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mircea_popescu: aaanyway : generally you have a point, in a healthy organism i'm with the organism against the parasites
mircea_popescu: right, because they're here on a legitimate business purpose such as to study o.O
nubbins`: but about the ponzi types who don't know when to cut & run
nubbins`: *i* want them to get caught
mircea_popescu: nubbins` what, you want them to go to argentina, misinstall ac units and have decontextualized bbq parties so old before their time cvasi-jews laugh at them over obscure internet venues instead, like those russians ?!
nubbins`: but instead he gets a rolex collection and buys 3 mansions in the usa
nubbins`: what i don't get is that all these fucking assholes get rich and they just BLOW IT ALL on watches and cars and shit
mircea_popescu: in fairness, the thing is designed to be able to "sleep" with two women, but a) women doing it in pairs don't tend to be as bulky as these dudes, and moreover... you know.
mircea_popescu: yeah, that'd totally explain why there's three of them living together in bachelor pads.
nubbins`: ask 'em, maybe they're getting better rates than you
mircea_popescu: i have nfi how they can afford rent here.
mircea_popescu: then again, most people approximately shaved and in wifebeaters do.
mircea_popescu: they do look kinda jailbrdy...
thickasthieves: maybge they end up making out
mircea_popescu: think about it, men in their 30s partying without womenz.
mircea_popescu: they're really excited about it all too lmao
mircea_popescu: so these three very excited, rusophone derps moved into the building, spent all morning banging around trying to get a large ac unit installed (eventually welded it across on the frame, which was too small for it o.O) and now are playing loud russian pop music while making a bunch of smoke inside a small, 3x4 walled in cubical "balcony" of sorts, under the pretense of a bbq
mircea_popescu: well basically the reason anything's an alcohol is because someone took a hydrogen and pasted an -oh group.
mircea_popescu: then all his derivates make perfect sense, dihydrogen trioxide = lo-o-ol
mircea_popescu: as in "we did it for the lo-ols"
Adlai: "it is argued that an antibody in the human body can generate trioxidane as a powerful oxidant against invading bacteria." http://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/e_20040913/wentworth.html
mircea_popescu: "But I have to admit, I'd never thought much about the next analog of hydrogen peroxide. Instead of having two oxygens in there, why not three: HOOOH? Indeed, why not? This is a general principle that can be extended to many other similar situations. Instead of being locked in a self-storage unit with two rabid wolverines, why not three? Instead of having two liters of pyridine poured down your trousers, why not three?
gribble: The story of Pointless and Witless pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2013/the-story-of-pointless-and-witless/>; Witless Protection - Rotten Tomatoes: <http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/witless_protection/>; 'ACOD' limp and unfunny | New York Post: <http://nypost.com/2013/10/03/acod-limp-and-unfunny/>
Adlai: well, they need to be remembered so people remember to do their own risk diversification, something about eggs and baskets
Adlai can already see the rebranding to Pex™
penguirker: New blog post: http://contravex.com/2014/10/11/the-six-pillars-for-surviving-in-computer-times/
mircea_popescu: reading up on the me komet. jesus christ, a peroxide powered rocketplane that throws off its landing gear at takeoff, lands by sliding, unpowered and unsteered.
mircea_popescu: "24/12/13 Countdown reset due to delays, mailshot has copies of screenshots
merry xmas all ; 13/12/13 Sadly the beta release we wanted will be delayed by a week or so, more details in the newsletter ; 27/11/13 We have the gui wireframes back from designers.."
assbot: The stuple. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
kakobrekla: t 'bondholders' may seek to take legal action against CM's 'shareholders', including yourself, to seek to recover that debt. However, if 'bondholders' accept the restructure plan proposed below, that risk might be mitigated.
kakobrekla: CM was described as a "virtual company” by LTC-Global (and accordingly referred to as such in the CM Business Plan). However, as a matter of English law, CM may be considered a general partnership. If that is the case, then the 'shareholders' of CM - which includes yourself - would all be considered partners. As partners, they would all be jointly and severally liable for CM's debts, including the 'Bond'. It is therefore possible tha
thickasthieves: i dont think anyone has reported it yet, nor Deprived's leaving (he is connected via the bonds)
thickasthieves: I also have some of the emails with her statements if you want sources
assbot: Things I Won't Work With: Peroxide Peroxides. In the Pipeline:
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell cazalla BingoBoingo: So this is happening already... http://dpaste.com/32HWXTT <<< add http://pastebin.com/aCqtcurN in the htaccess at the top level.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: So this is happening already... http://dpaste.com/32HWXTT <<< add http://pastebin.com/aCqtcurN in the htaccess at the top level.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: that's about 20k a head if you imagine that expenditure is really "for the homeless". << Just think if they gave each homeless their aid cost for three years to move to Ohio... They'd be homed
mircea_popescu: irl, a bunch of spoiled bratty chicks that *should* be working for max hardcore get to pretend like they're important, charitable and good.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel: from wikipedia on San Francisco: "The city's homeless population has been estimated at 7,000 10,000 people ... The city spends $200 million a year on homelessness related programs." << that's about 20k a head if you imagine that expenditure is really "for the homeless".
mircea_popescu: all these things with "food bank" and "shelter" and etc only exist because someone wants to fuck a teenager somewhere. so it's a perfect tool to get their social position enforced : unless the owner is actually sucking your cock, on a per article basis, don't mention them. all problems solved and everyone happy thus.
mircea_popescu: nobody cares. they like to pretend everyone cares. nobody does.
mircea_popescu: re reporting on derps and their social justice bullshit : meh.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: <cazalla> mircea_popescu: I could swear the original DOJ Press release didn't have the 'y', but it looks like that has been updated too. <<< budovsk is a strange amount of name for an arthur to have.
mircea_popescu: this "making things accessible to the handicapped" kick is the worst idea ever. not for anything to do with itself, but taken way the fuck too far.
mircea_popescu: punkman: heh " It's your personal cheat sheet for Wall Street-level analysis of Silicon Valley-style companies." << you know, it's interesting to see how closely the www matches the needs, interests and representational abilities of a community college drop-out.
Adlai: please forgive the potentially naive question, but do you have any dedicated liquidity providing partners?
mircea_popescu: 2nd line is the proxies list
mircea_popescu: first line in there.
mircea_popescu: there've been sporadic reports of mpex.co not working, and i saw it report the wrong ip ONCE
Adlai: why not just use a decentralized registry? (or is that the .wsbitcoin tld?)
PeterL: mpex tld changes, is part of the "resilience from government shutdown"
Adlai: right, just some dns hiccups on the one domain that i knew of
mircea_popescu: in other words nothing has happened to mpex, it's been in continuous operation since whatever, 2011
assbot: MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange.
assbot: MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange.
Adlai: well, last time it wasn't loading... now there's some .wsbitcoin thingy and i'm confused
punkman: love it "Full documentation currently takes the form of idiosyncratic tangled lisp source"
mircea_popescu: Adlai you can always check out the logs,
Adlai is still wondering why exactly he was invited here, other than "put odd shit on github"
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mircea_popescu: if the wallet is old enough you can just do strings wallet
Adlai: then 1.5 years ago?
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kakobrekla: o, you are in the wot
kakobrekla: hi there
PeterL: aha, and if people spam deedbots, they get negrated
PeterL: new game, pennyrace: throw up an empty deed and race to get the tenth of a millibit it spits out
punkman: maybe, or give people a chance to sweep them
punkman: I take the hash of each deed, concatenate those to create the "bundle", then hash the bundle and make a private key out of that
PeterL: so right now you verify text by hashing directly from the text to an address?
punkman: without creating a private key, so the funds are burned
punkman: for existing deedbot, the whole bundle goes through sha256, then that hash is manipulated to create a public address
PeterL: then anybody could hash the text, and see that the first instance of coins moing to the generated address was in that particular block
PeterL: my idea: have the bot add a line of random characters at one end of the text, hash the text in a deterministic way to get a privkey
thickasthieves: if i recall they are getting someone else to recode
PeterL: The spec says to generate an address from hashing the text, is there a way for other people to verify this?
PeterL: Currently it posts the deed text and an address with a transaction at a certain time, is there a way to verify that these go together?
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penguirker: New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/ethereum-developer-to-insurers-consider-covering-bitcoin-risk/
thickasthieves: there is a decent plugin for setting up misc wordpress security, i think it's called ithemes now
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=borg | They are "led" by the Borg Queen, who oversees all the operation of the Collective, but at one time, Jean-Luc Picard of the U.S.S. Enterprise was assimilated and ...
Vexual: but thats a kinda food in shit out and whats the electricty bill look lik ekinda metric
Vexual: it's said nyc is one of the most efficient cities
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Vexual: most folks can't fathom these numbers
punkman: I leave gourmet leftovers by the recycling sometimes, usually gone in a few hours
cazalla: ended up going the bottlo' btw
Vexual: if you're not getting a juice box and a museli bar i presume you seek other food
punkman: so there ya go, 1 BTC = 3kg of rice per day for a year
cazalla: maybe they don't like rice but prime rib
thestringpuller: etc. etc. in sanity land you can effectively feed the homeless for much less than what sean's outpost is paying
gabriel_laddel: from wikipedia on San Francisco: "The city's homeless population has been estimated at 7,000 10,000 people ... The city spends $200 million a year on homelessness related programs."
thestringpuller: take items from free from stores like kroger and publix that they are going to throw out anyways
gabriel_laddel: thestringpuller: where is this? sanityland?
thestringpuller: but they are super efficient
cazalla: i wonder if he would've done better putting off helping the homeless for a few years, sitting on teh coins and then starting his homeless zoo when they were worth more
Vexual: bb: how many are there?
thestringpuller: Indeed. Just thought it was interesting because long ago mircea_popescu said not to tie economics and business operations together.
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: I'm weighting how to treat the issue of people depending on bitcoin for expenses find themselves poorer as news.
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo did you see the story on Sean's Outpost yet?
gabriel_laddel: thestringpuller: I suppose if you're following the D3 example you provided it makes little difference as its fixed dimensions.
gabriel_laddel: thestringpuller: step1: http://postimg.org/image/luob5tc0j/ step2: (visual clipping error) http://postimg.org/image/nxyqdhbtf/ the process of going from 1 to 2 is resizing browser from half to fullscreen, then dragging graph to previous clipping edge.
BingoBoingo: <cazalla> mircea_popescu: I could swear the original DOJ Press release didn't have the 'y', but it looks like that has been updated too.
gabriel_laddel: manager. what if you want to fiddle with something in the package you've installed a (by definition) non-standard fashion? I hope you like grepping through sources, cause you're not gonna have M-. etc.
gabriel_laddel: thestringpuller: your client starts your visualization with the browser taking up 1/2 screen and resizes it. sure you're able to grab the relative location of all nodes and regenerate the whole graph to prevent it from having visual clipping errors, but UGH, fixing this requires CSS/HTML hackers. okay. someone has a library that handles this. cool. you install this library how? JS doesn't have a (standard) package
thestringpuller: D3 is tricky, I was introduced to it in a class in 2013 and still don't know what the hell I'm doing without experts helping me ~_~
thestringpuller: then it'll get more functionality as people demand it etc.
gabriel_laddel: thestringpuller: I'm curious as to the stack you're using for the visualizer. Care to divulge details?
Vexual: google does it too, more expensive ads load quicker, cheap advertisers teach their customers rage
punkman: I tried to watch something on hulu few weeks ago, the damn ads wouldn't buffer so there was like 15 min of stuttering video for 20 min of content
Vexual: in between sex and the city?
thestringpuller: neat song btw in the youtube video
thestringpuller: random bloke: "which address is yours?" Vexual: "The one that says bad muthafucka on it."
gribble: Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
assbot: Gotye - State Of The Art - official video - YouTube
Vexual: thestringpuller.txt
Vexual: i notice the difference between an uppercut in kinshasa and paris
Vexual: im sure theres a better name
Vexual: i can get some potatoes to the fermenter if you want
assbot: Sacher Musak - "Gorba The Chief" - YouTube
Anduck: 06:31:02 >+mircea_pop| http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=anduck&sign=ANY&type=SENT << there's no rating from anduck to this "identifi" identity there. << that's because the 'anduck' there isn't same anduck account. (it's me though)
Vexual: didnt the afr print some front page fuckup wthat was on sale in perth for a few hours recently?
Vexual: better that than some rude placeholder that goes to the printers
Vexual: sux when you fuck up the headline
fluffypony: The url changed
cazalla: mircea_popescu, BingoBoingo posted the article, he might have a reason for dropping the y but i've changed it and will ask
cazalla: qntra assumed the reader knew
thickasthieves: looks weird with "Dell" being the only attribute
cazalla: just as people know i'm not recycling shared links here for their consumption
assbot: In light of the Gentoo Linux Bitcoin client kerfluffle, I just created a Docker container to quickly & easily build the latest version of bitcoind from source. : Bitcoin
thickasthieves: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2iwt5q/in_light_of_the_gentoo_linux_bitcoin_client/
ben_vulpes: today one of the contractors gave *me* a joint
thickasthieves: i never liked the name
mircea_popescu: i was talking about the identi.fi thing again
thickasthieves turns down the hope.
thickasthieves: sometimes these things come back to life as a body part of something decent
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves kinda what irks me. so obviously wasted effort, and a lot of it. i don't think the people in question are actually nefariously motivated, but you'd think old timers'd have more sense. anyway.
mircea_popescu: it's this mozilla evil. sort-of like the darkemail or w/e that was
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user luke-jr to user theymos: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 11 via 6 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=luke-jr&dest=theymos | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=theymos | Rated since: Mon Nov 8 13:36:30 2010
ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust luke-jr theymos
mircea_popescu: anyway. i wonder if the long term effect will be to help idiots get familiar with the wot (positive) or to get idiots to think they;re part of the wot on a facebook login based bootstrap website (negative)
thickasthieves: i'd still trust them less for logging in via facebook even if auth'd
assbot: Rating Details for User 'theymos'
mircea_popescu: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=theymos&sign=ANY&type=RECV << as compared.
thickasthieves: me either
mircea_popescu: http://identi.fi/id/account/theymos%40bitcoin-otc.com << look at that.
thickasthieves: i dont think the facebook part is a crime
mircea_popescu: basically, guy imported the otc wot as-is, is not talking back to it, and is allowing users on his system to log in through shit like facebook, and make ratings.
thickasthieves: each wot having a trust rating with another wot
mircea_popescu: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=anduck&sign=ANY&type=SENT << there's no rating from anduck to this "identifi" identity there.
thickasthieves: a future of wots would need to chain wots together right?
thickasthieves: looks like it supports otc, rather than just scraping data, no?
mircea_popescu: basically the original creator of tardstalk surreptitiously forked otc
thickasthieves: "Identifi is an address book application that stores its data in a distributed fashion on the computers of its users. The stored information is not owned or centrally administered by anyone."
gribble: Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
mircea_popescu: http://identi.fi/id/account/mircea_popescu@bitcoin-otc.com << check out the scrappers ?
mircea_popescu: "this letter can not be used for any purpose". how fucking dare they ?
mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByxGzdECIAIHbN7.jpg:large << check out the gall of the aussie bureaucracy
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/mtgox-freeze-money-absurd-answers-of-support-student-desperate-and-out-option.95502/#post-1613198 << back in the day, before timisoara conference, last weeks of mtgox.
mircea_popescu: anyway, not that anything karpeles [ever] said can be taken at face value, but admire the difference between mtgox and bitbet when it comes to the position of the usg. perfectly symmetrical, karpeles is "up to the usg" ; usg is up to bitbet.
kakobrekla: and you really tried just once, before the rating, so wtf.
mircea_popescu: xiando i just fixed that above. there's a delay, bout an hour or so, cause multiple cache layers.
ben_vulpes: it'll percolate through the mud
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ben_vulpes: pahahaha what the hell
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: devthedev_ cool!
penguirker: New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/strange-in-the-street/
devthedev: mircea_popescu: I liked your analogy in regards to the Internet Watch Foundation claim.
thickasthieves: time for the trip to 400-440
thickasthieves: they want exposure
ben_vulpes: more hassle on their end, an email on BingoBoingo's.
mircea_popescu: not a bad idea, considering they probably want exposure. dubious if it's worth the hassle.
assbot: Beardie Branson backs Blockchain's Bitcoin bandwagon The Register
penguirker: New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/gamer-currency-hyper-goes-where-bitcoin-cant-into-the-bin/
ben_vulpes: the only language adequate to replace c++ for btc dev
mike_c: siri doesn't have to produce a readable text though, just understand the gist.
mircea_popescu: do they still ?
mike_c: yes, but machines do a crappy job of voice/pdf -> text. maybe the turks are the ones who clean it up.
mircea_popescu: and seeing how the very purpose of this stuff is for people to be able to do deep searches for impredictable later interests, it'd be less than useful.
mircea_popescu: mike_c i wouldn't trust random fiverr derp not to mess up the words
mike_c: <+mircea_popescu> you can't have people do this by hand forever. << that might be the easiest solution actually. set up some amazon mechanical turk automation.
gribble: Use the gettrust command instead. See http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/OTC_Rating_System#Relying_on_the_rating
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gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user nanotube to user mtgox: Level 1: 6, Level 2: 38 via 9 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=nanotube&dest=mtgox | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mtgox | Rated since: Mon Nov 8 13:35:39 2010
bounce: it's the obvious and easily typed "ratingsystem getrating"
gribble: You rated user mthreat on Sat Jun 21 05:42:17 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: Awesome search ; coffee.
gribble: You rated user cazalla on Wed Apr 16 22:29:03 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: New blood..
mthreat: i'm a week behind then ;)
mircea_popescu: cazalla the point being that it's easier to format/spellcheck a predeturdified turd than to write from scratch
cazalla: i don't see the value in just copying to a post without making it readable
cazalla: have not finished reading logs but the thing i do not like about the txt version is that it's difficult to read unless it's formatted correctly
BingoBoingo: Yeah, so far most of the deturdified text has been low hanging fruit, but automating the hard stuff is going to be nice sauce
mircea_popescu: you'd think everyone's got a college degree means they are god damned good at exactly that. but...
mircea_popescu: not that anyone actually even exists in the cloud of vaporized shit comprising the kids-of-www that even has the drive or the intellectual werewithal to take down an hour of speech or an acre of blackboard anyway.
mircea_popescu: being able to take a turd and turn it into readable content within an hour or a day, and being able to so process gigabytes of crud a month is, by itself, more barrier to entry than all the collective "press" has
BingoBoingo: It's going on the agenda.
mircea_popescu: iirc asciilifeform mentioned some pdf textualizer in the logs ?
mircea_popescu: but im serious about the ocr and the text to speech. it can do the bulk of the work.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> and prolly best to make it a page rather than a txt file. people want what they want when they click. << Updated this one now to have both
mircea_popescu: not after a dld and a notepad or w/e they use.
mircea_popescu: and prolly best to make it a page rather than a txt file. people want what they want when they click.
mircea_popescu: textifying all the pdfs/scans idiots dump online, as well as textifying audio/video are very legitimates avenues for qntra to add value
mircea_popescu: the very definition of a rogue state is "one which construes itself more powerful than the private citizen"
mircea_popescu: The government posits two standards of behavior: one for private citizens, who must adhere to a strict standard of conduct construed by the government, read a final filing Tuesday. The other for the government, which, with its elastic ability to effect electronic intrusion, can deliberately, cavalierly, and unrepentantly transgress those same standards.
assbot: ./koinify announced the addition of ./VinnyLingham to the advisory board and ./ofnumbers as a mentor: http://t.co/K4vpqjgrHX
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the technicality known as "technically, i gotta eat, and these people are paying for it."
BingoBoingo: The judge alledges he could have claimed ownership in a way that wouldn't be a confession, but which would have effectively made his taking the stand either have to end in a confession or perjury
midnightmagic: must the neighbour give testimoney that the police were trespassing to invalidate an apprehension? trespass is presumed, not proven.
thickasthieves: he'd need to admit the server was his first
kanzure: did he claim that his property rights were violated, or that the owner's property rights were violated?