cazalla: xanthyos, i dunno about you but if i hear a knock at the door, i cbf even going to see who it is let alone stand there an argue for 15m
xanthyos: they were unwelcome at my place at dawn when i was awake for a few days
xanthyos: they were free to leave at any point cazalla
hanbot: lol turns out the evidence was bogus?
xanthyos: amazing how you can assess the statists immediately when you are keenly focused on the specific way their propaganda softens them
xanthyos: i figured out this wally guy in the chat was a bootlicking submissive british male immediately
cazalla: xanthyos, those cops are standing around like they don't even wanna deal with your shit
xanthyos: his name is Dylan Wardwell of Waterford, Connecticut. the cops shared his dox with me so they're public on this statist narc
xanthyos: when a firend of friend on facebook sent them beacuse "afk = dead" when someone's talking about depression to a stranger, apparently.
cazalla: unless perhaps trained in the mircea_popescu school of disarming police officers
xanthyos: i was awake for several days before they showed up
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xanthyos: NOW THE WORLD CAN KNOW MY TRAUMA
mircea_popescu: LURKERSGTFO you got something you wanna share with the group ?
xanthyos: NOT IN THE LEAST INTOXICATED
cazalla: yeah, in the same way some might read mircea as mersaya
mircea_popescu: am i the only one reading xanthyos as "shanty-os", as in you know, temple-os before it became a temple ?
BingoBoingo: jurov: Sure it is, but always interesting to see these things again
assbot: /hashtag/US?src=hash demonstrates sham care for protesters in other countries but uses force at home http://t.co/77HsUgI2lt /hashtag/Ferguson?src=hash http://t.co/PlZ1gGptjA
jurov: 3. there is no way to reverse a virtual currency transaction
jurov: lol they even explain how virtual currencies are risky for transacting business
mircea_popescu: maybe it should be a rule, "you can't run with the cool kids until you e-murder someone"
mircea_popescu: which is why whenever anyone asks me, i killed andreas whatshisname. got the link to prove it too.
mircea_popescu: hey, the libtards want to make a mockery of rape, murder and everything else, i'm more than happy to oblige.
cazalla: so.. banned from twitter for sending "violent threats" of which i did not do lol, and people wonder why others stick to irc
asciilifeform: whether this counts as 'engineering' - matter of taste.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what he did was snip out most of the amp. at the time, most tv owners lived in or very near cities, with powerful transmitters. hence - worked. mostly.
mircea_popescu: fast forward 50 years later, even the president is a pretentiously dressed-up monkey.
mircea_popescu: back in the 60s, even clowns in napoleon costumes were accomplished engineers.
mod6: or thereabouts
mircea_popescu goes to read 2011 pms about his "new thing" at the time.
ben_vulpes: i don't think i was persistently logging when i first showed up either
mircea_popescu: Apr 05 22:50:39 {Cusipzzz} i, for one, welcome our stable bitcoin overlords << from the logs ben_vulpes never saw
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Google | Google. The holy mother of all search engines. Is the most efficient, and reliable search engines. Can generate a few million results within a fraction of a second.
ben_vulpes: implying i could *not* buy the thing in question, whatever it is
ben_vulpes: i'm amused at the every 2 minute "all of our representatives are on the line with other customers" spiel
mircea_popescu: give yourself a deduction for the phone charge ?
ben_vulpes: i have officially been on hold with the irs for an hour to get a number necessary to open their payment backend
mircea_popescu: (which is a very common deprecatory, calling someone "the son of cock" is like saying he'll be inheriting the kingdom of heaven)
mircea_popescu: awww missed the huyportunity ?!
mircea_popescu: i guess i'm going to take a moment to pangloss all over myself, because imagine this! we live in the best world possible : just as the muntzing of the world is necessary, the collapse of the political is unavoidable.
asciilifeform: variant on the ancient 'things should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the part where it concludes "but it shouldn't" is under dispute here.
mircea_popescu: Well, doggone, the picture was still there! Then he would study the schematic some more, and SNIP... SNIP... SNIP. Muntz had made a good guess of how to simplify and cheapen the circuit. Then, usually, he would make one SNIP too many, and the picture or the sound would stop working. He would concede to the designer, "Well, I guess you have to put that last part back in,"
mircea_popescu: After a short discussion, Earl would say, "But, you seem to be over-engineering this - I don't think you need this capacitor." He would reach out with his handy nippers (insulated) that he always carried in his shirt-pocket, and snip out the capacitor in question.
mircea_popescu: The story around the industry was that he would wander around to an engineer's workbench and ask, "How's your new circuit coming?"
asciilifeform: i'm no great fan of what he did. but the basic act (if not the result) deserves remembering.
mircea_popescu: which i decried as the evil that it is earlier.
mircea_popescu: he's an early exponent of the "80% of service with 20% of cost and try for 50% of price" thing,
mircea_popescu: nah, this doesn't actually work. i recall this guy, the salesman dude. this isn't what's happening here.
mircea_popescu: anyway. yes. muntzing is the correct debugging approach.
asciilifeform: i learned of the man from locklin, incidentally
mircea_popescu: the benefits of ignorance, i get to feel nine years old again :D
mircea_popescu: ie, altogether.
mircea_popescu: the problem is that in any current shitstack, if you cut ANYTHING out it "stops working".
mircea_popescu: "when in doubt, dike it out". this is the golden rule of all computer programming. logically, interfering with it is then evil.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, i think i may have made a breakthrough here. your idea of a "program that fits in head" and my displeasure at the backwards way linux has been going have a common spot.
mircea_popescu: and yes, one of the many different reasons bayesianism is little more than "a cult of ai without moon or minsky aka stupid"
mircea_popescu: clearly, it's because sexism in the industry o.O
asciilifeform: 'We can rebuild him. We have the technology. We can make him better than he was. Better...stronger...faster.' - 'the six million dollar man'
mircea_popescu: aww seems so. dude the curse of #b-a. "say something stupid in some trade rag, they'll find a... better you ?"
mircea_popescu: well i guess if you're 15 in the 70s it's a reasonable reason to be buying z80s
xanthyos: commodore vic 20 came out in 1980, so it was between the motion picture and the wrath of khan. shatner was a big deal.
TomServo: From Hess' bio on zdnet: His first computer was a Commodore VIC-20, which he purchased because William Shatner was in the commercials.
mircea_popescu: the perfect age to be stupid re what things are, whatthey mean and what to trust. locklin's their model.
mircea_popescu: no, but it bothered his employer.
punkman: BingoBoingo: who the fuck is this ken hess character
asciilifeform: it's the andi-flood noobs pill << before long, we'll be hooking up elizas to mask decoys from the enemy. and then folks will start... talking to them
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> Hello ratpoison, is your nick in honor of the excellet window manager of the same name? << it's the andi-flood noobs pill kako made
xanthyos: if i write 7714ad25 along the side of my penis and take a picture that shows the numbers and the stitches you'l send me .1?
xanthyos: i'm seeing the urologist in a week. wonder what he'd comment if i had hex sharpied on it
jurov: ben_vulpes: best make him write hex string on the dick and give him 0.1btc for the trouble :)
xanthyos: why does it say i'm not authenticated?
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xanthyos: climbing the social ladder
xanthyos: but if you want the pic it's better to settle in btc
ben_vulpes: actually upon consideration this is an abuse of the rating system.
xanthyos: i don't know if i should accept those terms as a picture will not increase the amount of trust you should have for me
mats_cd03: show me the dong
xanthyos: i'll do a webcam show with the bandaid and gauze off for .1
xanthyos: ben_vulpes: do i get a positive rating for a post-op pic with stitches around the glans
BingoBoingo remembers ben_vulpes flapping his hands over the matter
ben_vulpes: you'll note the absence of an actual negrating :p
xanthyos: i stopped taking the pain meds so i could end a week-long constipation
BingoBoingo: Maybe ben_vulpes is just into the gore of it?
xanthyos: i showed the G rated pics of me in a hospital bed
BingoBoingo: Well ben_vulpes trusts danielpbarron, maybe he does so in a way that allows him to believe danielpbarron's testimony that the pictures exist.
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xanthyos: <gribble> Sent 10 hours ago: <ben_vulpes> until you share those photos you're a goddamn scammer << i haven't asked for any money. the pictures are aplenty on my twitter account. you need +3 trust in my L1 to read my tweets
nubbins`: less than 100 if the vanity plates are any indication
nubbins`: call signs here follow the format V01xx
nubbins`: the metallic inks are difficult to photograph in a way that does them justice, but this is as good an approximation as i can get with a phone camera
BingoBoingo: Hello ratpoison, is your nick in honor of the excellet window manager of the same name?
nubbins`: FINALLY finished these covers
bagels7: a lot of the hoodrats downtown are assoiated so they probably know each other on some personal level
bagels7: but I doubt I will be falling asleep on some guys mattress while he brings a girl over and she robs me the 5 minutes he is gone. I had my phone beside me waiting for a call
bagels7: azelphur: thanks for the rooting advice if I ever get an android
mircea_popescu: Azelphur so you know when to run ? "dude that stole my phone is around the corner gtg bye" ?
Azelphur: so if a thief does the normal thing of replacing the SIM card and factory resetting, then turns it back on again...you can still track it :)
bagels7: well if I count all the times i got ripped off buying drugs...
mircea_popescu: even so. most people live their entire lives without fucking 100 times. let alone being mugged for crying out loud.
Azelphur: bagels7: if you have an android device and root it, it'll embed itself inside the firmware and let you track the phone
mircea_popescu: for the 97.6% statistic you need 125 attempts and 122 successes
nubbins`: two eighteenths of the time?
bagels7: hundred dollars here and there, one time my whole rent... yeah it's more like 2/18
Azelphur: Racism: All black people are thieves, Not racism: 97.6% of the times I was robbed was by black people (Assuming it's an accurate statistic, which it isn't)
Azelphur: bagels7: I've always said there's a difference between racism and statistics, people have so much trouble differentiating
bagels7: half the time was from "friends", is that what i get for being a whitey
bagels7: when I go downtown I basically risk being stabbed or once i got robbed by this woman and 15 black guys, 97.6% of the times i was robbed was by black people. can I be racist now
mircea_popescu: funny how the "for your own protection" verbiage appeals to a particular sort of derp.
bagels7: [09:37] <mandycandy> you have chosen this path, now face the consequences :) for your own good, do not step into #bitcoin-assets again because you do not know what some participants are involved in <<<< some hacker, with the patience of a two year old
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
bagels7: Yeah, my job bothers me sometimes when people ask me for affection instead of something tyical
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> dpb bringing all the normals in << srsly.
nubbins`: i believe i'm going to lay down some speedball acrylic white on these book covers
bagels7: I believe in mara the demon that temps people with beautiful women due to real life experiences. The demon that leads people away from spiritual matters by distracting them with sex
nubbins`: i may replace the tubes in my exposure unit today
gribble: Frankenpenis (Video 1996) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0140058/>; The Frankenpenis - The Frisky: <http://www.thefrisky.com/photos/the-top-10-most-amazing-penises/amazing-penis-g8-jpg/>; frankenpenis - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzQ2MI082MU>
nubbins`: dpb bringing all the normals in
adlai: interesting wot ratings there
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mircea_popescu: imagine she got them in a war with her own ugliness, then they're just as respectable as w/e scars you might get fighting for isis.
nubbins`: the best good decisions are not the ones where you slice your tits open from the nipple downwards, stuff them full of window caulking, and sew em back up?
adlai: the worst poor decisions are those made on your behalf before you're born
mircea_popescu: adlai you don't understand. there's some standard items involved.
adlai: if we're discussing the process itself, sure, talk about the delta. but if you're discussing the result, it seems more germane to discuss the result
mircea_popescu: well, they're basically "classic" and "high profile". you can prolly fill in.
bagels7: [07:53] <+mircea_popescu> didja get 600 cc boob implants ? << No, it;s not in the plans
adlai: who the fuck measures implants by volume
mircea_popescu: THAT is the middle nao. imagine, a century ago that middle was maybe... two per million ?
saifedean: alright guys, it was fun but i have to go to lift and eat and do things with my life... do check out the Antony Sutton book I mentioned, you will not be disappointed!
mircea_popescu: "decided to go in the middle and get 550cc high profile"
adlai: it's supposed to stop the continued indoctrination of the sponge-minded masses, because regulation always works perfectly the first time and never starts an arms race of circumvention
fluffypony: it's all the rage
mircea_popescu: adlai so then what's that law suppost to do ?
adlai: at least, not among the vast majority of my irl contacts. people seem pretty aware and accepting of / resigned to the system
mircea_popescu: adlai the people that purport to make a law to prevent a rich guy from buying the government one bum at a time.
bagels7: I would rather not value myself by voluptuousness or temporal looks
adlai is not aware of either such thing existing
mircea_popescu: nubbins` why ? good driver doesn't use the brakes.
mircea_popescu: adlai i find the pretense of the israeli middle class so amusing. AS IF they being exceptional, they'll manage to keep teh gawker.il at bay.
mircea_popescu: what do you prioritize in cars, that the brakes don't work or that the engine doesn';t work ?
adlai: problem is, this law doesn't kill newspapers, it just adds a few legal hurdles which likely make it harder for "legitimate" actors but are easily avoided by the propaganda machine
saifedean: what is the point of life if not for trade-offs!
mircea_popescu: tall voluptuous was the standard.
saifedean: i'd much rather a voluptuous shorty than a tall surfboard
adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-11-2014#935763 < I like that one, because it can be extended to all crap papers... any litterpaper is the responsibility of the entity that published the litter
mircea_popescu: saifedean if she's 1.80 or above she can wear heels so she can look you in the eye.
saifedean: i don't find height to be important for women, she's not a ladder... what matters most is the hip-to-waist ration, followed by the size of the breasts and lips... the rest is details
nubbins`: the ideal woman should be able to demolish a brick wall of approx. 2 meter height, with bare hands
mircea_popescu: nubbins` that's like the epitome of brutish lmao
adlai: mircea_popescu: freedom of "speech"... does this include the right to spend incredible wealth subsidizing propaganda rags that are killing the an already-dying business? (dead tree newspapers)
mircea_popescu: bagels7 kinda the point.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` 1.80 is the 71 inches minimum height of a sexy woman.
assbot: Everything you need to know about the Israel Hayom (or anti-Sheldon Adelson) law - National Israel News | Haaretz ... ( http://bit.ly/1uGzwz4 )
nubbins`: such is the curse of the canadian, living under a system of conflicting measurement systems
mircea_popescu: adlai so what's the problem here ?
adlai: it's a little subtler than that, but that's the general gist
adlai: tl;dr: tycoon has a freely distributed "news"paper that gets handed out by the formerly homeless at bus and train stations... and now there's a bill passing through parliament to outlaw subscription-free distribution of newspapers
adlai is trying to find a commentary on this issue written in english, rather than google translate of hebrew articles
mircea_popescu: heh. i imagine the porn based on this will last forever.
mircea_popescu: Speaking of Yazidi women captured by ISIS, Nazand Begikhani said, "These women have been treated like cattle... They have been subjected to physical and sexual violence, including systematic rape and sex slavery. They've been exposed in markets in Mosul and in Raqqa, Syria, carrying price tags."
adlai: mircea_popescu: well then, time to get serious, and demand of your personal media megaphone that it host denser content than mere snarky commentary :)
saifedean: well, the tragedy is that the people who think they are putting up the fight are in fact the first line of attack of the enemies they imagine
mircea_popescu: saifedean the world doesn't seem to have been putting up that much of a fight, mind.
saifedean: how else could china turn into the west's dirty workshop, but through first burning its society with socialism
saifedean: absolutely, this is the century of the useful idiots, and there are no idiots more useful than the socialist scum that has destroyed the world
assbot: Logged on 26-11-2014 12:13:23; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: qntra << lol, it's almost at the level of my own obscure site now. << actually, alexa thinks it's bigger. http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/qntra.net http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/loper-os.org for what (very little) that's worth.
adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-11-2014#935678 << since when does "more popular [among http clients]" imply "[above] the level of"?
saifedean: the twentieth century was the century of spreading this model worldwide, burning all other human civilizations with the fatal acid of socialism, destroying their culture, society, religion and traditions, and then bringing in modern liberal democracy and its fiat central banks and IMF membership
saifedean: And here's an interview with the author: www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD_cJXOjYl8
saifedean: full book available here: http://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutton_Wall_Street_and_the_bolshevik_revolution-5.pdf
saifedean: this is the 'Bruce Willis was dead all along" a-ha moment of twentieth century history. The Bolsheviks simply worked for the British and American banks, to bring down the Romanovs and destroy Russia
mircea_popescu: i think the pernicious influence of british "ideas" is well understood here lol.
saifedean: if you folks haven't, you must check out the work of Antony Sutton, particularly about the Bolshevik Revolution
saifedean: then the british decided to rule the world and found that spreading socialism and democracy is the ideal way to do so... first, give foreigners glorious revolution, then rule over the rubble
mircea_popescu: i dunno. the larger parts of isis are not actually nationally represented in the extant european-sponsored map of the region.
mircea_popescu: to me it just looks like normal nationbuilding. same shit that happened in yugoslavia. same shit really that happened in every nation, except the westerners were quicker with it.
saifedean: for all the scaremongering about the evils of isis, they are still a tiny little sliver of what the glorious socialist regime of syria has achieved
saifedean: my theory of isis is that they're better understood not as islamic fundamentalists, but as a byproduct of a socialist regime and diversity
saifedean: I did register the name but the folks at freenode kept telling me a cloak wont work from webchat...
mircea_popescu: anyway, it should work from webchat just as well, provided you've registered the name.
mircea_popescu: lol the blessings of technology
saifedean: i tried getting a cloak, but it doesnt work from webchat. I downloaded two irc clients, but neither of them really works for whatever reason
mircea_popescu: told you to get a cloak like 5x. this'd be the sort of reason why.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: qntra << lol, it's almost at the level of my own obscure site now. << actually, alexa thinks it's bigger. http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/qntra.net http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/loper-os.org for what (very little) that's worth.
saifedean: we need to have a proper grilling discussion over fire... possible in the next 2 months if i manage to swing by BA
saifedean: yes, but with good grilling techniques, you don't need the dough... you're in argentina, get someone to build you a proper chulengo
mircea_popescu: (local lout came up with "o, this is basically liver calzone, except the dough's crumblier". the ignorance i have to put up with!(
mircea_popescu: hey there.
adlai: truthcoin is a terrible name for his project, it sounds like a coin for 9/11 truthers
adlai: sidechains aren't an altcoin, they're just a way to burn bitcoin faster
fluffypony: I wrote about the three main things we bounced around a couple of Missives ago
fluffypony: lots of interesting stuff on the boil
fluffypony: punkman: we had a mini conference when I was in the USA
punkman: fluffypony: anything going on in the secret monero research labs?
adlai: it'd be nice to compare those graphs between the dead (samecoin?) and dying (gonero?)
assbot: Altcoins Aren't Money, They're Bitcoin's Casino | Truthcoin: Trustless P2P Prediction Marketplace ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cf975C )
adlai: http://www.truthcoin.info/blog/altcoins-are-not-coins/ <- somebody (obviously not me, ain't nobody got time for this) should back this up with some of them colorful utxo age "info"graphics
adlai: discuss: who is further afield, xahlee or losethos?
ben_vulpes refuses the bait
mircea_popescu: my logs didn't get included in there because i only log when im on obviously, and that's kinda hole-y.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: well where are yours then?
mircea_popescu: from what i recall mthreat had an open call for logs, got something, and that's what's up there.
mircea_popescu: lol turns out asciilifeform is more responsible for the cult than i.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ah shit that was the am link
ben_vulpes: can't quite agree that programmering is any worse than laboring on/in the production lines though.
ben_vulpes: gotta say, set me up well for the drudgery of programming.
ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> asciilifeform: Now that I've realized it some months ago I can't forget stumbling into loper well before stumbling into BTC << myself as well, but on the topics of lisp
assbot: Logged on 03-07-2013 19:32:03; mircea_popescu: the jig is up!
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> dat feel when you start seeing your own lines in the log from today << srsly.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell decimation please for to explain to retards like me "asciilifeform: yeah, that plus usg has generally used the power of printed dollars to make it such that most people don't pay taxes, making compliance a non-issue"
ben_vulpes: <decimation> asciilifeform: yeah, that plus usg has generally used the power of printed dollars to make it such that most people don't pay taxes, making compliance a non-issue << wat
ben_vulpes: dat feel when you start seeing your own lines in the log from today
ben_vulpes: seriously how do you fuckers keep up with these heavy days
mircea_popescu: proceed from a folk paradigm, you're a trubadour of the 1300s. edit that bitch. retell it.
mircea_popescu: good approach to keeping a blog these days : edit mass culture.
mircea_popescu: ." << this is like the power of the press. it's "impossible to edit" for as long as you're not editing it.
mircea_popescu: "Another example: the replacement of folk culture (decentralized/distributed, varying and variable, illegible to bureaucracies, difficult to control) with mass culture (centralized, impossible to edit, bureaucratic, easy to control) less effortful and allowing for much higher production values and potentially much more talent, but in practice, buying in tends to mean letting your enemies put thoughts into your head
mircea_popescu: the romans "conquered" the greeks and then a century later the toga was replaced by greek habits. herpity derp.
ben_vulpes: oh and just who is fred then?