cazalla: prolly but everyone was claiming its official ISIS where as the twitter feed itself said hey, we're not official
mircea_popescu: A twitter account, @QA_AF, is now seeking bitcoin to assist in paying server costs although the donation address2 is yet to receive any bitcoin donations. << you know, those are usually scams.
mircea_popescu: shit why do these bottles keep emptying.
BingoBoingo: Yes. Now that the domain's been pointed It's a matter of messing with configs until site comes alive
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform meanwhile, the hard questions : http://trilema.com/2014/no-such-labs-snsa-september-2014-statement/#comment-108786
mircea_popescu: note that i am not offering criticism, merely halping the pot air.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> i'd have swallowed it already. << well, being able to sell the cardano would probably fork for that purpose.
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> i mean, a couple thousand hits a day shouldn't trigger any limits.. << you don't know much about the shitbox biz model do you.
cazalla: i had hoped it was the ISIS post
bounce: there's more to this fancy industrial world than just the USA. oop norf you can even learn to speak french and stuff.
asciilifeform: ... to think and work (no day job in the ugandan salt mines, for example) is not a cheap proposition. if i knew of a magical pill against this, i'd have swallowed it already.
asciilifeform: im sure he has some sort of plan to extract himself... << i've lost count of the people who asked me about this. it's terrifyingly elementary problem - living is expensive. it's cheaper in, e.g., uganda, than usa, but the equipment i use does not get cheaper when far from the industrial world. on the contrary. and extraction of my own sorry hide, and that of my pet, in a way that still leaves me able to think and
mike_c: plus, they get -2 points for serving a 200 with some fucking blank page instead of a 50x.
mike_c: was the excessive usage from an attack?
kakobrekla: super fast server until you use them
asciilifeform: deep inside the gravity well, probably not getting out alive; but will carry out project no. 1 and hopefully no. 2 as well before obola calls my name.
mircea_popescu: fuck do i know the details.
mircea_popescu: im sure he has some sort of plan to extract himself, and well, he's the only one in the position to make that plan
mircea_popescu: <thickasthieves> but as i see it the co has the budget and is severely crippled << eh, one of the major advantages of being listed on mpex is that people can make their own decisions. noine of that "gotta move to sf" bullshit.
kakobrekla: i dont see them coming and im not going start to
asciilifeform: aha yes. i remembered almost the correct figure.
thickasthieves: well then i need to stfu
kakobrekla: thickasthieves prolly confusing with the S.MG
bounce: that's what, two suitcases and one large container, thereabouts?
asciilifeform: thickasthieves: read the s.nsa page on mircea_popescu's site.
thickasthieves: wasnt the raise like 10kbtc?
asciilifeform: thickasthieves: doesn't matter if the shareholders all wished this (in what hallucinogenic fantasy land?) - 300btc is simply nowhere near sufficient for this, considering esp. that most of it is direly necessary for the first mass production run.
thickasthieves: cmon you think shareholders would complain if the guy running the show needed to relocate on its dime?
thickasthieves: and have them do some work
asciilifeform: thickasthieves: get vendors to accept btc << that would not solve the problem of a 200+K usd machine sitting in my civilian home for easy confiscation by
asciilifeform: too risky to be cashing em << yes. but the thing i am doing instead is also very ugly, and i'm genuinely surprised that there's been no hatemail over it.
bounce gets the $5 wrench. one way to find out...
kakobrekla: yeah, but you would say that in either case
asciilifeform: for our 'friends' reading this, i do not have the piggy in my own hands, nor remote access to it, cannot give it up in the torture room...
kakobrekla: we can wait. as long as we get the wifi.
asciilifeform: mike_c: i doubt the shareholders would be happy with 50+% of the piggy burning in the fire of the confiscatory u.s. tax.
assbot: Logged on 02-10-2014 05:23:31; asciilifeform: i may have said it before, but i will repeat: s.nsa has a piggy (see mircea_popescu's site); every month, i invoice him for materials, get some btc. but, since i can't safely convert btc to usd where i live, i just sit on them. they will probably be buried with me. hence: s.nsa, presently, in practice runs on guess what (my pocket money...)
gribble: Error: There's really no reason why you should have underscores or brackets in your mathematical expression. Please remove them.
asciilifeform: if i had 300k, would have long ago been in the middle of product #2...
mike_c: tat you better go to sleep before you lose all your btc to the kiddies
kakobrekla: not gonna happen without the wifi
mike_c: so don't use it to take over the world. still seems useful as cloaking device.
asciilifeform: 'anonabox' << aside from the obvious objections - this apparatus is not only trivial to build (out of any reprogrammable 'linux router') but was even sold in the past, by others.
asciilifeform: Till you have to maintain it << the whole concept of 'software maintenance' is actually braindamaged. obligatory: http://www.niquette.com/paul/issue/softwr02.htm
mircea_popescu: on turns into grabbing a strangers face in a club and trying to plant one on them, totally uninvited. In speaking with foreign-born male friends, the ambiguity of no comes up as the most oft-repeated frustration, as most have spent their lives understanding, rightly so, that no means to retreat."
mircea_popescu: "Here, when attempting to pick someone up or take someone out, no is not actually always a true rejection. Girls, perhaps as a shield against the chamuyo fired from all directions, are conditioned to almost invariably turn down guys at first and second, and maybe third approach. And for the other half of this symbiotic relationship, guys are conditioned to pursue with total abandon, which on (unacceptable) occasi
rithm: it's some tried and true drug that was used recreationally for a half-century...except they added an isomer
mircea_popescu: and they came to all SORTS of fucktarded conclusions
mircea_popescu: apparently they've been discussing it in their dedicated forum (50+ ppl mentioned it, NOT ONE thought to link the fucking discussions, because they're on the internet ,right ? what is a linlk ?)
mircea_popescu: in the literal sense, insert penis dent unit
mircea_popescu: half of them clearly have no fucking idea wqhat a computer even is. at all.
mircea_popescu: the emails i get tho... because these are WORDPRESS users right, so they can't leave fucking comments, they email
mircea_popescu: so i sent this notification thing to all the god damned blogs that were used in the ddos last month. like 80k in and im not even done in any sense.
bounce: at least they're in good company
mircea_popescu: dude the people who run wordpress...
mircea_popescu: btc ain't going anywhere in the interval.
bounce: gah. found a piece of software that promised to let me configure some obscure hardware I happen to have. doesn't compile on freebsd because linuxisms all over. yet it does have supposedly-freebsd-enabling #ifdefs here and there. something with release engineering, lack thereof.
mircea_popescu: and don't be dumb enough to live in any sort of common property arrangement, if that's what's bothering you.
mircea_popescu: just like the tsa works!
mircea_popescu: and if wife doesn't want to come you know right there she's angling to get murdered.
mircea_popescu: it's just as much connected to the internet as rural pennsylvania or w/e
mircea_popescu: i dun get why these guys don't just move to saudi arabia.
mircea_popescu: o is this the namesys guy that killed his wife ?
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves: nsa doesnt let you tell when they tell you what to do << nah it wasn't a mole, it was an exploit. either the bash thing or something else not yet announced.
bounce: haven't really looked into http but I'm not surprised it's on par with html, ie not really parseable. esp. the w3c specs stand out because they're only written for the html writer, with nary a thought to the parser writer.
mircea_popescu: jurov you know this is what they should have people do in prison. forget those dumbass straw braiding things
bounce was on the receiving end of a project where there wasn't a reference output generator for their extraspecial hand-crafted "xmlrpc" parsing, written in stereotypical India.
mircea_popescu: the very few people i knew who actually got c code consistently right eventually gave up and moved to asm
jurov: bounce: I did HTTP stuff in C (dev/maintainer of ziproxy.sf.net) and it was just plainly impossible to do everything right, it had bugs all the time
mircea_popescu: funny how mp has the news a week early and errrything.
bounce: no specific pentests, no, but I usually do try and hit all the corner cases and esp. if it has to go back and forth, write both sides of the link so I'm sure they can talk to each other.
assbot: Logged on 14-10-2014 17:07:36; asciilifeform: https://www.nccgroup.com/en/blog/2014/10/analysis-of-the-linux-backdoor-used-in-freenode-irc-network-compromise << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-08-2014#807732
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mircea_popescu: hickasthieves: they want you to review your own site? <<< who was saying earlier the coindesk spam is "not from coindesk" ? Hm ?
mircea_popescu: and if you know any chinese people who would be interested in covering btc in china, from mining to anything else, there's prbably a job opening there
mircea_popescu: xinxi: do you guys trust coindesk? << the reason qntra.net exists is because we emphatically do not trust coindesk
bounce: <jurov> in my experience it is more about stuf like meticulously checking your input (such as no negative numbers,. broken unicode, sql metacharacters, etc.) << perversely I do enjoy writing input parsers in C or C++. it's not even that hard, with the right approach, though some encodings make it unnecessarily annoying.
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 the proper avenue would be to put all this into a large file and then grep the hell out of it ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: devthedev: kakobrekla had to deal with BitBet DOs's
kakobrekla: <devthedev> BingoBoingo: I have a dedicated server at my house if that could be of any assistance. < you have a death wish?
BingoBoingo: devthedev: New hosting has been arranged, waiting for cazalla to wake up and aim the domain
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user gabriel_laddel to user devthedev: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=gabriel_laddel&dest=devthedev | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=devthedev | Rated since: Tue Jul 15 12:31:42 2014
gabriel_laddel: ;; gettrust devthedev
BingoBoingo: !up devthedev
kakobrekla: thickasthieves if 'goat' says he is going to sue lawlsky, its the real thing.
thickasthieves: bgupta, you going to the lawsky thing tonight?
thickasthieves: goat is gonna be at the lawsky thing
kakobrekla: We apologize for the inconvenience. It appears that there is a stuck process on this hypervisor at this time.
kakobrekla: from the experiments above, only caffeine was allowed
thickasthieves: happened to me once too, but i was on some drug no one told me the name of
gabriel_laddel: 17:40:23xinxi:I read your comments carefully and have revised the site according to them. << tbh, I got bored within the first 1-2 minutes of browsing around. you probably want to pay someone who knows about copy, marketing etc. to fix it.
kakobrekla: the longest streak i had with pc was 72hrs
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xinxi: where is the note?
gribble: Sent 2 weeks, 2 days, 15 hours, and 37 minutes ago: <TheNewDeal> hey what's your history like with kakobrekla?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gabriel_laddel: 16:18:34xinxi:is gabriel_laddel here? << people generally read the logs, and there is a feature for gribble known as ";; later"
thickasthieves: nsa doesnt let you tell when they tell you what to do
asciilifeform: the 64 mega-buck question - whence came the pwnhole. the rootkit, while well-made, is considerably less interesting.
assbot: Logged on 24-08-2014 23:34:47; mircea_popescu: pronouncement #b : and then he spake thus : ye knoweth the evil people of the world know no rest, for the very fire of hell scorches their gullets on the inside so they may never sit quietly in a room. and therefore it will come to pass that they will put pressure on freenode, starting for instance last thursday.
assbot: Analysis of the Linux backdoor used in freenode IRC network compromise | NCC Group
asciilifeform: https://www.nccgroup.com/en/blog/2014/10/analysis-of-the-linux-backdoor-used-in-freenode-irc-network-compromise << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-08-2014#807732
thickasthieves: tell them they can review it and you will facilitate with a test account and interview
xinxi: yeah, it seems this defeat the purporse of a “review”.
thickasthieves: but you reviewing your own site, paying them 1btc, makes them not a news site, but a shill
thickasthieves: dude, they should be paying you if it's news
thickasthieves: how much do they charge you for that?
thickasthieves: they want you to review your own site?
thickasthieves: you just gotta filter out the scum sometimes
thickasthieves: but they still are fastest with some news
punkbot: just setting up the account
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xinxi: especially because they inherited and preserved traditional chinese culture quite well.
xinxi: i hate the japs who killed so many people.
mats_cd03: meh. japs are in their own circle of hell atm
xinxi: you know the reason why we hate jps.
thickasthieves: just dont ignore people only cuz they disagree
thickasthieves: use the ignore feature liberally on that forum
xinxi: yeah, I know. I just need to know the fact.
xinxi: can anybody check whether the reply from digitalgrow racism? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=821889.0
xinxi: are people working now? there are only a few here.
thickasthieves: try using their method with hundreds or thousands of btc and itll fall apart
thickasthieves: also they used a very small investment
xinxi: right, I traded for years in the FX market. Backtesting usually does not work well. The market is always changing.
thickasthieves: then you employ for next 2 mos and get raped
thickasthieves: it's also hard to value what they did because you can simply tweak your trading method, backtest, and adjust til you get favorable backtest for the timeframe
ben_vulpes: real MIT died with the lisp machines i guess
ben_vulpes: <thickasthieves> i beat MIT http://www.coindesk.com/mit-bitcoin-trading-simulation-yields-profit-89-50-days/ << what the hell are idiots like this doing at MIT
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asciilifeform: dynamo flashlights << these are very popular here in usa also. sold nearly everywhere (cheap chinese crap, but, basic idea is same)
mats_cd03: mircea_popescu: the problem is: too much noise and insufficient signal
mats_cd03: mircea_popescu: i am currently using the following search: JUDGE(BLAKE) & ("THE GOVERNMENT") & ("PAPERWORK" "PRIVACY" "SEARCH WARRANT" "ELECTRONIC SURVEILLANCE" "EMAIL" "SUPPRESS EVIDENCE" "HARD DRIVE" "TRANSMISSION" "WRITTEN") & DA(aft 12-31-1989 & bef 01-01-2003)
mircea_popescu: so tell me what you're doing and what the problem is ?
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 i'd love to, but i can't do it in the abstract.
mircea_popescu: what braindamage school do these people go to ?
pete_dushenski: "11-10-2014 Apple confirms that with DL1769 in place that "The issue that remains, while it raises interesting questions, is not a security issue in and of itself."
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: a great deal of the shop's work is ios. can't not and do what we're paid for.
pete_dushenski: library) of OSX 10.9 (all versions) and 10.10/R2 are the only known standard installations that pass the bash exploit string back and up to getnameinfo()."
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: fair enough… "At this point of time the stock resolvers (in combination with the libc
assbot: Full Disclosure: CVE-2014-3671: DNS Reverse Lookup as a vector for the Bashvulnerability (CVE-2014-6271 et.al.)
ben_vulpes: people are very aware of how stupid this is, because i email them things that i want printed to remind them that they bought a poorly featured printer.
ben_vulpes: they never come with modern chips, so i have to detatch from my primary network to use the printer in our office.
nubbins`: wifi-enabled printers, not the best idea
mircea_popescu: the entire "monsanto increases yields" fallacy is based on the fraudulent proposition that shit-tomatoes are = tomatoes.
nubbins`: they
mircea_popescu: except they're bicycles.
mircea_popescu: suppose i have a car factory, and you came by and proposed to sell me a patented mechanism which when added to the factory, "increased yielkds' by 50%.
mats_cd03: it's ok for things to go to shit, as long as some of us can be more productive with the land that's left.
mircea_popescu: "it's okay for things to go to shit, as long as there's more of us" ?
mircea_popescu: what exactly is the opinion you're holding here ?
mircea_popescu: either feed more people with better or feed fewer people with better. but less... no.
ben_vulpes: chetty: just a wee touch of the inflation hidden in decreasing quality.
chetty: today i buy metal halides to light the office, because flourescents are the root of all evil.//nah just a little branch
ben_vulpes: today i buy metal halides to light the office, because flourescents are the root of all evil.
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform remember the russian dynamo-flashlights ?
mircea_popescu: wow those'd be so cute. do they exist ?
mircea_popescu: which accounts for why it only appeared after the industrial revolution made everything cheap and abundant
mircea_popescu: in other news, eat linoleum!
mircea_popescu: which i guess brings the side point for all the latter day big pharma purists : you oppose monsanto's genetic novelties ? how about margerine ?
mircea_popescu: how their digestion works in humans is mostly a matter of chance
mircea_popescu: but becauise the process is random, a good chunk of them are innovative, which is to say, not found in nature
mircea_popescu: fun fact : crisco was invented in order to broaden the supply base for soap production
chetty: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/10/12/imf-austerity-is-much-worse-for-the-economy-than-we-thought/
thickasthieves: playing the waves
thickasthieves: then went long
thickasthieves: only slept a couple the night before
rithm: 8 year old botfarm ops ddos for fun these dyas i hear
rithm: i thought you wer scraping away all the pretty from coindesk and plaigarizing it as your own
rithm: BingoBoingo didn't qntra basically scrape other sites
xinxi: i am the admin
rithm: pick up the mouse and say hello Cazalla
mircea_popescu: move it there asap.
xinxi: yeah, as a computer scientist, I pretty much enjoy watching them hacking my system.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo shit what happened there ?
mircea_popescu: their idea being that getting locals to use ccs more instead of cash will be worthwhile on the long term.
BingoBoingo: Can anyone else see qntra this morning or is every one else seeing our page as suspended by the host?
mircea_popescu: speaking of worse deals : to counteract what they call "inflation" but is moreover a very drastic "batten down the hatches" middle class response, which sent durable goods tumbling 70%!!!!
xinxi: I did mention it’s c. but i did not claim the causality.
xinxi: but our system is distributed, hacking the web program doesn’t make you rich.
mircea_popescu: why is gribble's google so scammy ? i get http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHFXG3r_0B8 on the 2nd spot in google.
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mircea_popescu: it can't be hacked, it's in c. says so on the /security page.
xinxi: right, there are quite limited number of inputs. I double checked all the input data and make sure that they are right before they are sent to the database.
mircea_popescu: "here is my ten line c program that does something, here are the 45479586947 lines which make sure it doesn't do something else"
mircea_popescu: it's c after all. it invented the stack smash
mircea_popescu: xinxi: i see. cunt is usually forbitten in the US. << i hope you've not bitten any.
gribble: Bitstamp | This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 23550.527 bitcoins, for a total of 18333428.3555 USD and take the price to 99999.9900. | Data vintage: 19.2906 seconds
gribble: Bitstamp | A market order to buy 10000 bitcoins right now would take 4485257.6709 USD and would take the last price up to 526.3000 USD, resulting in an average price of 448.5258 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 8.1685 seconds
gribble: Bitstamp | A market order to buy 1000 bitcoins right now would take 410231.4869 USD and would take the last price up to 415.0900 USD, resulting in an average price of 410.2315 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0431 seconds
mircea_popescu: i only do it in the sense of managing people who do.
mircea_popescu: "you do this how exactly? the interface runs in the browser but is written in C++? do you know something that I don't?" << cgi-bin baby! it's been there since before php was even invented.
mircea_popescu: what's the impression that generally gives ? ridiculous ? annoying ?
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't expect it to the fifth classic, but, generally, how does chinese classify as far as the native speaker is concerned ?
xinxi: yah, I can see the difference.
mircea_popescu: jurov: good we have two. yet better they don't diverge. <<< b-a is apparently not short of miracles i tell you.
mircea_popescu: xanthyos: you are now. << they aren't fucking tho.
mircea_popescu: cazalla: maybe he lost his bitcoins, i can't imagine why someone would promote this shit otherwise << i don't think you understand max keiser. this is what he does.
G________: Hey all, super n00b here - sorry. I am trying to verify with gribble, not sure what to do with the challenge string.
mircea_popescu: assbot: Unlike Bitcoin, Gold or Silver - - - StartCOIN (when held at /StartJOIN) pays diviends EVERY WEEK. Currently ann. rate = 34% <<< that's one way to sell the entire demurage thing
mircea_popescu: you gotta read the logs eh.
xinxi: where is the review?
xinxi: and got a reply: the fact you got a username that could be seen making you a chinese scammer
mircea_popescu: i suppose in retrospect the answer is, as it is usually the case, contained in the question.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mist you work with random security outfits that can't handle "thousands of incoming freenoders" and get raped by nsa on a regular basis but you won't talk to the people that eat nsa for lunch. why so derpy already ?!
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RagnarDanneskjol: "To that, I say, the website’s profitability is in no way, shape, or form your business or your problem. Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’know?Your business is not getting scammed and your problem is when you do, y’kno
cazalla: unless he really was a cunt, then you would call him mate and ask if he wanted to punch on
cazalla: RagnarDanneskjol, pretty much, it would avoid people like Azelphur getting the wrong impression
xinxi: i see. cunt is usually forbitten in the US.
RagnarDanneskjol: should have everyone watch a ronnie johns orientation video upon entering the country
xinxi: yes, i did enjoy my time there. most people are quite kind hearted.
cazalla: for example, we call our friends (mates) cunts and blokes that want a bit of biff (cunt) a mate these days
cazalla: sounds like the right attitude when visiting
xinxi: Anyway, I don’t worry about that much. as when I went to AU, I saw most people are pretty nice there.
RagnarDanneskjol: exactly- - thats the point - aussies are tough as shit - I imagine the schoolyard bullies there make any others look like pansies
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