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assbot: A conceit, or the importance of blogging pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: Silk Road, other Tor “darknet” sites may have been “decloaked” through DDoS | Ars Technica
mircea_popescu: i didn;'t get around to reading it yet, but its in the pile.
saifedean: mo, i did email you the dissertation the other day, did you get it?
gribble: adlai was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 12 hours, 28 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: * Adlai waits on the go
jurov: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTgzMjg , also another dude (Colin Watson) has quit
assbot: xombrero - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
ben_vulpes is wondering about the practicality of using 0.5.3 as a starting pin
jurov: ben_vulpes iirc i did it with .7 or .8 then "bootstrapped" .9 by pointing it to .8 node on LAN
mircea_popescu: so leave the guy a comment.
assbot: Crypto Money Expo - Bitcoin online meeting - Bitdesire - The Bitcoin Network
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is of relatively little consequence to us, because we use gribble rather than the pks mess.
ben_vulpes: subject of .9, has anyone downloaded the full chain with a .5/.6/.7/.8/.9 client? no bootstrapping, no shared db?
mircea_popescu: forget it lol, the thing is roughly bitcoin .9
ben_vulpes: it's hard to tell if it's claiming that. the doc says "try this"
punkman: https://github.com/coruus/cooperpair/tree/master/keysteak << "intercepts a request for a key by keyid, generates a PGPv3 key, performs the 0xdeadbeef attack, and returns a spoofed (but valid) PGPv3 key with the same long keyid."
assbot: Crypto Money Expo - Bitcoin online meeting - Bitdesire - The Bitcoin Network
mircea_popescu: "If the output size of the chosen hash is larger than the number of bits of q, the hash result is truncated to fit by taking the number of leftmost bits equal to the number of bits of q. This (possibly truncated) hash function result is treated as a number and used directly in the DSA signature algorithm."
jurov: the article mentions "boundries" several times, too
jurov: they will also consider this a confirmation that mircea rides his keyboard hard
jurov: that's there for future data archeologists, to discern fakes
mircea_popescu: i guess you get the fox award.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i was curiously waiting for the first one to notice.
ben_vulpes: lol did we *all* overlook the typo in the last paragraph?
mod6: anyway, there is a bunch of stuff obv. just another thing for clean up at some point.
mod6: so has anyone else noticed that the makefile doesn't provide a way to build /without/ debug flags? lol
mod6: mp also, thx for the tip about "personal-digest-preferences"
mod6: ^ with the 512 for good measure
asciilifeform off to see some exotic cats. raises a glass to the ghost of moiety.
mircea_popescu: in the end. and its a great point. but before he gets there he steps in it.
asciilifeform: he was arguing, in the end, for s-expressions.
mircea_popescu: no but wait, my question is, if not {[()]} then what, ()[()]() etc ?
asciilifeform: and the basic premise was also a crock of shit (if no naked eyes nor naked hands, why not a compact binary format?)
asciilifeform: the verbose monstrosities of **ml-series were justified by the notion that a) no one will ever be forced to write them by hand b) no one will ever be forced to read them with naked eyes
asciilifeform: there's a reverse-engineered driver for it, somewhere. can't be bothered.
mircea_popescu: dude.... spend the time to put a (was it clock driven ?) spectrometer in a laptop
asciilifeform: gamma-whateverthefuck on uncalibrated displays that one has never seen with own eyes...
mircea_popescu: "Professional graphic artists generally produce Web sites on Macintoshes. They slave over the images until the mid-tones look just right, mid-tones that will be mapped almost to black on a typical Sun workstation or PC. The solution to this problem is trivial: a gamma= field in the IMG HTML tag."
mircea_popescu: yet the thing still survived to present day. makes stuff like the www look likely to live on.
gribble: Dracunculus medinensis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dracunculus_medinensis>; CDC - Guinea Worm Disease - Biology: <http://www.cdc.gov/parasites/guineaworm/biology.html>; CDC - Guinea Worm: <http://www.cdc.gov/parasites/guineaworm/>
asciilifeform: you name it, there's a welcoming climate here somewhere for it.
asciilifeform: all the weird diseases of the tropics, necrotizing fasciitis, etc., will find a welcoming home in usa.
mircea_popescu: i guess after all the tb and bedbug outbreaks in the best socialist california, twas unavoidable.
chetty: nah, just new to the us, because of all the immigration
assbot: 'Kissing bug' disease infected OVER 300,000 people in the US | Daily Mail Online
assbot: Re: The Next Generation of Lisp Programmers - Naggum cll archive
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it was a fun thing to make, that. i think i still have the publisher responses somewhere, "omg you write the greatest letters and whoa so sorry i can't publish this"
assbot: Asylum: The Novel: Chet, Zeno: Amazon.com: Books
mircea_popescu: and speaking of which! http://www.amazon.com/Asylum-The-Novel-Chet/dp/B000ODPCKQ holy shit aftermarket.
mircea_popescu: "The result? A formatting language too wimpy even for a novel." <<< this is pure nonsense. i had my novel on the web just fine in plain html.
mircea_popescu: i believe the proper femsociety word for one who does not care about stupid shit is rapist.
JorgePasada: Bitcoin is a whole-assed implementation of skin in the game...
pete_dushenski: the concept of skin in the game is nothing new
ben_vulpes: "they"?
pete_dushenski: the architect knows more than the inspector ever could
pete_dushenski: which is why they invented hammurabi's code
asciilifeform: this is more or less same as the (very true) observation that buildings which stand up, whether in england or in best-korea, are designed on same basic principles.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck ever read whatever software the dns letters run ? who ever wrote a patch for it ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, re the entire extension and so forth : everything that works on the internet and in the world works on "our" principles.
assbot: #bitcoin-assets | You cannot stop the clouds by the building of a ship.
pete_dushenski: @pete_dushenski Just like http://bitcoin-assets.com RT @nntaleb: Hard to conceive, but #ISIS is the product of the internet.
assbot: Just like http://t.co/VhF3XQ1Tiq RT /nntaleb: Hard to conceive, but /hashtag/ISIS?src=hash is the product of the internet.
PeterL: but I want everything to fit in the models I already have !!1!
mircea_popescu: PeterL the reason i said "for the theoretically minded" was exactly this tongue in cheek point. "take your broken models and try make sense of the world whydontcha!"
asciilifeform: PeterL: what is the point of shoehorning things into these weird categories?
mircea_popescu re-reads, notices he misspelled guns as huns, wonders why the fuck has he not realised this before.
mircea_popescu: PeterL look at the discussion about al schwartz's failed measurements.
JorgePasada: asciilifeform: exactly, it's in the network of people & the chain of transactions and everything that's brought us to this point.
mircea_popescu: code works slowly, you spend a life and in the end it's all a waste.
mircea_popescu: PeterL huns are open for anyone to take, and kill themselves with.
JorgePasada: PeterL: Anyone can fork it, not anyone can do the backlog of proof of work to 'take' things though.
asciilifeform: one possible argument here is that the complete system is not in the code.
PeterL: so therefore it is open for anybody to take
asciilifeform: and they can grow own gurlz
mircea_popescu: sure, they could.
PeterL: well, with code, they could fork it and make their own version
mircea_popescu: that safadean fellow can get in the wot. but otherwise, most people can try.
mircea_popescu: and no, emphatically NOT anyone can get in the wot.
mircea_popescu: and i did happen to have the finest bitches in the place, buncha losers.
PeterL: and anybody can get into the WoT
mircea_popescu: suppose ninjashogun wants to push a patch for deedbot. or, whatever, the cardano.
mircea_popescu: PeterL if you're in the wot.
mircea_popescu: PeterL well, it should be obvious in the logs :D!!!
asciilifeform: and likely to suffer the fate of the first deedbot at some point, possibly repeatedly
asciilifeform: from what i can personally see, it's heavy on the duct tape
mircea_popescu: yeah hacking the supernintendo is actually still part of training hackers afaik.
asciilifeform: hence definable. and works, like mathematics, rather than like sand castle built in a cesspit.
asciilifeform: because the machine is standard. as in, entirely. and entirely stateless except for your rom.
asciilifeform: one reason why folks still write programs for toys such as 'super nintendo' - despite the need to DIY roms
mircea_popescu: but anyway, for the theoretically minded : would you say the b-a software paradigm is open source or closed source ?
asciilifeform: the above point re: flash and pdf, also applies to game machines.
asciilifeform: it did not make sense in my mind at the time.
asciilifeform: a greybeard once described the modern computer as 'apartment with plumbing but no sewer connection'
mircea_popescu: they use exaclty a biological implementation of personal sovereignity to build open but not too open systems that survive well in the world.
mircea_popescu: the open/closed software has no stable solution otherwise.
mircea_popescu: this is, at least in my view, why personal sovereignity is not avoidable on the mid or long term.
asciilifeform: a whole gang of vultures 'embraced and extended' them, including but not limited to microshit
asciilifeform: www in the html-js-and-extension-crud sense is a case of standards 'so open their brains fall out'
mircea_popescu: as stupid as the man in charge can be, the benefits often outpace the damage. this was discussed here re stalin
PeterL: sort of the complete opposite of open source?
PeterL: Oh, my computer can't get chrome, in VM Ubuntu the chrome says it can't get the latest flash
PeterL: JorgePasada: do they have such things?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, re i do the same.
JorgePasada: PeterL: Couldn't you just download a custom browser package that has a version of flash bundled with it then?
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> personally, i have always used only the most basic and essential subset of pgp std. functionality. <<
PeterL: just another way to introduce more dependencies
asciilifeform: and the ultimate champ in cementing ancient keys in place, or so i'm told, mircea_popescu's mpex
asciilifeform: jurov's turdatron, another
asciilifeform: and wot isn't even the only gizmo here that uses keys
asciilifeform: personally, i have always used only the most basic and essential subset of pgp std. functionality.
pete_dushenski: i suppose you could use a subkey for gribble and keep the master airgapped
asciilifeform: the only person who can correctly determine your favourite level of risk - is you
pete_dushenski: so i guess the question is whether keeping a key online for gribble authing is *that* much of a risk
ben_vulpes: you can also pull your master key out of the keyring and stash it safely somewhere, pete_dushenski
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: the point of airgapping is to defend the key. which you are using when you sign, yes
pete_dushenski: noob question about pgp keys: is there any sense in airgapping for signing only?
JorgePasada: Technically 31c3 is the confrerence I guess
mircea_popescu: appreciate my "in the end it's unclear" instead. it's damned good :D
mircea_popescu: so in the end it's unclear.
mircea_popescu: course then russia was trying to join california in the warsaw pact, and a bunch of topless aggitator chicks kept fucking the pot,
JorgePasada: Anyone going to CCC this year? I'm thinking about making the trip
mircea_popescu: these piled up, eventually the us collapsed of it, took them twenty years to regroup, but meanwhile lost alaska and california.
mircea_popescu: at some point in the cold war, the united states president was a totally inept ninkompoop, principally remembered for having taken his shoes off in the un council. this guy had an oversized military and inept economic policies that stalled the country. his fellow americans didn't think much of him, kept making little mistakes.
mod6: well, i guess there isn't anything I can do now, other than sign it again with 512 ://
pete_dushenski: the cold war was won?
mircea_popescu: easiest thing in the world is a mistake. the fucking cold war was won not by any other means than... mistakes.
mircea_popescu: big bad is dumb as rocks, on its own. has nfi what all the things mean.
mircea_popescu: gotta understand that any big bad only exists as a work of fiction, otherwise is simply a collection of men. gotta give those men ways out, so that "mysterious" and "inexplicable" things happen
mod6: pete_dushenski: ah, yah, overlooked the flag *grumble*
asciilifeform: problem is, let's say the devil has sha1 collision finder, and decides to apply to my case
pete_dushenski wonders why mod6 and asciilifeform signed the tithe3 with SHA1...
mircea_popescu: these don't sound so much like vital organs.
mircea_popescu: a man is not required to inherit his father's warts.
asciilifeform: also must appreciate how much hand-driven 'typesetting' (e.g., using linebreaks and editing around known fixed row/column viewers such as the 80x25 term) took place in the 'golden age' of fido et al
mircea_popescu: fwiw, asylum, which i typeset myself, was printed as a pdf. the house ran a large web press, did my run in like three hours.
chetty: adobe reps were very adept at sabatoge back in the w3c days
mircea_popescu: i am not proposing to remove the carpenter's hammers.
asciilifeform: basic problem here: if there were ten million idiots swinging hammers at strangers in the city streets, it does not thereby follow that carpenters ought to get by without hammers.
chetty: adobe is one of the pillars of evil
mircea_popescu: none of the fucking lines allign! save us microsoft!
mircea_popescu: how the fuck can you do that w/o adobe o noes!
asciilifeform: incidentally, they have quite a bit of clever automatics re: reflow
asciilifeform: tell that to the latex folks, they would love to know the elixir.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, the problem is not nearly as hard as all that.
mircea_popescu: you know, while this may well be a pn complete problem in the general case,
asciilifeform: the only solution to above is to essentially do the typesetter's job and latexize it
mircea_popescu: smart isn't the world. about as sane.
mircea_popescu: i tell you. fixed-form is an instrument for talking with the braindamaged.
asciilifeform: it's still state of the art in driving printer.
mircea_popescu: which were demented at the time.
mircea_popescu: to talk to motherfucking printers
asciilifeform: postscript (essentially the guts of pdf) existed.
mircea_popescu: nobody perceived a need for pdf back before sept 1993 did they ?
mircea_popescu: you pump out the text, they figure out how to display it ?
asciilifeform: what observables would be different if the audience were not demented, and could be trusted?
mircea_popescu: oh, wait, because the audience is demented and can't be trusted ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and why do they want this ?
asciilifeform: plenty of people who aren't the least bit idiotic or government-affiliated want to package a document and have it appear exactly the same on the other end of the wire.
mircea_popescu: keeping idiots poor and powerless is the only sound purpose of government.
mircea_popescu: then those idiots become a group large enough to drive fashions.
mircea_popescu: governments have actual money to waste, and they do on hiring idiots.
mircea_popescu: the reason for it is contained in the declaration's last paragraphs.
asciilifeform: it's essentially the same as the reason 'flash' exists.
asciilifeform: the interesting thing is the 'psychiatric' reason for the pestilential spread of pdf for text.
asciilifeform: i did write a gizmo that outputs graphical render for the pages, but realized that the bandwidth and disk cache costs would break my back, and then let the domain go to the vultures.
mircea_popescu: well, you gotta remember, a thing made is always a platform for further things.
asciilifeform: but then realized that it would be mostly useless (in those days, almost everything i ever saw in 'pdf' belonged in that or similar format - technical documents heavy on graphics)
asciilifeform: even included the caching thing
asciilifeform: kakobrekla, mircea_popescu, others - re: 'nopdf' - i actually used to own 'nopdf.com' and planned to put a similar widget there. (2009-ish?)
mod6: <+asciilifeform> gotta sign, so we 'all hang together or separately' (as, i think, were the words of the americans.) << As true today as it was for Benjamin Franklin at the signing of the Declaration of Independence in 1776
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: User 'Adlai', with keyid 4D88596A7CDA03F9, fingerprint FCBC64EFDF1D6C1E4E964AEE4D88596A7CDA03F9, and bitcoin address 13dkw1PtojBW74FN7ERbHqoEvgsTmtARuj, registered on Sat Oct 6 00:55:28 2012, last authed on Sun Nov 9 04:47:12 2014. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=Adlai . Currently authenticated from hostmask Adlai!~Adlai@gateway/tor-sasl/adlai .
PinkPosixPXE: looks like he got authed
Adlai waits on the go
Adlai: ben_vulpes: i'm not seeing it in the mailing list yet, and i have to leave. hope this cuts it: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=pCFcsbrW
Adlai: they're both the same overall protocol, just a serialization formats and signature algorithms
punkman: auth with bc, then changekey?
punkman: yeah the gingerbeer wasn't bad either
cazalla: punkman, prefer the gingerbeer and sarsparilla
cazalla: punkman, he drinks fosters in his youtube videos and is under the impression that makes him an honorary australia
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: The 9th Circle Film Club: CyberTracker (1994) | Fustar
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell nubbins` http://www.fustar.info/2010/05/04/the-9th-circle-film-club-cybertracker-1994/ << this guy wanted a tshirt, in like 2010
mircea_popescu: incomprehensible the void powering these... things, whatever they are. what was he doing before, talking to a bottle of draino about how he's bald in spirit, just like the genie guy ?
cazalla: this might be the first day since qntra started that i did not post.. nothing of interest today
Adlai: (the author of the altcoinpress article)
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2014 22:35:52; mircea_popescu: "Thank you for this clarification Mr. Nakamoto. It has been an honor to be labeled by my friends as "Satoshi's Drunk Uncle" and it's a moniker I'll wear proudly until the day I retire from Crypto. The Goldcoin (GLD) developers truly admire your work and strive to continue improving upon its design as a tribute to your unparallelled genius. Your admirer and relative in spirit, MicroGuy."
cazalla: <mircea_popescu> http://altcoinpress.com/2014/11/american-bitcoin-pirate-slammed-for-securities-violations/ << i don't get it. how is the pic related ? <<< same guy who claimed his friends/family called him satoshi's drunk uncle
Adlai: for all i know, my current parameters could be totally overfit to the quirks of two btcfiat marketplaces, or worse, the whole algorithm could be overfit to bitcoin's crazyness and may be totally worthless elsewhere
Adlai: but running scalpl on something other than btcfiat has been on the back burner for a long time, in part due to not wanting to touch any glitzy forex gambler-traps
Adlai: to assuage that look of terminal shock in your eyes: there's no real rush, i have an endless list of other turds to polish
kakobreklaa: lol whats the rush
Adlai: or more precisely... it works, but not as expected by the optimistic plumber
Adlai: upon further examination it does not seem to work
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m54SmVsQqgc << lmao check out them crazy candians
kakobreklaa: lucky i update the page once every 6 months or so you can look at internet archive for freshest news
mircea_popescu: a spoonful of dung has very big possibility, in the future.
zanza: in the future
mircea_popescu: the details are in the f.mpif reports.
kakobrekla: there will web interface, api, internal signals, maybe mobile
zanza: none of them allow you to keep BTC balance I believe
zanza: but the main Forex companies are so regulated by government I don't want to deal with them
mircea_popescu: it's rare that noobs manage to ask questions i actually want to hear the answer to.
zanza: I was reading Bitcointalk, people are looking for Forex to do with Bitcoin, but the main issue is trust
zanza: is business ok for you? something you will continue doing in the future?
zanza: I assume you use your own money to do the forex
zanza: so the price change doesn't effect you
zanza: ok, so do you balance the bitcoin storage somehow like I forget the word
kakobrekla: for my part there is very little risk
mircea_popescu: " After selling his ISP company in 2007, he began work as a researcher and advocate for digital currencies. He enjoys working as a freelance writer and is editor in chief at Altcoin Press." totally, 5 year gap in the mongoloid's cv. spent 2007-2013 staring at a brick.
zanza: Kakobrekla, may I ask, does running the Bit4x site have a lot of risk for you? i mean if prices change
mircea_popescu: seriously ? fucking retard world out there. "little timmy dribbles is an early cerealizer and soup eater"
mircea_popescu: "Greg Matthews is an internet pioneer and early domainer. "
mircea_popescu: zanza they're dumb is the problem. rude, whatever.
zanza: the people on Bitcointalk seem rude
kakobrekla: well the site isnt that good but the service is
zanza: yeah, he lists this as the IRC channel :o
mircea_popescu: "In my last post, I posited a fictional world, Crypton, where no governments1 back up contracts with the threat of force2."
mircea_popescu: "investments" they're called. mpoe-pr was totally a smart way to use money huh.
ben_vulpes: describe the repo in question and your branching policy if you have such and the time to elaborate upon it.
ben_vulpes: Adlai: do us all a favor, and send the mailing list an email, yeah?
ben_vulpes: in the same vein as the declaration, the only code that matters is that as published by *individuals*, and only ever those in the wot.
ben_vulpes: the thing is best pursued as the outputs of *authors*, rather than any sort of "blessed" anything by any sort of "foundation".
ben_vulpes: i'll link in the AM.
Adlai: chalbersma (and anybody else who may have looked at the repo), please make sure to pull the non-FF changes that properly attribute commit authors
kakobrekla: convert on first request then serve from disk
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla feature request : when assbot parses a pdf url, can it spit it out with http://btcscoop.com/cgi-bin/convert.py?docurl= prefixed for convenience, while also making a http request so as to start the conversion ?
mircea_popescu: the next words out of my mouth were, PeterL pls to cache documents and
PeterL: I wonder if I should be caching a copy of documents so that it does not have to do the conversion for everybody clicking the link you just posted?
Adlai tries his hand at the turd polish
RagnarDanneskjol: not a tax - those are fees - paying for a service - one can opt out. point taken on moral vs legal imperative.. its the imperative part i'm still struggling with
mircea_popescu: making it a moral imperative rather than a legal imperative is also important, precisely because the ancient style of voluntary taxation is actually superior, on all scores, to whatever coercitive crap the socialists are doing today.
mircea_popescu: so in this sense, it's politically useful. while i can appreciate the philosophical argument of "epsilon is still fundamentally different from 0", it doesn't carry as much practical importance as all that. for one thing, everyone feels entitled to tax you .1%, including any bank moving your money, and so on and so forth. heck, the miners are taxing about 0.1%
mircea_popescu: manwhile, if they subscribe to this, they don't have to : "i won't pay you any tax, not for any other reason than that ~i already paid~".
mircea_popescu: anyway, arguing against all tax may be a difficult tack for your average business trying to get on with its business rather than become noam chomsky.
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol well... you familiar with the expression "i gave at the office" ?
RagnarDanneskjol: any sense to me -especially until the foundation proves its worth/value
RagnarDanneskjol: mircea_popescu i suppose the notion of taxation in any form makes my brain burn -whether it be through force, state declaration or moral requirement. I am all in favor of the foundation and will likely contribute more than .01% of my earnings to it, but pressing a moral obligation or establishing a rule/precedent for 'taxation' for anyone participating in btc commerce just doesn't make
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> decimation: i suspect that if you kill the db and run it again - different yet. << pretty much how this works yes.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> as i understand, he is trying to somehow deal with the little problem of no one standing up to unwedge 0.5.3 block loader. << nah, not related.
mircea_popescu: <RagnarDanneskjol> in particular the words it is established and moral requirement are unconscionable << why ?
RagnarDanneskjol: chalbersma - also worth mentioning (what's wrong w/ the 'official' ver): http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/10/20_a-summary-of-changes-to-bitcoin-since-0321.html
decimation: there's nothing like reading a slow signal on an old analog scope
RagnarDanneskjol: really only here for now: http://therealbitcoin.org no github or anything yet
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