benkay: manul for atc mascot?
benkay: <BingoBoingo> fluffypony: All it takes is 1 Manul and then you have 0 doges << ftfy
benkay: !up steven-__
benkay: the comparison is not made on the basis of openness, rather by asking professionals and the experienced what their opinions are and why they are that.
benkay: hey, guys: which is less likely to leak? openssl or gpg?
benkay: this goes back to the problem of trust in the wot. openssl, pirate...ask anyone who knows things what they think of the two.
benkay: however being closed does make a thing impossible to trust.
benkay: bedrock of public crypto...known shitburger. great comparison.
benkay: contrast with transparency of...gnu privacy guard.
benkay: it sounds weird and i don't trust it.
benkay: so yubi is a signing thing? what are these yubi servers an implementer talks to?
benkay: artifexd: i don't know enough about the thing. it pretends to be a keyboard, though? sounds like a lot of unexaminable dependencies.
benkay: not holding party's problem, though.
benkay: all of a sudden i'm struck by the notion that the only good withdrawal message is one gpg-signed by the withdrawing party.
benkay: can't vet the thing's behavior, artifexd. might as well be squirting things written to those slots back home.
benkay: I WOULD LIKE A CARDANO PLZ
benkay: hue
benkay: what does yubi nominally promise?
benkay: i saw something to the effect in the logs. tbqf i don't in2 drama.
benkay: fluffypony: you missed the conversation where we mocked sfi for just listing a bunch of other people's projects on their havelock page.
benkay: are you just eval'ing those funcalls when you get 'em?
benkay: what does the message look like?
benkay: tbh it's an arch i'm interested in, Naphex
benkay: "yet"
benkay: ;;ud fingerfart
benkay: a hundred dollars retarded!
benkay: which widget?
benkay: nm then
benkay: wouldja be so kind as to clearsign that comment?
benkay: dub dear could i beg a favor
benkay: that erodes even more of IRC's vaunted flexibility, kakobrekla .
benkay: that's...
benkay: some days i'm just hopping onto an available web client and don't feel like iterating through the list of people i know in the chan manually to get upped
benkay: dun always take keys into hostile turf tho
benkay: got one kako
benkay: so that when i'm on a roaming connection i can get everyone's attention for the !up at once lol
benkay: they're hidden.
benkay: - some mechanism for new blood to signal they'd like voice
benkay: (if auth'd)
benkay: - auto up.
benkay: a few suggestions on +m:
benkay: encrypt or die
benkay: dub i pub'd your comment
benkay: !up Mats_cd03
benkay: yup right there in spam
benkay: encrypted tends to make it through uninterdicted
benkay: nobody's clawing their way north, speshully in teh us
benkay: benkay@gmail.com
benkay: what are you going on about
benkay: what is my email broken too?
benkay: comments work, just email it in
benkay: dub: what comments section, yo?
benkay: bitcoinpete u gon make me cry b
benkay: i've always used assettes
benkay: jurov: all i mean is that i want to interact with anything btc-related with encrypted messages, and ssl does not count.
benkay: only halfway joking. but srsly, I want an MPEx interface to my exchange.
benkay: Naphex: but can I do all my API calls encrypted to your pubkey?
benkay: rad
benkay: hmmmmmmm.
benkay: i imagine the u/p requirement is baked in pretty hard by your framework?
benkay: my ideal login flow is to just provide you a key
benkay: am i going to have to give you an email as well?
benkay: lurvely
benkay: Naphex: any plans for a gpg auth?
benkay: locals are asking about where to trade these days
benkay: nm
benkay: Naphex: what's your exchange again?
benkay: madness i tell ya
benkay: or if you're doing something like a phased microwave array around the planet, coating the bottom of the vehicle with a microwave rectifier
benkay: oh but mp you can do fun things with rectifying the photons and making of the hotness
benkay: mircea_popescu: it's for superheating a real ejection mass
benkay: these things stack.
benkay: bonuses in preheating the h2 by cooling incoming air
benkay: effective iSP is much greater than that of tradiitonal rockets, even exotics like RFNO which have been abandoned due to engineering concerns.
benkay: ;;google tacoma narrows video
benkay: more attainable within our lifetimes, jurov, is the rocket engine that uses ambient oxidizer to mach 5.
benkay: fluffypony, ThickAsThieves: is there an emoticon for shooting oneself in the head?
benkay: fluffypony: y'ain't seen me log out yet, eh? my logs ain't the publogs.
benkay: what's wrong with y'all today, logs are mad short.
benkay: get me outtttt
benkay: some claim it does a half-assed job.
benkay: important to note that just because a thing claims to be legal in the states is no guarantee of its legality or quality or anything really.
benkay: the brand i've been made aware of by a friend who once smoked three pots (!) all at once (!) is 'spyce'
benkay: or 'bath salts'.
benkay: asciilifeform: the synthetic thc stuff is not related to bath salts.
benkay: teh jooz? :P
benkay: o wow, phf. that's...news to me.
benkay: i was just throwing the notion of a gasenwagen conf around
benkay: come hang out with us, BingoBoingo
benkay: ;;gettrust assbot BingoBoingo
benkay: happy weekend to yourself as well
benkay: kashchenit, phf?
benkay: well, the gasenwagen conf is for those scheduled for the gasenwagen but have not yet been picked up
benkay: thestringpuller: when is gasenwagen conf?
benkay: not a typo, moiety :)
benkay: (fuckers bite, i hear)
benkay: and setting up the toolchain should be preceeded by reading the manual, but who reads manuls these days anyways
benkay: i'm saying setting up the gpg toolchain is a daylong exercise for new gpg users.
benkay: tested your restoration process?
benkay: ThickAsThieves: ^^
benkay: made revocation certs?
benkay: backed up your master key?
benkay: getting into the wot properly is a daylong exercise if you're not a regular gpg user to begin with
benkay: prestonbanks of fincen?
benkay: mnope.
benkay: goodness.
benkay: xdotcomm_ is back?
benkay: ;;later tell mircea_popescu <mircea_popescu> that then makes two for you eh ? << i've only outright killed the one.
benkay: that man reads far too closely
benkay: ;;later tell mircea_popescu of course i meant comprised thank you
benkay: i'm entirely competent with the slang, fluffypony, it's the meaning and significance that's escaping me.
benkay: what's that, fluffypony ?
benkay: nubbins`: yeah him
benkay: looked...really weirdly she-gendered? not looking again.
benkay cannot unsee
benkay: oh god
benkay: no
benkay: best laptop chassis on the market, though
benkay: now that's punishment!
benkay: how so too much power in the hands of the girls?
benkay: shit we only have 5 years?
benkay: mircea_popescu: working on it.
benkay: asciilifeform: working on it.
benkay: "we see that you're making your employees uncomfortable. please pay us your entire profits for the past ten years."
benkay: except then the Labor Department steps in.
benkay: don charnley has some hack for this
benkay: "i don't feel comfortable being topless at work."
benkay: hostile work environment
benkay: bringing insane risk down onto the company.
benkay: wtf is this nonsense
benkay: i go out, i meet a chick as part of my gadding about the local scene. she's an acceptably well-practiced and hardworking programmer. i like her, we fuck. i can't hire her now basically.
benkay: allowed it to be a part of life, you know?
benkay: i'd be satisfied if we allowed sex in america
benkay: hah
benkay: not the handmade leather shoe crowd
benkay: point is only to outcompete the fiverr crowd
benkay: "here are your five options! send btc to 1MACHINETHINKER and pick one package for downloading!"
benkay: machine thinks for another hour
benkay: "here are 40 'ideas'! pick 10"
benkay: machine thinks for an hour
benkay: "here are 20 seeds! pick five."
benkay: not a terribly bad idea
benkay: lol machine evolved designs
benkay: distributed systems as a term of art in the industry (as i'd expect you to know, fluffypony) does not refer to these blockchain applications
benkay: oops
benkay: gotta trust automated system to not get haxxed
benkay: fluffypony: i've yet to figure out how to build a DAC i can't rob.
benkay: let me know the conversion rate of mp heart-degrees to btc, eh?
benkay: b) the 'security' 'peers' on the alternative exchange.
benkay: a) provenance of exchange.
benkay: the taint coming from 2 sources:
benkay: fluffypony: if i can't list a thing on mpex, i haven't made a good enough thing. there isn't another exchange out there that i'd sully my thing by listing on.
benkay: i thought facebook/myspace were "VC Gems"
benkay: is it?
benkay: mircea_popescu: the purpose of a scam exchange is no accountability and access to pennies from paupers
benkay: kakobrekla: hipster!
benkay: "major" "ceo" are orders of magnitude beyond the scope of btc scams.
benkay: mircea_popescu: those problems won't stop people from using it to sell seekyoorities
benkay: global bubble?
benkay: do not want
benkay: ugh
benkay: i guess i'm assuming someone does a 'distributed' 'exchange' adequately at some point in the future.
benkay: but they can't even fall into obscurity - noobs are still going to show up and want some return.
benkay: if exponential decay counts as endgame.
benkay: i guess the real question is 'is there an endgame for distributed exchanges'?
benkay: it's not a classic GLBSE in the sense that someone's going to shut it down. theoretically anyone can walk the 'exchange' at any time and discover the assets available for trade.
benkay: what's the endgame for counterparty look like?
benkay: dag.
benkay: ;;ticker
benkay: late for dinner it is, then.
benkay: hey hanbot is 'hanbot' an acceptable way to refer to you now that you're not stalking the forums as 'MPOE-PR'?
benkay: unless it's some crazy e-diff? and they've hacked it to say 'don't spin up wheel'?
benkay: they'd still be spinning though, right? diff only has an effect when turning.
benkay: naphex why are both front and rear wheels stationary?
benkay: plus also lets ignore that the base measure is +/- 20% iirc, cuz what's research anyways when you're chasing provocative headlines.
benkay: any reasonably high-traffic chipotle publishes numbers for individual items, eg guac, sour cream, cheese, various salsas, the different meats...
benkay: someone's visiting the chipotles at the tail of the upgrade cycle
benkay: ;;later tell ThickAsThieves ah i see you wanted me to talk to MichalisBTC?
benkay: ;;later tell ThickAsThieves may i help you, sir?
benkay: (those're)
benkay: bitcoinpete: that's the footnotes to FBR?
benkay: <bitcoinpete> taleb's on a roll right now << link?
benkay: why weren't they converting coffee to program in the first place, mircea_popescu ?
benkay: http://letstalkbitcoin.com/maidsafe-wildly-successful-crypto-crowdsale-debacle/ << scammers accept mastercoin and bitcoin hoping mastercoin's too derpy for people to use, end up getting all msc go 'no no no you see we actually want your btc'
benkay: what's the middle name in a four name name? lol
benkay: mircea_popescu: i already got my cookie. but it was a different cookie.
benkay: get out of this shithole somehow or make it tolerable until the us comes crashing down about my ears.
benkay: i gotta decouple, man.
benkay: in one way or another i've been standing by and squirting grease on the thing since i was a bairn.
benkay: honestly?
benkay: shipping finely spun plastic widgets that should never have been made to the herds who should never have been granted credit in the first place
benkay: honest work
benkay: decimation: if i burn all my bridges here, i'm moving up to seattle and working in the server mines for a year to reestablish my capital base.
benkay: decimation: ugh don't talk like that
benkay: asciilifeform: thanks for those naggum links.
benkay: kinda hoping to get the tax situation dialed before btc legs up
benkay: or at least balance hard in that direction.
benkay: i think it's time to go all cash, neh?
benkay: nice to have you back, decimation :)
benkay: that's the short of it, BingoBoingo
benkay: c) make friends not enemies?
benkay: b) you've got stuff 'twixt your ears that'll spill more easily if we're on good terms than ill.
benkay: b)
benkay: a) i don't actually troll.
benkay: misfire!
benkay: BingoBoingo: a few reasons.
benkay: ;;seen blackwhite
benkay: BingoBoingo: what, you want me to perpetuate the mystery in a blog post or three? ;)
benkay: ;;rate decimation 1 a fellow, i reckon.
benkay: i haven't looked at the actual books but i'm imagining that each spend on one side is balanced by an acquisition on the other. maybe just of engineering time, but w/e.
benkay: BingoBoingo: is amazon burning the capital? the party line is that they're reinvesting it.
benkay: rifles vs drones?
benkay: BingoBoingo: moisin, do i recall?
benkay: it can't be that simple
benkay: pardon, BingoBoingo ?
benkay: oh wizards of high finance and running companies - what the fuck is up with amazon?
benkay: so uh amazon
benkay: BingoBoingo: were we to lay out diamonds we'd get insta-zapped by drones
benkay: BingoBoingo: couldn't say i'm a rebel cascadian hiding in the hills
benkay: (marginally)
benkay: 's why i'm in mgmt these days
benkay: used to it
benkay: mircea_popescu: dun think i got any credit for popping the recent sybils.
benkay: <mircea_popescu> and i'm not gonna give stan any more credit than i gave benkay either << wot ch2 omission smarted
benkay: ;;later tell decimation i did indeed and would be pleased to help you do the same although i'm sure you can figure it out
benkay: <mircea_popescu> things that wouldn't be hard at all usually take upwards of six months. << this again and again
benkay: i thought the homo scene was all about dat promiscuity.
benkay: wait really?
benkay: o ya
benkay: cage matches.
benkay: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304279904579517934206301354?mod=trending_now_3
benkay: mircea_popescu: that's exactly it.
benkay: via pm to assbot
benkay: would it be a terrible idea to allow people to request voice in chan via pm once every so many minutes?
benkay: lol 3 pings. ideally that'll get someone's attention.
benkay: hey random_cat_
benkay: !up random_cat_
benkay: ;;seen random_cat
benkay: ;;seen randomcat
benkay: har if i'm up for devoicing the sybils've won and i better skeedaddle anyways.
benkay: whatever irrelevant. the joke was actually about whiny young americans.
benkay: but anyways.
benkay: mircea_popescu: i believe i brought the mimicry post to everyone's attention.
benkay: BUT I CRAVE APPROVAL
benkay: i suppose anyone can stitch the falken links together
benkay: welcome efalken
benkay: mircea_popescu: you starve me of my due credit oh bitlord