assbot: Logged on 08-08-2014 01:27:25; *: asciilifeform recently bought a 'proper' lathe - no coordinates, just cranks...
decimation: asciilifeform: did you make that on your manual lathe http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-08-2014#786567 ?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> TheNewDeal: harder than Al, not as tricky to machine as stainless steel << To be fair machining Aluminium is plenty tricky on its own
decimation: neat-o ascii, congrats on the manufacture
BingoBoingo: Real lead pencils may be the shit, but...
BingoBoingo: And then you'll need 40 locking apparati minimum
Vexual: what about that thing means it's not available off the shelf?
asciilifeform: (1) is not an option given the modest budget.
asciilifeform: (provided that it cannot be had off the shelf)
asciilifeform: there are two basic things one can do when need part of a specific shape and size, and no other.
asciilifeform: TheNewDeal: harder than Al, not as tricky to machine as stainless steel
Vexual: lathed by hand eh?
Vexual: is it straight thru inside? the outside is a piece of art
asciilifeform: TheNewDeal: i need exactly one.
TheNewDeal: are they expensive to procure and you have muchos tiempos on your manos?
asciilifeform: TheNewDeal: no, god threw it down to earth just now.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: The Worst Cat
TheNewDeal: whats the problem with namecoin price decreasing anyways?
Vexual: danielpbarron: can you think of a dotbit site off the top of your head?
TheNewDeal: some combination of the two
xanthyos: my problem is that they stole .026 and blocekd my IP
nubbins`: TheNewDeal this is a different type of public
xanthyos: "I think the people who are *real* bitcoin guys don't stay in public." (Michael Dean)
TheNewDeal: I swear it was someone in here explaining how they had obtained multiple royal flushes on the site
nubbins`: not for much longer they don't!
TheNewDeal: NASA is massively overfunded, but they take some sweet space photos
dub: that they were cheating
TheNewDeal: You can call the man an idiot, but he can at least graph the natural universe at a much higher rate than probably 99.99% of people that inhabit the earth
TheNewDeal: Micon has half a brain, to say the least
dub: can't listen to these tards
nubbins`: math is the bridge
nubbins`: it's okay; i'm a man of the chair
mircea_popescu: <xanthyos> THE "CHAIRMAN" OF SEALS WITH CLUBS BTC POKER SITE << lol no wai ?! iirc seals had an actual owner
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> thickasthieves: It tried to serve me nearly 1 MB of JS for maybe 15Kb of content << gotta keep the economee goin
nubbins`: at the university here, the math faculty is actually under the department of religious studies
TheNewDeal: The loud guy is not micon
dub: the drone program?
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: No he accidentally intos it
xanthyos: i'm antitheist. i KNOW there's a god and i'm resentful of his domineering father figure-ness
xanthyos: THE "CHAIRMAN" OF SEALS WITH CLUBS BTC POKER SITE
TheNewDeal: the pro commy?
thickasthieves: like i wanna walk thru their silly web slideshow shit
thickasthieves: i barely got past the first click
xanthyos: JUST BROUGHT UP THE WOT
thickasthieves: <+BingoBoingo> So, Microshit has a new web authoring tool. This is one of their official samples... Admire the suck // lol that is a horrible website
Vexual: http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/science/article4224056.ece aristotle telegony ecology letters
BingoBoingo: !up devthedev
BingoBoingo: Vexual: Well... Someone has to run the combines
Vexual: they pick cotton by hand?
BingoBoingo: (I mean in the sense North Africa and Texas are where cotton is grown nao)
BingoBoingo: And lest we not forget the dude in the right place was checked out for the day when the East Room was breeched
decimation: yeah, and in reality she wasn't responsible, the 5 derps 'guarding' outside utterly failed to respond appropriately, and the woman guarding the door was shoved aside
decimation: this is a rarity in usg, where someone says "I am responsible" and they are fired
decimation: BingoBoingo: apparently the director was 'fired'
BingoBoingo: Also yes, Pittsburg brought in the Seekrit service to protect a baseball game
assbot: Did An Old Woman Wander Into The Giants' Dugout Tonight?
BingoBoingo: http://deadspin.com/did-an-old-woman-wander-into-the-giants-dugout-tonight-1641471333 << Seekrit Service continues to suck
kakobrekla: but i thought you were the best god better than anyone!?!
assbot: Crazy RxMan: The Busy Geckos
kakobrekla: none of them reads your blog? :)
mircea_popescu: but politics and policy and pseudo-sciences are full of this "my theory allows me to accurately predict that i shall now be making an accurate prediction based on my theory"
decimation: yes, I admit that there is little relationship between being 'good at school/tests' and 'being good at life'
mircea_popescu: similarly the one engine plane is very successful at being a one engine plane.
mircea_popescu: but also begging the question.
decimation: it predicted that they would succeed in bureaucratic schoolwork, which was mostly true
mircea_popescu: like when the third engine dies we can make a prediction about the plane's future. *that's* a prediction.
decimation: some of the people I know who scored very well on standardized tests made rather poor life choices
mircea_popescu: i know plenty of people smarter than me, and plenty of people better than me, and the overlap is pretty much zero.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> if they did, i'd be making postdoc studies a requirement for my womenz. << But they'd all be older
BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Basically lines of liver cells can often produce more of certain enzyme pathways if they need them, but you are still stuck with your CYP 450 phenotype.
decimation: there is no doubt a certain component of "IQ" that is measurable on tests
mircea_popescu: if they did, i'd be making postdoc studies a requirement for my womenz.
mircea_popescu: "predict a vast range of intellectual, practical, and artistic accomplishments. " <<< they don't predict jack.
BingoBoingo: <TheNewDeal> I've heard that Etoh in small quantities can (not must) increase metabolism << This is actual epigentics in practice and one of the few examples.
BingoBoingo: <decimation> does whisky deplete the same metabolic pathways? << Not the pathways so much as conjugants. Gluconiduration and second phase is a thing.
mircea_popescu: <midnightmagic> It would be interesting to know what it was and what the doctor was thinking. << you know what it was and what he was thinking. it was his 28th hour in a straight shift and he was thinking "booop booop booop"
decimation: I heard a story the other day - a suburban mom commutes to inner-city Chicago to teach. She gets paid double what she would make in the suburbs - and at her school every kid gets an ipad for showing up for a set number of days per school year
mircea_popescu: perhaps. or there may just not be a better way to do it.
decimation: the liver cells could learn if they were given enough time to practice and good teachers.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> the liver is not very well designed (or perhaps couldn't have been better deisgned), which is why it fails so frequently. << But other than te portal vein it is Decentralized!!!
decimation: so a nurse who gave someone whisky in 1800 to recover from the flu was probably far more likely to be helping than the doctor who wanted to bleed or whatever
mircea_popescu: has these 3-4 major bottlenecks
mircea_popescu: the liver is not very well designed (or perhaps couldn't have been better deisgned), which is why it fails so frequently.
decimation: does whisky deplete the same metabolic pathways?
mircea_popescu: <midnightmagic> usually that's to prevent secondary infection, they're fully aware that antibiotics don't work on viruses << even so, antibiotics mostly work if not overprescribed in general, and in particualr they weaken liver function which is essential in viral infections
decimation: nubbins`: much of the egalitarian idiocy preached in communist/socialism 'merica depends on the idea that if people just try hard enough they can 'practice' to become anything
decimation: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/119321/harvard-ivy-league-should-judge-students-standardized-tests << "But all of these hypotheses have been empirically refuted. We have already seen that test scores, as far up the upper tail as you can go, predict a vast range of intellectual, practical, and artistic accomplishments. "
assbot: Logged on 01-10-2014 22:28:05; pentestr: mircea_popescu: dude.. GPG and PGP aren't the same fucking thing
assbot: Malcolm Gladwell’s 10,000 Hour Rule for deliberate practice is wrong: Genes for music, IQ, drawing ability, and other skills.
decimation: http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2014/09/malcolm_gladwell_s_10_000_hour_rule_for_deliberate_practice_is_wrong_genes.html << "For example, the number of hours of deliberate practice to first reach “master” status (a very high level of skill) ranged from 728 hours to 16,120 hours. This means that one player needed 22 times more deliberate practice than another player to become a master."
midnightmagic: they don't do that so much here anymore..
decimation: my understanding is that many doctors write for antibiotics to get patients out the door without fuss so they can move on
midnightmagic: It would be interesting to know what it was and what the doctor was thinking. It's possible there was a good reason, is all I'm saying. The straight "why ab for virus?!" doesn't seem like it was based on facts of the diagnosis.
midnightmagic: BingoBoingo: azithromycin attenuates the immune response in some cases.
decimation: it's probably better to man-up and ride out your nose/ear infection rather than beg for treatment
BingoBoingo: Basically the way antibacterial drugs work is the good ones are bacteriostatic (prevent reproduction: Bactrim, tetracycline) as opposed to being bacteriacidal (Outright murder bacteria: Beta-Lactams)
decimation: not to mention they are purified death-poison emitted from fugus to kill bacteria
BingoBoingo: decimation: Amphoterrible B is a thing. Pretty much the null set of fungi aren't responsive to it, but... Pretty damaging to mammal cells as well.
decimation: plus they ruin your digestive tract
decimation: they can also encourage fungal infections
BingoBoingo: <midnightmagic> we don't really know the diagnosis. there may have been indications for antibacterials; a differential may have been puzzling, and it may have been a precaution: shotgunning it << But a good number of broad spectrum antibiotics can actually hamper immune response. Methotrexate is a good example.
midnightmagic: anyway, yeah, without some good reason for it, and apparently since there are no new antibacterials being researched, over-prescribing that nonsense is bad for everyone. :(
decimation: I recommend the fujitsu scansnap for a scanner, it is awesome
BingoBoingo: decimation: Well I keep a lot of info on paper anyways. Need tinder to get the flames ready to recycle drives.
midnightmagic: we don't really know the diagnosis. there may have been indications for antibacterials; a differential may have been puzzling, and it may have been a precaution: shotgunning it
decimation: I recommend forcing yourself to use the C-p C-n C-f C-b 'joystick' instead of the arrow keys, it really pays dividends
decimation: what helped me was to edit everything in emacs for two weeks, with a reference card on the wall that described the shortcut
BingoBoingo: At this point though I may be doomed to carve out a Bitcoin Lordship in the Middle West seeing as I can't imagine Mexico or that Cartels wanting to keep the border open
decimation: BingoBoingo: I recommend the built-in emacs tutorial
midnightmagic: usually that's to prevent secondary infection, they're fully aware that antibiotics don't work on viruses
BingoBoingo: Top Comment: "They diagnosed him as having a viral infection and gave him antibiotics (which only work on bacteria). Jesus."
ben_vulpes wonders if there's an actual API behind gribble's UD integration or just screenscraping.
BingoBoingo: What the everloving fuck UD?
ben_vulpes: there's also oglafbot, that one's even more single-purpose.
assbot: ComputerCOP: the dubious Internet Safety Software given to US families | Ars Technica
BingoBoingo: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/10/computercop-the-dubious-internet-safety-software-given-to-families-nationwide/ << The Reddit police will never be as bad as actual police
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: The Red Panda
BingoBoingo: So, Microshit has a new web authoring tool. This is one of their official samples... Admire the suck >> https://sway.com/red_panda
mircea_popescu: a cool then
RagnarDanneskjol: mircea_popescu:speaking of recruiters and astronauts, did anything lulzy come out of those gentoo repackaging kids RagnarsBitch ?<< yea, they're an amusing crew..i've been lurking there a bit. lots of bizarre romanian memes and jokes that don't translate very well. i might have a contract gig lined up for their leader
RagnarDanneskjol: bounce - what's the prollem with recruiters? I always wonder about these devs who are too rich, famous/in demand to even find out how much more $ another company will pay them to be lazy
assbot: Baby's Day Out - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
BingoBoingo: Oh, the 1990's this flick had a 48 million dollar budget https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby%27s_Day_Out
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: No, they just get more Pulp Fiction type scenes
xanthyos: treasure hunt movies will lose their edge when boxes of gold turn into private keys
xanthyos: so the art appears different
mircea_popescu: shit the 90s were funny.
xanthyos: because of the tom green song
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: How do you know it doesn't have cancer then?
midnightmagic: (the tor problem)
kakobrekla: <pentestr> setup a html file on your server that i can access through http://www.bitbet.us/pentestr.html saying that i have permission to hack your server/website < cant he put that file there himself?
cazalla: CheckDavid: Aren't rabbits a plague in Australia? <<< they were but then they were not but now they're becoming a problem again due to calicivirus resistance
thickasthieves: whats the name again?
cazalla: i might have to, BingoBoingo took offense to my calling him the clarice to my hannibal
BingoBoingo: Dimsler: Not my kid, the sidepiece's kid.
cazalla: so i'm going to proceed with the news site idea, i'll run it, gather some authors etc, BingoBoingo is the jessie pinkman to my walter white in this endeavour
bounce: the.biz: squatted since 2002
BingoBoingo: Qntra is going to be the name?
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
cazalla: thickasthieves: call it The Biz /// cazalla i have a logo from a local mktg mag i did a few years ago, you're welcome to it http://imgur.com/Q08iW5w <<< thanks but going with name BingoBoingo ripped off from pete
mircea_popescu: pick the first lol.
pentestr: i mean, there are many.. i picked one
pentestr: mircea_popescu: got the pgp block. you want me to send you a message here?
pentestr: mircea_popescu: it honestly is.. most bitcoin people aren't entrepreneurs.. they dont have this knowledge
Dimsler: theres far better forms of encrypted communication
Dimsler: pentestr, nobody is going to sit there pgp emailing you
mircea_popescu: and you'll learn some stuff in the process.
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves i tell you kids today have it really rough. recall how traumatised that julia chick was when she first showed up ? it's like they grow up in a king of the flies scenario.
mats_cd03: whys the communication channel matter if you have his public key
thickasthieves: just interested in the subject and this chan likes to collect blogs
thickasthieves: i like Circle, just cuz they water down Coinbase
pentestr: mircea_popescu: email + pgp key blog.. i can't be on here forever.. or Dimsler will make another stupid comment..
thickasthieves: pentestr have you found vulns any other btc sites?
Dimsler: my mom tells me all the time
pentestr: with the PoC?
Dimsler: get to overflowing the stack by finding a nullified pointer
pentestr: mircea_popescu: dude.. GPG and PGP aren't the same fucking thing
Dimsler: pentestr, listen quit with the verifying of anything
mircea_popescu: pentestr they're all this one chick with big boobs in reality.
Dimsler: i'm here for the banter
mats_cd03: im here for the cake and tea
Dimsler: well they hover around
pentestr: thickasthieves: dont need to make web pages.. just need to edit the ones you have and put in my own wallet addresses to receive the bet amounts.
thickasthieves: if he can make web pages he can intercept coins at the very least
mats_cd03: would anyone like to wager on the likelihood this exploit is going to materialize
thickasthieves: some guys got together and made a billion member religion
thickasthieves: they prbly thought he meant brand logos
assbot: Logos - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
thickasthieves: dimsler that is simply the best example of chaos ive ever heard
assbot: depeche mode - waiting for the night (1990) - YouTube
gribble: the book of honor -- the two mikes - American Buddha: <http://www.american-buddha.com/bookhonor.7.htm>; Full text of "Leo M. Frank. The Dead Shall Rise by Steve Oney": <https://archive.org/stream/LeoM.Frank.TheDeadShallRiseBySteveOney/DeadShallRise_djvu.txt>; Where's Walden? » 2008 » June: <http://whereswalden.com/2008/06/>
mircea_popescu: ;;google waiting for the night to fall when everything is hack-abol
Dimsler: they choose logos
pentestr: just wait for the hack
Dimsler: thickasthieves, you know the best example of chaos right?
mircea_popescu: well maybe he wants to debate! isn't this the internet ?
Dimsler: worst case will happen is you'll just crash the server
thickasthieves: no one knows how to entrepreneur these days
thickasthieves: pentestr shoulda made a bitbet then contacted you
Dimsler: won't be able to do the sqli injection
pentestr: bounce: you got the age right though
gribble: The anatomy of a scam. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2013/the-anatomy-of-a-scam/>; S.MG - The Ministry of Games. - Bitcoin Forum: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=224634.0;all>
Dimsler: yeah cause everyone uses there real country / ip in here
pentestr: whats the bounty amount?
mircea_popescu: bounce maybe the guy's new here.
bounce: heaven forbid the problem gets fixed
pentestr: bounce: nah, that'll just give you the vuln to fix.. i'll just hack it, he gave me perms after all.
bounce: how about a PoC in gpg email to kako then?
Dimsler: thickasthieves, yes but they pay in litecoins
pentestr: im online for another hour or so
mircea_popescu: well unless kako shows up this'll have to wait then.
Dimsler: pentestr, hes the owner
mircea_popescu: pentestr put your nick in there or something.
pentestr: but i don't think that this would be the right place to discuss?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pentestr: im being serious at the moment
Dimsler: only if you answer the secret question correctly
pentestr: I found some critical vulnerabilities on BitBet.us, they said we can discuss with the staff on this channel?
mircea_popescu: that even sadder day when you think to yourself what the shit, 4mn lines shouldn't take that long only to notice that the digits were so numerous you actually missed one
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/10/01/atc-trading-september-2014-statement/
bounce has much, much less trouble with people that do have some unixy background. such people don't end up lying through their teeth "nicing up" word documents all day.
dub: i wouldnt get back to you either
bounce: could be the problem is that these are "social" people, and think nothing of a "white lie"... that IT people tend to see, in their mind's eye, flagged in neon red and yellow, marked "untruth!"
bounce: anyway, I stopped talking to recruiters a long time ago. just not worth the hassle.
bounce: something ITish. programming, sysadmin, netadmin, you name it. as long as it involves a unix and not windows. (Oh yes, the "not enough unix on the CV" girl, when half a dozen flavours listed. sheesh.)
bounce: dunno if the scores I contacted, tried to anyway, were all impostors. all in europe, though. all over europe.
mircea_popescu: bounce that may be a numbers game. in a workin economy there's call for maybe 1 worker in 1k ? 10k ? doing hr. in the us like 1/5 of the work force is employed doing that. prima facie your odds are 99.x% of dealing with an impostor.
mircea_popescu: course that's easier in theory than in practice. i know i'm making real efforts to not start hating gays just because these fucktards imagine they can claim it in their doomed but vapid quest for appearing speshul.
mircea_popescu: if tomorrow it becomes fashionable for them to pretend like they're car salesmen, that won't be the #1 reason car salesmen suck
mircea_popescu: bounce well yes but this speaks more to the "seo expert/web2.0 designer/bitcoin communitard/social expert" crowd of white nigerian kids floating around aimlessly
mircea_popescu: SAMSUNG GT-S7500/S7500BUMB1 Build/GINGERBREAD << motherfucker samsung and its capslock
bounce: or sending a message inquiring about a specific job to a "hi! we're new and exciting!" bunch, never getting an answer but ending up thorougly on their spamlist with their wonderful! new! exciting! candidate matching system. they kept on spamming business intelligence jobs because in the "profile" they'd cooked up for me without permission was "DEBIAN" somewhere. that's how good they were.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It goes in the evil Librarian CV
mircea_popescu: bounce why would you call them anyway.
bounce: yes, well, not quite the same as being on the phone to some guy, getting fobbed off because you called them and they didn't call you. (literally, yes)
BingoBoingo: So personal blog just got a referral from Bing for the term "dystopian bingo"
BingoBoingo: CheckDavid: Well sure. Doesn't mean they aren't delicious though. What better way to fight an endangered species than with cornbread stuffing and a pad of butter?
mircea_popescu: i guess i missed a resource pun in there huh
mircea_popescu: bounce all my experiences with hr are under the sheets.
BingoBoingo: CheckDavid: You know, my time could be pushed to the max if something discussed here goes through.
bounce: HR in general is fantastibad at handling candidates. recruiters amazingly aren't better, though it's what they do all day.
BingoBoingo: CheckDavid: At the moment I'm working on getting as extended as I can.
BingoBoingo: At some point their paper requires information that isn't readily googleavle