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nubbins`: another arm strapped across a flabby, hairy chest
nubbins`: maybe a hand cupping the genitals
mircea_popescu: "Bitcoin brings out the best in you" or w/e.
mircea_popescu: check out the dailymotion monopoly.
BingoBoingo: Peoples with mobile devices, test the qntra layout
nubbins`: they did not serve south african beef
nubbins`: i worked in a restaurant here in canada, they served argentine beef
fluffypony: the steak here has mostly been average, I've had one above-average steak and that was at Seasons52 in Los Angeles
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: guy was all "we'll never find it", i described the shape and he was all "o yeah, that one" << bwahahaha
BingoBoingo: The problem of cancer is cell division and cells not self destructing when they come up defective because the checking mechanism's broke. The anerobe thing is a side effect.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo anyway, as far as i understand (not an expert) the reason neoplasm mostly turns anaerobic is that apoptosis main branch and aerobic respiration share some protein pathways. so it often gets deleted in the same pass as it were, "no electricity" means no music and no light at the same time.
mircea_popescu: in the end conversion from online recipe to edible recipe is cup of sugar -> spoonful of sugar
mircea_popescu: but anyway, from a political standpoint the "no sugar" angle is good. i'm stuck mostly eating homemade cake because everyone's convinced you need sugar by the bucket. "gotta be sweet man!"
BingoBoingo: Eh, wait to people find out they make glucose...
xanthyos: bagels7: speak to the man!
mircea_popescu: xanthyos: i resent being solicited for help joining the wot only to then have them go afk << resent less, live longer. definitely happier.
BingoBoingo: Well, someone invented the HTML strikethrough tag for a reason
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo well yeah. it's a complicated thing. moreover, simply because one doesn't *eat* sugar does not mean glycogen does not exist in their body or anything
BingoBoingo: As far as the Warburg stuff goes. It's generally accepted that cancer cells generally turn to some some of anearobes, but... SOmetimes it works the opposite way like in breast cancer, and the change over almost certainly seems to not be the cause of the cancer.
cazalla: aspho, BingoBoingo has updated the post to clarify but fwiw i was implied it might not be factual given facebook
mircea_popescu: an underpowered immune system, among other things. (then again, other systems, such as a whole array of cellular antioxidants, essentially all the red cell metabolism and all the brain are powered by the carbohydrate metabolism). in short... no easy answers. srsly. we "are evolved" to do everything.
mircea_popescu: andwidth is much wider than the sugars, for the obvious reason. this makes a lot of subordinate wheels be connected principaly to that main engine, much like the alternator in the car is connected to the gasoline powered carnot cycle, not to say the steering wheel. one of those subordinate wheels is actually the immune system, and so in a very pedestrian reading, obtaining most of your energy from the kreb cycle means
mircea_popescu: lobbes: okay.. I can maybe see diabetes.. but to eliminate the possibility of cancer by cutting out sugar and seeds <<< there are some good if not winning arguments in favour. generally, fats are about twice as energetic per gram as sugars. however the power (ie, energy per time) function is much flatter. that's only half the story, of course, because the fat (and protein, they're related, as you'd expect) processing b
mircea_popescu: "Not only is the notion of government by Facebook page about on par with the US immigration policy implemented by wikipedia lookup, but the interpretation offered isn't even supported by the original text, which merely says..."
BingoBoingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2lvczp/ukraine_and_bitcoin_clarification/ << Doesn't seem to contradict the Qntra report.
cazalla: aspho, the post references the stupidity of "issuing missives via Facebook post" so no, Qntra has not done coindesk
mircea_popescu: there are reports... coulda been worse.
mircea_popescu: "There are reports that the National Bank of Ukraine has issued a directive on its Facebook page banning the use of Bitcoin for payments within the country"
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes well who the fuck's to know. but anyway, leavening was an innovation roughly at the time, poorly received
gernika: And apparently beer (from the barley)
mircea_popescu: the romans made bread, ie, in an oven
mircea_popescu: in any case : they mostly ate firepit baked unleavened clumps of dough
mircea_popescu: for one thing they didn't eat fish (seth lived in the nile). for another, i dun recall what their main grain was but definitely not wheat.
gernika: mircea_popescu I'm guessing Egyptian workers/soldiers got the same.
mircea_popescu: gernika that's pretty much the first stable diet. roman workers/soldiers got bread, beer (liquid bread) and some olives/small fishes.
nubbins`: by the time "until" reached my lips, i realized that's exactly what it was 8)
nubbins`: ben_vulpes i was recently trying to describe the sensation of being rendered unconscious by NO2 in a clinical setting. after hemming and hawing for a few minutes, i said "it's sort of like doing whippets until you pass out"
gernika: mircea_popescu ok I should substitute "mostly grain + small amount of meat and vegetables" for "starch alone" then
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nubbins`: mircea_popescu iirc the b deficiencies were from doing whippets all day
gernika: I suspect that there has not been much or any negative selection related to eating grains. Eating them doesn't kill you before you can breed. So yes, eventually they may or may not make you fat and give you diabetes, but not before you've had 10 kids fueled on starch alone.
BingoBoingo: It's not the easiest thing to find, but actual cultured butter is still accesible here.
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BingoBoingo: I've never had the opportunity to actual yogurt.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo incidentally : yogurt is properly made out of boiled milk, whereas the same process applied to raw milk resulted in something called "sana" in romania of the time.
joecool: is that a polite way of saying "i'd rather not disclose"?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo this used to be what students lived off in the 80s/90s. there was an actual shop speficially catering to it. various sour milks and breads. << Well, I picked up the habit in school, so...
mircea_popescu: xanthyos moar like, what do they do.
BingoBoingo: Millet's probably in the que to become a hipster thing. They just have to work through the other fads.
xanthyos: <+mircea_popescu> xanthyos: bringing a new guy here who wants in the wot
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo this used to be what students lived off in the 80s/90s. there was an actual shop speficially catering to it. various sour milks and breads.
mircea_popescu: (incidentally, millet unlevened bread, now that's an experience. i have nfi why it's not becoming a hipster thing. maybe they never heard of it)
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2014 13:26:02; BingoBoingo: The gluten thing is just because some members of the species don't have genetic compatibility with this "agriculture" thing yet...
joecool: mircea_popescu: nah, despite the fact i live in 'murica, i have grown my own fruit and vegetables
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mircea_popescu: saifedean: But we are not meant to eat the seeds [...] they are meant to go into the earth to bring forth more plants. << http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk nothing is "meant", srsly.
mircea_popescu: which of these are you giving up because of that silly "evolved" theory ? i wasn't evolved to use a keyboard nor to cross the street nor do i give a shit.
mircea_popescu: and come to think of it, we're quite pointedly not evolved to use condoms, either.
mircea_popescu: xanthyos: bringing a new guy here who wants in the wot <<< well, who is he ?
mircea_popescu: "o no, we will just work with the usg, help them track bitcoiner's shippments. nothing bad could ever happen!"
mircea_popescu: may be the worst scampeaches i ever did see.
mircea_popescu: so the sad news is, argentina has bad peaches down to a fucking artform. this set here, properly juicy, smell great, taste like fucking corcoduse
mircea_popescu: joecool:plenty of deer to shoot and ran a large vegetable garden saifedean:undata but then... who will raise the aggregate demand?! <<< you two are aware that if this were the normal about 90% of urban population would die off through simple starvation within the decade, yes ?
mircea_popescu: joecool: ah i missed mp, funny seeing the noob log << good to know someone actually misses me :D
mircea_popescu: i think half the liquid i drink is milk.
mircea_popescu: undata: the cheese could go too but that's no way to live << no buttermilk ? no yogurt ? why would i even.
mircea_popescu: i mean sure, the hamburger & canned hot dog crowd is eating very poorly, but that's not the same thing.
mircea_popescu: saifedean: making the switch from the crap that everyone eats today to paleo eating is no less revolutionary than jumping from the world of bezzle to bitcoin <<< eh get out with the paleo stuff. what do you do for cake ?
BingoBoingo: <saifedean> if you eliminate grains, seeds and sugars, you effectively eliminate the possibility of developing most modern diseases, including diabetes, cancer, alzheimer's, obesity, and so on << What about Chagas, Obola, and Syphillis?
nubbins`: guy was all "we'll never find it", i described the shape and he was all "o yeah, that one"
nubbins`: postage apparently emancipated itself from the package, it'd been sitting in an abandoned mail room awaiting destruction
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nubbins`: ;;seen thestringpuller
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mike_c: all the best jokes require explanation.
mike_c: oh no, i didn't get it either. he explained it in channel at some point.
Apocalyptic: as any other type of sugar
assbot: The Prime Cause and Prevention of Cancer by Otto Warburg
lobbes: <+saifedean> yes, though i havent read this piece, but take it from the horse's mouth: http://www.whale.to/a/warburg.html << hehe, I dig the tripod.com url at the top of the page; vintage
saifedean: i didnt actually read the link you sent so i can't vouch for it, or if it's an accurate explanation of the topic, so i gave you one that i had read which i know is good
ben_vulpes: "i didn't actually read the source oh noes"
ben_vulpes: <saifedean> yes, though i havent read this piece << you're like the guy who links to btc stealing malware
assbot: The Prime Cause and Prevention of Cancer by Otto Warburg
saifedean: yes, though i havent read this piece, but take it from the horse's mouth: http://www.whale.to/a/warburg.html
saifedean: check out Otto Warburg, German Nobel Laureate in Medicine, whose main contribution was to discover that it is only through sugar intake that cancer cells can grow. Eliminate sugar, eliminate cancer, it's that simple. And that, incidentally, is why hunter-gatherers have zero sugar
ben_vulpes: lobbes: excess energy in the system develops parasites
lobbes: <+saifedean> if you eliminate grains, seeds and sugars, you effectively eliminate the possibility of developing most modern diseases, including diabetes, cancer, alzheimer's, obesity, and so on << okay.. I can maybe see diabetes.. but to eliminate the possibility of cancer by cutting out sugar and seeds??
chetty: I read about that coffee with butter thing, havent had the nerve to try it
ben_vulpes: dude what is with the endless wordstream
saifedean: dark chocolate aint that bad, the thing is, you never have to completely eliminate anything... you just need to drastically reduce some thing and make sure they are not a regular part of your diet
ben_vulpes: it puts a mess of holes about three feet below the water line of this "ancient diet" crap.
joecool: sugar is not a concern there
chetty: ahh I be chocolate isnt on the list, cant be doing without that for more than a week :P
saifedean: if you eliminate grains, seeds and sugars, you effectively eliminate the possibility of developing most modern diseases, including diabetes, cancer, alzheimer's, obesity, and so on
saifedean: But we are not meant to eat the seeds or the grains, they are meant to go into the earth to bring forth more plants. That;s why seeds and grains do not look appealing, do not taste or smell good, and they are absolutely destructive for our body if eaten. agriculture and modern processing over the last 10,000 years has made these things slightly less destructive to us and we have developed some capacity to tolerate them, bu
joecool: nah fuck fruit tbh, rarely eat the stuff
ben_vulpes: saifedean: have you ever read the 10,000 year explosion?
saifedean: we humans are simply not evolved to eat grains and seeds. Evolution has worked for millions of years so that the fruit contains nutrients that are good for us, and it also looks good, smells good and appeals to us, because it's good for us and for the plant that we eat the fruit, and that's why we can eat it in the raw.
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xanthyos: bringing a new guy here who wants in the wot
chetty: <saifedean> oh chetty, those who resist paleo the most are the ones most desperately in need of it!// the paleo idea makes sense to me, and for sure all those chemical and stuff that passes for food is bad idea, but I really don't see passing on grain entirely.
saifedean: i don't mind automation for as long as it does not compromise the quality of the thing in question. So, a fridge is a good idea to keep my steaks cool for a few hours between butchering and grilling. A deep freezer is not such a good idea coz the meat will never taste the same.
undata: I'm trying to find an article; the sentence that sticks out in my memory was something like "why would anyone buy lightbulbs when they can just pay staff to see to their candles?"
ben_vulpes: nah, just put hippies to work running the aquaponics
undata: it seems to me that there are gains to be found via automation which would allow a person to both produce their own food and have time to spare for other pursuits
undata: my parents have a largely self-sufficient farm, and their processes are not particularly scientific
saifedean: undata but then... who will raise the aggregate demand?! How selfish would it be of all families to think of their own survival and leave the national economy to flounder.
joecool: i've produced a good chunk of mine off and on over the years
undata: saifedean: its a dream of mine that there'll be a return to families producing their own food.
saifedean: oh but paleo is intimately related to bitcoin: it is cheap money that has plagued the world with high time preference and that, in turn, is what has turned food from being nourishing to a giant bezzle-funded industry that aims to provide sugar kicks and insulin spikes to the proles immediately when the temptation kicks in.
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joecool: ah i missed mp, funny seeing the noob log
undata: the cheese could go too but that's no way to live
saifedean: well thestringpuller, i've tried that shitty-ass diet and i tried being paleo, and there's no comparison. Once you try going paleo, eating crap seems about as reasonable as not looking around before crossing the street. Sure, it can be done... but why?
chetty: <<< never giving up bread and pastries but agree with the 'crap' descriptor for most of what passes as food
undata: saifedean: there is *so* much eaten that is barely (if at all) food
saifedean: interesting... my idea is also to make it a paleo restaurant... if you guys haven't gone paleo yet, let me just point that making the switch from the crap that everyone eats today to paleo eating is no less revolutionary than jumping from the world of bezzle to bitcoin
chetty: saifedean, actually I think there is good call for the sort of 'grill' you describe in Argentina, the relaxed atmosphere, the fire, etc. Steak may be great here but it could use some 'trappings'
mircea_popescu: anyway, off to eat. later good folk of the evil cult!
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mircea_popescu: 1kg porterhouse steak is the golden standard in my eyes nao.
saifedean: well, as i said i am hoping to go to BA sometime soon, my argentine friend will be there and it's meant as a crash course in grilling... i could just stick around, but i'd need me a new business idea for the post-bezzlepocalypse
mircea_popescu: you come here, you have a good steak, you forgot why you ever wanted to make a steakhouse. much like the man who was considering doing his own plumbing out of reeds in lebanon, moves to constantinople with the marble baths forgets all about it.
saifedean: come on man, you're not expecting me to go set up a grilling business in buenos aires, what was it about taking the coals to newcastle...
saifedean: the main question that remains now concerns the location of my grill... Lebanon is my favorite place in the world, but it might not be the ideal location what with all the religious wars breaking out... Vancouver is another possibility...
saifedean: my idea is to prepare for the future of the triumphant return of hard money, low-time preference, and civilization, and to profit from it by doing good food properly, in a beautiful setting where you can relax around a big grill's fire and enjoy your meal like a civilized human
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mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/the-problem-of-too-much-money/ and also http://trilema.com/2012/lets-dig-a-little-deeper-into-this-entire-deflation-problem/
mircea_popescu: you ever read about the tin women ?
mircea_popescu: exactly right. cheap money and the high time preference.
saifedean: with the emergence of bitcoin and the destruction of the world of bezzle and its instant gratification and fast food culture, people are going to appreciate and pay top dollar for the quality stuff that's done right
saifedean: there are many many things that make a good steak, most of these things require people who do their work honestly and htink long term, and pretty much everything in that process is being destroyed by cheap money and the high-time-preference it engenders in everyone from the farmer to the waiter at your restaurant
saifedean: my best friend is half-argentinian and half lebanese, and we've been talking about this restaurant together for years, he's brought excellent argentine beef over
mircea_popescu: i mostly ate lamb and chicken over my time among the no-pok-people.
saifedean: in lebanon beef isn't very good, but the lamb is excellent, and it is grass-fed
saifedean: once you've had a proper well-cooked steak, any other day of your life will be ruined if you venture into a McDonald's or some other Bezzle Institution
mircea_popescu: they eat a lot of beef in beirut ?
saifedean: well, why else did you move to argentina but for the excellent grass-fed beef?
undata: my god 4 walls and a door and I'm there
saifedean: the way i see it, bitcoin will kill pretty much all the world of bezzle, as i'm sure you folk agree, and the only jobs that will thrive in th future are those that involve actually doing something useful for other people which others appreciate and are happy to pay for. there are few things in life people appreciate better than a well-cooked steak, and few things in life that are done badly as often
ben_vulpes: but what are the engineering arguments for an embedded kv store against which one cannot query well if at all vs. a embedded sql store?
saifedean: i definitely have the travel stories and the pretty wife and zero shits are given about what may come... most my days are a struggle to secure excellent quality food, a struggle which will only be resolved conclusively once i have my entire operation
mircea_popescu: it works extremely poorly if one merely copies the visible parts of the institution.
mircea_popescu: this model works extremely well if one has the basement (not just the gold, but also the many travel stories in the basement of their head)
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller saifedean i am familiar with your idea of restaurants. these work as a retirement ploy by old merchants, who have an immense pile of gold in the basement, a pretty wife and don't give a shit about what may come, they juist want people to hang out and chat with.
saifedean: the idea of being my own boss, and to only be the boss of a few people is ideal. easily beats having to deal with hundreds of idiots in a large operatoin and suffer their idiocy
chetty: sounds like a little piece of heaven there saifedean
saifedean: why the hell would i want to scale? if i wanted to scale i'd join mcdonalds for a rewarding career and an early grave
saifedean: because honey badger doesn't give a shit, and because bitcoin is the honey badger of money
mircea_popescu: the problem is this doesn't scale.
mircea_popescu: saifedean maybe. i am also very good at cooking, people love my stuff and i could definitely get them to pay.
chetty: yeah but where does the name come from? sounds too much like honey pot, imo
undata: I like bitcoin and grilled food; I dunno about the honey badger thing
saifedean: coz i really enjoy grilling, i'm very good at it, people really like my steaks and i could get them to pay me good money to eat it if i put my head to make it good... sounds to me like a better way of spending your life than any bezzle career
saifedean: undata & mp, i'm actually thinking of starting a grill restaurant... to be named the honey badger grill, bitcoin preferred
thestringpuller: Regex, yet another reason I hate strings.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller moderately, but don't ask to ask.
mircea_popescu: either that or start shooting people.
saifedean: it sure as hell beats working in the world of bezzle, a slave-like existence producing nothing and wasting your life in a worthless pissing contest whose first prize is the ability to kiss a bigger ass
mircea_popescu: turns out, it can keep the sane man about three years.
mircea_popescu: retirement is way overrated. i tell you, i thought it was going to be "the life" for the rest of my life. http://trilema.com/2011/nsfw-gradina-edenului/
saifedean: very nice, retirement is underrated. the main appeal of academia for me is that it is a halfway house to retirement
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saifedean: is that when you first started on the righteous path?
mircea_popescu: yeah, and the reason is he's not yet met anyone that groks it fully, so as to answer objection properly.
saifedean: compelling, i must say, but last time i spoke to taleb he wasn't all that interested in bitcoin. i mean, he finds it interesting to a point, but not to the point of healthy obsession and complete disregard of everything else that we share
mircea_popescu: ah ok then
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2014#748585 << this is the delivery of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-07-2014#746817
saifedean: ah, no i don't... i've been trying to learn the ropes
thestringpuller: yes. mining operations are owned by the mob.
jurov: "Dear Ben Lawsky, you are going after the wrong people. Mining operations can be used to launder huge amounts of money."
rithm: ovh is like the parody host
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ben_vulpes: actually i'm noping the fuck out of this article.
ben_vulpes: "However, the real value of Bitcoin is not reaped at an individual level." << he's spot on, though - it's about raping at a collective level
BingoBoingo: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/17439/bitcoin-we-are-all-the-blockchain/ written by this guy http://www.27bslash6.com/p2p2.html
decimation: the whole reason bitcoin is even mildly compelling is because those 'central bankers' who are currently 'controlling money' are fucking things up royally
decimation: "Under the Bitcoin model, those who create the algorithm, protocol, manage the transactional ledger and mine virtual currencies would become the new central bankers, controlling a monetary basis, an immense power and responsibility." << lol yeah that's a 'risk'
decimation: hoarding usd << lol. actually there's a great deal of certainty about the dollar, it's just that the certainty is that there is no fixed number of dollars, never has been, never will be
cazalla: ooh knocked glass off table onto open case.. lucky i drank the water in it just a few minutes ago
RetroUPriser: and that seems like the typical answer
Vexual: cut a deal to keep his shed-load off the streets
ben_vulpes: well pre 2015 bitcoin barely matters in the world at large
Vexual: or perhaps you pay where you think some other entity might lay claim
Vexual: so, I'm porndering the notion "Bitcoin realised"
ben_vulpes: speak further on thy confusion, Vexual
mircea_popescu: i luv the summoning capabilities of teh log.
gribble: mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 5 hours, 18 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <mike_c> quite the empire brewing.
asciilifeform: pizza hut << this distinguishes it from every other cattle farm where the cattle get to use computers, precisely how?
asciilifeform: tor compromise through filled circuit ddos << this is a 'classic', described in academic papers. and i can say for a fact that the 'machine' is still turned on. just last night had a tor client fail to form a circuit, for the first time in many years of semi-regular use.
asciilifeform: has anyone downloaded the full chain with a .5/.6/.7/.8/.9 << 0.8, yes
mircea_popescu: hgmm, was the last oglaf drawn by an intern ?
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as it's the blockchain it will HAVE To work. or bust.
ben_vulpes: i'm trying to estimate if the transfer time for my os x blockchain is worth the risk of it simply not working.
mircea_popescu: if you prefer working locally then not worth it. if you generally use that machine/dc, then worth it.
mircea_popescu: well it's worth the time in the sense that not having the 30gb in question wherever your favourite staging environment is is a major handicap.
ben_vulpes: basically i want to know if uploading my os x 8.6 blockchain to my debian testing machine is worth the time
ben_vulpes: i'm digging through the logs of our conversation about copying blockchains around.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes if you actually have the blockchain by very far the best way to do this is stage a local environment and feed the experimental instance through some sort of loopback
ben_vulpes: does anyone have a node with high throughput to which they'd be willing to whitelist my connections
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell peterl yeah listen, this 50% uptime business is for the dogs.
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JorgePasada: Tor sucks though, you almost have to assume either your entrance or exit node (or worse, both) are compromised these days.
mircea_popescu: JorgePasada maybe read all the disparate stuff, publish a digest.
dub: they need to share that good weed around
dub: oh my god the new firefox ui is terrible
dub: i think the learning is (or was since years ago) don't use tor
JorgePasada: Anyone have any good reading on all the stuff that's been happening with tor because of this latest raid thing?
gribble: Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
mircea_popescu: Naphex on a related note, i really don't get all these derps going "oh you know what ? i'll run a hertzner vm through this magic layer. presto, totally anon!"
mircea_popescu: problem being she hangs out with all these bikers.
saifedean: but if you like buenos aires and istanbul, from what i gather from your blog, you will absolutely love beirut... who's like istanbul's little prettier sister
saifedean: much as i'd love to be in the conference, april might be tough, especially as i'm so goddamn far, but i'll let you know if i manage to work out jan/feb
empyex: mircea_popescu: Next conference starts in 5 months and 8 days. Estimated cost today: 3.74478709 BTC (Details: http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/ )
mircea_popescu: saifedean yes. for that matter, the bitcoin conference is in april.
mircea_popescu: Naphex maybe they were decloaked through sexism.
Naphex: "es, hello, Internet supervillain here," nachash, said that his server—a virtual private server running the German hosting service Hetzner—was initially hit by what he believed was a denial of service attack in Augus'