benkay: 80k is a luxury product now?
benkay: he trollin
benkay: give me a year.
benkay: y'all are in the fortunate position of having offices.
benkay: mike_c: who buys apple servers?!
benkay: y'all apple haters miss the part where they make the best laptop chassis in the world.
benkay: hola JorgePasada
benkay: !up Sahtor
benkay: how've you been?
benkay: blackwhite! welcome back
benkay: !up blackwhite
benkay: fixing upstream bugs?
benkay: yeah sorry
benkay: but client didn't care to pay for a new stack - would rather throw 4x as much at the old stack.
benkay: cost...too much. probably more than writing a cms/ecom platform ourselves woulda.
benkay: ebay staff didn't think it was even POSSIBLE. but we did it.
benkay: i worked at a shop once that charged an ungodly amount of money to migrate another large ecom hustler from magento community to magento pro
benkay: Magento's a really good example of this. you start a business selling shit online, you're all "hey magento! it's awesome and does everything i need!" then you want to hire someone to do work on your magento install and lolololololol either you hire kids who are learning php on the fly and they do god knows what to your install or you hire actual magento devs at 400+/hr
benkay: that's brutal, man.
benkay: not being able to qualify tech teams
benkay: yeah that's the really rough part of the problem
benkay: man this story is so familiar. non technical stakeholder dictates that a particular already-built thinger be used despite knowing nothing about its architecture or code quality or the ability of development teams to work against the existing codebase. thinger is either a mess or takes 6 months for an individual to come up to speed on the nuances/idiocies of, but project already has thinger built in.
benkay: sounds like you'd want to preserve your ability to deliver features fast and on budget at all costs.
benkay: pankkake: url-encode everything and throw away the method.
benkay: then there is the 'shoehorn existing software into my problemspace' thing going on as well it sounds
benkay: unless it was designed to do that from the get-go, but from the sounds of it it's kind of a mess in the first place.
benkay: it's kinda hard to move the custom designd thigner into a multitenant deploy generally, ThickAsThieves
benkay: <kakobrekla> its lispy! // gtfo
benkay: oh it's assbot and i'm late to the party again
benkay: so this is prrrrrrrty funny: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-05-2014&bots=true#666666
benkay: it's a derpy reader.
benkay: trying to figure it out :(
benkay: kakobrekla: also for some reason my rss reader started complaining about bitbet.us/rss/new/ today.
benkay: BUT DONE THE OTHER WAY IT WORKS!
benkay: on one of the many many many api's available for derping through openssl, loading the public key in first and then the private key results in garbage out
benkay: today's fun adventures in openssl!
benkay: ben bernanke?
benkay: cold fusion, asteroid mining..."just ten years away!"
benkay: "Mr. Anderson acknowledged that technical hurdles and cost considerations have turned the initial vision into a distant dream."
benkay: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303417104579544072639525550?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702303417104579544072639525550.html
benkay: blueocean: you know if you join channels before you turn on your hostmask we can all see where you're connecting from
benkay: !up blueocean
benkay: trolled u all.
benkay: now up yourself, princessnell /msg assbot !up
benkay: !down princessnell
benkay: ;;gettrust assbot princessnell
benkay: ;;rate princessnell 1 first princess of bitcoin
benkay: ;;rate princessnell first princess of bitcoin
benkay: ;;ident princessnell
benkay: right on davout
benkay: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:fcb305dbacd9bdd66cdd9bad1d0db50c29c66d1ecf1d4853a00bd0c0
benkay: ;;eauth benkay
benkay: troll
benkay: bounce: money means being able to put steel behind your ideas.
benkay: ;;gettrust princessnell
benkay: so first off is princessnell on the wot you?
benkay: i thought you had this sorted, pincess
benkay: ;;ident princessnell
benkay: 'lo princessnell
benkay: anecdotally, a client in the political business tells me that web advertising budgets are just touching 10% of the overall campaign budget (the bulk of the remaining 90% is...television)
benkay: there are miles between sloth and knowing one's speciality, asciilifeform.
benkay: light stinging on the cunt, eh? i'm a little more interested but it's STILL FILTHY.
benkay: i ain't your whore.
benkay: ew
benkay: biggest and most professional!
benkay: !up frank1e
benkay: just the place other people pay the mortgage on </ you know i'm more than happy to help with the payments if i can stick my girl in it.
benkay: ;;gettrust princessnell
benkay: 24 hr metrics broken, mod6 ?
benkay: %t
benkay: hey mod6 can i convince you to load atcbot into #pdxtech-btc
benkay: %t
benkay: %h
benkay: who cares how the herps derp
benkay: or zamac.
benkay: but i wouldn't build a bridge out of Al.
benkay: its weight and stiffness are rather impressive.
benkay: (it's little because i am as well)
benkay: i have a neat little aluminum bicycle.
benkay: hastelloy << how much does hastelloy cost?
benkay: sometimes renting other people's hard disks is fine and cloud is shorthand for virtual butts argh do argh you pedantic dinosaurs argh
benkay: don't be talkin to me about 4140 vs 1018
benkay: you don't even build bridges
benkay: dude
benkay: every tool has a time and a place.
benkay: BingoBoingo: gtfo
benkay: fluffypony: aliyun? my dreams of bringing the cloud to asia have been crushed.
benkay: <BingoBoingo> benkay: Using the word broad is how we know you like them older << no that's how i describe the older ones
benkay: what'd i miss, BingoBoingo
benkay: <mircea_popescu> now look what benkay did : https://twitter.com/Artzicarol/status/464063334015197186/photo/1/large << can't say as i've seen the broad
benkay: ;;later tell princessnell benkay@gmail.com now gimme yours so we can actually communicate asynchronously
benkay: morning, thestringpuller
benkay: yup
benkay: if i don't respond within fifteen minutes i'm offline.
benkay: or /query benkay for conversation
benkay: /msg benkay yourmessage
benkay: well, you can't talk in here
benkay: no ping necessary
benkay: don't register until you've blown it away and restored it from backup at least twice.
benkay: ping me if you get into trouble.
benkay: Drew: ^^
benkay: no sense rushing.
benkay: start there.
benkay: ;;gettrust Drew
benkay: <mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves yeah. a good reason for bitcoin to start ignoring patents too. << bitcoin cares about patents today?!
benkay: <Drew> i would like to think that i ended up with a structured thinking process << hang out here and you might be so lucky as to have one beaten into you
benkay: <Drew> but while buying an idaho bun may taste different than a florida bun, a meyer subwoofer rented from idaho would be the same as one rented in florida << the tastes and social mores differ wildly across the different regions. f'r instance, you'll have a mighty hard time displacing red cube in portland (but again don't ever do anything in this town)
benkay: <mircea_popescu> why portland and not boston ? << generally there is only one reason to locate in portland and that is low-cost 'engineering' talent.
benkay: !b 3
benkay: bloody unknowable.
benkay: shit gets complicated fast when you touch both positive and negative terminals.
benkay: being profitable in btc.
benkay: that's the catch.
benkay: most investors who want to go long the USD do so with their USD investments.
benkay: rent has fleeced a bunch, Drew
benkay: !t h rent
benkay: recent grad vs. support engineer
benkay: "doesn't bleed coins"?
benkay: yeah, that's a good one.
benkay: trilema
benkay: (referring to BingoBoingo)
benkay: ^^
benkay: bitcoin competence is a baseline.
benkay: death to fiat fueled governments etc etc
benkay: but this is a bitcoin centric space.
benkay: various artists have been commissioned via this channel
benkay: nubbins` by virtue of being here sometimes has landed printing jobs
benkay: the opportunities in -assets are almost entirely bitcoin exclusive.
benkay: and also that you execute
benkay: 'course, there's no cardano yet.
benkay: mircea_popescu has a standing offer on the table for people to promote the cardano
benkay: precisely.
benkay: and the opportunities are neither guaranteed nor lucrative.
benkay: thing is that you gotta lurk
benkay: what you've *been* trusted to do
benkay: what you can be trusted to do
benkay: depends on your skills
benkay: !up Drew
benkay: nah
benkay: basically, other humans have to trust you.
benkay: repeated demonstrations of competence.
benkay: time.
benkay: you've got 4 minutes of voice left, Drew...
benkay: anything else, Drew ?
benkay: he gets it. hey mikey!
benkay: i can't trust you without it though.
benkay: not much use if you're running a fiat biz and only care about your fiat connections, though.
benkay: ;;google bitcoin-otc beginners guide
benkay: ;;google bitcoin-otc web of trust
benkay: web of trust
benkay: ;;gettrust Drew
benkay: otherwise, dog.
benkay: best way to substantiate claims about identity is...get in to the wot and get people vouching for you.
benkay: these are all claims as what require substantiation.
benkay: er wait maybe not
benkay: i'm out y'all
benkay: ya anyways
benkay: i don't really care
benkay: what experience do you have managing dopamine-depleted volunteers and arbitrating rape accusations on the fly?
benkay: have you done anything like this before?
benkay: who are you?
benkay: but you know
benkay: business rolls downhill to the heavy objects. be a heavy object.
benkay: start small and demonstrate competence.
benkay: go outside. meet people in the entertainment biz. raise money, do thing.
benkay: nah
benkay: not much more.
benkay: ya well that gets you some amount of politeness.
benkay: not much of that in this play.
benkay: Drew: we're mostly interested in businesses that cryptocurrencies enable.
benkay: "fartups".
benkay: second market if gambling's your thing.
benkay: call it a day
benkay: just index the s/p
benkay: !b 3
benkay: zero reason for btc folk to get involved.
benkay: sounds like a fiat business.
benkay: anyways.
benkay: burning man has a 'too big' branding problem already.
benkay: if your brand = your corporation, i don't see how that's addressing the concern.
benkay: brands. how even ams brand.
benkay: this sounds like "we;re going to be the grateful dead but ultra corporate and the kids will love it"
benkay: yeah they keep their brand where nobody can see it.
benkay: how do you plan to address the e-tard's demonstrated abhorrence of large brands?
benkay: town down the rhetoric e-boy.
benkay: literal perfect company?
benkay: holy f
benkay: ;;gettrust ben
benkay: hop on that handle
benkay: wow
benkay: ;;gettrust assbot Drew
benkay: also, you can't up yourself, i don't think.
benkay: /query assbot to start a conversation
benkay: or
benkay: /msg assbot yourmsg
benkay: !up Drew
benkay: not retarded at all. better the team you know than the miscellaneous derps from the meetup you don't.
benkay: !up Ziggy9263
benkay: sounds good!
benkay: mircea_popescu wants it, Jezzz
benkay: bitbet.us/bet/677
benkay: 677 is the unique id, Jezzz mircea_popescu
benkay: DrewHorne: who are you?
benkay: is there any field-leading work on option/parimutuel parity?
benkay: how's the arb look idiff vs bitbet?
benkay: <ThickAsThieves> in a few years everyone will just be their own business << why do you think i do what i do?!
benkay: until you've got the girls showing up with other girls you can't really call it a harem.
benkay: prrrrrrty vanilla.
benkay: .bait
benkay: gon' need some more whores.
benkay: dem vacuum tubes
benkay: because heating water isn't dead simple to begin with.
benkay: what the hell is a hybrid water heater?
benkay: ~>
benkay: i mean give me a fn delimiter and i'm going to delimit on that.
benkay: naw, imma notice whitespace no matter where it is.
benkay: at least the number of fields is consistent. only saving grace.
benkay: fuck. everyone. involved.
benkay: lol unix time machines
benkay: or do i need to write a state machine generator generator to identify unix time machines?
benkay: is the notion that because it's in square brackets it'd be fine to include a space?
benkay: ;;google cascadian hacker remote hands
benkay: can't tell if 'design' or just derps lifted out of someone else's DC for their 2 years in aws.
benkay: thestringpuller: you pang?
benkay: what's up fellow
benkay: i'm new to this pressed shitboard thing and can never tell if a thing is done incorrectly or if there's a deeper shitboard reason for the derptastic engineering.
benkay: is it unreasonable to expect that a delimeter not be used in fields?
benkay: additionally, some of their fields have spaces in them as well.
benkay: this is true.
benkay: in other news, AWS claims that their log files are space delimited.
benkay: !up AndrewJackson
benkay: unless of course they're the kind of whores that need pimping...
benkay: mircea_popescu: if they can't figure out where the money is i don't want to meet them.
benkay: what, and help the competition?
benkay: pretty sure i own the only contract development shop in the wot, but i'd be thrilled to meet some others.
benkay: agency is a web 3.14 name for a contract development shop.
benkay: far as i can see there's precisely one agency in the WoT.
benkay: bitch please.
benkay: not in the web of trust?
benkay: bitcoin agency?
benkay: sorry to interrupt but this is just too lulzy: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2699338/phps-openssl-sign-generates-different-signature-than-sscryptos-sign
benkay: see you sometime, frere.
benkay: he can up hisself, fluffypony
benkay: ;;gettrust assbot JorgePasada
benkay: mike_c: thanks for the bitbet rotator :)
benkay: good morning!