ben_vulpes: anyone receiving emails on the "get in touch with us" inbox
RagnarDanneskjol: so the hiring manager does recruitment - bad policy
bounce: somebody who knows about the job.
ben_vulpes: <RagnarDanneskjol> every company over 20 people has a staff recruiter who manages the interview/negotiation process << false.
bounce: IME the staffing agencies that claim to specialise in IT recruiting are possibly worse than generic agencies. claim to know their shit then don't.
RagnarDanneskjol: every company over 20 people has a staff recruiter who manages the interview/negotiation process
ben_vulpes: if you're growing a dev team and your devs aren't actively bringing in their friends, you're doing it entirely incorrectly.
RagnarDanneskjol: they are often generalized as being staffing agencies
bounce: how else? by getting pulled in by someone, or by bumping into the (technically savvy) owner of the shop, something like that. the key is to talk to someone who knows about the job, not the "specialist" who doesn't know word from writer.
ben_vulpes: the notion that a person must go through a recruiter to get a job is utter nonsense.
RagnarDanneskjol: ok. this is like having a bad experience with a front desk secretary and holding it against every secretary you ever encounter. Recruiters are just doing the work of sorting and moving candidates through the interview process. How else would you ever get another job? at some point everyone has to deal with a recruiter (or whoever acts as company recruiter/hr generalist) -otherwise st
bounce: don't forget the completely dysfunctional and often insane "matching", selecting on completely irrelevant criteria, and obvious, screaming lies by the bucketload.
ben_vulpes: RagnarDanneskjol: many devs respond to a few here and there, but the random sample is typically not enough cash, bizarre stacks, crazy mgmt or {google,yahoo,ms} again instead of anything interesting. a few interactions like this and the dev is poisoned against recruiters forever.
bounce: I'll leave you at it then
bounce: not the smartest way to get a useful answer
RagnarDanneskjol: rather loaded
bounce: bit of an unfair question there.
assbot: Logged on 02-10-2014 00:40:23; RagnarDanneskjol: bounce - what's the prollem with recruiters? I always wonder about these devs who are too rich, famous/in demand to even find out how much more $ another company will pay them to be lazy
BingoBoingo: I dunno. Do these waiting tx.nlocktime transactions just sit in the mempool for years now?
RagnarDanneskjol: i've actually seen shit like this - 15 years iOS development, etc. sometimes I call them up just to troll
RagnarDanneskjol: X years experience with web (or other non-specific) is clear indicator that experience being described is bs [and prolly lying about other things too].. resume goes straight to trashbin
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BingoBoingo: Also as coole as an Ole Miss upset over Bama would be... It's getting talked up so much Bama moneyline might be the better value
BingoBoingo: Well, I generally look for underdogs priced too generously. As an example there is no spread or odds that would make me think of Picking Kansas over West Fucking Virginia
BingoBoingo: Hitler no longer passes the alive test
RagnarDanneskjol: has to be one of the worst people alive
BingoBoingo: The Rams don't seem to have any people with experience running events working on the fan experience of being at the stadium
assbot: The Business Of Football - Forbes
RagnarDanneskjol: heh. lowest valued team in the league - http://www.forbes.com/nfl-valuations/#page:4_sort:0_direction:asc_search:
BingoBoingo: The Rams really want a new stadium, but... hard to justify that when no one watches them.
BingoBoingo: Most people I know in the area have similar feeling.
BingoBoingo: Yeah. I can't wait until they leave
RagnarDanneskjol: against the bucs - lel
RagnarDanneskjol: Oh I see they won a game
BingoBoingo: I'd still bet on Mizzou over the StL Rams though.
RagnarDanneskjol: http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/eye-on-the-tigers/countdown-to-camp-mizzou-linebackers/article_f078a225-8d72-52c1-9e22-ab6ac6ced060.html
BingoBoingo: RagnarDanneskjol: Both. The Runningbacks almost always find a way around the line if they have any speed and in the backfield the people with speed to catch up to them lack the mass to take them down efficiently
RagnarDanneskjol: i forget, were runs getting through the D line or is breakdown in the backfield.. or both
BingoBoingo: Mizzou scares in that after the way the SEC championship game ended last year they still have no defense against the ground game.
RagnarDanneskjol: "Let me say that again. The SEC West is the best division in the country and might end up the best division of all time, and Mississippi State might have the best chance of winning it."
assbot: Projecting the SEC's 2014 conference race using advanced stats - SBNation.com
BingoBoingo: RagnarDanneskjol: I'm debating it. Probably not doing the longshot parlay again.
assbot: Good Guys Finish 1st: The Hugh Freeze Story | Bleacher Report
RagnarDanneskjol: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2216102-good-guys-finish-first-the-hugh-freeze-story
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pete_dushenski_: i'm off to the dreamobile! bon soir!
mircea_popescu: well being a (military) governor, sure. but generally the patricians held land in latium, then in italia, then in galia n, and then finally in spain, thracia, whatever.
decimation: sure, being governor over there was a stepping stone to power at times
mircea_popescu: in the middle east ?
mircea_popescu: they kept trying to smash the persian empire, which they mostly managed, more or less.
mircea_popescu: or joystick as the case may be
decimation: or a 100 lb girl with the right charms
pete_dushenski_: and can therefore be subdued by a lean 140 pounder.
decimation: there's no doubt that there's a gap between 'strength on paper' and 'actual strength, if actually tested'
mircea_popescu: yeah, something like that. i think they mostly perceive it as a combined fuckhole/shithole/eatery
decimation: I imagine that most countries perceive the us as a 300 pound giant with the brains of a 12 year old boy
mircea_popescu: is this the same iraq the us just got beat out of, and had to lulzily evacuate their baghdad "embassy" ?
decimation: a 'coalition of the willing' indeed
mircea_popescu: what's the value add, cumrag ?
decimation: reading the wikipedia I'm surprised to find that argentina is basically 80-90% european
decimation: if the average us guy even knows where south america is, he perceives the cities as basically gigantic barrios with constant death
mircea_popescu: if it makes you feel any better, the media does the same here. there were i dunno, like five murders in a 20mn pop town.
decimation: and 33,561 traffic deaths (in the us)
decimation: I guess my point is that the media likes to trump up the crazy nazi kkk guy when there were 415 murders in chicago last year
mircea_popescu: well... there's a lot of merit in that. how else could his alleged "political" oppinions be explained.
mircea_popescu: im sure there's no libtard that ever killed anyone. o.O
mircea_popescu: lol these obnoxious pests.
mircea_popescu: "Mayo noted that Frazier Glenn Miller, who was a member of the Ku Klux Klan and other white supremacist groups, ran for the U.S. Senate in Missouri in 2010. He was charged this year in the shooting deaths of a 14-year-old boy and his grandfather outside an Overland Park, Kan., Jewish community center."
decimation: My language was imprecise: I meant that that he would be the object of common hatred
mircea_popescu: much like love ain't available to the same populace.
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, people tend to flatter themselves with that word a lot. an ability to hate is strictly realted to spending time in conditions not available to the average english speaking derp.
mircea_popescu: guy doesn't seem motivated by anything but the usual driver of reality show attendants.
decimation: at any rate I'm sure that these hick canidates will be promoted so that their hatred can become a shared experience for their political enemies
pete_dushenski_: mircea_popescu: and i also like that you linked "contravex" directly to the troll article rather than the homepage. i take that as a seal o' approval :)
mircea_popescu: do you suppose any marriage can be improved by confining the woman ?
mircea_popescu: decimation only if thegy wish to be.
decimation: well, I guess I buy into the idea that a nation and an genetic group are closely related
decimation: this problem largely solved itself in the past when only somebodies could afford to travel
mircea_popescu: but otherwise it can become a major pain.
mircea_popescu: i imagine at best it'd to nothing perceptible, if you choose the line well.
decimation: well, it would be cheaper for the us to simply ban pakistani immigration rather than try to be omniscient w.r.t. pakistani terrorism and so forth
pete_dushenski_: maybe they should just make an ebola to target moslems?
mircea_popescu: "We eliminate the Muslim terror threat by first eliminating all support for Israel and then by additionally deporting all Muslims out of the American nation back to the Arab world."
mircea_popescu: dude the policy ideas of homebrew candidates are fabulous.
mircea_popescu: "2. We improve the economy by attacking without mercy the concept of globalism, eliminating all foreign aid to non-White third world nations, all nations controlled by Zionist interests, and first and foremost eliminate all aid to Israel, also end all domestic aid and handouts to non-Whites, and finally disband and dissolve the Jewish-run Federal Reserve and overhaul the American stock market and the way that has worke
pete_dushenski_: in south america i've been to colombia and brazil. also visited most of central america, mexico, and a solid chunk of the caribbean islands.
pete_dushenski_: being the roman?
mircea_popescu: which means you can add all of the black africa too
mircea_popescu: i've been pretty much everywhere the empire ever went.
pete_dushenski_: and the famous pyramid-horse pic says you've been to egypt.
mircea_popescu: my forays into asia have been limited to crossing the bosphorus.
pete_dushenski_: ok, so canada is 1. have you been to other parts of japan?
mircea_popescu: i've ne ver been to canada either
pete_dushenski_: could also use the addition of hanbot?
mircea_popescu: "don't worry about not being on the pill, honey. i got a yellow contraceptor."
mircea_popescu: psycho fly guy got a pretty sweet setup there. one date only.
mircea_popescu: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/Spider_and_fly_April_2008-6.jpg <<< check out the nature porn.
decimation: apparently it's 1.75 + 2 mil - probably to fit the shelving
decimation: again in 1992 to comply with the 1988 public law 100-418, setting the standard U as 44.5mm (15.9mm + 15.9mm + 12.7mm), making each "U" officially 1.752 inches.[5] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/19-inch_rack
decimation: pediwiki: The term relay rack appeared first in the world of telephony.[2] By 1911, the term was also being used in railroad signaling.[3] There is little evidence that the dimensions of these early racks were standardized. The 19-inch rack format with rack-units of 1.75 inches and holes tapped for 12-24 screws with alternating spacings of 1.25 inches and 0.5 inch was an established standard by 1934.[4] The EIA standard was revised
asciilifeform can always tell who did a tour of duty as a sysop in this, among other, ways.
decimation: I suspect rack units acquired their height from the ability to reach into that space with a hand
decimation: the foot anyway
decimation: I thought it was related to the pace?
mircea_popescu: or for that matter the latin excloppus
asciilifeform: (look at rear wheel & the pulley scheme)
asciilifeform: the real neato is that: that bike converts.
decimation: it would demean women to treat them as objects to measure, rather than measure as objects
mircea_popescu: THAT is sustainability, the real kind.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we had these.
mircea_popescu: plus they vary a lot by measurer.
mircea_popescu: and proceeded to proclaim that perhaps the best example of society marginalising women known to anthropology is
penguirker: New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-incredulous-photographer-and-the-subjects-of-his-incredulity/
asciilifeform: student exercise; tile the plane with...
mircea_popescu: why is the boob forever cursed with ambigous multinominity ?
mircea_popescu: "her tits aren't really that much bigger, it's the light."
mircea_popescu: as in, o honey, 'sthematter ?
mircea_popescu: not much was possible throughout much of that history, but the idea still nevertheless recognisably remains.
mircea_popescu: right. for many years men gathered together, trying with their humble powers to implement as much of a bitcoin-assets as possible.
Dimsler: thats the joke
mircea_popescu: you familiar with the ever elusive snipe ?
bounce: so why does english have different names for groups of animals and then specify the animal anyway?
mircea_popescu: it's fun, if you get the right ones.
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "the people" any more than there are "women" or "blacks" or "jews" or "strippers" or "sluts" or "coeds" or so forth
decimation: you know what orwell missed was that you didn't really need "Big Brother" to convince everyone that the digits/zinc is worth anything - you just need 'the people' to have a 'stake' in the success of the graft and they will 'big brother' themselves
mircea_popescu: is this the cazalla-BingoBoingo adventure ?
mircea_popescu: when dealing with a woman... apparently, the opposite!
asciilifeform: endless supply << it's the same hero, with at least 5 names
pete_dushenski_: strp: no thanks, thickasthieves. I don't have to justify talking with anyone else I talk with. << classic wilyotp (walk in like you own the place). gotta love the endless supply of such thinking.
asciilifeform: (re: stick to the human)
asciilifeform: it is beyond us to produce a dual system of astronomy? The stars can be near or distant, according as we need them. Do you suppose our mathematicians are unequal to that? Have you forgotten doublethink?' '
asciilifeform: 'Winston made another convulsive movement. This time he did not say anything. O'Brien continued as though answering a spoken objection: 'For certain purposes, of course, that is not true. When we navigate the ocean, or when we predict an eclipse, we often find it convenient to assume that the earth goes round the sun and that the stars are millions upon millions of kilometres away. But what of it? Do you suppose
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "whoredom is the new chastity". see, this one works.
decimation: this 'trial of the pyx' is hilarious
asciilifeform: insolvency is the new solvent << hunger is the new delicacy. and then let's all make backyard steel.
pete_dushenski_: mircea_popescu: v. good point about the shaw thing. i'm logging on from a different comp and i don't quite have the flow sorted on this one.
decimation: one problem being that once the sovereign decides that insolvency is the new solvent it gives leave for everyone else to do so, especially using the king's scrip
BingoBoingo: decimation> the clerks in the bank of england thought they could use 'one weird trick' to materialize gold from thin air << To the extend Geography poses a challenge to verification they could pretend
decimation: the clerks in the bank of england thought they could use 'one weird trick' to materialize gold from thin air
asciilifeform: the pyx!
mircea_popescu: btw, since he got mentioned : newton ended up the author of the gold standard in the western world.
decimation: they exist, but there are at least 10 layers of fat bureaucrats between obama and the truth-knowers
Dimsler: but i thought obama was there leader?
bounce: ``Newton moved to London to take up the post of warden of the Royal Mint in 1696, a position that he had obtained through the patronage of Charles Montagu, 1st Earl of Halifax, then Chancellor of the Exchequer.''
mircea_popescu: i would very much like to see current day "scientist" telling obama to get the fuck lost.
decimation: ie they didn't have to worry about food & basic human needs
mircea_popescu: just add lavoisier to the list and we can call it a day eh.
asciilifeform: 'independent' here just means you're funded via something other than science-as-day-job
decimation: 'government' was quite a different thing then though
bounce: so newton, leibniz, van leeuwenhoek all held convenient government positions. not quite getting paid for science directly, but not quite independently wealthy either
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski you know if you first join as d.shawcable.net the entire cloak thing loses its point
mircea_popescu: fumes will kill you before the fire even warms you a little
mircea_popescu: problem i nthe usa isn't as much the per se combustibility, more like, all the evil shit sandwiched in there
mircea_popescu: yeah but in japan they have cause.
Dimsler: yeah like the combustable house and obsession with firemen is a north american thing
mircea_popescu: Dimsler firemen have as much history as the french.
Dimsler: there was firemen pre-concrete?
mircea_popescu: actually... i think us houses are the most combustible things ever in the history of dwellings.
Dimsler: lol the past?
asciilifeform: firemen get (and deserve) no credit for the relative incombustibility of modern dwellings compared to those of the past.
mircea_popescu: i doubt malignancies are the main problem. i think the main problem of medicine today is still metabolism
decimation: asciilifeform: the scanner would have to see down the molecules to determine malignancy in-situ
asciilifeform: then everyone with some money can scan himself when he wakes up, right after toilet, for malignant growths.
mircea_popescu: aren;t they all.
mircea_popescu: decimation you can appreciate the shittyness of it, right ? suppose you were given the task of fixing code you may not read running on a one of a kind processor you don't even have the spec for.
decimation: until someone can give an engineering-level account of the human body and all its processes, it's gonna stay that way
Duffer1: speaking of dr, that coffee was a big hit, thanks for the suggestion MP
mircea_popescu: actual doctors today are about as hacky/harmful as they were cca 1714.
mircea_popescu: generally the problem is that people ascribe the benefits of santiation to medicine. this is false.
mircea_popescu: decimation dubious theory, but anyway.
mircea_popescu: what other places is it operant ?
mircea_popescu: bounce then allow me to use this opportunity to expose before your eyes your own automatism.
bounce: pfft. too early to do the research.
decimation: as the link I put up yesterday explained, most doctors did more to hurt than heal before 1900, the 'talented amateur' was the local nurse lady who would try to keep you comfortable
bounce: plenty scientists have done so on sufferance of the local lord, no reason why they couldn't do it on sufferance of the government
mircea_popescu: with the independent professions it becomes more iffy. doctors and lawyers earned their keep doing the job for centuries without ill effect.
decimation: probably the same thing with medicine too
mircea_popescu: people who hope to make their living at science can not be considered scientists. that should be the first crtierion on the peer review process. "independently wealthy ?" if no, can not participate in science.
decimation: well, there's certainly a conflict of interest between "researching physics" and "maintaining a career in physics"
mircea_popescu: if a girl did that they'd call her a slut.
DanielKrawisz_: Yeah, academics is a leisure activity, and there's kind of a conflict when it becomes professional.
decimation: DanielKrawisz_: the general feeling here is that academia in the us is a bureaucracy that has little to do with actually advancing human knowledge/technology
Dimsler: i gotta pack my shit down there
DanielKrawisz_: Originally I was going to be a physics professor but there are a lot of things about professional physics academics that are a lot less fun than the physics, so I dropped out.
Dimsler: too much flouride in the drinking water
mircea_popescu: now i just gotta meet the age qual.
mircea_popescu: i have all the requisite qualities of senile dementia
DanielKrawisz_: I got logged off so now I have an underscore at the end of my name.
mircea_popescu: DanielKrawisz_ in the future you auth with gribble and pm assbot !up
mircea_popescu: ;;rate DanielKrawisz 1 The intersection of the set of people who spent their entire life in academia and the set of people who've not said infuriatingly stupid things about Bitcoin consists so far of one guy.
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mircea_popescu: ;;rate DanielKrawisz_ 1 The intersection of the set of people who spent their entire life in academia and the set of people who've not said infuriatingly stupid things about Bitcoin consists so far of one guy.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate DanielKrawisz_ 1 The intersection of the set of people who spent their entire life in academia and the set of people who've not said infuriatingly stupid things about Bitcoin consists so far of one guy.
decimation: she thinks that her job is to help 'disadvantaged' people but her actual job is to maintain the "no enemies to the left" chumpatron
decimation: might as well label themselves "I am a kulak, crush my shit"
decimation: 'nazi' crap is a particular chumpatron that the dumb stumble into
mircea_popescu: "He's a very bad person," said Heidi Beirich, director of the intelligence project at the Southern Poverty Law Center in Montgomery, Ala., which tracks hate groups. << actually, heidi is the bad person here.
Dimsler: you guys see the irony here right?
mircea_popescu: the most he could stand for would be perhaps a brand of goth from one particular hs. they were doing hitler that year.
decimation: he's a derp, no doubt, highlighted by the local lefties
Duffer1: and by reasonable people the world over
mircea_popescu: apparently it's being mocked by the elites abroad, too.
mircea_popescu: such smallness. i had no idea there's so much tiny at hand.
mircea_popescu: "I wanted to reach out to the community," said Marx, who is Catholic. "We had an over-run of challah for the New Year, and we gave them away." << lmao.
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mircea_popescu: Robert Ransdell is running for U.S. Senate in Kentucky with the campaign slogan 'With Jews We Lose.'
mircea_popescu: "If Kentuckians write-in Robert Ransdell as their choice for Senator in the 2014 election they will support my plan to fix America by pursuing the ..." bla bla bla. write-in candidates for kentucky elections ?! holy shit, it's almost as if... i dunno, my similes fail me. i don't have something for this nonsense.
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decimation: ah you mean the sabu route
Dimsler: i'm not sure if some of these articles contain the eloquence of someone with a masters in physics
mircea_popescu: decimation unless he's married, he doesn't actually have to ever work in the us. you know this, right ?
assbot: Down to the gwound - YouTube
Dimsler: down to the ground
Dimsler: I teach bitcoiners about the implications of Bitcoin so as to alter their behavior in a way that improves the overall health of the Bitcoin network.
Dimsler: none of these look like paid anything
mircea_popescu: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/daniel-krawisz/21/bb1/323 << you know that's like, the worst cv i ever saw on linkedin btw ?
DanielKrawisz_: Well I guess I'll have to complete the process later.