frb: 2ch is the largest BBS in japan, it receives 5,000 posts per minute at peak period.
frb: gamergate is not interesting at all thickasthieves, i am just benefiting frmo it by providing a free speech imageboard for them.
mircea_popescu: their government failed, and this is what happens when your government fails.
frb: we are the international division of 2ch
thickasthieves: this whole gamergate thing has been so disinteresting i have yet to read anything about whatever the hell is going on
frb: so, racequeen.ph is in the philippines. that is our parent company.
mircea_popescu: but they have.
mircea_popescu: so what's in the philipines ?
frb: but i don't use them much now.
mircea_popescu: said the lazy qntra nonreporter
mircea_popescu: "chans don't understand how the world works!"
frb: i'm moving to the philippines in 10 days.
frb: they fundamentally misunderstand my site, basically.
assbot: Another Woman In Gaming Flees Home Following Death Threats
frb: http://www.lemonde.fr/pixels/article/2014/10/15/4chan-wizardchan-8chan-le-guide-des-forums-anonymes-les-plus-populaires-du-web_4505380_4408996.html http://kotaku.com/another-woman-in-gaming-flees-home-following-death-thre-1645280338 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2789937/female-game-developer-forced-flee-home-twitter-user-publishes-address-threatens-rape-kill-criticised-video-game-group.html
mircea_popescu: frb anyway, what's this news thing i'm missing ? all that google returns are two hits on x-box something or the other.
mircea_popescu: to replace the old .bait function
frb: we've been featured in MSNBC, CNN and CBS in the last week
mircea_popescu: i think most people do about the same.
mircea_popescu: frb i generally up new names, see if they're going to say something stupid or not
frb: because if you have questions i can answer them
frb: uh, thanks for the voice, is it because you know i'm admin. of 8chan.co or is it just random mircea_popescu ?
mircea_popescu: and they have this tendency to imagine that pretending about pretending is going to solve all their problems.
mircea_popescu: "I would like to start by saying that in context of the below, my identity is irrelevant. My identity becomes relevant if I break the law, which is something that neither myself nor my employees have done. " herp. "i am resigning. who is 'i' ? don't ask! and take my anon claim at face value as to everything else"
bounce: then again, it's not as bad as that. the socialists build their own old boys club and pass cushy jobs back and forth. well-paid jobs "helping" various types of the needy with plenty of taxpayer money. all the elitism, now with extra pretense.
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol: dayum. so has redundant domains like mpx been considered? .co .us .biz, etc << the domains aren't the problem.
bounce: actually, wasn't there already an app for that?
ben_vulpes: why should the bed make sounds?
ben_vulpes: and now the damn thing squeaks abominably during any vigorous motion
ben_vulpes: in other news, i rigidified my bed
mircea_popescu: i guess this is what you get when you adapt the schooling to "the needs and capacities" of the students.
mircea_popescu: as opposed to all the failure modes in history prior to that, which resulted from failing to follow the educational paradigm
mircea_popescu: idual, institutional, and societal). " << ironically, they got there by actually FOLLOWING the education system
mircea_popescu: "Citizens capable of contributing to the development of a sustainable society must first develop empathy. This empathy will be developed through an advanced awareness of oppression and inequity that exists at a local and national level. Students will become aware of inequities, examine why these inequities exist, understand the concept of institutionalized privilege, and recognize systematized oppression (e.g. indiv
mircea_popescu: meanwhile they multiplied to the degree they're the premier failure mode of the young adult.
mircea_popescu: (and that "back then" time is probably captured in road trip. tom green is the stereotypical libertard, 1990s version)
mircea_popescu: but by now, with half a million of them choking reddit and "social media"...
mircea_popescu: bounce yeah, it worked fine back when there was one of these idiots per university. at 1k unis and 400 seats it was still feasible.
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> the notion that anyone's getting signal out of the market ticking up or down is absurd. << you know the interestin thing about humans is, the talented musician/painter/we can transform the brownian motion of the atmosphere into signal.
bounce: should run for senate then, eh.
mircea_popescu: considering how much they spent implanting the nonsense in the skull, it ain't never coming out.
mircea_popescu: anyway, if it's anything like this dude, it'd basically lesswrong/meatballswiki/somethingawful hivemind. unemployable graduates with fixed if erroneous ideas "about the world"
mircea_popescu: i think i was there once, but it was tumbleweed city.
moriarty: ben_vulpes, noise is to those who are unable to understand the signal
ben_vulpes: ##econometrics has its moments, but it's mostly people arguing about noise in the signal
bounce: that isn't an answer to the question
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla .de, .fr, early version of gpg keys. hope they can't decode ? :D
bounce: moriarty: do you have a script messaging everybody in the channel about ##econometrics or something?
assbot: Twister (game) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
mircea_popescu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twister_(game) << there, retardopedia knows all about it.
mircea_popescu: or w/e that thing is called where teenagers try to touch colored spots in order to have an excuse to rub together
ben_vulpes: humans can't handle statistics. big disaster with 0% likelihood freezes the brain in its place.
mircea_popescu: but i'm rooting for twister being introduced by the tsa
mircea_popescu: it's beyond the inconceivable, for me.
mircea_popescu: it boggles the mind.
mircea_popescu: and "terrorism" is a fantastic driver of behaviour. i have all these reports about adults, ADULTS!!11 mind you, freezing in their tracks because the kindergarten caregiver has said so.
bounce: let's assemble a pop band out of $improbable_ethic roughnecks and float them on the stock market
bounce: well, yeah, "terrism" is keeping our rulers busy but realistically the risk is less than getting raped then murdered by $improbable_ethnic
moriarty: think of perception as inputs to the machine
mircea_popescu: and for the single woman with no contacts, the situation is fucking terrifing. so this guy asked you out. well ?
mircea_popescu: humans are meta machines, the PERCEPTION of the danger is the driver, not the actual danger.
bounce: the serial killer statistics are too marginal to really drive this though, so it'd have to be perception or something else. can't be the sole driver.
mircea_popescu: unless it wasn't worth the hassle because her friends did and meh
mircea_popescu: right. and speaking of the victorians, they most definitely didn't have the current highschool/college situation, where pretty much every girl has fucked pretty much every guy,
bounce: well, assuming so, that'd mean they're becoming more independent. less excuse to hide behind a strong man and so on.
mircea_popescu: well you have the excuse you're not an anthropologist, so not really your job to do that anyway.
mircea_popescu: at any rate, my argument here is that the very reason "we" are more open about it is because WOMEN are more open about it, and they are more open about it because their safety requires it and they finally figured it out
mircea_popescu: but they had no half'n'half, which from what i hear from other people's wives is the standard fare these days
mircea_popescu: i don't think what they did would meet my definition of fucking, dunno about yours
mircea_popescu: they marginally fucked.
bounce: right enough about the population growth. and the mores. at the same time we're also opener about having the sex; they still fucked around in victorian england, just everyone pretended it didn't happen in public
mircea_popescu: if you read sexus, half the stuff in there would be prosecuted today, it was all good fun and in the spirit of sportsmanship at the time.
mircea_popescu: even without accounting for the inflation of rape brought through redefinition.
mircea_popescu: if today the average woman fucks 12 men this decade, that's 1.8bn fucks. if you have 15k rapes that
mircea_popescu: if the pop was 100mn in 1944, and the average woman fucked 0.1 men a decade, that's 5mn fucks that decade. if you had 500 rapes that's 100 rpm
bounce: dunno. peak of incidence seems to've bean the 80s
mircea_popescu: recent prices you can query the bots or the jsons. historical gotta talk to someone who has been doing the querying.
wywialm: by the way, how one can obtain historical data of MPEx stocks, as well as the most recent prices?
mircea_popescu: but it's not going to prosper, either.
mircea_popescu: if it gives that up it simply becomes yet another protestantism.
mircea_popescu: wywialm the only notable innovation islam a sa christian sect brings is the hard (and somewhat antiquated) requirement for a certain split of the gender roles.
mircea_popescu: (in the narrow definition that she doesn't go with one, abducions aren't in our universe here)
mircea_popescu: bounce nope. of course not. however, the incidence per sex act is lower, for one, and the woman that cares to think can pretty well avoid them.
mircea_popescu: this simple fact : the only solution is a wot, and when most men have fucked most women the serial killers stand out like sore thumbs.
mircea_popescu: this is, incidentally, the true driving force behind the "impropriety" trend, that took skirts from the ankle to the hip and women from no partners to a dozen a decade.
mircea_popescu: to make it plainer, how does a single woman distinguish a suitor from a serial killer ? they both approach her.
mircea_popescu: in fact, making that difference is the absolute best form of charity
gabriel_laddel: the question is, is it useful to differentiate?
mircea_popescu: either that, or just kids are born malicious
bounce: didn't quite follow that, but one might surmise there's a fine line between stupidity and malice
mircea_popescu: "r3wt: alright, did you have coins on OpenEx maybe? r3wt: but anyone here who may have invested in openex or be owed some money, i got you. i got a real job now so i'm on the ascent again"
mircea_popescu: i mean, i didn't pick up anything whatsoever in the case of this xinxi guy. nor did i look into it in any depth. however, consider the case of the r3wt kid. now there, i did pick up roughly the same vibe i imagine you peeps are discussing. and yet, months later,
bounce: the low end scam is fairly obvious to spot with a little experience looking at the patters in -otc
mircea_popescu: all the rage a while ago.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, where have all the "are women more deceitful than men" studies gone ?
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol im not saying that persona jkudgement is invalid in any case. obviously all we have to go on is the judgement entered by individuals. but i think the general point is nevertheless interesting, how does one tell ?
RagnarDanneskjol: heh - no, the deceit is
mircea_popescu: not worth the trouble.
mircea_popescu: more interested in the general point tbh, i have no idea what this kid's story is, but in general derpy newcomers with a drive and deceitful scammers with a plan would look quite similar, at least during the first 1k lines or w/e, i think
RagnarDanneskjol: a much greater crime than run otf the mill scamming
RagnarDanneskjol: if you read his logs-and his innane discussions on the forum -its pretty clear.. I very rarely accuse anyone of actually being deceitful
thickasthieves: and to then "get hacked"
RagnarDanneskjol: dude is rather deceitful imo
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assbot: It's the economy, stupid , Scott Sumner | EconLog | Library of Economics and Liberty
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xinxi: RagnarDanneskjol - the sig was added before I came here and knew MPOE. I’ll definitely revise it.
mats_cd03: these hoes ain't loyal ♬
mircea_popescu: in other news today, mp loves pulling people's chains.
thickasthieves: whenever someone is defining something differently than you, just say semantics and they lose
thickasthieves: semantics is the new debate destroyer havent you heard
bounce: wasn't about what's news but what's newswriting. doesn't matter if it turns out to be prophetic later; prophecy isn't the function of the newsreporter.
pete_dushenski: i think the next whatsapp is on that list
assbot: Dyson's 20 Best Inventions of the Year
mircea_popescu: yesterday's log about what's news and what isn't will be so lulzy once ~that one~ qntra article ends up in the position of the stormcaller, greatest news piece ever published etc etc...
Apocalyptic: when you will see -25% on GOOG or AAPL that would be the day
pete_dushenski: and quite the oct/nov.
mircea_popescu: you know this is perhaps a good point... and trilema has a shitton of them
assbot: The Difference Between Weak Hands And Strong Hands | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
pete_dushenski: so pankkake is awol, no reply to my gpg-gram about vps nodes, then… this: http://www.contravex.com/2014/10/16/the-difference-between-weak-hands-and-strong-hands/#comment-3386
pete_dushenski: "in the entire first world!"
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski nothing like that can happen. aren't you aware the dow is the penis of the biggest greatest richest most important country IN THE COUNTRY !?>!?!
wywialm: thanks for the info
mircea_popescu: wywialm well the deedbot is atm dead, but being reimplemented
kakobrekla: someone should put that in the wiki
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla srsly, you don't see the big T ?
Apocalyptic: they search for /phpmyadmin on mines
kakobrekla: so much of traffic these days is BS bots
mircea_popescu: i guess not so low traffic in the end.
bounce: ``I would argue immediately that voting should be mandatory and it should be online. Of course, we can cover for all the fraud and I don\u2019t think it makes the procedure any less robust, in fact quite the opposite.'' -- http://www.theregister.co.uk/Print/2014/10/15/martha_lanefox_yeuch_the_internet_is_made_by_men/
mircea_popescu: btw, cazalla bingoboingo and everyone else in the same situation : if the blob gpg spits out when you sign contains a SHA1 you are using the older, and perhaps not all that secure digest algo. you should move on to sha512 either with --digest-algo SHA512 or else edit gpg.conf to insert personal-digest-preferences SHA512 SHA384 SHA256
mircea_popescu: so qntra was back for a coupla hours there, but down again now lol.
gabriel_laddel: mats_cd03: RagnarDanneskjol: oh, the fuzzy border between fraud and incompetence.
RagnarDanneskjol: ript kiddie. - other than """"I have been trading FX for more than seven years and I made enough money for me to live for the following 5 years even if I don't work at all. So It makes little sense for me to run away with your money """
RagnarDanneskjol: just trying to keep things real here - you asked for feedback. your sig on the forum claims your site is the FIRST options exchange - you clearly demonstrated that you were aware of the options emporium prior to now. you also have no experience running a business (or even having a real job) and failed to demonstrate any reason why you are better suited to run this than a 15 year old sc
mats_cd03: it is a red flag for everyone in this chan if the biggest player in the game is unwilling to MM his own options, xinxi
bounce: it's better than to not use it, but it is easily done wrong and then there's the whole problem of the PKI industry
bounce: https is the "best current practice" any time people end up having to feed "personal details" and such into forms. username/password for starters.
xinxi: They are different.
assbot: Logged on 14-10-2014 06:20:05; mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/1056/bitcoin-to-drop-under-200-before-december/ << there, that's a binary option
mats_cd03: so there is no practical reason to use it?
xinxi: people who are not familiar with these technologies may think this is safe.
RagnarDanneskjol: it provides the illusion of security - that warm fuzzy feeling
xinxi: so you can see the orderbook without login now.
assbot: Is it just a coincidence that Brock Pierce is part of the founding team for KnCMiner and Robocoin? : Bitcoin
RagnarDanneskjol: i told him to look into digi ocean - they have built-in 'guaranteed anti DOS and are about as reliable as anything I have found - its what many of the large pools run on
fluffypony: cazalla, why don't you just stick CloudFlare in front of it until you guys have the infrastructure sorted?
bounce: the world just isn't cool enough. sorry.
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
cazalla: " Unfortunately, our system has been unable to verify some aspects of the identity information that you provided. At your convenience, please submit a scanned copy of a government issued photo ID, such as a passport or drivers license."
cazalla: nothing, few deposits, btc withdrawls, no $$$ or bitcoin in there thankfully
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thickasthieves: they got like the triple whammy, down market, bad earnings, and hbo announced theyre going solo
thickasthieves: just looking at these premarkets
BigBitz: I hope he gets nailed to the wall this time.
fluffypony: I hope those Dogecoiners learnt their lesson
RagnarDanneskjol: from the ecdsa exploit guy mentioned om qntra: http://conference.hitb.org/hitbsecconf2014kul/materials/D1T1%20-%20Filippo%20Valsorda%20-%20Exploiting%20ECDSA%20Failures%20in%20the%20Bitcoin%20Blockchain.pdf
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.contravex.com/2014/10/16/the-difference-between-weak-hands-and-strong-hands/
BingoBoingo: qntra is the latest coindesk killer
assbot: Logged on 03-03-2014 22:19:37; mircea_popescu: matheny needs to be out of a job.
BingoBoingo: !s Matheney
BingoBoingo: And on top of it all Matheney is anti-porn
BingoBoingo: then
BingoBoingo: And then no I-70 series
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BingoBoingo: I dunno how many people follow baseball, but in the last hour tonight has become a bad time to make me unhappy.
BingoBoingo: r3 was closer over the range
BingoBoingo: So Imma blow in the meter. People got guesses on my BAC???
BingoBoingo: Solving the worng problem
r3wt: i know, i was trying to "buy trust" according to Vod and the fag alliance
BingoBoingo: !up devthedev
BingoBoingo: r3wt devthedev play nice or niggers.txt
r3wt: devthedev
r3wt: devthedev: fag
BingoBoingo: And neither Dallas nurse is white...
BingoBoingo: !up devthedev
gribble: Bitstamp | There are currently 177.53316 bitcoins offered at or under 400.0 USD, worth 70780.2051744 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0352 seconds
r3wt: when bitmit was online, i used to stalk Gar255's auctions and bid them to 50k+
BingoBoingo: r3wt: Who has the most negative forum trust you see
artifexd: Remember that, sometimes, a negative rating can be a good thing. Depending on the rater.
r3wt: now i have the pretty red paint on my forum profile again
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BingoBoingo: r3wt: Ratings are near the opposite of a tit for tat if done right
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r3wt: nice, thanks for the lesson
artifexd: There ya go
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r3wt: oh ok. well i'm trying to hunt down all my loose ends and make sure they've been tied off
artifexd: At one time, yeah. I pulled them all off though.
artifexd: I have slept since then.
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r3wt: but anyone here who may have invested in openex or be owed some money, i got you. i got a real job now so i'm on the ascent again
r3wt: i had saw that someone had pinged looking for me in june on the otc site
BingoBoingo: Getting a DOS out the ass because Mullenwang of Wordpress can't stop sucking that dick
r3wt: bout to do the 3 S's before bed
cazalla: speaking of twitter BingoBoingo, sgornick is yet to return to hand it over :\ i had the opportunity to register it myself but didn't bother
xinxi: is there any emacs bios rom?
ben_vulpes: xinxi: extremely robust connection switchting, ideal for the laptop user.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: How strong of authenticaton is a bouncer typically going to demand?
mats_cd03: i pay the devil to keep me online in this channel
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Bouncers are of the devil
xinxi: or I need to do these every time I come here.
xinxi: I am wondering is there any automatic way to do so
xinxi: yes, I known. auth verify, and then up
mircea_popescu: sorry for all the ups and downs.
BingoBoingo: !up devthedev
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: clean. then, 'silicone' or 'teflon' << As the online machine sounds like a bee sanctuary now a Mosin solution sounds more tempting than tender love.
kakobrekla: wont fix the fucked up bearing though
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: clean. then, 'silicone' or 'teflon'
kakobrekla: i clean it . just vacuum from the top
BingoBoingo: <kakobrekla> i thought you can get to the bearing, on some of these small fans you can . << Hard which is why I lean towards flooding it
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> not the molded laptop gizmos, usually << Pry and Pry again
asciilifeform: not the molded laptop gizmos, usually
asciilifeform: remove the fan, outside (e.g., on balcony) blow it with freon
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> these things generally aren't built in a way where you can get to the bearing <asciilifeform> so, can't lubricate << This is why you flood the thing
kakobrekla: until the new fan comes
asciilifeform: just get the crud out
asciilifeform: from one pauper to another, listen to advice...
asciilifeform: first, 'freon', then - EtOH swabs
asciilifeform remembers when these had ordinary square fans
BingoBoingo: This is the second fan in 3 years though. fan is a weak point