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dub: the big dick having set
undata: I'm also rating the likelihood that this is true at 0.001%
undata: "xanthyos: they won't even see me because i called the dr a faggot" << winrar right here
assbot: Logged on 24-04-2014 23:07:06; asciilifeform: 'when it comes to milk, we're even with america, at last; as for meat, they're still the leader - our bull broke his cock, alas.'
undata: BingoBoingo: who broke their dick?
undata: dub: farming pitty in the meanwhile?
dub: from the 10th or so
undata: want someone to actually come over there and tuck you in? go to sleep
dub was in a rather large room full of taps this morning
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BingoBoingo: dub: Eat banana, take diphenhydramine, go the fuck to sleep
asciilifeform: why is another question. but - there they are.
asciilifeform: phun phact. you can download the repair manuals for most of the 'mig' machines.
asciilifeform: interceptors and fighting jets in general are a special case of 'cold war' hardware, in that they were never expected to last.
BingoBoingo: Maybe not for all aircraft, but it seems the case for the ones the empire uses with regularity in anger
asciilifeform: if this is not yet, then only a matter of time.
BingoBoingo: I thought even US aircraft now are just parts waiting to be consumed by their brothers and sisters
asciilifeform: then the situation is reversed - handful of working items, large and sometimes well-guarded lot of cannibalism
asciilifeform: but what if they cannot be had.
asciilifeform: think of a taxi or bus park. there's usually a handful of disabled vehicles, but they either await the scrapyard or a shipment of parts, given as the latter can be had
asciilifeform: a greybeard and squad of monkeys parts them out, maintaining the handful in some semblance of working order.
asciilifeform: the rest - are kept in parts graveyards.
asciilifeform: as i understand, this is why countries that inherited, bought, stole, etc. some xxx quantity of soviet aircraft yy years ago, tend to fly some small handful z of them at a time
asciilifeform: much like your finger cannot function for long or very usefully unless attached to the rest of you
asciilifeform: have to understand, jet fighter is not really a complete machine. it is a tentacle of the larger industrial slave empire which produced and employed it.
BingoBoingo: So, you suspect they wouldn't be useful for liberating Rhodesia?
asciilifeform: really, the quintessential specialist's toy.
danielpbarron: 07:29 <+gernika> May I ask where the reptilian reference comes from? << probably from david icke
BingoBoingo: Also might be fun to rent a hangar and extract them of their own power.
asciilifeform: they sit in open air, rusting.
asciilifeform: incidentally, you can see some of these planes from 'google maps'
BingoBoingo: I might have to make a trip there when I can convert BTC to pallets of local scrip
asciilifeform: seems possible that they might agree to part with them for price of scrap, if you arrange transportation.
asciilifeform: there is a titanic pile of them at the little airport there.
BingoBoingo would kind of like the rest of the plane too...
gernika: There was even gassing of dissidents.
asciilifeform: in usa, ferrite core memory was also manufactured well into the ic age
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: note the ics -and- ferrite combo.
assbot: V (1983 miniseries) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1zs7H1T )
gernika: Seemed to have a lot of references to the Nazis. 80s made for TV series in which lizards disguised as humanoids invade the planet.
gernika: May I ask where the reptilian reference comes from? (lizard hitler, et. al) I see some references to Hitler being a Lizard Alien Being on google, but nothing beyond a literal interpretation of that.
BingoBoingo: The big question this week is will the Bird that weighs 11 kilos clean and dressed thaw adequately by Thursday Morning.
BingoBoingo under the impression USG uses drug money to fund all of its porcelain as opposed to golden toilets
asciilifeform: at no point may the orcs have a leader who is not an active muppet.
BingoBoingo: Sure, they ship Afghani opium pretty much everywhere for refinement into heroin.
asciilifeform: then rebranded as a u.s. dept. of state 'dissidents need to plan their glorious democratic multi-coloured revolutions without interference from cruel orcish gestapos' gizmo.
BingoBoingo: Sure, but the Tor people hate bringing that up.
asciilifeform: it was (originally - and semi-publicly) spun as a 'our spies need to do their thing under the cloak of a river of shit traffic so here's this free service' gizmo
asciilifeform: tor project funding wasn't secret, either
BingoBoingo: This surprised, I guess the small number of anons who might not be from USG's vegetable garden
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: One of the tor devs drawing their USG funded paychecks was an operator of one of the "Anonymous" movement twitter accounts
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: tor drama << i don't get it. what, exactly, was the linked thing about ?
asciilifeform: ^ these folks need to invoice moscow for their orlov cheques.
babbys_first_bit: Why haven't the devs or the general userbase demanded we switch from BTC to micro BTC or whatever
BingoBoingo: There's ways they can run off with coins too
dignork: babbys_first_bit: they can.
babbys_first_bit: is blockchain.info the only online wallet where the website owners can't just run off with my coins
BingoBoingo: He prolly ate them. Maybe Jed from Ripple/Stellar/WTFBBQ stole them after he sold Gox to Karpeles. hard to know.
babbys_first_bit: so that fat fucker from mt. gox, do u think he stole everyones coins or were they just "lost"
babbys_first_bit: what happens to the channel if you automatically get to speak upon arrival
BingoBoingo: But there's two of them and they are in shape from all of that rowing at indistinguishable northeastern school. You on the other hand have baby in your IRC nick and infants suck at avoiding abduction.
babbys_first_bit: i think they'd go after the winkvoss twins bfore me
BingoBoingo: They insert soldering iron into a convenient opening and wait for it to heat up
BingoBoingo: But with yourself and a soldering iron someone might extract the paper's location
babbys_first_bit: I suppose unless I go around telling people IRL i've got a paper backup with my bitcoin wealth tied to it, nobody who happened to find it would even know what it meant. It's not like i wrote "ARMORY BACKUP FOR EXTREME BITCOIN WEALTH" on the backup
mike_c: if that bothers you, encrypt the paper wallet and then print it out.
mike_c: it's kinda the point
babbys_first_bit: I find it kind of odd how I'd need to use a USB stick combined with accessing my offline laptop with the password before I can send coins, yet if someone were to get my paper wallet and knew what those four letter words meant, they suddenly have the keys to the kingdom
mike_c: babbys_first_bit: the paper wallet gives access to coins sans password.
babbys_first_bit: Those paper wallet backups I made, if someone were to get a hold of them , and somehow know what they meant, could they steal my coins, or would they need my password?
BingoBoingo: Just make sure you can actually move them to an address you have sole control over
babbys_first_bit: these sub 400 coins, they're cheap right
The20YearIRCloud: Well, today we closed on another loan, putting the company back to a state with plenty o extra cash laying around.
babbys_first_bit: trilema and the convalex
BingoBoingo: What brings you around these parts
mats_cd03: 16:06:20 <+asciilifeform> in other news: usg's oceanic fiber tap catalogue apparently leaked. << link?
asciilifeform: in other news: usg's oceanic fiber tap catalogue apparently leaked.
mircea_popescu: in the same line, here's this extraspecial pair of glasses which removes clothes off women
BingoBoingo: Amazing the rather abvious shit people pass off as "research"
cazalla: BingoBoingo, hopefully it gets more traction in aus IT press, they love stuff stories like this
cazalla: fluffypony, the new male lead is no ian malcolm either
mircea_popescu: anyone bother actually read the pdf accompanying these tall claims ?
mircea_popescu: NAT. We also show that a natural countermeasure of using Tor or other anonymity services can be cut-off by abusing anti-DoS countermeasures of the bitcoin network. Our attacks require only a few machines and have been experimentally verified. We propose several countermeasures to mitigate these new attacks.
mircea_popescu: We present an efficient method to deanonymize Bitcoin users, which allows to link user pseudonyms to the IP addresses where the transactions are generated. Our techniques work for the most common and the most challenging scenario when users are behind NATs or firewalls of their ISPs. They allow to link transactions of a user behind a NAT and to distinguish connections and transactions of different users behind the same
fluffypony: cazalla: it just looks like a rehash of the first movie but with better CGI
asciilifeform: adlai: because that is the language in which fundamental research in computing continued, while in the west - died in 1950s.
assbot: Logged on 10-10-2014 04:18:11; asciilifeform: 1 of the 3 other monkeys, perhaps, knows russian (which imho is an absolute hard requirement for this particular stunt)
asciilifeform: 'Of course, this already happened: someone wrote a patch... in 2011... That said, the patch was rejected, and that's that. The bug lives on.'
BingoBoingo: * jurov *sniff* *sniff* << On the internet everyone is Dog
assbot: Social, economic, & intellectual aristocracies have an almost error free mechanism by which members can identify each other very rapidly.
assbot: Bitcoin Year-In-Review: The Price Went Down, So We Prepared For War | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1vJCE4q )
BingoBoingo: Who knows. It isn't like more than half of clear homicides get solved in the StL metro.
mats_cd03: more likely the driver got into an accident while attempting to kill a nuisance.
mats_cd03: the nature of the negligent discharge seems dubious
assbot: Op-Ed: Protester getting 'ready for Ferguson' shoots herself in the head ... ( http://bit.ly/1HEwsxJ )
mats_cd03: for whatever reason slate.com accepts left, right arrow keys as input changes the page...
BingoBoingo: Nice work cazalla www.thedomains.com/2014/11/25/bitcoin-com-au-sells-for-31200-as-owner-loses-the-domain-due-to-bad-registrant-info/
ben_vulpes: plus, i like to get out of the house.
ben_vulpes: mats_cd03: i run a consulting shop. far easier to get contributors to contribute/consult when there's an actual place to go.
ben_vulpes: 'Children’s need to be “stimulated, pushed and encouraged to take risks is as great as their need for stability and security,”' << merry go-rounds aren't a thing in the states any more, because children might get scraped up.
ben_vulpes puts fuel in the product arm of the biz in a vain attempt to survive the music stopping
mats_cd03: my bets are on the next five years
mats_cd03: aw, i fell asleep before all the activity
cazalla: looks like bitcoin conferences are moving onto blockchain conferences now lol http://latitude.global/ sponsored by ethereum
cazalla: not usually something i worry about but i am sure there will be a long line of people handing over coins for useless shit on black friday
cazalla: mircea_popescu, yes but i would prefer that random value be on the lower side either tmw or after black friday
mircea_popescu: all the scams with "margin" and 90% fake trade volume get to report a "price".
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> and im pretty sure isis is the first place with a serenissima embassy, for that matter. << this exists in point of fact? <<< not quite, no.
mircea_popescu: (moreover my point was that growing shit is taking care of the small problem, most of your energetic needs aren't "what to eat")
Vexual: im sure it will all sort out in the wash
cazalla: Vexual, perhaps new owner just uses it for email, there is no criteria stating he has to have a webpage
Vexual: yeah, ive read the annual
cazalla: so now he has to go to shareholders and tell them, at least i assume so
cazalla: well, he bought it for digital BTC, so technically the company owns it, or did, not him
Vexual: leaving 36k on the table might be a thing
cazalla: i wonder if zt will just buy back the domain from new owner
cazalla: another telstra scam by the looks of it, price is already under IPO on day one
Vexual: i thought they were supposed to float a few weeks back?
Vexual: but theres still this interface between the bitcoin pace and the asx or whatever
Vexual: they made some good moves
Vexual: although the model is quite nice
Vexual: i read the anual report tho
cazalla: i've dealt with the auDA fuck heads before, tried to take mah domains off me
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> <cazalla> bagels7: the beatings were way worse than any bdsm "master" i had <<< lol same << lol wait, bagels7 is into bdsm ? << the funny thing here is that *cazalla* is XD
decimation: I tried to use the deutsche welle app once, it crashed my phone
ben_vulpes: the RT iPhone app is a million times better than the WSJ's
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: i miss all the good logs.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> and im pretty sure isis is the first place with a serenissima embassy, for that matter. << this exists in point of fact?
undata: whatever the cheapest power plant is at the time will do
decimation: when communication between the outposts becomes cheap, a giant bureaucracy to 'coordinate' things suddenly seems redundant
decimation: yeah Jim has a point, it seems to me the Internet has a tendency to empower the periphery at the expense of the center
mircea_popescu: I am an American, but my children will be free citizens of the Net. They may reside in this country[22] or that, but their economic and social intercourse will effortlessly span the globe.
mircea_popescu: Wait for the day when citizens, incessantly polled by leaders trying to jump out in front of each passing parade, don't even bother answering the questions. "Do you feel that your group is going to get its fair share of the booty your elected representatives plan to pilfer from that group?" Get lost.
mircea_popescu: "The information revolution will transform the politics of power just as surely as the broadcast media did 70 years ago. Only this time, power will devolve back toward its sources, not inward toward demagogues seeking to gather it. The Net will subvert the centralized economic and social control mechanisms that allowed the great welfare-warfare states[33] of the 20th century to dominate our commerce, our psychic landsc
mircea_popescu: "Let Gingrich and Gore hail the arrival of the information superhighway that "the people" can use to talk back to our "leaders." Their illusive dream of "participatory democracy" will be short-lived.
decimation: yeah that's a good point. especially if some homeless laut is peddling a false hope in the corner over there
mircea_popescu: once it's fate is sealed, who can be bothered ? would you punish your children for misbehaving in a nuclear shelter ?
mircea_popescu: back when men still believed in the future of the entire construction, the effort and inclination to take children and wives over the knee can readily be summoned.
mircea_popescu: looky here, dying empires don't dampen the mob. that's a job for the earlier times.
decimation: I suppose these kinds of counterfactuals always factor down to 'should have killed private Schicklgruber'
decimation: mircea_popescu: as to our conversation a few days ago about what King Louis XVI could have done about the socialist uprising, perhaps one answer is that actual people everywhere have an interest in damping the enthusiasm of this kind of mob
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> try moving your only 1mil overseas, intact << if it makes you feel any better, when i left romania (the first time) i gave away large chunks of what otherwise'd been "wealth".
asciilifeform: aha i recall, kakobrekla has to manually pick the goodies every now and again from it
decimation: yeah, that's the trend for the past 200 years
undata: nah, just get more plastic shit on the shelves
decimation: asciilifeform: I wish usg took more of interest in raising quality rather than maximal extraction
Vexual: this is why theres some nutters floating around the indian ocean ex capetown
asciilifeform: only when its teat is empty of milk, and then the hide is emptied of skin, can there be any question of 'letting it go.' and even then, someone might like to tan your hide.
asciilifeform: but they all involve some kind of burn.
decimation: I bet problems like that one can be solved... by pay money to the right agents
assbot: PSA : If you're trying to escape the gravity well, you'll meet this on your way. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1yPDgCH )
asciilifeform: see also mircea_popescu's article 'on your way out of the gravity well, this awaits you'
decimation: at any rate, for folks with the skills, one can track most aircraft at will
asciilifeform: undata: generally folks with a liquid, detachable (!) 1mil usd - have considerably more that is left behind, like the early stages of a rocket
undata: head for the south pacific or something
decimation: eh, I bet orlov is more in the send rather than receive racket
decimation: you mentioned the 'radio in port' earlier, plus the south pole
Vexual: this reminds me of the first time i saw douglas mawson smiling back at me fron the $100 note
decimation: millions of times easier to do it there than in space
asciilifeform: i hear the last u.s. icebreaker has broken down.
decimation: unfortunately, there's not an 'american frontier' to emigrate to these days
asciilifeform: what can i say, not everybody gets to 'take the train out of berlin a day before everyone else'
undata: my selfish concern is that the goddamn american roof falls in before I've vacated the building.
undata: the news cycles on these things are heading towards the minutes-scale
assbot: Heavy Police Presence In Ferguson To Ensure Residents Adequately Provoked | The Onion - America's Finest News Source ... ( http://bit.ly/1yPBscU )
asciilifeform: plenty of would-be pilots for the wooden cargo-cult airplane.
Vexual: what do you like about living in the us asciilifeform?
decimation: the relative winners: africa, latin america, ocean, asia
decimation: "While 27 percent of migrating professionals among the sample group chose the U.S. as a destination in 2000, in 2012 just 13 percent did. The decline was seen across professionals with bachelor’s, master’s and doctoral degrees."
asciilifeform: or do they simply 'go gently into that good night' somehow
asciilifeform: undata: the folks 'who do not' - today - are they in a mob? what have they burned?
undata: I'd like to see what happens when they do not
asciilifeform: and others.
undata: or better stated, right now the protesters still have somewhere to go home to
assbot: Ludlow Massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1yPAoWu )
undata: you combine militarized police with a currency crisis, something of that nature, then maybe
Vexual: greeks throw some rocks, yell loug and go home to spill some souvlaki on their bear, let the givt think about it
asciilifeform: there was a time before 'well-trained masses' when actual 'pinkertons' has to man actual gatling guns to keep the mob in its proper street
undata: it's not so that the US never had actual protest
undata: asciilifeform: and hell, there were bombings back then
decimation: nor can they imagine anything else exists
asciilifeform: not the lizard quarters.
asciilifeform: 60s << there are swaths of dc, even, that are still 'berlin 1945'
Vexual: punkman could getin there and riot the pants off very fool in it
decimation: asciilifeform: if anything, this violence is quite unimpressive compared to the 60's
decimation: asciilifeform: as they say in dc, never waste a good crisis
mircea_popescu: the us wants to be like the uk! and pretend it can riot!
asciilifeform: the notion that a riot in modern usa can happen - and persist - 'naturally' - is horseshit of the first order.
mircea_popescu: <undata> the trend is as asciilifeform describes << how could it not be ? who the fuck ever heard of soviets in soviet russia.
undata: haven't heard a single person say "maybe the cop just lacked trigger discipline and was otherwise a coward"
Vexual: mircea_popescu: If this was planes landing fast in gotham, I could understand the excitement
undata: there's plenty you can't see, but he's just standing there yelling, then on the street dead
undata: there's video of this; I watched it. The guy didn't "charge"
decimation wasn't there, didn't see, can only witness the results
decimation: I guess the grand jury heard enough evidence either way
undata: decimation: the guy shouldn't have shot a guy for yelling at him
asciilifeform: the search box - is a disgrace.
Vexual: let the rioters decide
asciilifeform: in the end, gendarmerie 'democratizer' baton will roger black and white alike
decimation: only the 'national guard of the people' can be entrusted with the revolution
undata: the trend is as asciilifeform describes
cazalla: i mean really, the shop owner who he stole from should've done what the cop did
undata: cazalla: I don't care about the individual
cazalla: undata, why the sympathy for a nignog that got what he deserved?
asciilifeform: as is the plan.
undata: decimation: as someone said above, the rules of engagement in afghanistan were stricter
decimation: undata: what weight do you lend to the fact that the guy was a thug who just finished robbing a store?
undata: the cognitive dissonance is the thought that a government that has made its *business* killing innocents would protect some guy gunned down in its own streets
asciilifeform: the mob riots at lizard hitler's pleasure, for his purposes.
asciilifeform: anyone who thinks this is a 'popular grievance' thing - how many u.s. folks were fucked over in real estate, other chumpatrons? how many of the perpetrators burned?
undata: this government kills people around the world with flying robots
undata: there's serious cognitive dissonance here
nubbins`: it's crazier than the one on jd
nubbins`: apparently the flag isn't supposed to be used as a bandana
asciilifeform is also familiar with the set of people who are paid to hunt all day, every day, for new 'outrages' of the kind required to set up 'a ferguson'
assbot: LIVE: Reaction on the streets of Ferguson to Grand Jury Decision - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1yPwhtq )
nubbins`: Fergudishu holy fuck there's a trollbox?!?!
mircea_popescu: i thought obama was the only symbol america needed.
undata: attacking the symbols of merica
decimation: it's traditional that the businesses that cater to the ghetto are the first ones visited with destruction
BingoBoingo: Police seem more concerned with the Walgreens though
mircea_popescu: rarely they do, but that's ok, because rarely people are worth bothering with
decimation: asciilifeform: this is a set-peice opera, with each side playing their part
mircea_popescu: decimation noi lol, generally they don't.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if the rats set fire to the lab, what'd you expect they'd burn ? the cages or the files ?
decimation: mircea_popescu: yeah, generally people tend to appreciate people who upset their worldview
nubbins`: leave wendy's until they get rid of the pretzel burge
asciilifeform: funny how nothing but the designated 'kindling' is ever burned up in u.s. riots.
mircea_popescu: decimation this is true, and you can diagnose it in adults by their reaction to minor destabilisation.
decimation: "During rough-and-tumble play like this, fathers tend to use playful teasing to “destabilize children both emotionally and cognitively,” which children like—despite the seemingly ominous implications of the word “destabilizing.”"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: mechanism is observable in rats and other rodents (where, iirc, sex ratios skew towards males in lean times)
BingoBoingo: Walgreens is now on fire, guessing they already took all of the cool drugs
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, im not quoting the blather.
mircea_popescu: the mechanism is quite simple : if the males are absent the population is under threat and it must be supported biologically.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the quoted explaination is nonsense.
mircea_popescu: single mothers raise sluts? who knew!
mircea_popescu: . “Researchers have revealed a robust association between father absence—both physical and psychological—and accelerated reproductive development and sexual risk-taking in daughters,”
mircea_popescu: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/ << research that mothers are boring and ineffectual childcarers. and other stuff.
nubbins`: mp srsly there's a cop on the radio giving updates on him

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