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kakobrekla: asciilifeform nothing, maybe someone else i taking the bill.
ben_vulpes: "hey you live in new york? cool! do you know this other random guy i met one time?"
mats_cd03: in other news, windows internals 7th edition is available for preorder
fivezerotwo: well, something very similar happened to one. their "IDS" ended up dropping everyone that signed in.
ben_vulpes: i asked nicely for a staging environment so that we could keep working when they do this in the future
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: what did you pay this fine fellow for the heat test?
ben_vulpes: client recently pushed a change to their frontend app that changed the rate at which the js called the backend
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes gotta keep the logs user-friendly.
asciilifeform: usg employs enormous numbers of these wretches. usually through subcontractors.
asciilifeform: fivezerotwo: brute force << yes, it is. i've met folks who have toiled in the fuzz farms.
asciilifeform: spreading is in most cases a minus there. a human being might turn it up and publish reversing, sooner than author would like.
asciilifeform: fivezerotwo: other thing is, the gov-sponsored crapware doesn't really need to spread. installed by a bribed/threatened/turned man inside the enemy target. so no need to 'keep a slender figure.'
mircea_popescu: there we go
asciilifeform: no one suggested, so i will - the mutilated words are convincing precisely because mutilated. target is - clinical imbeciles.
mircea_popescu: fivezerotwo that's in the logs.
fivezerotwo: it's like all the bad phishing emails with bad spelings and incorrect grammer. two reasons
bounce: such appreciation of the fine arts in here today
asciilifeform: fivezerotwo: though these folks aren't necessarily clinically stupid, any more than microshit employees are. just managed by the 'differently abled' with particular objectives that don't include elegance.
chetty: <asciilifeform> whether or not nero actually fiddled while rome burned - here we have an entire symphonic orchestra.//+++++
mircea_popescu: gotta invest in the future!
mircea_popescu: fivezerotwo but dude! the bandwidths keep expanding 50% a year! by 2024 it'll be fine!
fivezerotwo: meanwhile the dumbest ones get hired at intelligence agencies developing state sponsored malware
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform some parts of the us are shitty like that.
mircea_popescu: the clever ones find better lines of work than ddosing noobs.
ben_vulpes: i think the thing is pretty ambivalent to input media
fivezerotwo: asciilifeform, there's also a bit of brain drain with the more clever ones choosing to work with a vendor instead
ben_vulpes: gotta dig the clay out and make the bricks
asciilifeform: fivezerotwo: why not take the time to grow your 5k into 500k with an improved virulent payload?
mircea_popescu: i mean, you make bricks out of clay rather than cernosiom for a reason
ben_vulpes: guy's built and published the plans for a compressed-earth brick maker
mircea_popescu: but i've also set places on fire, and the repairs consist of repainting the walls.
asciilifeform: theremite is cheap.
mircea_popescu: noty. im sure you can make sand fucking burn, at the cost of ten thousand bezzlars a gram of burnt sand
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mircea_popescu: not in the way batch file wrapped putty is.
asciilifeform: fivezerotwo: or did you mean to say that they don't become popular in the sense of being imitated ?
mircea_popescu: <fivezerotwo> the ones that are decent don't get popular << no, im sure he has it. they're "not user friendly"
fivezerotwo: the ones that are decent don't get popular
asciilifeform: whether or not nero actually fiddled while rome burned - here we have an entire symphonic orchestra.
asciilifeform: that'd be interesting. if someone, pulls, like rabbit out of hat, a 'cure' that resembles the aids one
asciilifeform: well, he did appoint a lawyer/lobbyist to head the new dept. of obola.
mircea_popescu: what is this, carlin the president ?
asciilifeform: well, the cowardice of the praetorian guard, who presumably think they'll all be assigned choice bunks in the mountain bunkers.
ben_vulpes: the secret fuhrer again?
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mircea_popescu: i could see if it was still a colonial empire, "britain can not be cut itself from the diamond in its crown"
mircea_popescu: "With this tailwind working for us, Charlie and I hope to build Berkshire’s per-share intrinsic value by constantly improving the basic earning power of our many subsidiaries" truly.
mircea_popescu: dude seriously ?! the land of the free, of the brave ? the incredible productive assets and unlimited human ingenuity existing in America?
mircea_popescu: ahahaha what the fuck, THIS is executive order matter now ?!
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mircea_popescu: Adlai which dovetails neatly in the hitler, kennedy and herr braun discussion yest.
Adlai: instead they were just all "hurr durr let's read about ourselves because we're most important"
Adlai: they could've done things so much more interesting while they were in there
mircea_popescu: ;;google scientology infiltrated the usg stole fbi irs and other secret paperwork
mircea_popescu: they hacked the growthboxen
mircea_popescu: "Applying Growth Hacking to a Book (and to getting ahead) October 14, 2014 — 4 Comments I just put up a 5,000 word breakdown of the campaign for Growth Hacker Marketing for the New York Observer. " << dude these people...
ben_vulpes: what's the background on "scientologists raped the usg in the 70s" claim?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> undata: a smart cult with an anti-govt streak would try to remain unnoticed <<< which fails to explain why the us govt is not taking better care of staying out of our way. << "smart"
mircea_popescu: in their doomed but hopeless quest to make it feel ok ?
mircea_popescu: how about not giving a shit about spurious and extraneous categories idiots use to classify the world
bounce: then again, not everyone relishes in drama.
ben_vulpes: being mean is the point of life.
mircea_popescu: this is fucking rare anyway, i'd weep for the loss.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, how did the "Dead babies" trope get to be such a big deal ?
ben_vulpes: not the hassling, the suiciding
mircea_popescu: hey, someone got the patience to hussle 15yos, more power to em.
ben_vulpes: you could have them making human pyramids instead
mircea_popescu: fivezerotwo kinda lulzy, that. all the "anyonymous" derpage is getting on my nerves.
nubbins`: somebody said there would be free coats?
fivezerotwo: mircea_popescu, more like "here's everything this guy does and have done, oh here's their gmail password"
ben_vulpes: http://m.gpo.gov/plumbook/ << this is a pretty good example of how the ussa builds software.
mats_cd03: 11:21:02 <+fivezerotwo> ;; later tell devthedev you suck. 26 Fernon Lane Palm Coast FL 32137 << trying hard to impress #b-a
fivezerotwo: hah. well, talking about dox more broadly. like mapping the target from all areas.
bounce: well, if going north goes black, you know who's been playing with the letters, eh
ben_vulpes: nubbins`: that's the one.
ben_vulpes: there was a vaporware around this, right?
nubbins`: press x/y/z to swap it for the appropriate axis
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 can you at least sign with them ?
mats_cd03: i left my coins in my other pants
mircea_popescu: wait guise. the price is backed by lulz and drama right ? BUT THIS MEANS...
mircea_popescu: let us centralize all the things!11
fivezerotwo: lol. you guys aren't going to pay someone to stop ddosing, so i'm not going to bother
kakobrekla: whats next, give 100% of the ddos back if i ddos you with 25% ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
fivezerotwo: ;; later tell devthedev you suck. 26 Fernon Lane Palm Coast FL 32137
mircea_popescu: lol and so the myth of the gentleman ddoser was born
ben_vulpes: is the variety speak not an adequate filter anymore?
ben_vulpes: how can one tell how long a party'd been reading the logs?
mircea_popescu: i guess im updating the "six months" thing.
mircea_popescu: fivezerotwo how long have you been reading the logs anyway ?
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 this one admits it, there's plenty otherwise.
mats_cd03: n an active script kiddy in the wot
gribble: The operation succeeded.
fivezerotwo: ;;later tell devthedev your server sucks, and you're bad at writing. and why are you trying to proxy apache with nginx or something?!
fivezerotwo: cryptodeck is still trying to recover from the attack that ended 5 minutes ago https://cryptodeck.com/
nubbins`: mircea_popescu i'd liken it to reading the logs, but less pithy
mircea_popescu: nubbins` so basically like here, except without all the advantages ?
mircea_popescu: 9: bank.kensavage.com << holy shit, the stuff that's in my logs!!1
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nubbins`: it's not updated as frequently, but they disallow memes and price discussion
ThickAsThieves: oh he's after them too tho
nubbins`: or, y'know, from the bloggers that feed qntra ;p
nubbins`: i mean, in the long run, i don't think any of us give any particular fucks about the whole situation aside from the spectacle
ThickAsThieves: how much btc to get you to tell us what the problem is?
nubbins`: there's only so much news a man can read in the run of a day
fivezerotwo: nubbins`, maybe ;; mircea_popescu i think you'll find someone who can borrow 1k btc in the span of a hour to be similar
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller what did she do last summer ?
nubbins`: the continuous lels we all share together?
mircea_popescu: not that hard to borrow a little these days. as part of all that "bitcoin wil never function as a world currency" etc.
ThickAsThieves: and he is the offended party
fivezerotwo: remain assured that after i've maxed out the limits of this tiny $10 vps, i'll be actually attacking qntra.net / trilema.com / et al, for realz.
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user devthedev: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=devthedev | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=devthedev | Rated since: Tue Jul 15 12:31:42 2014
thestringpuller: ;;gettrust devthedev
mircea_popescu: cazalla did the dev kid ever send you a submission ?
fivezerotwo: mircea_popescu, these attacks are sorta "what can you do with $10" experiment
mircea_popescu: <thestringpuller> is devthedev trying to make his own qntra? << no idea ?
ThickAsThieves: yeah i'm just interested in some of the market aspects
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i can explain to you how to make "his kind of service" in about ten minutes. provited you've not read the logs to put it together yourself.
thestringpuller: how much are they paying you?
bounce: so they can care less. hm. and you can't? oh dear.
thestringpuller: "My team's goal is to provide the utmost quality publications and commentary regarding CryptoCurrencies. We came up with the idea to launch CryptoDeck because many other news sources focus solely on the generation of ad revenue and could care less what they're advertising, ultimately leading to low quality news."
fivezerotwo: thestringpuller, not like he's going to get anything with coinbr fees
thestringpuller: is devthedev trying to make his own qntra?
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mircea_popescu: kakobrekla what's the score yet ?
nubbins`: it's almost like the guy doesn't wanna dick around configuring a server :D
mircea_popescu: nubbins` isn't that the entire premise of the "secret report" biz ?
mircea_popescu: it says "guide for citizens of the opposite sex", but it's not. it's universal.
mircea_popescu: get the man a server.
ThickAsThieves: nor confidence to provide them
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves theory aside, you gonna halp RagnarDanneskjol host the atc proxy by getting him a server ?
chetty: I can see trilema from one system but not the other, same ip
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the entire world is whitelist only, in each and every aspect. there's no getting around this simple fact,
mircea_popescu: bounce ima prolly revise the list, make it moar permissive.
ThickAsThieves: sure, i wa smore asking in the grand scheme
mircea_popescu: myeah. well you can either pm your ip to whitelist or else get a diff one ?
mircea_popescu: time to get in the chan.
mircea_popescu: well, let's put it this way, if someone was making a shitton of requests right then but isn't in chan there's something seriously off with them.
ThickAsThieves: they have to wait for storm to finish?
mircea_popescu: and anyone know the ip of that isitdown service ?
mircea_popescu: well, at a certain age it's just the usual stuff. access to resources, respect of peers, etc.
Adlai: the worst are the wanna-wannas, who don't even know what they wanna-be
mircea_popescu: what, he flipped burgers for the summer to save enough money to put a 10 bux downpayment on a derpy 5k botnet ?
mircea_popescu: the wringing and derpage is unavoidable, but they'll get in line alright.
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mircea_popescu: i think it's definitely succeeding at making it clear to the wanna-bes that they're wanna-bes, and that we're the stars, and what cocks to suck
PeterL: do you think the voicing model is succeeding at keeping cruft out?
PeterL: you want them to not come around, or just not be able to get in when they get here?
mircea_popescu: next we'll have a patent troll right ? that's the one thing missing.
mircea_popescu: i guess, let's see, what else is there...
mircea_popescu: there's also a camwhore from india that comes by periodically, but at least she has tits
mircea_popescu: i think the updown thing managed to get itself ip banned
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RagnarDanneskjol: what is this? -i missed the convo. looks scifi skimming it
PeterL: it also made hard linebreaks out of all the line endings, is there an easy way to re-paragraphize a text file?
PeterL: enemy fiat on his back while we beat the bejazus out of him.
PeterL: funny mistake by the pdf converter, l to an i: We've got to seize the initiative and get the
chetty: <ThickAsThieves> who did mp piss off in the days prior to qntra launch?//more like who didnt he piss off
RagnarDanneskjol: yea - why I'm not posting the address again
ThickAsThieves: i guess we shouldnt be giving him any ideas, though the attack does seem mp-centric
RagnarDanneskjol: OH - I control that pool - heh. kind of forgot to check it, maybe on the target list too
ThickAsThieves: 42 blocks, then hacker points botnet at pool and diff stays same, hehe
RagnarDanneskjol: redtards mostly i sppose. this is what happens when they impose minimum wage - too much idle time
ThickAsThieves: the yc ninjas?
ThickAsThieves: who did mp piss off in the days prior to qntra launch?
ThickAsThieves: while it may be cheap for this guy to do, it's gotta be consuming of other resources
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jurov: how is the chick related?
punkman: so what does the random guy caught in crossfire do
punkman: well the blogs are gonna be easy pickings
RagnarDanneskjol: who else is on y'alls shit list these days?
ProgressUpdate: so, current target is thedrinkingrecord.com ;; don't worry, no matter how you try to mitigate we'll take you down eventually.
RagnarDanneskjol: cool. well carry on then, have fun
RagnarDanneskjol: are there any terms for surrender. ransom demands
ProgressUpdate: closing notes: mireca_popescu: mocking someone who attacks you for less than 1/20th your mitigation efforts cost is not the smartest decision. cazalla i'll think about it
cazalla: ProgressUpdate, i tell you what, you write up an article about the past few days and i'll publish it on qntra, that way people at least know what is going on
cazalla: someone here fuck your mother/sister or something?
ProgressUpdate: RagnarDanneskjol, quite ironically slowloris was one of the most effective HTTP DDoS attacks circa 2009.
RagnarDanneskjol: yea - really curious. why these targets? these guy sare good people, never did a thing to hurt anyone.. its like attacking puppies or slow lorises. they come in peace
ProgressUpdate: it's not even difficult to knock down *all* of the mpex proxies (at least the ones that have been publicly announced), but barely nobody except mireca_popescu's own bots use mpex anyway.
ProgressUpdate: or BingoBoingo's thedrinkingrecord, or cascadianhacker, contravex;; bitbet, waroflife, et al.
cazalla: i mean, i applaud your effort for the lulz but we're past that so what's your beef chief
cazalla: what's the point though? i don't see what you stand to gain
ProgressUpdate: for now, it's not very smart for me to "GET MOAR BOTZ" against a specific, protected server, but there are many other targets. like the digitalocean vps hosting log.bitcoin-assets
cazalla: why are you attacking the site anyway?
RagnarDanneskjol: whats the payoff?
ProgressUpdate: you might like to know the wp attacks are launched from a VPS costing me no more than $10 monthly; such attacks are unable to fully take your server offline, but that doesn't mean we will stop trying ^.^
ProgressUpdate: hey, reddit police here. gj with the new server for trilema / qntra
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mircea_popescu: it's not even "cash" properly that the enemy keeps taking out. it's straight value.
mircea_popescu: its fate is quite clear, thermodynamically.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform all i can see from where im sitting is a closed system that constantly loses mass to the outside.
asciilifeform: orcs pilfering the wealth of men is a thermodynamic inevitability - like waterfalls. but there's a clever bugger drinking the waterfall, to run with the metaphor.
mircea_popescu: 's besides the point
asciilifeform: then go 'prove you're not a camel'
asciilifeform: this is permitted to exist in precisely this form - for a reason. this is bezzlatron's way of making folks who don't want $consumercrud - buy it whether want or not.
mircea_popescu: fact remains, cc nonsense mostly bleeds cash out of the nato structure.
mircea_popescu: well, exactly how the loss is distributed inside the system is a diff story.
asciilifeform: mr t called this 'skin in the game lemma' or sumthinglikethat
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they decided to "stop criminality" << not exactly. one set of criminals profits from every single penny of cc theft (bank) while another set (the sp4mz0r) gets to be made example of.
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decimation: well I'm going to retire for the evening, thanks for the interesting conversation
decimation: so they swap places basically?
Maryjane: They'll draw s new queen
Maryjane: From ur other colonies
decimation: if the colony swarms?
decimation: Maryjane: what are the main expenses? seems to me you just need to harvest the honey every once in awhile
xanthyos: and watching them interact with a stranger colony
Maryjane: Especially down the Champlain valley
Maryjane: Most hobbyists I know here cannot keep up with keeping the bees tho
decimation: the bees are worth their wage when they pollinate more efficiently than the alternatives
decimation: mircea_popescu: I suspect that any farmer who actually plans on living on his own harvest is much the same
Maryjane: So buy them lol
decimation: yeah but almonds are delicious, I'm glad for the bees.
Maryjane: Almond Honey tastes like leather shoes
decimation: Maryjane: in California for the almonds?
mircea_popescu: in the countryside i mean.
cazalla: i could host the hive elsewhere but defeats the added benefit of having the bees in the backyard to help pollinate veg and fruit trees
decimation: cazalla: the People continue to wage war on anything unusual
cazalla: mircea_popescu, you need to register for a licence, another keep has to come check out your hive, hive cannot be within x distance of other homes plus others
Maryjane: There's varying reason
Maryjane: Any man made pesticide will weaken their immune system but plant based is ok
decimation: eh, I think that theory is crazy. much more likely is widespread pesticide us
Maryjane: The queen starts laying drones
Maryjane: The comb. Unf.
decimation: the russian sage in front of my home was filled with bees this summer, they are gone now
Maryjane: They aren't too bothered by varroa
Maryjane: Their immune system is stronger against varroa than carnolians
decimation: do the russian bees seem more resistant to the mites? It appears the gov't thinks that's the case.
Maryjane: Carnolians are great they originated in like the southern Austrian alps and Danube valley
Maryjane: Their propolis production
Maryjane: They made a new queen and she calmed the whole colony
Maryjane: They have since before our years
Maryjane: They'll adapt by themselves
decimation: interesting. apparently the bees are are aware of the 'one drop' rule
Maryjane: Yes. They could. But that could go either good or bad
xanthyos: and make the perfect broodwich
decimation: I suspect the best 'solution' is to interbreed the africanized bees with other species and select against aggressive broods.
Maryjane: Italians and carni's are what we raise here usually, but bees even African iced are highly adapted creatures. The African iced ones are forced into a place they don't thrive. It's like how the Russian bees don't do well here either
decimation: seems to me that the main danger is letting neglected properties become fully infested
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