CheckDavid: By the way. In the meantime would you like to be considered for other possibly similar positions?
BingoBoingo: Last couple weeks at the end of the semester when people need to write all of those paper they put on the backburner.
CheckDavid: Yes there csn
BingoBoingo: Oh, there can be
BingoBoingo: CheckDavid: University wants a librarian working in the reference Department specializing in Bitcoin information resources. Someone will be hiring for that by 2024.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Nah, you hire the cocksuckers as Deans
CheckDavid: BingoBoingo: just for reference. What do you understand by the term BTC librarian?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo maybe i'm way off the mark here, but if you ran a university wouldn't you hire your own cocksucker as a librarian ?
mircea_popescu: nah, "bitcoin community" is where the disco crowd moved, now that travolta's had his sex change operation.
CheckDavid: punkman: oh really? Is the btc community so big that it is already seen as a bunch of maniacs looks for a quick profit or something?
CheckDavid: You lost me there
CheckDavid: Its kind of the point.
bounce: you got anything specific in mind, other than starting your own brand new shiny recruitment agency?
CheckDavid: Any businesses looking to hire or professionals looking for a job in the bitcoin community around here?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo no. private keys. so that lazy people can at least see the input was spent
nubbins`: BingoBoingo that'd be quite the trick
mircea_popescu: so there's no way to eschew a little work here.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` your idea is broken because if the site will hash $rand it could as well print the "verification" for it.
nubbins`: my fave IDE is the deedbot website tho
punkman: because I didn't write the verifier script yet
mircea_popescu: copy/paste the code on its github in your fav ide and run it.
nubbins`: luckily, when we shook hands, we both new which btc address was the one we were using
nubbins`: and i'd be able to look at the blockchain and see you prepped a few messages
mike_c: i want to prove that in july i said X, but with your method I may have prepped a few brainwallet messages and now be showing you one of them.
mike_c: brainwallet method: you could prep 10 slightly different statements and pull out the most convenient one.
nubbins`: just like deedbot would be convenient, if i could use it to verify that the right address has been generated.
nubbins`: okay. so why don't i just plug the text of my deed into brainwallet.org, and send the money there?
hanbot: mircea_popescu, i guess the trick you're not sharing here is that you'll be adding mining to this later on, huh?
hanbot: that nubbins puts a deed there and someone else verifies the hashing (through, i understand, spending the input).
nubbins`: what, in your mind, is the utility of deedbot?
nubbins`: if i'm doing the work of verifying, i might as well just publish my own fucking deed, no?
hanbot: oh you mean you don't want to actually do the work of verifying and would rather rely on the website's claim?
nubbins`: because there's no easy way for me to verify that the priv/pub keys were, in fact, generated from the text of the deed
nubbins`: a nice companion tool on the deeds website would be a small form w/ textbox and button where one can generate pub/priv keys by the same method
nubbins`: yeah, that's the only piece i'm missing
mircea_popescu: might need some more work there.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` well this point was still being worked upon. the spec calls for the hash to be used as the privkey for the destination of the tx.
nubbins`: or, put another way, how do i know transaction X represents arbitrary deed Y?
mircea_popescu: "During this marriage he had an extended affair with his wife's younger sister Lady Alexandra Metcalfe, and with their stepmother, Grace Curzon, Marchioness Curzon of Kedleston, the U.S.-born second wife and widow of Lord Curzon of Kedleston."
mircea_popescu: i hope you appreciate the meta-win involved.
mircea_popescu: DoctorBTC: Can anyone point me to somewhere that has examples of decentralized systems winning over centralized systems? I'm having trouble explaining something to someone... << have them ask here.
mircea_popescu: jurov: then next transaction won't require pin << lmao such security.
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol: someones will fund the seed address in advance << im putting a cent in there.
Dimsler: the meaning was already expressed
gribble: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantics | Semantics (from Ancient Greek: σημαντικός sēmantikós, "significant") is the study of meaning. It focuses on the relation between signifiers, like words, phrases, ...
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thickasthieves: whether something is chaos or not is not tied to its effects
Dimsler: man post me the line where i say in any negative connotation that chaos is bad
thickasthieves: youre out there man
Dimsler: which is the undeniable foundation of life
thickasthieves: and other than to use the abstract concept of man's iatrogenic effect as a juxtaposition, that's just false
thickasthieves: youre the one that said manmade is chaos
DoctorBTC: I'm trying to get better at expressing some of these ideas and was hoping I could find some resource that could help me along.
Dimsler: would be the best example
jurov: i actually think sweet spot is somewhere in the middle between decentralization and centralization
jaycutler6969: DoctorBTC not sure this works for you, megaupload was some % point(s) of the total internet traffic at its peak
DoctorBTC: jaycutler6969: you mean the coinbase guy? no
asciilifeform: 'For the love of God, Montrezor!'
jurov: then next transaction won't require pin
RagnarDanneskjol: oh -i miscounted a decimal spot - guess ther's enough for 20 deeds left
thickasthieves: seems like they just want you to order printed versions
thickasthieves: what's the deal with usg only making current-year tax form PDFs available as "drafts"
RagnarDanneskjol: i do not control the wallet
RagnarDanneskjol: jurov, do you mind throwing a few bitcents in there.. it only has enough for a couple of deeds left
RagnarDanneskjol: as for immediate publishing - I am all in favor of immediacy. believe the idea was bundling multiple deeds over an hour into a single tx was more efficient, etc
RagnarDanneskjol: the cost of deed is a fe cents, so believe the idea was to have someone throw a bitcoin in there and have enough to cover all deeds for a year
jurov: will fund itself then
xanthyos: about to get my first medical checkup since 1999. wonder what they'll find
RagnarDanneskjol: someones will fund the seed address in advance
jurov: that's all? there is no micropayment needed or such?
jurov: RagnarDanneskjol okay, is there something usable in logs?
RagnarDanneskjol: he redid much of it since the last commits
mircea_popescu: and yes, that's where the fmpiff stuff should go.
pete_dushenski: "If you can imagine it, you can create it with Headway Themes Framework (http://semperfiwebdesign.com/headway/) . The intuitive drag and drop visual editor makes it easy for a newbie or a hobbyist to custom build a great design but also doesn't get in the way of a more experienced designer or developer!"
jurov: i'd like to put f.mpif stuff there
jurov: Is the deedbot documented on wiki or somewhere?
jurov: pete_dushenski they were topic of discourse in 20th, too
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: if i were black in the us i would be fucking worried for my children. being ~10% of the population and >50% of the public discourse is how the hasidim suddenly disappeared from history. << 19th century?
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mircea_popescu: how is a pair going to be able to blackmailk anyone ? there's no such thing as "group rape" as in, you've raped a group of two people.
dignork: mircea_popescu> dignork nah, you make n of k sets signed in pairs <<< not good enough, each pair will be able to blackmail others, non-existent problem in one-to one case.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu well you're sorta the king rabbi ;)
pete_dushenski: khans spread ideas, tech between the two
mircea_popescu: the chinese are about as european as teh jooz.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: lol they're not?? i thought that's why the chinese were good at shit.
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves> i'm just not dreaming hard enough << maybe you're not dreaming out the right hole ?
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski just like the chinese are european
assbot: The World Wide Web project
nubbins`: logic stops them!
nubbins`: to the detriment of everyone
nubbins`: so goat pays 1000btc and now the blockchain is 25TB larger, forever
nubbins`: "oh, shit, another 25TB to sync today"
nubbins`: that benefits the miners, sure, but it's a huge detriment to everyone else running a node
thickasthieves: it's annoyng that we cant just put anything in the blockchain
mircea_popescu: there.
assbot: Logged on 23-09-2014 03:26:15; mircea_popescu: dja recall the spec ?
nubbins`: actually found the github page, reading source now
nubbins`: what happens when the next bundle is ready? :D
nubbins`: grey is the new black
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
thickasthieves: thickasthieves: call it The Biz /// cazalla i have a logo from a local mktg mag i did a few years ago, you're welcome to it http://imgur.com/Q08iW5w
nubbins`: "In 2001, El Al Airlines decided not to allow ultra-Orthodox Jews cover themselves in plastic because 'flight safety considerations do not allow for passengers to board while covered in sealed plastic bags.'"
Diablo-D3: b) no one mispronounces miele, and I live in one of the most uneducated areas of the world
Diablo-D3: a) if you pronounce porche with the sha, you're a douchebag
Diablo-D3: at least 2 of them are bullshit
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: who the fuck would ORDER artois?
nubbins`: what degenerate would pronounce the S in Artois?
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Diablo-D3: most of these brands probably dont exist
nubbins`: not as hilarious as reading the logs
mircea_popescu: maybe the context ain't as virtuous as you think her.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the notion that the mockery of obamacare on the gop's site is unrefined and unstylish is hardly sensible. if they were going for the stylish they'd be in the democratic party.
nubbins`: sure, yeah, but since when am i the barometer for sensible behaviour
Diablo-D3: [09:42:27] <nubbins`> "The North Carolina Black Engagement Team"
Diablo-D3: racist comment of the day
nubbins`: "The North Carolina Black Engagement Team"
nubbins`: more in the sense of "we are a federal-level political party and our website is full of 'lel you other guise r dummyz' articles"
mircea_popescu: who knew it'll beat the months when btc was 30 bux.
mircea_popescu: and let me open an imaginary bottle of virtual champagne for all the bitbet good news. not only is it finally out of arrears, but moreover, best month for incoming bets in history and shit.
RagnarDanneskjol: i hadnt thought through the many usecases quite yet
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla ^ when you sign it, put the signed into deedsbot and just comment the link ?
mircea_popescu: they can't learn. they gotta try again. until mashed into pulp, old fizz caking on their ragged tshirt, redditards gotta try their redditardation again.
mircea_popescu: yes but doge i killed meanwhile. what'd you expect them to do, learn ?
jurov: <TheNewDeal> [20141001 04:41] cheers to jurov's local ta's predicting the mild upswing << what? it was tat, not my area man
Azelphur: indeed, that's one of the reasons I haven't done it yet
mircea_popescu: !up devthedev
Azelphur: !up devthedev
TomServo: !up devthedev
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol: i've heard that too. I'm more concerned with the poo. am a bit of a germ phobe.. rarely handle money unless i have to << http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X29lF43mUlo
mircea_popescu: assbot: Self-Destructing SSDs Will Nuke Themselves If You Text Them a Code Word <<< you mean if you ask your enemy to let you do it ? lawl ok, great thinking there shelops!
mircea_popescu: fucking midwestern braindead chemists trying to run the world. "dem darn kids like that darn interwebs so much how about i make myself an interweb shaped corn. that'll sell!"
mircea_popescu: bounce:tablets aren't that mobile. but it certainly goes big on stupidity. it's trying to reinvent the web as some sort of "interactive broadcast", ie mainly one-way "interaction". the warm fuzzy feeling of teh intarwebz without them actually listening to you. not that you'd have anything to say, or that they'd listen in any case, but, you know. << EXACTLY fucking that omfg. exactly.
mircea_popescu: if i were black in the us i would be fucking worried for my children. being ~10% of the population and >50% of the public discourse is how the hasidim suddenly disappeared from history.
mircea_popescu: punkman: bounce, yeah "mobile first" <<< basically they're hiring imbecile 20somethings, that have grown up in the nazi party. they have one pow and one idea, and that's that.
mircea_popescu: fucking "coders" today, you know, writing shit so other people have to write unshit so the world can keep functioning.
mircea_popescu: cazalla:hanbot, amusingly, once you navigate the new menus to change the dns, you get access to the old interface although it's heavily wrapped with the new one << takes a bunch of scripting to transaform new pos back into old thing but it can be done.
mircea_popescu: it's never making it. reddit is about in the position of paypal : time to sell it.
chetty: In several years, I think reddit could have close to a billion users.//what in the world is good about that?
RagnarDanneskjol: I need to have a convo with you - re target bitcoin address as of the hash of the documents, not wasting coins, etc
RagnarDanneskjol: i've heard that too. I'm more concerned with the poo. am a bit of a germ phobe.. rarely handle money unless i have to
RagnarDanneskjol: yea - dont know why they called it nick
chetty: <RagnarDanneskjol> http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2216435-fcc-considering-punishment-for-broadcasters-who-use-redskins-nickname///nickname? isnt that the official team name?
bounce: plenty web-based proxies Out There. lots stuffed with ads, though
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punkman: yeah exactly what the doctor ordered, more phone in my disks
Duffer1: i just couldn't get into it, the story was not bad, but the main actor i just couldn't relate or believe in
BingoBoingo: punkman: Unless in mega troll behavior the tv show jumps the books which I endorse wholly
Duffer1: no doubt, easily the best television actor
BingoBoingo: Duffer1: The thing I like about Gotham is it is almost a noir, which is like how here the best to hope for is almost a steak.
bounce: tablets aren't that mobile. but it certainly goes big on stupidity. it's trying to reinvent the web as some sort of "interactive broadcast", ie mainly one-way "interaction". the warm fuzzy feeling of teh intarwebz without them actually listening to you. not that you'd have anything to say, or that they'd listen in any case, but, you know.
Duffer1: BingoBoingo, the creator of the wire is currently writing a new HBO series called Show Me a Hero
bounce: call it a kick in the teeth over and above requiring "browser features" that don't actually add anything to the content. dunno if that's "3.0" or "4.0" or whatever.
bounce: namecheap looks like bog standard tabletisation to me. that's not "2.0", where everything is ajaxified for no reason. this is that plus big large buttons for fat fingers and super-duper js-reinvented scrollage that may be nice for tablets but seriously doesn't for (non-fullscreen) browsers on the desktop
Duffer1: fringe wasn't bad either (fox no less)
BingoBoingo: Well, cable is a still more finicky beast. HBO has yet to beat the wire. AMC has yet to touch Breaking Bad.
Duffer1: i would have loved to see the batman flashpoint alternative history as a series
BingoBoingo: Fox is the worst sort of quality filter imaginable
BingoBoingo: As far after two episodes the thing isn't non-sensical
BingoBoingo: At some point, after enough splits, a piece of fiction looses the ability to have a single canon... And would you rather prefer Adam West...
Duffer1: well i'm worried they'll do that, and it will suck, if it's good i wouldn't mind so much :P
cazalla: hanbot, amusingly, once you navigate the new menus to change the dns, you get access to the old interface although it's heavily wrapped with the new one
assbot: Namecheap goes off the deep end. Anyone know a decent domain registrar ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
hanbot: <cazalla> gee namecheap really did a web 2.0 type change << chronicled: http://trilema.com/2014/namecheap-goes-off-the-deep-end-anyone-know-a-decent-domain-registrar/
cazalla: a machine? suck it straight from the titty
mircea_popescu: <cazalla> i think i would pasteurise the milk if i ever attempted milking them though <<< as there's not that much human history of drinking rabbit milk, likely it's safe.
BingoBoingo: So... Disclaimer... I was the horrible dirty influence on Cazalla
BingoBoingo: ... and tried to forget the rape of my fist
BingoBoingo: In its last year among the living feeding it without getting a fist full of bunny jizz was a near impossible task.
BingoBoingo: My youngest brother at one point had a buck rabbit
asciilifeform: amongst the best << i always suspected!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The bunnies?
asciilifeform: cazalla: ever milk them?
BingoBoingo: Qntra seems like the winner
BingoBoingo: Zappy Deer could be the first decent iPhone game.
cazalla: BingoBoingo, yeah he or she is a keeper, i think the buck is the half breed so hopefully female so i can breed it back
TheNewDeal: cheers to jurov's local ta's predicting the mild upswing - must have been reading the correct animal entrails
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: Oh, The Oakland KC wildcard game is in extra innings
assbot: Today is September 30, 2014, and there is still not much BIP32 support. Muh /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash 2.0.
BingoBoingo: I really, truly should have put the alcohol hobby on hold through grad school, but... The lack of time machines is a necessary bitch.
decimation: I mined with AMD/ATI gpu back in the day, I grew to hate AMD's driver releases that would ruin everything
BingoBoingo remembers fuckers Spz. AMD APU's would be the mining be all and end all and they don't even register seriously for the weird alt hash functions
BingoBoingo: But I don't actively dislike the CPU/GPU combo
BingoBoingo: I hate the fucking wireless card.
BingoBoingo: I actually don't actively dislike the E-350 in my X120e
decimation: I'm pretty partial to the haswell chip in my mbp
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform> amd - similar story << Fucked themselves for years by compiling their compilers with Intels
asciilifeform: it is a statement of fact. in that, encountering an animal turd in the forest, you know only approximately what is its composition.
asciilifeform: when people say x86 is a turd - this is more than an aesthetic opinion
decimation: this is why intel can make money both ways - selling chips and selling compilers/libraries that actually use them
asciilifeform: so there is a mostly unwritten 'talmud' of differences between intel's manuals and the reality.
decimation: someone gave them a 'model' maybe
asciilifeform: decimation: you don't get it. likely the folks who wrote the presentation, gave results of supposed tests, etc. never even saw the chip.
asciilifeform: they're interns
asciilifeform: phun phact. traditionally, the folks who write cpu manuals (how many people here have seen them alive? dead tree manuals) don't have access to original design specs.
decimation: the blog poster is a googleer
decimation: yeah, I know. everyone wants to implement on matlab, and they do not usually think about issues like numerical precision
BingoBoingo: decimation: This is Intel, once the US legalizes weed at the Federal level their foundries are being converted to farms.
asciilifeform: decimation: not instructions. the poster.
decimation: asciilifeform: surely you aren't suggesting that intel allowed some swarthy intern design their cisc instructions with some dumbass matlab script?
BingoBoingo: devthedev: Not many are, but after this thing gets feet he might be a solid audition.
asciilifeform: and these use...
asciilifeform: gave the wrong answer << dollars to doughnuts, whichever answer comes out of 'matlab.'
BingoBoingo: devthedev: What about the really obnoxious one, Whiskers? WHo I'm pretty sure is in his 40's/
decimation: plus intel keeps coming up with 'new' sse/cisc instructions that are """correct""": http://randomascii.wordpress.com/2014/01/27/theres-only-four-billion-floatsso-test-them-all/ << "A few months ago I saw a blog post touting fancy new SSE3 functions for implementing vector floor, ceil, and round functions. There was the inevitable proud proclaiming of impressive performance and correctness. However the ceil function gave the wrong
BingoBoingo: So I guess he fails the consistency criteria.
BingoBoingo: Sooner than last year devthedev
BingoBoingo: devthedev: Does peapodamus still go online?
BingoBoingo: cazalla: I am skimming the #b-a periphery though for the hungry and not malinformed. So far I've found 1 candidate. I might find another.
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Consistent, but alone insufficient. Pretty much the curse of anyone who tries this thing solo and without structure.
decimation: !up devthedev
cazalla: <+devthedev> What would be needed to make it a reality? <<< like anything, consistency
devthedev: The comments are classic.