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asciilifeform: decimation: will reflow in the equipment i have with very rough time curves and minimal damage to components.
decimation: asciilifeform: is that the 'most reliable' alloy?
assbot: Whisker (metallurgy) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1vuwJ1r )
asciilifeform: some of the early crays were in fact wire-wrapped.
asciilifeform: less-than-perfect wire wrapping was the doom of many an amateur digital gizmo
decimation: Vexual: wire wrapping is for you then
decimation: asciilifeform: did they do much wire wrap?
assbot: Mom Your Man Paid Me For Sex (The Jerry Springer Show) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1vSEih6 )
assbot: I Had Sex With Your Mama (The Jerry Springer Show) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1vSE4Xg )
asciilifeform: ^ example of another
asciilifeform: it was all hand - or, at the most l33t factories - wave - solder.
asciilifeform: afaik ussr did not churn out 'surface mount' process until the very end years.
asciilifeform: the staggered pins
asciilifeform: the physical package is typical of the culture
asciilifeform: my elder brother learned to program on these.
Vexual: the dog and the banknote
mircea_popescu: it's not that far off from the truth.
ben_vulpes: love even more buying them with pesos.
empyex: mircea_popescu: Next conference starts in 4 months and 12 days. Estimated cost today: 3.55699272 BTC (Details: http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/ )
decimation: mackay kind of revived gallager's work in the 60's with ldpc codes
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: mouthed an insult at his royal highness ?
ben_vulpes: well, someone with the face plastered everywhere.
asciilifeform: ^ the article in question
assbot: ethereum blog | Secret Sharing and Erasure Coding: A Guide for the Aspiring Dropbox Decentralizer - ethereum blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1vSAtIw )
asciilifeform was lying in bed, delirious, and switched on a tablet toy, wanted to read about erasure codes to take mind off snot. and found an article with colourful pictures, sorta explaining one kind. and with horror saw the author:
asciilifeform: what other ways is it capable of failing in
mod6: first make it work, then we make it pretty
ben_vulpes: an 0.5.3 that needs a kick in the ass a few times a day but can still catch up to chainhead trumps a power ranger hardfork with no published and serenissima-signed alternative.
mod6: first, we just wanted to bypass the wedge block so we can catch up to the main chain.
mod6: well, aside from that, i think the goal is still to rip out BDB eventually anyway.
ben_vulpes: there are worse things in the world than restarting the thing occasionally while work proceeds.
ben_vulpes: i stopped it at 251442 to snapshot the db, and again at 260*** (something) to provide resources to transfer the blockchain bzip elsewhere
assbot: Berkeley DB Reference Guide: Configuring locking: sizing the system ... ( http://bit.ly/1vSzEQ9 )
asciilifeform: did not exhaust memory either ?
ben_vulpes: the BDB docs themselves say to experiment with the lock number until it works
asciilifeform: happily chugging with or without manually masturbated along the way?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: speed of sound - no. synthetic bird, insect - sure.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i've an 0.5.3 that's happily chugging along with the new db config vals.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: can't really see anything like that working anywhere near the speed of sound.
decimation: asciilifeform: it would be interesting to see how much heat is lost in the cable flex movement
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: dragonfly << consider waveguide motor. precisely the missing ingredient for practical ornithopter with fully-articulated wings.
mircea_popescu: you know the dragonfly is 90% eye right ?
decimation: or 'jet-a' in the civilian world
assbot: JP-4 (fuel) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1vSy40E )
decimation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JP-4_(fuel) << "JP-4 was a non-conductive liquid, prone to build up static electricity when being moved through pipes and tanks. As it is volatile and has a low flash point, the static discharge could cause a fire. Beginning in the the mid-1980s an antistatic agent was added to the fuel to lower the charge buildup and decrease the corresponding risk of fires. Flow rates must be controlled, and all the
mircea_popescu: isn't jp-4 the thing that gets a lot of static if it flows ?
asciilifeform: normally english folks call them hovercraft also.
assbot: Lun-class ekranoplan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1vSxlMN )
decimation: asciilifeform: no, jets the fly just a few feet above the ground - ekranoplan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lun-class_ekranoplan
BingoBoingo: I'll still have to insist on minimum hours/retainer/compensation from suffering the cold north of Chicago
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: If they ask again.
decimation: asciilifeform: the soviets had a line of 'ground effect' aircraft if I recall
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo so 140 then
mircea_popescu: nuts the bezzle world.
mircea_popescu: On average, experts charge significantly more for their time while testifying at trial and deposition than their time while conducting file reviews and preparing. The average hourly fee for all experts was $385 for in-court testimony, $353 for depositions and $254 for file reviews and preparation. The average hourly fee for trial testimony is 52% higher than the average hourly fee for file reviews and preparation.
decimation: asciilifeform: the post-wwii era was full of weird vtol designs http://airandspace.si.edu/collections/artifact.cfm?object=nasm_A19730274000
BingoBoingo: 125 seems the minimum for non-medical with self respect
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: So, a lawyer is inquiring what my hourly rate is as an expert witness... What does everyone else charge? << go for 40. too low you won't seem that expert. too high they'll just get antonoderp.
mircea_popescu: the sort you can't do anything with but that's ok.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform:they almost certainly laboured under an illusion of one kind or another. << that illusion is "money"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: there. <<< heh.
decimation: but then again, it's not like flying wings are unknown to aircraft designers. I wonder why they aren't more popular
BingoBoingo: And per diem is essential too, because if I'm going to chicago I'm not staying in a fucking Motel 8. I'm staying in the Sheraton, as a professional.
BingoBoingo: If I'm an expert I ought to be making more than the lawyers when I read and talk.
ben_vulpes: decimation: bang bang pneumatic valves aren't terribly hard to put together.
decimation: other than the retainer that's pretty much in line for a qualified professional
decimation: asciilifeform: note, there's not any external gimbaled camera
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: that's the only kinda vtol that'll work
decimation: no but the thrust control would be complicated
ben_vulpes: (almost needless to say that the vectoring needs to go in both directions)
ben_vulpes: so long as it has ducted thrust at the tips of both the long axis and short axis, you can arbitrarily dictate its angle of attack.
decimation: ben_vulpes: would the diamond shape generate much lift?
ben_vulpes: decimation: not a "thrust reverser": flip the whole beast around its long axis
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: answer then (i haven't any idea) - why is 'vtol' uncommon today ?
decimation: isn't that kinda what the f-117 does
ben_vulpes: two turbines aligned perpendicular to the long axis, with vent outputs from the turbines outputs all the way out at the tips of the diamond.
decimation: well, ultimately you could build a rocket that propels you to the high altitude winds of the stratosphere and unfolds massive delicate wings
ben_vulpes: decimation: that's why i've always advocated going straight up with jets and then drifting sideways for as long as possible
assbot: Logged on 26-01-2014 19:43:38; asciilifeform: for instance, they see their country as having 'sat for the same exam' as the ussr, and passed, while the latter flunked.
Vexual: fair answer, they weren't expecting it
Vexual: asciilifeform: is it beacuse they didn't have swarms of irritant devlivery drones?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: indignant (spontaneously or compensated, either) foreigners asked, 'why didn't you tase them, use tear gas'
decimation: kinda like the 'osprey'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: are you familiar with china's reply to 'why did you roll up the (tiananmen) students (molotov-armed, by some reliable accounts - also with grenades) with tanks ?'
ben_vulpes: decimation: it'd have to have the controller onboard.
ben_vulpes: 2 turbines perpendicular to long axis, with piping adequate to vector the thing around any of its axes.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Tase is part of why the UNHCR is shitting on USG atm
decimation: if the camera has automatic gimble, it hardly matters if the craft is stationary
asciilifeform: at any rate, once there are sufficiently many surplus rotating wing drones, they will be written off and handed to city police depts
decimation: the gang can absorb many at a time
decimation: maryland is famous for having speed traps where a whole gang of cops wait - bravely stepping into the roadway and flagging speeders
asciilifeform: everything with cops on the ground
decimation: or if they do, it's usually in cooperation with cops on the ground
decimation: eh, my impression is that they don't enforce traffic from the air much
asciilifeform: don't forget the traffic jobs.
decimation: asciilifeform: my impression upon listening to police helicopter chatter is tha a majority of the calls for a helicopter come when either a kid wonders off or some perp tries to run from the po-lice
Vexual: they'd be good at atms
asciilifeform: when they stop bothering to make arrests.
decimation: yeah, that's like the little bird
asciilifeform: police choppers don't shoot. (why would they need to ?)
assbot: MD Helicopters MH-6 Little Bird - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1vucCjQ )
asciilifeform: small general-purpose choppers with thermovisors.
asciilifeform: they aren't getting 'apache', no.
decimation: plus I thought they were getting busted down old war birds
asciilifeform: as the police choppermeister where i live cheerfully admitted during a public show&tell.
asciilifeform: maintenance on those helicopters alone would run easily a couple mil per year << lol maintenance. they get brand new ones.
BingoBoingo: The hassel of going to Chicago is expensive
assbot: The Pentagon Finally Details its Weapons-for-Cops Giveaway | Muckrock ... ( http://bit.ly/1vubnRN )
decimation: lol https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2014/dec/04/pentagon-finally-details-its-weapons-cops-giveaway/ << "Since 2006, police in Winthrop Harbor, Ill., a village of 6,700 along the shore of Lake Michigan, has received 10 helicopters, one mine-resistant armored vehicle and two Humvees, and other equipment, worth more than $6.5 million."
Vexual: bout 180 should slot you in politely between the photocopier kid and the big boys
assbot: Logged on 03-12-2014 00:37:16; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: because the whole disk-ram dichotomy is predicated on volatile ram.
decimation: well, the whole thing is going to be shot in the head when high speed non-volatile memory is common
decimation: the only feature on the list of improvements that I find remotely appealing is the fdisk tool
BingoBoingo: I dunno that there's a better reason at all.
asciilifeform: the purpose of throwing sunlight down upon these creatures of the abyss, is - aside from flondoring - to warn the next set.
BingoBoingo: I think the entire point of the OpenBSD financial crisis was an allergy to strings
asciilifeform: they almost certainly laboured under an illusion of one kind or another.
asciilifeform: i doubt that the openbsd devs were so direly impoverished that they agreed to serve enemy, knowing what he was
asciilifeform: while we're on the subject,
asciilifeform: the thing that shitgnomes fear most is - sunlight.
BingoBoingo: Right, and they want to kill big kernel lock, upon which I dunno you can build security.
asciilifeform: notice that the perps ring all the typical 'leper's bells' of poetteringism.
asciilifeform: cisions, they are now gone from OpenBSD. And now they miss it. So now, all these guys who work for the same company have started a fork. And it is directed by the guy who hired them in the first place. From where I stand, that is the truth. Yet none of that is in that article, because the truth hurts, doesn't it guys?"
asciilifeform: d with such terms and conditions, they became more scarce in OpenBSD --perhaps because they suddenly got real busy with work, but also to avoid telling others that this was happening. Various projects lagged. To avoid telling a lie, they instead chose to not tell the truth. It had effects. It was dishonest of them to not tell their co-developers that they were creating vacuums in the development process. So because of those de
asciilifeform: lopers in a sneaky and underhanded way. They were told, oh i forget they were "asked", to not tell anyone else in OpenBSD that this was happening, probably because people "including Theo" would be upset. Funny thing is, I've never been upset about the 20+ OpenBSD and ex-OpenBSD developers who now work for google. Previously, many of those developers were in critical positions in the development team. As they were suddenly hire
asciilifeform: There was a discussion about this on the OpenBSD misc mailing archives back in 2012: http://marc.info/?t=133961305400003&r=1&w=2 Theo's initial response to the thread, which may help illuminate the situation, was: "Except for the fact that it is bullshit. They started the fork because they got kicked out because one developer (Marco) hired 5 other developers for his startup company, and attempted to hire around 10 other deve
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: their purpose was to destroy the original
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I mean the fork they want already exists in Google's "android", a linux built with the OpenBSD libc
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you never know when the yc shitgnomes will zap it
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the top comment really belongs in the record here
BingoBoingo remembers being a Junior in college and contemplating buying a giant pile of Liberty Dollars. Then I go BTC to silver around $100/BTC, Should have got those liberty dollars and went the other direction.
BingoBoingo: I always tried to keep my territory under my flag small, clean, and well developed while oppressing the rest of the world
undata: sprint to nukes, destroy earth, rule over the radioactive wasteland.
decimation: this strategy works better in civ 5 where your cities can magically defend themselves
decimation: I never bother to invest in military units until I have good tech
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1ApMYNl )
mircea_popescu: which otherwise they fucking never do.
mircea_popescu: actually i think it's related to forcing whiny nerds to defend their fucking civ1 cities,
decimation: "we would gladly destroy the rich man's nice things just so we call all have poor hovels"
undata: Therefore, why not cap the number of hashes per second? If the operations were capped at say, 250khash/sec based upon system clock and not the available number of cycles, then anyone with the "minimum requirements" could participate << cap the standards of your wife so everyone can participate
undata: I should learn latin just so I have something to think in when they're done turning english into shit
mircea_popescu: “While the videos at issue in this litigation do not in my opinion depict any improper treatment of the detainees, but rather the lawful, humane and appropriate interaction between guards and detainees,” wrote U.S. Navy Rear Adm. Sinclair Harris, “persons and entities hostile to the United States and its detention of enemy belligerents at Guantánamo Bay are likely to think otherwise.”
assbot: Pentagon fears blowback from ‘humane’ Guantánamo video release | The Miami Herald ... ( http://bit.ly/1ApHulD )
decimation: either that or the guy flipped on someone
mircea_popescu: especially the Warning: file_get_contents(http://bitcoin.guylainegagnon.ca/tmp/request.php?ip= part lol
assbot: The conference, second edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1ApBpFV )
mircea_popescu: isn't this the guy that's active on like twitter and stuff ?
mircea_popescu: the shit trilema dominates...
BingoBoingo: Ah, yeah I meant seal. SEAL ALL THE CLUBS!!!
decimation: yeah the vocal derp ratio is pretty high
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> i dunno that there's something chilling me on bitcoin as much as all these idiots "driving adoption" in their idiotarian ways. << OMG SELL
mircea_popescu: you may call me a codger, but im not the only one.
mircea_popescu: i dunno that there's something chilling me on bitcoin as much as all these idiots "driving adoption" in their idiotarian ways.
decimation: maybe the real bitcoin foundation can apply for a certification
mircea_popescu: and of course diiorio and the rest of that scammer group.
decimation: re: mechanical fetish << one thing I don't get are mechanical watches, they have poor accuracy
mircea_popescu: The following people work to set the direction of C4 and the standards against which cryptocurrency professionals are measured:
mircea_popescu: The CryptoCurrency Certification Consortium (C4) establishes cryptocurrency standards that help ensure a balance of openness & privacy, security & usability, and trust & decentralization.
thestringpuller: does this mean they are going to go boom?
mircea_popescu: who are these fuckwits.
undata: there's both a bootstrapping problem there as well as a finger-vs-moon thing
undata: and having said that, I can already see the problem with that framing
undata: mircea_popescu: does the disease reduce to "can't tell the difference between imagined and perceived"
undata: it's the economic "jesus is coming back"
undata: "the recovery" << there's a good one
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the difference between us here is that you seem to include the margin. i say there's no margin included.
asciilifeform: granted, a particularly demented farmer might sing to the cattle for his own strange reasons, and no practical purpose
asciilifeform: what other kind of communication is possible between chumpatron operator and the feedstock ?
undata: reminds me of the Bill Hicks routine where he tells everyone in marketing in the audience to kill themselves
mircea_popescu: and then the replacement.
mircea_popescu: then replace the label.
mircea_popescu: just, replace a thing with a label of the thing
mircea_popescu: the only reason hipsters have moved on to bikes is that they're meta cars
mircea_popescu: what's more socially acceptable than playing the farmer on facebook ?
asciilifeform: undata: and the state pays thugs to practice killing you
undata: seems like the bank and the state both own some ownership
undata: well sure, I pay my landlord to rent this apt, he pays the bank for the building and the state for the dirt
asciilifeform: all this 'meta' business - is for the birds. i prefer the concrete.
undata: it seems fitting, the state in this case can issue power, but revoke it at will
undata: sure, then he can either steal from you, or print more, which steals from you just the same
asciilifeform: until the voices in his head say 'ransom was too small' and he changes mind.
undata: hence you receive "ownership" from the state but have to give it back more
undata: then you can rent ownership from the state, but never have it yourself
undata: it seems like in state-run economies, when they print money what they're actually manufacturing is ownership
asciilifeform: (paying whom? 'king hunger', but there are always human faces and eventually bashed in)
asciilifeform: comes the day when everyone is not only plowing with horses the size of chihuahuas, but paying dearly for the privilege
mircea_popescu: but a state with economic involvement and the custody of the currency is like...
asciilifeform: thing is, the machine's very presence upon the good earth - is death.
mircea_popescu: this'd work fine in practice for as long as the martian contraption owner didn't also have a cock
asciilifeform: nor - often - the lender.
asciilifeform: smaller, yes. but this is not immediately apparent to the borrower.
asciilifeform: then the idea of paying back begins to feel like pure rape
undata: asciilifeform: the metaphor needs the horses to get smaller the more of them there are :D
asciilifeform: undata: but let's say you have a martian contraption that craps out complete horses on demand, at no cost, at the push of a button
asciilifeform: undata: let's put another way. if we're subsistence farmers, neighbours, i borrow your horse - then you ask for it back plus p% of harvest, and it makes a kind of hind brain sense because you were deprived of a horse for a spell, after all
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not sure if you've noticed, but the movement is AWAY from direct sense, towards meta.
mircea_popescu: they've got the opportunity to send their kids to college :D
undata: feels not so great when you have to start paying them
undata: "And the 1990s, remember, were the good times for the middle class."
asciilifeform: who is 'poor' here, who - 'rich', and what do the latter 'have' more of
asciilifeform: the poor used to... the rich << sentence made of almost pure nothing - like aerogel.
mircea_popescu: thus therefore.
mircea_popescu: now, the poor have 0.011 opportunity. the rich, 0.012
mircea_popescu: this is true tho. numerically : the poor used to have 0.8 opportunity, and the rich 0.75
assbot: The poor used to have the most opportunity in America. Now the rich do. - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/122qVQW )
mircea_popescu: "Perhaps he was handed the story by the CIA, as German journalist Udo Ulfkotte confesses he often was."
mircea_popescu: it surely sharpens the cock.
pete_dushenski: sharpens the mind
pete_dushenski: eh i don't mind the crispness in the slightest
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu cute! that's pretty much what the non-migratory fauna look like here atm. twas -35C last week, though a blessed -10C today
pete_dushenski: they could be built to last for 1000s of years
pete_dushenski: maybe mechanical bitcoin miners are on the horizon
mircea_popescu: you people with your retro fashions will be the end of the fucking world
pete_dushenski: i ordered a model m and a unicomp to see how they stack up
pete_dushenski: so i've decided to join the mechanical keyboard ranks
pete_dushenski: if only the dumper knew that before!
mircea_popescu: <cazalla> pete_dushenski, i can see paying $2,500 for a ship in a game, not as a pre-order mind you. i hope for a game where bitcoin is the ingame currency and players set pricing for resources independent of publisher << it;'s called eve
cazalla: pete_dushenski, i can see paying $2,500 for a ship in a game, not as a pre-order mind you. i hope for a game where bitcoin is the ingame currency and players set pricing for resources independent of publisher
undata: "The humans then turned their attention inward, creating ever more realistic virtual worlds to live within. The comet hit in 2091."
undata: there's something amusing in there about proles pouring enough money to build a real rocket into a toy, but..
undata: Cloud Imperium does look pretty badass, if the videos are any indication of where it's headed
pete_dushenski: cazalla if gta5 can deliver, then surely something with a fraction of the drugs, violence, and sex industree can
cazalla: star citizen better deliver the goods
pete_dushenski: "To date, the developers have raised just over $65m from nearly 700,000 backers, which makes Star Citizen the largest crowdfunded project there has ever been by a huge margin. (The next largest, a publishing platform called Ethereum, has raised a comparatively paltry $18m.)"
cazalla: and if they did, it was merely so they could take the game back for a refund after copying the cd key
cazalla: pete_dushenski, no-one in the history of Australia has ever purchase vidya games from kmart
undata: they're trying to re-evolve legs
mircea_popescu: a ? well i guess that's something i learned today then
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BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Never forget Tillikum, the great freedom fighter.
mircea_popescu: but the part where they put cozies on them is cute.
undata: how rude to deny them that
undata: mircea_popescu: maybe the poor fucks were trying to commit suicide
pete_dushenski: if it weren't for "free willy" no one would bother with killer whales, too "mean"
undata: target... recently infamous for a massive theft of credit cards
pete_dushenski: there's really not much room in the market between walmart and the bay
pete_dushenski: target bought all the zellers stores in canada and has failed miserably to penetrate the market
pete_dushenski: then see how "big boned" she really is
mircea_popescu: "in the sex industree"
mircea_popescu: ima totally gonna go to target to buy beached whales belabouring under the delusion that people laughing them out of bars = "victims of violence"
pete_dushenski: then, while they're there, buy something they didn't need
pete_dushenski: people walk in just to see the bare shelves with their own eyes
mircea_popescu: is this target trollbaiting in the hopes someone's going to like, go to their store ?
undata: it was among other things an interesting look at how people waste away under socialist nanny states

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