmHMcB4szGL3ue5WJ1qnjnWnQXiP6, registered on Thu Jun 5 04:07:21 2014, last authed on Fri Aug 29 21:22:04 2014. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=RagnarDanneskjol . Currently authenticated from hostmask (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: of interest is the signature packet: algo 1, keyid 35D2E1A0457E6498 line
MolokoDesk: I've basically worked up a construction kit for such a bot. I presume the set of functions I have working, or some subset of them, can be used to implement anything we've discussed here.
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask midnightmagic!~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic. Trust relationship from user ben_vulpes to user midnightmagic: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ben_vulpes&dest=midnightmagic | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=midnightmagic | Rated since: Mon Mar 7 15:45:54 2011
asciilifeform: (yeah i should probably sign the copy i actually read)
MolokoDesk: GPG says the signatures are valid.
MolokoDesk: assuming everything suggested regarding validating blind signatures is doable: someone points the bot at a cryptosigned document. The bot sniffs the signatures. if all the signatures are valid for that document, it issues a transaction encoding an SHA Hash of the document, waits for the transaction to appear on the block chain, then informs the irc channel of the transaction ID, block number and a pointer to a logged copy
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know you need to fix the links.
asciilifeform: my guess was - missing parentheses
assbot: The Lonely Libertarian: Gratitude
decimation: re: infantilism, charity << http://hopelesslysane.blogspot.com/2014/08/gratitude.html " I watched one brave/stupid older woman approach a very large woman with six kids hanging off her cart ($420+ of free stuff), and tell her "I know gratitude is beyond you, the least you could do is be polite." The oldest of the boys, about 12ish, menaced her, got in her face and said, "Fuck you, bitch! You owe us!", while momma smirked in approval.
mircea_popescu: what one woman takes as violence another takes as courtship, a point the state is desperate to hide from the more unfortunate of youze.
MolokoDesk: there's no such monopoly in practice, of course.
decimation: MolokoDesk: I disagree, "monopoly on violence" is a refrain of modern apologists for the state
mircea_popescu: all the politics of infantilism, where one makes demands of god, are suddenly exposed to reality, because in either of these degenerate systems of governmance (really, sides of same coin) one actualy may entertain the delusion of it.
MolokoDesk: one of the many defiitions of "government" is "that faction that has a monopoly on the use of force in a geographic area"
decimation: for example, "I demand that the the group give me a "gun free" life" becomes "give us your gun or go to the gulag" for the neighbor
decimation: mircea_popescu: thinking about your definitions of socialism v. fascism, it occurs to me that one quickly leads to another
mircea_popescu: welcome to philosophically sound software design (tm). i hope to see a lot more of it in the future.
MolokoDesk: and it's provable that the contract hasn't been altered since signed and timelogged to the blockchain.
mircea_popescu: MolokoDesk the signature of someone you don't know is worthless to you.
MolokoDesk: ok. is the rationale here that if counterparties signed a document, they usually know who they are and since the contract is not enforceable by an external party, only by their cooperation, it doesn't matter who actually signed it if they all know they did.
mircea_popescu: MolokoDeck it can extract a keyid from the signature block.
MolokoDesk: ok. can GPG extract the public key from a cryptosignature without knowing which public key was used to make the cryptosignature?
mircea_popescu: just like irl, the registrar of deeds does not verify your signature, merely looks that this shitwas signed
asciilifeform: MolokoDeck: please, absolutely must, take the time to understand how pgp actually works.
ben_vulpes: in that there is a signature and a keyid.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes all it determines is that the document formally looks like one signed by that guy.
ben_vulpes: but in the case of an unknown key, pgp cannot determine if a signature is valid.
MolokoDesk: including the public keys in the document then signing it with those public keys would lock this in.
mircea_popescu: simply do this : separate the pastebin into individual signed bits, put each through gpg, take the apparent, unverified signer id, put it through grible to verify wot id, put it through gribble again to verify assbot linkage and you're done.
MolokoDesk: that's why I'm getting the public key out of the WOT registry at: http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xAF65AE980C825691
mircea_popescu: it compares the pubkey it has stored (and which you hopefully signed) to the shit in the hash of the signed document to establish it was not merely signed but actually signed by x.
ben_vulpes: in the former all it does is...
mircea_popescu: so having a "signature apparently by 8A736F0E2FB7B452, could not verify" is one thing. "good signature from user MP 8A736F0E2FB7B452" is another thing.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the keyid above.
mircea_popescu: nsa reads like a third of their "secure" comms on this basis.
ben_vulpes: so signed by "x" does not imply that the signature is valid?
mircea_popescu: no ppl i r not insane tyvm stop pming me. i am aware that through the process as described signatures never get in fact verified and one could create a colision and sign for someone else. this is not a bug, it's a fucking feature. you ARE supposed to check YOURSELF the fucking sigs if you intend to rely on the signed documents. it's the only way to implement this correctly.
MolokoDeck: I think that use of "now" requires a comma in the first sentence, since it's used as a colloquialism or interjection.
RagnarDanneskjol: he likes to keep things quiet until they're ready for primetime
ben_vulpes: i have two whole beers to get through before i knock off for the long weekend i want to read more unit tests
MolokoDeck: I just sent you a link to the unit tests.
MolokoDeck: rather than keep signing up for more block.io addresses.
MolokoDeck: at least to do what I'm already doing with it. If this is easier than that then it's as good as done.
MolokoDeck: you need the hash of the public key ... to get that it seems you need the public key. the PGP cryptosignatures on a document are kind of opaque if you don't have the public key already, apparently it uses the public key to determine whether the signatures match the unaltered document and are from the person who owns the private key matching the public key.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "Now this wasn't particularly notable at all. Now a lot of mining companies are crawling" << you are not allowed to use now as the first word in two consecutive sentences
mircea_popescu: when you feed a string to gpg you either get a "nonsense" complaint or a "signed by X" response, with a warning that "we can't know who x is "
MolokoDeck: ok. so it's presumed the signatures are valid?
mircea_popescu: no bother.
MolokoDeck: some sort of "give the bot another wallet" IRC commandline function would work for that.
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol nah i want it to always send from the same address.
MolokoDeck: searching and indexing that blog sounds like a website backend function, not part of the bot.
MolokoDeck: it also logs the documents to some kind of repostory or blog. Knowing the preferred format and web address of that ahead of time may be good, but that's like a quick mod to make it do whatever wherever.
mircea_popescu: it does not verify the signatures. it merely extracts w/e signature gpg sees in the document.
MolokoDeck: bot sits in here. People point it at a cryptocontract with multiple signatories. it verifies the signatures. if they're good it creates an unspendable bitcoin transaction with the address encoding the SHA256 hash of the contract. When that transaction clears and is on the blockchain, it notifies the IRC channel and gives the URL of a logged copy of the document, it's associated hash, and a pointer to the blockchain transac
MolokoDeck: so the wallet just has to have a few centiBTC in it at a time.
mircea_popescu: ok, so say what the thing is again, let's see if i say yes this time.
MolokoDeck: yeah, it's like 5 cents a document, about the cost of a xerox copy.
MolokoDeck: or if the bot is started with a shell command the parameters end up in the process list.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes it goes back all the fucking way to 1930.
MolokoDeck: probably none, other than that the software has to store the passphrase somewhere. like... on a server.
mircea_popescu: MolokoDeck so what's the concern ?
MolokoDeck: what is of concern is that to make a valid transaction to the bitcoin blockchain one has to manage a web wallet. The first cut is going to use block.io since they have a simple API that includes the testnet (which I'm using in such a rudimentary way it doesn't matter whether it's obsolete features exist or not. the subset of features is common to the latest bitcoind)