asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this is not just about depriving you of knobs to turn. the hearniators must clear some ground to emplace their hearnias - this requires demolishing some very well understood, traditional widget, so that it -must be replaced, dontcha know, it's obsolete-.
assbot: Julian Assange: Debian Is Owned By The NSA « IgnorantGuru's Blog
decimation: exactly the dependency issue. If you "know" what your system depends on, you can parallel-boot multiple processes simultaneously
decimation: I'm not sure it's as conspiratorial as you make out, 'people want' to have their systems boot quickly
asciilifeform: this is about microshit and usg (but i repeat myself) finally making some headway in dealing with the 'final solution' to the escapees from wintel 'problem.'
asciilifeform: all those things that confounded the novice, like the piles of hay confounded buridan's donkey - aren't 'choices' at all, after all.
BingoBoingo: Any any painful techical change causing by ignoring the idiots long enough for their shit sacks to escape into the inguinal canal.
BingoBoingo: Hearnia probably ought to join the vocabulary
asciilifeform never saw them, never will see
asciilifeform: yet another... hearnia.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: A bunch of Distros have already made the transition. The surprise is people are just now bitching about this.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: yes, they want to replace init.d scripts with a hearn-style binary turd. surprised ?
decimation: re: sabu/fbi irc chat << fyi, if you are a 'hacker' and someone tells you that they can 'hack NATO', you are being played
lobbes: "As they watched the bonfire die down, they asked the DEA officials to estimate the value of the marijuana they had just burned. The reply: half a million dollars. The farmers had to laugh. The value of the corn that had been cut down to grow it? $32" << heh, I wonder how many farmers just keep the plants
decimation: asciilifeform: I always wondered about the rather large population of fortune tellers in Maryland. I'm glad that the state is regulating them to make them 'ok for you'.
decimation: asciilifeform: http://amzn.com/354045277X << lol at first I was like huh? then I read comments - hilarious
BingoBoingo: http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/09/the-secret-pot-growing-operations-in-americas-cornfields/375913/
ben_vulpes: tat im inbound to the victory
assbot: In Maryland, a Soviet-Style Punishment for a Novelist - The Atlantic
BingoBoingo: http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/09/in-cambridge-md-a-soviet-style-punishment-for-a-novelist/379431/
tatinportland: unless there are more Ben's in pland
BingoBoingo: Hearn getting informed on the SPV thing: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=745631.msg8535219#msg8535219
atcbot: [PityThePool Hashrate]: 513.11 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.84 TH/s
Apocalyptic: X-Rob, isn't the doge hurting too much ?
X-Rob: Hah. mircea_popescu you may remember my diatribe about all the stupid design flaws in unattainium. I consider myself vindicated. http://i.imgur.com/HfH3kpV.png
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gernika: In China there is also the concept of "face," which I guess is is sort of like a "Web of Shame."
asciilifeform: one could possibly argue re: the chinese - but people at the 'afghanistan' stage of 'civilopaedia' need a wot in just the same way that a bird needs airplane
asciilifeform: this is also applicable, in theory, to any other people who would simply hammer a wot, were they to build one, to copy exactly their existing hierarchies
asciilifeform: (as noise were it merged into theirs)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i understand, the chinese 'wot' is their... genealogical tree. and i'm not certain that they'd see out wot as other than noise even were they to get out of that stage. (and why ought they)
mircea_popescu: apparently nobody gave franklin the memo that said floating icebergs in the gulf of mexico = GLOBAL WARMING.
mircea_popescu: "The winter of 1783-1784. The Revolutionary War had just ended, and Benjamin Franklin was puzzling over the nation's bizarre weather. Congress had been delayed getting to Annapolis to vote for the Treaty of Paris because the Chesapeake Bay just wouldn't melt. The Mississippi River froze down to New Orleans, and ice was reported floating in the Gulf of Mexico."
mircea_popescu: now we know what the jewish skirts are for,
mircea_popescu: There was once a girl from St. Cyr whose reflex reactions were queer. Her escort said, "Mable, get up off the table. That money's to pay for the beer."
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> http://christwire.org/2014/08/butt-covers-for-your-cat-and-dog-can-reduce-pet-homosexuality-by-43/ <<< sheeeit! if only we had known this earlier! fucking cheaper than gay rights, get them a butt hatch.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> china is imho the one likely candidate for the feat of having own isolated wot and 'getting away with it' long term. << nah, argentina in much better position.
mircea_popescu: holy shit look at that crapolade. "problem statement. i nthe current state of social media interaction blablablabla"
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla if it has academia in the url it's respectable!
gribble: The operation succeeded.
thestringpuller: ;;later tell ThickAsThieves What are the prospects of a BTC label? I imgaine if you find a good band before they are signed...
asciilifeform: punkman: don't have the older finds handy, but i'll take a look at some point
punkman: asciilifeform: can you dig a couple more out the logs? I'll give it a go
asciilifeform: china is imho the one likely candidate for the feat of having own isolated wot and 'getting away with it' long term.
punkman: we need some chinese people in the wot
asciilifeform often finds these, but never sure if anybody gives a damn
xanthyos: 29-08-2014 02:21:27 <BingoBoingo> <mircea_popescu> what's this fresh danielpbarron drama BigBitz ? << My best impression is he is trying to WoT up a bunch of local acquaintances and... old tensions and dramas come forth, but I lack context to interpret severity... << it's a good test case for the aphorism "familiarity breeds contempt" when wot ratings are inversely proportional to how well someone is known
kakobrekla: o fuk bingo had me on the nipple.
punkman: is the csv format described somewhere?
punkman: is there an easy way to make a transaction with multiple outputs on Electrum?
mircea_popescu: god help them.
BingoBoingo: Only for "factory is going to blow up" alarms, then pop the alarm screen. otherwise only blink an icon on the main screen, the operator will see the icon and will press a push button to open alarm screen. >> http://forums.ge-ip.com/showthread.php?t=17267
mircea_popescu: There was a young girl from Peru who noticed her lovers were sparse so she walked out the door in a fig leaf - no more - and now she's in bed with a very sore arse.
RagnarDanneskjol: yes - same with everyone I had used in the past - mostly MIA
BingoBoingo: Pity the pool is a Piece of shit pool
RagnarDanneskjol: oh. i thought y'all had a p2pool sorted already. so atc pool still could use some help then
mircea_popescu: that's some heavy deniability right there.
mircea_popescu: Patient: Oh yeah, we do it all the time.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo is the mining pretty much as advertised ?
atcbot: [PityThePool Hashrate]: 684.14 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.72 TH/s
RagnarDanneskjol: the fat one so jealous, no attention from fellas
RagnarDanneskjol: there was a fat girl from berlin who had
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mircea_popescu: There was a young girl from Peru who had literally nothing to do, so she sat on the stairs and counted cunt hairs : four thousand, three hundred and two.
mircea_popescu: There was a young girl from Hong Kong whose cervical cap was a gong. She said with a yell, as a shot rang her bell, "I'll give you a ding for a dong!"
assbot: Harry Potter and the Wonderful Wood Chipper, a harry potter fanfic | FanFiction
BingoBoingo: Woodchipper fanfiction apparently exists already https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8201149/1/Harry-Potter-and-the-Wonderful-Wood-Chipper
cazalla: that makes the top post on /r/bitcoin a floater?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Hearn being all butthurt << yeah it'd prolly be good if whoever links to derpchans (-otc, -dev, reddit, tardstalk, what have you) also provides a good executive summary. i dunno who has the energy to go on fishing expeditions in the sewage.
mircea_popescu: of course that happens to also be what sunk the us, broadly speaking, but hey.
mircea_popescu: so, learn from the experience of ninjashogun and a dozen or so other nameless, meanwhile forgotten fucktards that were beheaded in this chan : you're not good enough to earn your keep as a politico. not here, not ever.
mircea_popescu: now the story here is that while both kinds of tech are actually useful and employable, neither kind of politico is. the expert politico doesn't need to be employed, of course, but that's not doing much for the vast majority of noobs, wanna-bes and untalented hacks populating that field.
mircea_popescu: basically the problem here is this : penicilnecks, that is to say people who could not support their own existence with their own means (hence the fragile neck reference - needs support) can either be techs or politicos. obviously both of these are competence-based fields, and so while reality is a continuum nevertheless we can broadly distinguish the noob tech and the noob politico from the expert tech and the exper p
mircea_popescu: it goes in the usual manner.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: ninjashogun (ninjashogun) <yctechmgr@gmail.com> << lol! << if you google that, you get one other hit : a 3 month old yc discussion. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7812540
kuzetsa: I think that's what you were trying to explain, was that I said the wrong word and it's not fanfic?
kuzetsa: ... therefore, I stand corrected or whatever.
kuzetsa: well I don't understand fiction very well either, so the idea of fanfic VS fiction writing isn't something that makes a lot of sense
mircea_popescu: kuzetsa to be a cocksucker one needs there be a cock ; to be fanfic there needs to be a canon, otherwise it's just fiction writing.
mircea_popescu: hanbot: "A family of four should be able to survive for a month on a six-roll pack, priced at 460 yen ($4.40) and with a five-year expiration date, said Satoshi Kurosaki" <<< i guess they don't do the entire tping the house of people they don't like in japan.
mircea_popescu: to be fanfic it needs a canon. what is the canon here ?
mircea_popescu: i think the largest fanfic bit i ever wrote was a complete re-write of de sade, except done properly by someone who can actually write. sadly, in romanian. other bits and pieces in the same vein i guess. some poetry, rewritten, because oa can't write.
mircea_popescu: dignork: openbazaar published alpha tests of their platform. Looks interesting on paper. Shows seller gpg private key in raw contract, on the buyer side. Facepalm^2 <<< such great things come out of "the community".
gribble: The story of Pointless and Witless pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2013/the-story-of-pointless-and-witless/>; BIPS, Payment Service Provider (PSP) for Merchants - Bitcoin Forum: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252308.100>; Smash reviews The Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug (very minor spoilers ...: (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: ;;google the story of pointless and witless
kuzetsa: I don't understand the reference about hitpoints... is there like a roleplaying game involving alternate universe cities or something? where they have hitpoints and other stats?
mircea_popescu: kinda why chicago is still crimetown while ny is a copacetic copy of leningrad : unlike the yanks, fucking illinoisians wouldn't yield on their infinite hitpoints.
mircea_popescu: the infinite hitpoints thing is becoming such a problem i honestly don't see how actual physical testing of the infinity in question will be avoidable on the mid term.
mircea_popescu: there's never going to be an end of this "derp dude trying to position himself out of topeka" is there.
assbot: Whether You Love It or Hate It, Youre Missing What Really Matters About Bitcoin | Casey Research
bounce: youse kids already know the content: http://www.caseyresearch.com/cdd/whether-you-love-or-hate-it-youre-missing-what-really-matters-about-bitcoin
BingoBoingo: Sick burn there. I imagine Obama just about has to give ninjashogun a medal tomorrow for drawing such a rating.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate ninjashogun -1 One of the hellspawn of postmodernity, trying to earn a living out of substituting form for substance. Death is too good a fate, not o mention too substantial.
mircea_popescu: There was a young girl from Hong Kong who said "It is shameful and wrong to say my vagina is the largest in China on account of your short little dong."
gribble: The operation succeeded.
dignork: openbazaar published alpha tests of their platform. Looks interesting on paper. Shows seller gpg private key in raw contract, on the buyer side. Facepalm^2
BingoBoingo: That the solution to Problems is more problems
asciilifeform: what part of that was the interesting one ?
asciilifeform: (or the decaying spammer corpse he adopted identity of.)
asciilifeform: re: iPnohe brute force incident << i suppose none of the folks involved remember the days when people lifted 'shadow' file and bruteforced to their heart's delight
gribble: The operation succeeded.
hanbot: Apocalyptic perhaps the reward amount is an indication of the volume of exploits anticipated :D
nubbins`: "this just leaked: a clothed picture of sasha grey"
BingoBoingo: The other Satoshi's work http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/09/01/japan_urges_stockpiling_of_toilet_paper.html
hanbot: asciilifeform ty for the note, looks like last time i "fixed" something i borkt instead. commenting should work fine nao!
mircea_popescu: There was a young fellow of Warwick who had reason for feeling euphoric, for he could by election have triune erection: Ionic, Corinthian, and Doric.
ben_vulpes: the confirmations from outside -assets are neat too
mircea_popescu: lol. is fake what fucktarded 90 yo births call things that humiliate them out of left field ?
ben_vulpes: i'm just a turbine in the breeze
ben_vulpes: > charities, yeah, and we all know how they allocate capital.
ben_vulpes: where even the poverty stricken have 3 inches of pixels on which to advertise...
ben_vulpes: mind you though this whole thing only makes sense in the insanitorum
ben_vulpes: plus the odd revenue stream can come out of a piece of software like that: user data, better advertising opportunities...
ben_vulpes: not the worst deployment of capital in the world. they're not chasing lotto returns or anything.
ben_vulpes: say a stadium would rather commission a mobile thinger than print oodles of shiny paper for every game
ben_vulpes: but hey on the previous topic while all the cheap, easily accessed hydrocarbons have been extracted from the app store stuff, some of us are derping around in the service of large piles of capital, sinking wells here and there.
mircea_popescu: " that the largest ever quotient of email addresses, usernames and passwords"... ahem. this is not what "quotient" means.
mircea_popescu: if they werent' so boneheaded about bitcoin (and porn, for that matter) stuff like that'd have a chance, maybe.
mircea_popescu: i guess congrats are in order to apple, they managed to burn it all in five years.
eightyeight: yeah. the main app supports it with '-c'
mircea_popescu: the remains of a mining boom, basically. lotta ghost towns and some old whores.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, judging by the sad state of the ipad games (which i've been reviewing for the past month or so) i doubt much money is spent at all.
ben_vulpes: "crapshoot", i think is the term.
gernika: mircea_popescu well the apple app store is full of people who do. Although it's not as popular is windows, the app store can be a good source of revenue as apple users tend to spend more money on apps.
punkman: to the curses app
eightyeight: to the curses bug?
mircea_popescu: gernika i just didn't realise anyone who's not apple writes for the os-x as a platform.
gernika: mircea_popescu yes. The UI dev wanted a lot of control over the UI, and didn't want to build a js ui full of ugly compromises.
eightyeight: when the curses interface for bitmessage gets its bugs worked out, i'll be pretty excited
gernika: Yes it's compatible. It runs pybitmessage in the background without the qt UI (we made our own UI). Yes there are plans for a cross platform client, but that's a ways off.
eightyeight: gernika: is bitpost compatible? also, any plans for something other than an os-x only client?
assbot: Victoria Justice Nude Photos: The Nickelodeon Star’s Reaction To The Scandal - Hollywood Life
mircea_popescu: "In 2013, Grande rose to prominence after the release of her debut studio album, Yours Truly, which debuted at number one on the U.S. Billboard 200. The albums lead single, "The Way", became a top ten hit on the Billboard Hot 100 with critics comparing her wide vocal range to Mariah Carey."
mircea_popescu: lmao @idiot. yeah, totally fake, someone really derps around making multiple fake shots of her stupid mug with her tongue out the same exact way
mircea_popescu: born 93. holy shit they could be my daughters by now ;/
mircea_popescu: hey, mike_c just the guy i wanted to see.
assbot: These so called nudes of me are FAKE people. Let me nip this in the bud right now. *pun intended*
kakobrekla: speaking of securitah, just finsihed the cuckoos egg. cool read
penguirker: New blog post: http://contravex.com/2014/09/01/all-the-kings-horses-and-all-the-kings-men-cant-stop-a-social-engineering-attack/
gribble: colinistheman was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 weeks, 5 days, 0 hours, 21 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <colinistheman> if I feel adventurous in setting up all this stuff later I'll be back. g'day!
fluffypony: ;;seen colinistheman
mircea_popescu: makes sense, the total pool would be updated once per block.
artifexd: Both bets happened at the exact same time. This is not an uncommon occurrence since bets occur at block confirmations.
mircea_popescu: well inasmuch as the bot has a delay..
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: total bet's the same
ben_vulpes: i actually want to rip the png stuff out right this instant
jurov: guess you'd have to parse the svg to check for animations.. and cross-browser stuff is responsibility of the buyer
ben_vulpes: and oh the cross browser horrors that implies
ben_vulpes: but that's going to have to wait for after the image stuff gets wired in.
ben_vulpes: account page will now show ads that advertisers have created, and allow them to run those ads on a specific venue. ad size will have to match venue size.
jurov: you want to include the logo?
mircea_popescu: the idea is for it to make an ad out of adv supplied creatives.
jurov: also, only bitbet has 468x60 , other venues have different sizes
Vexual: for the earth was formless..
mircea_popescu: im not clicking on that, i'd rather watch boxxy
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assbot: Mike Hearn on the fragility of bitcoin - YouTube
nubbins`: but, suppose it's raining, the evening, etc
Vexual: yeah well the suns off here now
nubbins`: hold your screen to the sky for 2 minutes
nubbins`: california, everybody uses the sun
Vexual: why not use the sun?
nubbins`: generally whenever you change emulsion/lights, you have to pull out the test strips and recalibrate your times
Vexual: and then youre better off with newtons 2nd
Vexual: aim for the quiff
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/o-problema-stinjenitoare-sau-despre-intoleranta-vorbita/ << check out the lolpic.
mircea_popescu: aand the peso is over 14.
mircea_popescu: it needs to be exactly the opposite : close down the shop if they fail to force the employees into slavery, if they defraud customers or if they turn away usg undesirables.
mircea_popescu: the balance needs to fucking change. currently they close down shops if they force the employees into slavery, if they defraud customers, and if they fail to turn away usg undesirables.
nubbins`: anyway, i found these: http://www.bigalspets.ca/420nm-reef-wave-t5-ho-fluorescent-lamp-24-w-24.html
mircea_popescu: i mean i can see refusing credit to the dirtbag looking guy.
Vexual: yeah i buy 19 guage needles for stuff, i dont even bother ecplaining
mircea_popescu: what's he there for, is it a money making entreprise or a social club ?
nubbins`: he says "yup.. yup.. uh huh.. no need to pay for them now.. we'll call you when they arrive.."
nubbins`: but i even explained what they were for!
nubbins`: nod. went to a local aquarium shop. i think the guy suspected i was trying to grow weed, he wouldn't order the bulbs for me
mircea_popescu: "For many years, I accepted this myth, even while marching with my union comrades in the annual Labor Day Parades in Wilmington, California."
Vexual: are they numbered?
punkman: I've also wondered why there's no 0
RagnarDanneskjol: sure, the pole dancing and whatnot
punkman: I prefer the pagan interpretation of may day anyway
RagnarDanneskjol enjoys working extra long hours today because fukcing commies http://www.popularresistance.org/the-true-story-of-labor-day-debunking-the-myth/
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user xmj to user bounce: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=xmj&dest=bounce | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bounce | Rated since: Thu Dec 26 20:47:11 2013
BingoBoingo: "I note that the experimental section of this paper not only recommends the leather coats that earlier workers in the field have used, but gives suppliers in Berlin and Cologne. And earplugs. And face shields. And helmets. And Kevlar gloves. If scientific meetings were more like fantasy cons, people would be dressing up like this to win prizes."
assbot: Your Metal Azide Worries Are Over. In the Pipeline:
BingoBoingo: That Wikipedia article drolly notes that "In its most characteristic reaction, the solid decomposes explosively", and because it's a silver salt, that decomposition can be set off by foolhardy behavior like shining a strong light on it. >> http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2014/06/16/your_metal_azide_worries_are_over.php
RagnarDanneskjol: dont know payza. I use venmo occasionally which seems to be very popular with the kids these days: https://venmo.com/
RagnarDanneskjol: re - peatio: I've ben following that one for a while. It has a ton of development activity around it... appears to be the most advanced/full featured opensource xchnge project out there
punkman: just the wallet really
Vexual: yes so all the wallet + prize
Vexual: b. If a loophole/vulnerability was reported by more than one person, we would only consider the earliest one to be eligible. <<define report
atcbot: [PityThePool Hashrate]: 613.89 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.58 TH/s
nubbins`: the best
nubbins`: ben_vulpes: nice catch, the entire bottom half of the poster was originally going to be a huge smiling monster
The20YearIRCloud: what's the assbot command to get user trust?
kakobrekla: find out who the cops are."
kakobrekla: I asked what cops were in charge of the Internet.
ben_vulpes: sleeping bag looks like a chrysalis standing in as a smiley face, the eyes for which are the flowers
nubbins`: mircea_popescu TheNewDeal kakobrekla railzand Blazedout419 artifexd thestringpuller The20YearIRCloud etc :D
nubbins`: the time for action is here!
mircea_popescu: exactly what the internet is for
The20YearIRCloud: Anyone know offhand the median div return rate of mpoe?
Apocalyptic: I suspect September would be worse though, since trading activity seems to be directly correlated with the mining pace
BingoBoingo: August could have been worse http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/31/august-atc-results/
mircea_popescu: that's the fucking intro. not whatever derpitude he comes up with.
mircea_popescu: the way that thing must read is "we, including myself personally, and the institution i work for - the imf - are a collection of contemptioble idiots with wholy unsupported delusions of cultural relevance and scientific rigour. fortunately for the world nassim taleb has been saying this for a long time ; unfortunately for the world we thought we knew better, like any clueless two bit scammer on an infamous web forum"
mircea_popescu: dignork i take the fact that Olivier Blanchard fucktard writes that whole piece without including the string "Taleb" as a personal insult.
dignork: It ends with: "The main policy lesson is a simple one: Stay away from dark corners."
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: Oh ben_vulpes nice'd up the Van-Ads preview
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lol the end of days.
penguirker: New blog post: http://thewhet.net/2014/use-your-nose/
assbot: Log In - The New York Times
mircea_popescu: relatedly : There was a young fellow named Brewer whose girl made her home in a sewer. Thus he, the poor soul, could get into her hole yet still be unable to screw her!
thestringpuller: grep -i "the first"
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller make it case insensitive i guess ?
nubbins`: there y'go, thanks mm
midnightmagic: It is not possible to waive fundamental rights in Canada. Certain other righs (such as moral rights in copyright law) also can't be legally waived or given away or signed away.