mircea_popescu: gotta get in the wot
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tokyopotato: TheNewDeal: we would love to have you
SubCreative: danielpbarron, they have live betas
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal of course not. govt can't compete with free market.
assbot: Political correctness is Victorian propriety with the variables changed.
tokyopotato: decimation: when did we reject ethereum?
xmj: ben_vulpes: are you looking for anything sysadmin payable in BTC, then?
decimation: okay, well why did you reject ethereum?
TheNewDeal: the supply couldnt keep up with demand
decimation: why didn't you cannacoin guys consider using ethereum?
TheNewDeal: the prices could not compete with street prices
TheNewDeal: acting like they couldn't source 1000g of weed after 6 months
tokyopotato: for the growers/dispensaries
TheNewDeal: and now washington just shit the bed
TheNewDeal: colorado had the right idea with MJM
tokyopotato: TheNewDeal: you should have stopped and hung out with us, you'd have smoked a lot more
TheNewDeal: I've been there, I smoked it
tokyopotato: TheNewDeal: weed is legal in WA state
assbot: Cannacoin Interview: A new cryptocurrency contender for the cannabis market - CoinJoint.info
mircea_popescu: SubCreative podcasts are a horrible medium. got the transcript somewhere ?
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal> BB, weed is legal in some states for the record << Remember, it was the bong that did in Charlie Shrem
kakobrekla: proof of smoke then, noice.
assbot: The Cannacoin Podcast - Episode 001 by The Cannacoin Podcast on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds
TheNewDeal: BB, weed is legal in some states for the record
mircea_popescu: just because they're after you doesn't mean you're not paranoid.
BingoBoingo: Wait, is the FBI this desperate for TSR leads? First they come to my door all leik, "hurd u leik Bitcoinz" and now People show up on IRC with "This is Bitcoin, but with Weed!"
decimation: any altcoin that wants to replace bitcoin as a savings vehicle is going to require overcoming bitcoin's considerable lead in investment, both in terms of expectation of future value and the build-out of proof-of-work devices
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TheNewDeal: just curious. was blazedout419 involved in any development of these weedalts?
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SubCreative: danielpbarron, your the same troll from OTC
decimation: this ain't 2011 anymore, the ship has sailed
decimation: there's no problem with altcoins. I am pissing on the idea that they will ever be worth anything
assbot: The woes of Altcoin, or why there is no such thing as “cryptocurrencies” pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: SubCreative ever seen http://trilema.com/2014/the-woes-of-altcoin-or-why-there-is-no-such-thing-as-cryptocurrencies/ ?
SubCreative: We're here to support and and be apart of the network.
SubCreative: TheNewDeal: we're not here to replace BTC
SubCreative: so scam or pump/dump is kind of out of the question by now...
assbot: Seriously though, is that not a Yes vote on top of the No pile??? /hashtag/indyref?src=hash http://t.co/07kx46cqhW
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal can take half an hour...
decimation: in theory one could operate a bitcoin<-> usd atm in a pot shop
SubCreative: Just for our merchants in the industry of cannabis.
decimation: cannabis in the us cannot be purchased with 'bank dollars'
kakobrekla: will you make the password unforgettable?
kakobrekla: why does the cannabis industry need a coin of its own?
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SubCreative: Alt crypto for the Cannabis industry.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you know the stuff's usually paid posting
TheNewDeal: looks like all the bitstamp bots have gone to sleep
kakobrekla: only the package matters!
kakobrekla goes to find the silly hat
kakobrekla: and the response re bug: Dargo, thanks for your fast reply. That speak loud. Many other exchanges are run by monkeys with funny hats! I'll sure look up for unleashing the kraken Smiley
kakobrekla: i dont use them ,just reding up.
kakobrekla: >We have a lot of security measures designed to prevent theft of Bitcoins, and recently we've had a bug with the security measures that sometimes causes withdrawals to get stuck. It's been hard to diagnose, because often it's just a handful of withdrawals that get stuck, which doesn't give us a lot of diagnostic data. We actually did an update today that we think might resolve the issue, but we won't know for sure until time passes and
decimation: asciilifeform: your algorithm is a simple version of the "cordic algorithm" which is in use by nearly all dsp pros
kakobrekla: .su mentioned on the forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130455.msg6181903#msg6181903
TheNewDeal: oh my, the hidden text is quality on that one
mike_c: depends where they get traffic from. if they are pushing seo hard maybe they will be ranking higher than you.
mircea_popescu: actually them being obscure is their main advantage, which is a large part of why i wrote about it
mike_c: of course. you can report them to google (and maybe even yandex?)
mike_c: my thoughts go down the path of: 1) start pinging their site, see when it updates. 2) correlate with my server logs and see where they are scraping from
mike_c: depends on what they said. more communication = more opportunities for slipup/information.
kakobrekla: wait, isn that the passive mode?!
kakobrekla: yeah, i have been degraded to secretary and now i take it up the ass too.
mircea_popescu: email is kako's dept, and i think he prefers the passive role.
mike_c: also, did you try emailing them yet?
mircea_popescu: and b) who the fuck translates "do"
mircea_popescu: kinda how they met.
mircea_popescu: mike_c nah, they're both brits, and both bums
mircea_popescu: okay, but a) it's such a huge red flag for either russian or english speakers,
mike_c: any of those guys russian? theymos, nefario, etc.?
kakobrekla: <mircea_popescu> what i don't get is the partial russian translation here and there < my guess is it wants to justify its legitimacy by providing translation service.
kakobrekla: btw the content on .su is like 10 days old
penguirker: New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/heres-a-mystery-the-internet-may-wish-to-help-elucidating/
assbot: SHRTURL - The web editor
ThickAsThieves: can one site change another site's cookie?
mike_c: heh, me doing the scam site? plz. btcalpha is more up to date than that thing.
mircea_popescu: like the global warming consensus.
mircea_popescu: except no bitbet scam reports exist, but for libertard heaven there's no need to actually have anything at all. you can just make a sum of all the things you don't have.
mircea_popescu: lol at that glowfrost redditard. "oh, all the bitbet scam reports".
ThickAsThieves: is probly the "can you understand an engine guy"
mircea_popescu: so if he's that dumb how did he manage to make the clone work.
ThickAsThieves: the glbse guy
mircea_popescu: so then wouldn't you have used some new addresses ?
ThickAsThieves: and then full scam
ThickAsThieves: seems like a great setup, he can copycat while getting referrals and then one day cash that in by selectively scamming
kakobrekla: its a good idea really. he gets all the money, bitbet does all the work. i wish i came up with it!
mircea_popescu: i mean... for any conceivable goal there's a better approach
mircea_popescu: why do this then ?!
ThickAsThieves: because he is one of them
ThickAsThieves: why does something have to be going on other than a guy that wants to get as many referrals as possible (insecure methods aside)
mircea_popescu: cue six weeks campaign about how "bitbet is a scam" and the burial of the actual scams, from high to low.
mircea_popescu: once the divergence between bitbet and the rest was painfully obvious, bfl put 500+ btc on bitbet, then failed to deliver. bitbet didn't cancel their bet.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform bfl scammer, had a deal with betsofbitco.in and other similar junklets to make a fake bfl will deliver bet, then call it "unresolvable" and cancel if they don't.
assbot: Here’s a mystery the Internet may wish to help elucidating. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/heres-a-mystery-the-internet-may-wish-to-help-elucidating/ << looking for comments
kakobrekla: but yeah, you could do it on the fly
RagnarDanneskjol: mircea_popescu - the deed bot is complete /demo ready, works like a charm. i think moloko wants to clean up a few things, I'll try to get him to drop in tonight to discuss - might be late
kakobrekla: its requesting the address from bitbet server with a referral.
TheNewDeal: does anyone know the website that allows one to purchase from amazon with bitcoin by proxy?
mike_c: yeah, the above mentioned was me.
kakobrekla: but theres some funky stuff going on with aff. are you getting anything out?
mike_c: so the 1000 was ref free. good for shareholders :)
kakobrekla: the highest was 0.02897384 it seems
mike_c: kakobrekla, anyone hit the affiliate lottery today?
asciilifeform: ^ was a mega-derp in the russian derposphere;
mircea_popescu: i can totally see making stoya the flag of england.
penguirker: New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/further-argentine-weird/
assbot: If Scotland leaves, what happens to UK’s flag? - Ideas - The Boston Globe
mircea_popescu: i guess the vehicle is spying on him
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ""We have confirmation from the interior of the vehicle that this is indeed the guy in the standoff," Slade Sohmer"
mircea_popescu: "Could anyone really believe the earth was going to swallow up the incredible productive assets and unlimited human ingenuity existing in America?"
mircea_popescu: i wonder how long before they start paying people to do this
mircea_popescu: took me days to come up with them
mircea_popescu: people solved them in ~1 hour.
mircea_popescu: for about a year running, 100 or so of these
ThickAsThieves: motherland canaries
kakobrekla: the flags looks like waterfall to me.
ThickAsThieves: teamfairlay = we are awesomer because you can bet however you want, with 100s of satoshis on the line!
asciilifeform: in the style of mircea_popescu's 'cryptogram' puzzlers:
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla will end up with them killing each other over who's the real true inheritor of bitbet
TheNewDeal: " placed a small bet on No early on, due to the weight. I believe the bet will resolve as Yes, but the payout on No was great at the time.
TheNewDeal: and then betmoose follows
kakobrekla: first fairlay, then moose responds...
assbot: TeamFairlay comments on Holy Smokes! Someone plunked down 1000 bitcoin on No today for the Berkshire vs Bitcoin bet on bitbet.us
chetty: <mircea_popescu> likely because mah people been trying to keep me from armflailing fits// that will be the day
assbot: apoefjmqdsfls comments on Holy Smokes! Someone plunked down 1000 bitcoin on No today for the Berkshire vs Bitcoin bet on bitbet.us
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: prime soviet rib << the whole 'canary' thing is just the last remnants of 'rule of law' going down the drain, gurgling - like the fabled 'last shit made with home food' of a prisoner
mircea_popescu: "While Apple won't confirm it, the company has removed its warrant canary from its latest transparency report, issued this week. While this could mean that the company has received a new secret government order to provide user data, there is still another more likely possibility: it's not publishing warrant canaries at all."
mircea_popescu: i didn't know there was a notice
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You know the notice that says you haven't been issued a warrant, that disappears when you have. Apple's diappeared.
bounce: the canary got NSLed
BingoBoingo: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/09/no-apple-probably-didnt-get-new-secret-govt-orders-to-hand-over-data/ << Apple's warrant canary disappears, No Big Deal is the report
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assbot: xkcd: e to the pi Minus pi
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2014 04:57:13; asciilifeform: in oil prospecting, salvage diving, etc. there is a concept where safety measures that the crew will not follow because they 'seen ridiculous' - are useless
ben_vulpes: gotta release the press eventually.
ben_vulpes: probably the only enjoyable part of that job.
ben_vulpes: i always enjoyed imagining the creative ways people might try to circumvent my anti-idiot devices.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: line operators must be protected from themselves, too, lest the company be held liable for their idiocy. "actuation button A 2.5 ft to the right of press, B 2.5 to the left, press does not fire unless both actuation buttons are pressed together"
mircea_popescu: maybe they figure starting over at weight 100k is somehow going to overrule starting over at 0 pool.
ThickAsThieves: that theyll get 2000btc+?
ThickAsThieves: "We believe strongly in the superiority of our betting system and expect the the odds for both outcomes to be significantly better on our site. " i cant even think of what that might mean
mircea_popescu: in europe it's mostly impossible to fit them x-way
asciilifeform: afaik you can still do that with the american nozzles
mircea_popescu: "This event was created to demonstrate the different betting systems. We believe strongly in the superiority of our betting system and expect the the odds for both outcomes to be significantly better on our site."
mircea_popescu: no, the mouse feeds itself.
mircea_popescu: there's a difference between being loved and being useful.
asciilifeform wonders why folks always say they'd like to be 'employable' rather than 'fed and sheltered'
mircea_popescu: also completely winds kakobrekla's gui arguments, but this time from the right direction :))
mircea_popescu: let people serve their own customers as best they can, and let them have a liquid and powerful marketplace where to unload unwanted risk.
mircea_popescu: <los_pantalones> or is this blatant theft of contract specs ? << nah, bitbet is designed/intended as a backstop for an infinity of independent repackagers/customer oriented bookies and assorted venues.
mircea_popescu: better than the usg at any rate/
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los_pantalones: or is this blatant theft of contract specs ?
los_pantalones: on the bet
los_pantalones: bet on the bet
mircea_popescu: well sure but one never know what kids be reading, get the wrong idea.
ThickAsThieves: in the literal sense at least
ThickAsThieves: til then, blowstamps!
mircea_popescu: seriously, the sort of imbecile that came up with this plan to push btc downwards on pure spin, while the diff is up bitbet is pointing the other way...
mircea_popescu: the brejnev doctrine survived both brejnev and the soviet union! give the guy obama's nobel prize i say.
mircea_popescu: "When forces that are hostile to socialism try to turn the development of some socialist country towards capitalism, it becomes not only a problem of the country concerned, but a common problem and concern of all socialist countries."
mircea_popescu: really ycombinator's celebration of the uber scammors sordid approach is the moment there.
mircea_popescu: it's not panhandling, it's being creative and changing the world revolutionizing,.
mircea_popescu: 410 is cheaper than 490, which is cheaper thjan the 500s it was which is cheaper than 700 etc
jurov: or lol, if the platform has good rng, do monte carlo
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla they got a lotta useless employees you see.
mircea_popescu: they really should be on ebay.
mircea_popescu: yeah, apple, the world's most successful dropshipper.
kakobrekla: 20? did ya forget a zero there?
The20YearIRCloud: Always funny him defending their 20%+ margin yet slamming walmart for their 5.6% and exxon's 8%
The20YearIRCloud: One of the guys that always supports crap like that whom I talk to once in a while works for apple
mircea_popescu: better reasons to be aggrieved. like the fact that there's no low cpu replacement for sine.
mircea_popescu: eh, the common man will support anything, who cares.
The20YearIRCloud: and even more aggrivating is the mindless fools that support those policies
mircea_popescu: actually washington is the king of margins. al gore makes a trillion % on his "trade carbon" mafia scam.
The20YearIRCloud: And the oil industry has pathetic margins, apple is the king of margins on $1b+ companies
The20YearIRCloud: mircea_popescu: they've talkd about that quite a bit
mircea_popescu: the country has to be run by what exactly, lefty social media experts ?
mircea_popescu: The bill would also seem to exclude industry representatives from the board, as it says members "shall have no financial interests in any of the businesses for which reasonable profits are determined by the Board."
mircea_popescu: The Gas Price Spike Act, H.R. 3784, would apply a windfall tax on the sale of oil and gas that ranges from 50 percent to 100 percent on all surplus earnings exceeding "a reasonable profit." It would set up a Reasonable Profits Board made up of three presidential nominees that will serve three-year terms. Unlike other bills setting up advisory boards, the Reasonable Profits Board would not be made up of any nominees fro
cazalla: imagine the smell
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assbot: Sinquefield Cup: One of the most amazing feats in chess history just happened, and no one noticed.
BingoBoingo: http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2014/09/sinquefield_cup_one_of_the_most_amazing_feats_in_chess_history_just_happened.html
mircea_popescu: can confirm - made an awesome bet on betsofbitco.in well over a year before the conclusion (had previously been paid out by them) - when it came time to pay up, the site stopped closing bets and then eventually just shut down. I bet .1btc when btc was ~$70 and I would of won around .5btc when btc was ~$800"
mircea_popescu: xanthyos what the fuck are you doing with a 72yo psych
mircea_popescu: "And sending 1000 BTC and waiting 5 months for the result when sites like this closing every day without notice is beyond stupid."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform one possibility yes. in fact, it's trivial to try and find a blockchain link to where the btc was before.
asciilifeform: in all fairness, equal chunks from different addies would be perfectly mundane evidence of coldwallets uncorked for the occasion.
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones you're right, they;re cute.
mircea_popescu: NEITHER SIDE IS A GOOD BET!!!
mircea_popescu: "Looking at those payouts, no one should take those bets, either for or against. The payout ratio is really, really bad if I read it correctly." << makes sense.
mircea_popescu: the strangest thing is... why make it 4 equal chunks
mike_c: holy shit, i missed the 2nd 500
los_pantalones: love these redditors
assbot: Holy Smokes! Someone plunked down 1000 bitcoin on No today for the Berkshire vs Bitcoin bet on bitbet.us : Bitcoin
asciilifeform: gut - then make haggis.
mircea_popescu: for a guy that "doesn't understand how reality works", the situation in the field speaks well of putin.
mircea_popescu: anyway, from a purely geopolitical perspective... gutting the 51st us state is more than adequate escalation for the entire ukraine mess, much like the syria humiliation was more than adequate escalation for the ossetia mess.
mircea_popescu: not like the indians are about to leave their ancestral homeland because the colonists dun like it no more.
mircea_popescu: the people being kicked off are exactly the two bit farmers that it'd have had to rely on to expand its rule into this new fronteer
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform engineering panics are however great. as far as the usg is concerned, they're cannibalistic
mircea_popescu: there's absolutely no reason to have a country larger than hong kong.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, regardless of scotland. basque country, french canada, transylvania, there were a coupla hundred states at the start of the century
kakobrekla: lol i post a link here - next block there is 5 bets incoming.
mike_c: bitbet says scotland will stay with the UK
The20YearIRCloud: Anyone know when the scotland vote isi n?
los_pantalones: the
mircea_popescu: guy's excellent dude, i'm wiping my tears over here, chicks are doubled over on the floor laughing, you ruined my fucking work
asciilifeform: 'happy is the man who has one leg, one sock doesn't tear, one boot isn't needed.'
thestringpuller: is the term "gracious donation" copyrighted?
mircea_popescu: after the bet closes
mircea_popescu: fucking lamers these people. i read that, i think here's an aluminum sidings salesman trying to make it as an insurance salesman now
mircea_popescu: "Im in financial services and one of the researchers I read suggests"