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kakobrekla: i see our little cant count for shit friend dropped 850mbps of bs on the lawgs
kakobrekla: arent you all tor sex pets there
gribble: The operation succeeded.
kakobrekla: at which point is the request routed to show 'seizure image' instead of the intended destination?
assbot: Minor update: The main onion and my totally non-illegal personal onion have both been serving up the seizure image as of a couple hours ago
assbot: Minor update: The main onion and my totally non-illegal personal onion have both been serving up the seizure image as of a couple hours ago
mircea_popescu: dawg, just make those cardanos so we can sell em and that's it, let some other unfortunate soul extract himself with bountee.
asciilifeform: s/sleep/other console
mircea_popescu: jurov lol it just means a metal rod you roast on. it's the roasting spit.
mod6: But I'll be rejecting these outright unless they directly impact, positivly, the development of the reference implementation.
kakobrekla: or in the pit
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spit+roast | Verb: to spit roast. A sexual activity involving 3 people, two active males and one passive (male or female). Man 1 pentrates person 2 from the rear (anal or ...
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla the horse could fall in love with the king...
kakobrekla: the king will die, the horse will die.
mod6: jurov: None so far that I know of, other than perhaps a bounty or something for testers as suggested by ben_vulpes.
kakobrekla: that the only certain thing.
asciilifeform: the king could die, the horse could die.
mircea_popescu: well by then you'll be too old to work anyway, so.
mod6: jurov: My vote is that you simply hold the Foundation's BTC.
BingoBoingo: If BTC goes down too much there's still African Somalia
asciilifeform rather curious what kakobrekla meant by 'real job'
mircea_popescu: what's in the barrle ?
kakobrekla already got the barrel ready
kakobrekla: .just kinda wondering how much further down it's gonna go xD < not enough for kako to get a real job
mircea_popescu: "The NutFund was a charity set up by Blake Benthall as part of his project on the StartUp Bus and using his own BTC, he donated to his own charity. The NutFund.co website has since been abandoned" <<< heh.
Azelphur: I'm still sitting on my BTC...just kinda wondering how much further down it's gonna go xD
mircea_popescu: the more you sit on btc the greater the pleasure gets.
jurov: btw, anyone can submit any other proposal. not like it's destined for me to sit on it forever
jurov: mod5, ben_vulpes: i hereby submit a proposal for the foundation's fund to be used for x.idiff marketmaking
saifedean: but there's tables and crap... but i guess you don't really need to visualize brazilian ethanol production
mircea_popescu: <saifedean> i dug up the old phd and can email it to any of you who are interested. not sure it's worth publishing as it's still too academese to interest normals << let me gues, it;s pdf ?
BingoBoingo: <saifedean> so what do you gentlement do around here? what time are the virgin sacrifices? << Those happen on Reddit
BingoBoingo: So the big stories from NBC Nightly news tonight: Berlin wall fell, Seinfeld and a bunch of 90's commedians are coming out as aspies
saifedean: lol, touche... i had meant normals in the sense of non-academics... though to be fair, this didn't interest the academics either :)
saifedean: i dug up the old phd and can email it to any of you who are interested. not sure it's worth publishing as it's still too academese to interest normals
hanbot: saifedean, small world, among others, is pretty much the story of this problem
asciilifeform: (british, but applicable to all the nato colonies)
hanbot: the bezzle academiponzi.
saifedean: but of course the vast majority of people who play this circle jerk end up sucking and not getting sucked, somewhere along the line, funding dries up, a department closes down, a professor dies and you're left unemployable and with nothing useful to contribute to anyone
saifedean: science on a public budget is a self-referential circle jerk: get with the system and suck the cock above you and you might be lucky to get your cock sucked below sometime soon... you'll spend your life sucking and getting sucked and soon won't even remember your cute teenage aspirations of doing something useful
kakobrekla: yes those two are so cute together
assbot: Logged on 01-04-2014 02:12:07; asciilifeform: 'The basic problem is that the robber-barons of Silicon Valley, unlike their Victorian forebears, do not realize that, if they want all this science, they will actually have to pay for it - themselves. Instead, they look at their tax forms and think: I gave at the office. But they didn't. They gave to scientocracy. Now, they need to figure out how to patronize science - or there will be no science. Ju
saifedean: it's the DMV-fication of science...
saifedean: the only way to get into a phd program, get a grant, get a job, get into a journal is if you buy into the premises... once you bought into the premises, the 'scientific method' will bring out the right result.. if you try to rock the boat, you're simply wasting the time of people who have research grant deadlines to meet and so can't be bothered to sit and actually think of anything
mircea_popescu: saifedean so basically, would you say the usg is using grant money to coerce lies being published as "science" and to force people who won't do it leave academia ?
bounce: also, I'ma leave that tyop right there.
saifedean: well taleb was the reason i went heretical, or the gateway drug at least, i met him and became friend and then went heretic... he liked the heretic version and was happy to be on my committee as the external examiner... but the columbia folks didn't like it so i had to rewrite it and do my Hail USG's, and he still sat onmy committee for that one and helped me defend it from their fangs
cazalla: working on an article atm, this sr2.0 kid is either really dumb or stole the coins himself when sr2 was hacked twice
asciilifeform secretly hopes for taleb-minus-the-jackassery
pete_dushenski: and how did you turn that heretic paper into a friendship with the guy?
mircea_popescu: saifedean so what happened to the original ?
saifedean: i had already got my job but needed the degree, so after i started the job, i had to basically write a whole new phd, get a new advisor and make it ivy-league-approved... the result is the derpage you saw above. read at your own risk
mircea_popescu: independent of them.
mircea_popescu: bounce the femiwhales "warning" normal, healthy women about [their delusional notions of] "rape" aren't doing it because "they fear healthy women might be hurt". what they fear is that healthy women may live an independent life.
thestringpuller: bounce: they taught us single variable calculus in high school
bounce: math is hard on children. because kiddie-huggers feared it might be so they came up with kiddie math and now the real math is too hard
saifedean: there's a long ass story about how this came about which i may tell to you some day near a fire... i basically started reading taleb in my third year and went off the good Ivy rails... by the end of my fifth i had written an absolutely heretic phd and submit it, and when my adviser finally got round to reading it, the day before the defense, she decided it wasn't acceptable and wasn't going to let me defend it
saifedean: there are more intellectually stimulating cat pics on the net
saifedean: but there's math.. it's rigorous and shit... don't you people value science? don't you care about the children? why does nobody think of the children :/
mircea_popescu: should be interesting to meet the columbia webmaster someday.
Adlai: saifedean: there's a fart joke in there somewhere but i fear sharting if i push too hard
mircea_popescu: please tell the man to stop by!
mircea_popescu: ha. well... maybe in time then
saifedean: the arabic bitcoin space is basically me and 5 other friends. I met one of them for a tea yesterday and that might be the top news of the month
mircea_popescu: Adlai he's the other guy in that convo.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
saifedean: about a year ago i was interviewed on arab news satellite tv on bitcoin, probably the first interview in arabic on the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWTyo0sJNCk
kakobrekla: arent you in the autoturdposter list?
saifedean: kakobrekla well, in my day job i teach textbook macro and micro economics to undergrads... pays the bills and passes the time while i live in gorgeous lebanon, and also allows me to innoculate them against the textbook garbage
chetty: oo a bonfire? what are we burning? someone at the stake I hope
kakobrekla has the matches
mats_cd03: who has the fuel? lets do this thing.
kakobrekla: saifedean what we do si in the logs, what you do is i dunno, tell us
saifedean: so what do you gentlement do around here? what time are the virgin sacrifices?
thestringpuller: based on the statements first submission are considered for future work. but if the first submission is accepted is there a gpg transfer of IP? (and for a bill/price)?
mircea_popescu: bounce well, the enemy is working the workings to prevent it.
bounce: so did the debian bunch decide to flop or are they staying flipped on the poettering fanclub vote?
kakobrekla: id rather go with debian over ubuntu
assbot: The best thinkpiece about millennials and potatoes -- Fusion
mircea_popescu: don't get the recent versions, they're braindamaged.
mircea_popescu: well, these days prolly gentoo. just get their stock install, whatever that may be
thestringpuller: reminds me of Huxley's Brave New World where the kids are allowed to touch each other "exploratively" as they grow up in the nurseries
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller well if you're young/clueless enough it seems kinda pointless.
mircea_popescu: <saifedean> this is the point when i must confront the brotherhood with my inadequacies... I still use windows and have no fucking clue what this GPG business is. << seriously, but an old laptop, put linux on it. it's like that time when you kissed a girl tho it seemed kinda stupid.
Azelphur: thestringpuller: indeed
bounce: that is, for someone used to the CLI and the general crypto geekery weirdness that gnupg is made of
bounce: works about as well as anywhere else (which is, not that well), even comes with fancy front-ends to ease the pain a bit
saifedean: @pete_dushenski it can be fun, though after five years at columbia, it can take on the feel of trying to talk tapeworms out of your stomach
pete_dushenski: well the jury's still out on just how bad gpg on winblows is
pete_dushenski: saifedean there's nothing like going off on people who swallowed public education whole eh?
saifedean: this is the point when i must confront the brotherhood with my inadequacies... I still use windows and have no fucking clue what this GPG business is.
pete_dushenski: i already sent saifedean the contravex article on the wot, so tis only a matter of time
saifedean: @pete_dushenski i avoid keynesian retards like the plague, but if i do confront one, the ranting is uncontrollable and cathartic
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
bounce: thou shalt have potatoes and thou shalt like them, too
bounce: what's this, the stone age?
pete_dushenski: saifedean you *did* have some pretty solid rants in the comments. i was pleasantly surprised myself.
thestringpuller: i also think they patented it
thestringpuller: klingon's have a monopoly on the cloaking process
mircea_popescu: hey there, smart commenter of pete's blog.
Adlai: < invisible hand of the market cloak
pete_dushenski: i'd say they're sorta on par
teward: they look through their logs ;)
teward: rather than PM staff
teward: pete_dushenski: better to just ask in the channel for a cloak
pete_dushenski: iirc you just head over to #freenode and find an admin, pm them, and badabingbadaboom
assbot: Hey /saifedean: have you thought about dropping by bitcoin-assets some time? http://t.co/bsMbRCfy9J It's all the rage!
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: dub i dunno, what am i, the micromanaging tyrant of a cult ? << now why would anyone think that?
thestringpuller: wow this is the lowest it's been in years
assbot: You had the last Philistine. This one's mine.
mats_cd03: ever tried a 'ranger chew'? step 1. obtain MRE 2. remove condiment package with instant coffee and napkin 3. tear napkin 2in from corner and pour grounds on top of the torn piece 4. ball up napkin and stick it between gum and lip
mircea_popescu: ba is not doing bad for coffee either.
jurov: i'm spoiled. there's strong lavazza espresso available at practically every shack around here
mircea_popescu: i guess it's like selling oversalted food in bars - gives people incentive to cream the shit out of it.
asciilifeform: they manage to make freshly-baked espresso taste just the same.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, the taste is exactly us army campaign coffee. overburned to all hell for being kept heated 12 hours.
mircea_popescu: til there's a gay interest news site.
jurov: the pastor supplies it, thus he knows. 100% organic stuff from free-range boys
asciilifeform: behind the counter.
asciilifeform: so -that- explains the taste.
jurov: “My suspicion is that they’re getting their semen from sodomites. Semen flavours up the coffee, and makes you thinks you’re having a good time.”
assbot: NYC pastor: Starbucks is flavoured with the semen of sodomites · PinkNews.co.uk
mircea_popescu: jesus these chicks can't sing
ben_vulpes: just stick to the rivers and the lakes that you're used toooooooo
TomServo: The chorus starts with "Don't go chasing waterfalls...", for anyone wanting to spare themselves the pain.
jurov: since these SGML comments cannot be ELI5.. what else could be expected
mircea_popescu: many popular browsers completely ignore the specification and implement what users have come to expect: comments delimited with ‘<!--’ and ‘-->’.
mircea_popescu: On the other hand, most HTML writers don’t perceive comments as anything other than text delimited with ‘<!--’ and ‘-->’, which is not quite the same. For example, something like ‘<!------------>’ works as a valid comment as long as the number of dashes is a multiple of four (!). If not, the comment technically lasts until the next ‘--’, which may be at the other end of the document. Because of this,
mircea_popescu: According to specifications, HTML comments are expressed as SGML declarations. Declaration is special markup that begins with ‘<!’ and ends with ‘>’, such as ‘<!DOCTYPE ...>’, that may contain comments between a pair of ‘--’ delimiters. HTML comments are “empty declarations”, SGML declarations without any non-comment text. Therefore, ‘<!--foo-->’ is a valid comment, and so is ‘<!--one-- --two-
mircea_popescu: one of the better lolz about the html :
asciilifeform: 'don't do the rape if you can't do the ape.' -- ilkka kokkarinen
mircea_popescu: ALL THE WORDS ARE THE SAME WORD
bounce waits for the "oh grow up already" trend on reddit
mircea_popescu: gaze upon the pit, asciilifeform !
jurov: looks like they need some ELI5 explanation
jurov: hi asciilifeform, have you seen the discussion on r/buttcoin?
asciilifeform not an 'esperantist' and doubts mr. o is either
mircea_popescu: but it must be noticed, this simple fact : the current shoehorning nuts approach to communication does in fact offer an absolute guarantee. even if what i say doesn't make sense on the first pass, either you reread and get it or you throw an error which THEN makes sense to me and i fix it.
mircea_popescu: five minutes later you'd want this appalling sort of C++ expunged from the world
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform imagine for a moment if you spoke a language derived out of ground down steel balls instead of shoehorned nuts found in the forest, and in exchange you had a chance for what i say to make any sort of sense comparable to the matter density of the universe.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and then ussr had to break itself apart to protect itself from those very ones who disagreed. see ?
mircea_popescu: they fucking miss, these steel balls.
mircea_popescu: actual countries, such as romania, made out of ~40 or so different languages, or france, or the english space...well... no such luck.
mircea_popescu: ftr : hangul only works because of the tedious ethnocultural homogenity of the peoples involved (2nd best korea also uses hanja, incidentally).
asciilifeform: yet we make unnaturally-spherical ball bearings from ground steel rather than shoehorning nuts from the forest into bearing rails.
mircea_popescu: the first ever language barn! largest best biggest.
mircea_popescu: lol. way to go this "idea". "if languages were spherical and ate spherical hay, the best barn would be a ball. let me make such!"
mircea_popescu: how do you spell mr Wraithwaithe's name in his system ?
mircea_popescu: now, while utopia is nice and good, how does mr o plan to resolve this problem ? visit everyone's house and beat them into using the same rp ?
mircea_popescu: this was a crucial point in the early history of the various anglosaxon tribes
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, because orlovignorance is like the gift that keeps on giving : english is "not spelled like pronounced" for the exact any other natural language (including ones that believe quite delusionally that they are, like romanian) is not : this allows for a variety of disjunct speakers to at least use the same writing.
Adlai: mircea_popescu: being an early adopter hath itth pritheth
mircea_popescu: <assbot> Logged on 16-05-2013 02:56:36; mircea_popescu: tell you wahjt, if i'm the boss of a tribe and i need a curtrency ima make teeth the currenyc. <<< shit that spelling.
Adlai: so, just knowing that scalpl is managing some assets in a market doesn't reveal its AUM or strategy, neither the general strategy nor the specific one at the present moment... the smaller the AUM, the better you can hide within the invisible hand
mircea_popescu: otherwise my usage was ambiguous, the 2nd reference rto a "3rd stage" just means the 3rd step in the reading process being proposed.
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> mircea_popescu: "sidewalk" << isn't that your building's domain anyways? << the sidewalk ?! no, city property in all new yorks.
Adlai: scalpl executes strategies which a separate component comes up with, in markets of that component's choice. whether that component runs on computers or brains is for that other component to decide.
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2014 21:26:13; mircea_popescu: really the proposition of making a living with trading bots is the response of the engineer who confronted with the fundamental impossibility of making money picking stocks decides to write a hard ai to do it.
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2014 21:16:22; asciilifeform: (in fact, i suspect that any bot whose strategy is not a game-theoretical-finesse-rape of other bots - is quite useless)
Adlai: fwiw, if anybody in here is interested in geeking out a little on scalpl and trying it out for themselves (or just get a better idea for how well it works atm), i'd gladly do that in PM. i try to keep my horn-tooting to a minimum, although http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2014#913050 is still going
asciilifeform: arket capitalization of the entire present (and discounted future) monetary good.' (mr. mold)
asciilifeform: 'One metaphor for monetization is that of a storage vessel, like a battery for electricity or a tank for compressed gas. When people buy into the currency, they are charging the battery and compressing the tank. When they sell out, they are discharging the battery. When new currency is created (perhaps by alchemists) without a buy-in, the tank has sprung a leak. Etc. The charge, or the pressure, is simply the m
Adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-05-2013#33371 << a forex fellow in NYC recently put it best: "Any commodity or asset being used as a store of value will experience higher prices than its 'true value'... Bitcoin separates this into a separate asset, enabling better price discovery for the others"
assbot: Logged on 16-05-2013 02:56:36; mircea_popescu: tell you wahjt, if i'm the boss of a tribe and i need a curtrency ima make teeth the currenyc.
asciilifeform: may have involved skulls rather than scalps.
Adlai: asciilifeform: anything, really, although the resolution of the salty fishmarket is probably too low for scalpl to be much good
gernika: mircea_popescu: im pretty sure 3rd stage reader actually has two cvasi-simultaneous processes where the same photogram as registered by eyes is first parsed for stems then parsed for endings and they get superimposed in a 3rd stage << Is "3rd stage" a reference to a formal description of the classes of reading ability that I can research elsewhere?
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2014 01:18:27; mircea_popescu: there is exactly one avenue to do that : make it so good some actual trader starts using it, after which go work for him.
Adlai: asciilifeform: contract, so i can eat until the avenue ( http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2014#913052 ) opens up again
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu, bounce: "gods" << mayer l brenner's dance of the gods series was very entertaining. i endorse.
Adlai: i'm not sure anybody knows exactly how much of the collected works of erik naggum is trolling and how much is genuine hatred for bullshit and idiocy, but i imagine most was the latter
Adlai: mircea_popescu: poster from my greek history classroom: "It takes N muscles to smile // M[<N] muscles to frown // but 0 to just sit there with a dumb look on your face"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3185426046243327@naggum.net.html <<< i read a few dozen lines in that insane rant, then got bored, scrolled down past 4x as much material, ended up with the signature. sniper rifle ? srsly ? is this guy trolling ?
ben_vulpes: "what politics? what politicians? the above cannot possibly affect bitcoin."
Adlai often gets called a politician by irl friends and is unsure whether to take this as a compliment or wut
mircea_popescu: aha ? what is the q ?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes time for bitcoin foundation to issue a statement that the only thing bitcoin needs is for politicians and other leeches to stfu and go away ?
mircea_popescu: people were still naming their kids calogero after him when de niro was but a wee boy.
asciilifeform: approximately: 'the soviet den of thieves / to council it did go; / the soviet den-of-thieves / to enemy, said 'no!' / we turned that bitch right in / to the chaps at kgb / since then, at not one prison / i ever him did see! '
mats_cd03: 13:13:47 <+mircea_popescu> ... the proper way to regard the mafia is as the legal, lawful govenrment of the place being continually attacked and subverted by various socialists, in rome and abroad. << interesting perspective, this
asciilifeform: incidentally, the roles reversed:
mircea_popescu: (the people in question might have known of this)
asciilifeform: this certainly wasn't part of the marketing literature, no
mircea_popescu: should be obvious why they didn't think much of the other rome
mircea_popescu: sicily was roughly equivalent to old dixie. rural, strong right sorts of people. the proper way to regard the mafia is as the legal, lawful govenrment of the place being continually attacked and subverted by various socialists, in rome and abroad.
asciilifeform: or because the folks with brains understood that they're part of some ecosystem that, if enemy is victorious, is slated for demolition?
mircea_popescu: from what i heard from the remnants of people actually involved, dealing with the germans was more or less like dealing with a party that had done a bunch of drugs, sober.
asciilifeform: they wouldn't play ball with ru either, afaik.
asciilifeform: let's try that again. what's usg's plan for criminal 'elements'? not extermination, in any sense. but to keep the relationship symbiotic rather than predatorial.
mircea_popescu: well... if they do they won't be so long for this world, getting in anyone's way, right ?
mircea_popescu: but this is like saying "it's bad to have oil in the ground, because idiots will drink it"
asciilifeform: distrust in the pathological sense, rather than the 'trust but verify' sense
asciilifeform: and keep them using pwnables, convinced that any defeat is through the work of stoolies in their midst.
asciilifeform: the two purposes of parallel construction are the obvious one (disguise and preserve pwnage capability) but also to sow distrust and spymania among the opponents of usg.
bounce: the money flows with gay abandon to the point there's a term for that: "military industrial complex"
mircea_popescu: this is like saying that the company went bankrupt not because it had no money, but because it kept not being able to move it from accounting to other offices.
bounce: the impression I got was that the SIGINT is quite good, but the inter-office communication not so much
Naphex: in the same day
Naphex: they made 30 arrets + busts, for fraud
mircea_popescu: bounce only compared to other agents, that do a much better job of it.
Naphex: asciilifeform: hey, in the small town i live in, like 300k
asciilifeform: that's the official story.
Naphex: its safe bet to figure that most of the lowlies will be meeting each other
Naphex: what i'm thinking is that they just infiltrate comunities, and then start drilling down
punkman: they took down around 400 .onions btw
mircea_popescu: the usg sigint capacity is really very poor, in spite of large expenditure and publicity
mircea_popescu: sell some pills while keeping track of exactly all the ways the usg gets the data, actually, then leak that.
mircea_popescu: if any of the young uns reading us silently is looking for a dragon to slay anbd be a hero : run a new silkroad as a reverse-honeypot.
Naphex: then eventually comes the bust
asciilifeform: he nailed it at the time of sr1 also.
mircea_popescu: this is the basic work mode of this entire process anyway, it doesn't work too well outside of it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform exactly. which is the angle that i stand behind here. usg is using the tor as it was designed to be used, meanwhile lies about how they got the data, and the people accused are too fucking stupid for that not to stick.
asciilifeform: parallel construction is ridiculously easy, -especially- if the victim is in fact somewhat dull
mircea_popescu: they're addicts, they don't want to believe that.
mircea_popescu: if think about it : accepting the proposition that sr ops are dumb as rocks implies accepting the proposition that the shit will eventually be closed down.
bounce: they all have posters?
mircea_popescu: Naphex well the reddits wish to believe.
mircea_popescu: what the FUCK is this even supposed to mean.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> punkman: hah, same story as SR1.0 <<< im not so sure i believe that, incidentally. iut's called parallel construction for a reason, and that reason is, "lying through the teeth". << SR 1.0 parallel construction, SR 2.0 comedy of errors
asciilifeform: picture if there were only 10 regulars here in #b-a, and one of them were ninjasp4mz0r
asciilifeform: herr naggum was in the unfortunate position of inhabiting a very small space where idiots could not be routed around, but had to be actively hounded into exile
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lol way to go on a rant. clearly the quoted guy meant "people" as in groups. the implication that naggum isn't a person is not found inside the op's position.
mircea_popescu: the reason contemporary arabs still believed stuff abandoned as lulzy centuries ago in europe has everything to do with me being the first nonbeliever they ever met.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, that may well explain it. lack of experience makes any fiction plausible to the noob mind.
mircea_popescu: yet... the sky is not kept up there by "respect", not of this, nor of that, nor of anything.
mircea_popescu: notably, primitive minds in egypt had pretty much the same fiirm conviction last i visited.
mircea_popescu: primitive religious minds all over europe firmly believed that unbelievers can not be decent, and will kill themselves or go on a rampage or something
asciilifeform: and therefore able to sustain the illusion that most of the bipeds around are 'people' worth 'respect'
mircea_popescu: in a more scholarly perspective : that "respect for others" argument is an exact reprise of the historical argument for "the respect for god". especially in the posited ill effects.
asciilifeform: naggum, imho, suffered from the crucial handicap of not growing up in the shark tank
mircea_popescu: i don't happen to be stuck in either of those two fixations that he proposes as fundamental, and somehow the sky is not falling upon the earth.
mircea_popescu: " Losing respect for people is the first step towardsthe criminally insane mind. Losing the ability to think of otherhuman beings as of one's own kind is the last, the idea that one isdifferent from others, an outsider to humanity. You have crossed thatcrucial line, probably a long time ago." <<< fwiw, naggum i trivially invalidated by example.
mircea_popescu: almost as if it were the 1970s.
asciilifeform: the 25 y.o. 'editors' are editing the 19 y.o. yesterday's redditors.
mircea_popescu: it's shocking for the us emigre.
mircea_popescu: you should see this place. they are "horribru racists", which somehow correlates (unexplainedly, really!) with their very serious take on newspapers. they have like, actual editorials, and stuff.
chetty: use a word not on the approved list and you will never get that job, obviously you are a dangerous 'thinker'
asciilifeform sometimes visits coffee shops in wash.,d.c. area and amuses himself by reading front page of the local fishwraps and counting the schoolboy-level homonym and grammatic mistakes.
asciilifeform: (a la the chinese imperial exams)
asciilifeform: 'newspeaks' in any and all cases are plaything of the mandarin class.
mircea_popescu: (explanation of that joke, for the recent : fifty years ago, the way to say "we fucked" was to say "we made it")
chetty: the list of 'approved' words will be down to a few hundred in no time.
mircea_popescu: he has the chance of a snowball up satan's arse to do a better job than all the femiwhales running around using words for purposes.
mircea_popescu: so what, trojan horse, trying to ruin their language ?
mircea_popescu: if he imagines saving a few bytes of notation can have any sort of measurable impact on the workload of culture.
mircea_popescu: just stating for the record.

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