mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo at the point prior to forking, the only difference between the two is version.
davout: bertani: because if you need one of the chains to be somehow aware of the merge mining you'd need a second hardfork after the first block size related hardfork
BingoBoingo: <davout> mircea_popescu: there is this auxillary proof of work notion, "Not to be confused with the "previous block". This is a block that is structured for the parent blockchain (i.e. the prev_block hash points to the prior block on the parent blockchain). The header of this block is part of the AuxPOW Block in the auxiliary blockchain. " << Basically this is my understanding. Both Bitcoin's would insist on being the "Parent" unl
davout: mircea_popescu: there is this auxillary proof of work notion, "Not to be confused with the "previous block". This is a block that is structured for the parent blockchain (i.e. the prev_block hash points to the prior block on the parent blockchain). The header of this block is part of the AuxPOW Block in the auxiliary blockchain. "
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Best I can tell it's a nobody. But they had a bunch of perfect ratings from tiny trades.
mircea_popescu: what'd be the difficulty ?
davout: so re the merge-mining it looks like namecoin had to be hard-forked to support it
mircea_popescu: in any case imported ratings in either wot would be marked as such
mircea_popescu: teward: in other news, coffee is now overpriced on campus - someone should be funding my coffee habits << job board's this way http://trilema.com/category/job-board/
davout: kakobrekla: so are assbot and -otc's wots completely forked or is there some sort of sync?
mircea_popescu: Rozal: I apologize, yes im a big liar who got mad because cazalla messes up my perfect ratings << wut the fuck going on there ?!
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/01/lizardstresser-hacked-customer-details-leaked/ << lmao epic scoop. << It's the one I've been waiting for. Anticipated the thing only meriting an epitaph.
mircea_popescu: the jackie childs school of rhetorics
asciilifeform: 'if ya don't believe this lie is true, ask the blind man, he saw it too'
mircea_popescu: the pregnant 16yo also ?
mircea_popescu: "He was alone in the apartment," prosecutor Viviana Fein told reporters. "There are no witnesses." << probably the best reason to keep a harem ever.
mircea_popescu: i mean... the circumstances are such that he'd have been killed, and dunno yet if powder residue. literlaly nothing indicates a suicide.
kakobrekla: >especially since storing user data as plaintext indicates that the group likely made further and still graver lapses in technological and operational security.
mircea_popescu: In late 2013 Jorge took an active interest in the economics of cryptocurrencies. He became extremely skeptical about its underlying soundness and chances of success, and has been advising the Brazilian public against investment in bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: myeah, we see the same one beast.
mircea_popescu: chiefly, the substance of boring.
thestringpuller: the kind of "more righteous than thou" crowd, but dressed up as hippies.
mircea_popescu: whole pile o' ought. exactly the opposite of empathy.
thestringpuller: i think they are self serving "goodness".
thestringpuller: social justice warriors are not very empathetic to begin with.
mircea_popescu: empathy is the fundament of all literature, for the reason that it's the fundament of all humanity. but empty palaver doth not an empathy make.
mircea_popescu: i wonder why all these derps ranting on and on about "empathy" never manage to produce one. imagine a victim like that.
davout: "all your delights are belong to the mindful brief time"
thestringpuller: "While it may, in the case of the delights of live happy. Live mindful of how brief your time."
mircea_popescu: prolly Conington's got the best version. "Then take, good sir, your pleasure while you may. With life so short 'twere wrong to lose a day."
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rithm: i live under a rock on the internet
xanthyos: starbucks is popular enough to have become a perfect money laundering system with their gift codes
mircea_popescu: and then you paid for that ?!?!?!
rithm: coffee to others is some type of retarded status symbol
mircea_popescu: so giving someone a coffee gift card is like... "go fuck yourself" ? ie, let's have a cup of coffee but without me there ?
mircea_popescu: just... coffee is this triviality, of no financial consequence. however, inviting oine for coffee is either sexual or whatever.
rithm: love the starbucks
BingoBoingo: !rate Rozal -10 Apparently fabricates allegations of theft http://dpaste.com/2E94Q1Q admits fabrication http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-01-2015#983318
rithm: no not i the female counterpart
rithm: you know what they say about things being too good to be true right
mats: cazalla doesnt play well with others
BingoBoingo: rithm: He got into a neg rating war with cazalla and fabricated theft allegations.
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Rozal!uid50160@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vqjwtzzpstsnaybo . User Rozal, rated since Thu Jan 17 09:32:27 2013. Cumulative rating 45, from 44 total ratings. Received ratings: 41 positive, 3 negative. Sent ratings: 43 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Rozal
rithm: trying to read buffer but the topic interests me
BingoBoingo: Campus coffee prices are some of the worst. Desperate population and limited vendors.
teward: in other news, coffee is now overpriced on campus - someone should be funding my coffee habits
teward: hence my raising the eyebrow :)
BingoBoingo: Rozal: My rating of you isn't disappearing. You made serious allegations over what seems to be a mutual dislike of each other.
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: This is serious business. If you make and sign allegations you need to support them.
Rozal: now we all love the trust system
BingoBoingo: So this rating of cazalla seems to be the lamest extortion attempt ever.
assbot: <Rozal> h <Rozal> hi <Rozal> i hate people who abuse the rating system <Rozal - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1CGXr7N )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: One BR is broker, other BR is Brazil. Nothing in common.
mircea_popescu: i dun think these people comprehend what slave means.
mircea_popescu: "If it can be proven that Bill Clinton had sex with underage girls provided by Jeffrey Epstein, that could potentially destroy any chance that Hillary Clinton has of winning the presidency in 2016."
Vexual: most of them are 17?
assbot: Bill Clinton And Underage Sex Slaves – This Could Be The End For Hillary’s Presidential Run In 2016 | Markets ... ( http://bit.ly/1yxHoLI )
mats: http://beforeitsnews.com/markets/2015/01/bill-clinton-and-underage-sex-slaves-this-could-be-the-end-for-hillarys-presidential-run-in-2016-2477774.html
mats: "Sometimes... I look out the window and think... We're one cyberwar away from falling over. This can all be undone by a few lines of code. And maybe it will. Maybe then we will repent. For the arrogance that we could live so tall, with so little thought to what supports beneath."
Vexual: mats, did you call the cops yet?
punkman: although the spanish prisoner scam bets on greed. bail prisoner out so you can get that nigerian gold.
mircea_popescu: "humanity" owes them. because 'humanity' is daddy and daddy always paid whatever bottles they broke.
mircea_popescu: ". I asked if there were any resources to help us and they declined to mention even one. This was despite my protests that we currently do not even have enough money for rent and food.
mats: my grandmother got a phone call from 'a police sergeant' saying i was in county prison and needed to be bailed out before being inevitably deflowered
mircea_popescu: and if you forget to thank the nice whipperperson for your lesson, 10 more.
mircea_popescu: that's what i'd like. for all retail establishments to get a pillory per 1mn yearly custom. then do some customer support in the form of, if you piss anyone off while on the premises, 10 minutes' flogging.
mircea_popescu: "Before all of this mess we were already financially struggling. To say that we were living paycheck-to-paycheck is an understatment. My boyfriend is currently underemployed and in school. I gave up 90% of the hours at my job in order to take this fake nanny job. I tried to explain all of this to the credit union but they were very callous with us saying that our priority needed to be on finding better paying jobs so
mircea_popescu: " These online scammers extensively preyed on my trusting nature. I was mailed a "secure, verified" check for $2750 that I deposited into my account and was promptly tricked into sending almost all of this money to "the toy shop owner" so that he could ship the toys. "
mats: " you belong on the internet of things because you're a tool"
mats: some of these aren't bad
mircea_popescu: "satire" is not here for these cancerous fags to hide behind.
Vexual: he might be a fan, they're everywhere
mircea_popescu: early history of the nurnberg courts, too.
mircea_popescu: "It would be a great convenience at present," said Mr. Harris; "nor would you need one atom of evidence beyond the report of the Commission to justify the hanging of whoever is responsible for the existence and continuance of such abominations."
mircea_popescu: "Unfortunately," I said, "at present the Hague Tribunal is not armed with the powers of an international assize court, nor is it qualified to place offenders, crowned or otherwise, in the dock. But don't you think that in the evolution of society the constitution of such a criminal court is a necessity?"
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: thank you. Is that possible to buy these shares on OTC or only in MPEx?
mircea_popescu: they carry freckles inside.
Vexual: ic the freckles have already been fucked off those two
Vexual: whereas 'back of beyond' means you wont see another soul for a week, and 'dingo bumfuck' means theres people, but they give off a wolf creek kinda vibe
Vexual: mp, you were asking about what constitues 'the sticks' in oz. To my knowlegde it's anywhere with pathcy phone reception
mircea_popescu: one paragraph in, it becomes apparent that while the us central command has no idea of wtf is going on, nevertheless us central command is willing to lie.
mircea_popescu: "TAMPA, Fla. - Earlier today, U.S. Central Command's Twitter and YouTube sites were compromised for approximately 30 minutes. These sites reside on commercial, non-Defense Department servers and both sites have been temporarily taken offline while we look into the incident further."
assbot: CIA hatched plan to make demon toy to counter Osama bin Laden’s influence - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1wkNSqb )
mircea_popescu: once there's enough men in #b-a, we probably COULD take over a country.
mircea_popescu: "They took this country by force," he says, with more than a touch of admiration. "If they came back, this time we'd give them the country for free." << there's a lot to this.
mircea_popescu: myeah, "the venal, racist scramble". right.
mircea_popescu: "Even amid the morbid decay, it comes as a shock to hear Le Blanc mourn colonialism. The venal, racist scramble by Europeans to possess Africa"
assbot: Baghdadi Executes 56 ISIL Members after Their Defeat in Southern Erbil | Ctv Egypt News ... ( http://bit.ly/1wkN7xh )
ben_vulpes: * asciilifeform recalls once reading that 'their' is 'obsolete,' and that the truly progressive (tm) types have made up new pronouns, 'ze', 've', fuck knows what els << i hold that "their" when used for a single entity is a crucifying offense
BingoBoingo: I mean their eyes even have turd shaped pupils
BingoBoingo: Well, they all kind of look like that.
mircea_popescu: had the meddlesome leopold been still involved, how was england to push south africa to abandon rhodesia, with empty promises that once the man shots his own dog, the man won't be hanged himself.
decimation: it's a good thing the Congo is independent and thriving, now that it lacks the terrible yoke of Leopold
mircea_popescu: given point; if compacted together in a body, they would occupy more ground than St. Louis covers, World's Fair and all; if they should all clap their bony hands at once, the grisly crash would be heard a distance of --" Damnation, it makes me tired!"
mircea_popescu: s, whose purpose is to make sentimental people shudder, and prejudice them against me. They remark that "if the innocent blood shed in the Congo State by King Leopold were put in buckets and the buckets placed side by side, the line would stretch 2,000 miles; if the skeletons of his ten millions of starved and butchered dead could rise up and march in single file, it would take them seven months and four days to pass a
mircea_popescu: "they will resurrect and give new currency to such things as those, or to any other things that count against me, but they will not mention any act of mine that is in my favor. I have spent more money on art than any other monarch of my time, and they know it. Do they speak of it, do they tell about it? No, they do not. They prefer to work up what they call "ghastly statistics" into offensive kindergarten object lesson
mircea_popescu: it's actually how bismarck beat england into a pulp, and created the first germany.
mircea_popescu: extract compensation under threat, make sure compensation > kicking. let the cycle wear itself out.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the 'kick the beast till it bites, then shoot it' observation is valid. i propose the solution is for the beast to threaten indefinitely.
mircea_popescu: and so kept telling the women about how politics should "properly" be set by old men around pulpits.
mircea_popescu: the prohibition was not merely idiocy. it was a particular sort of vindictive idiocy, where the pencildicks got upset that politics was set by men, around beer
asciilifeform: mr mold actually did some passable work on the subject. he ended by zipping the stratagem into a single sentence, 'kick the beast till it bites, then shoot it'
mircea_popescu: wholly of my "Congo butchers," "the very men whose acts were to be inquired into."
mircea_popescu: They tell how England required of me a Commission of Inquiry into Congo atrocities, and how, to quiet that meddling country, with its disagreeable Congo Reform Association, made up of earls and bishops and John Morleys and university grandees and other dudes, more interested in other people's business than their own, I appointed it. Did it stop their mouths? No, they merely pointed out that it was a commission composed
mircea_popescu: love, and who is the sleepless guardian and friend of all who suffer. They tell only what is against me, they will not tell what is in my favor.
mircea_popescu: They tell it all: how I am wiping a nation of friendless creatures out of existence by every form of murder, for my private pocket's sake. But they never say, although they know it, that I have labored in the cause of religion at the same time and all the time, and have sent missionaries there (of a "convenient stripe," as they phrase it), to teach them the error of their ways and bring them to Him who is all mercy and
asciilifeform: signed sha hashes << unless the server lives under kakobrekla's pillow, next to his kalash, this is inviting trouble
mircea_popescu: allows to verify it genuinely came from there.
mircea_popescu: it guards at least against mitm and other issues.
kakobrekla: having key automatically sign the thing is meh
decimation: the same guy who popularized ldpc codes wrote that book, which details the mathematical idiocy of 'renewables'
asciilifeform: decimation: see also mircea_popescu's article 'the corn thing'
mats: i bet the smell is awful
assbot: Ch D Page 284: Sustainable Energy - without the hot air | David MacKay ... ( http://bit.ly/1wkGV8j )
decimation: asciilifeform: http://www.withouthotair.com/cD/page_284.shtml "The power per unit area of bioethanol from corn is astonishingly low. Just for fun, let’s report the numbers first in archaic units. 1 acre produces 122 bushels of corn per year, which makes 122 × 2.6 US gallons of ethanol, which at 84 000 BTU per gallon means a power per unit area of just 0.02 W/m2E – and we haven’t taken into account any of the energy losses in
mircea_popescu: nature does these contortions, because nature's a whore.
mircea_popescu: yes but simply making solar panels the same size or price would yield more.
asciilifeform: it was, in fact, a basic toy chumpatron. the inspiration for my article re: same.
asciilifeform: although there are interesting 'demo' cases. i once saw a set of photographs of a 'work of art' - a small coffee table, with a bioreactor. a lure of some electronic kind (acoustic?) led mice up a hollow leg and into the reactor. there, they would ferment, and charge a battery that would run the next iteration of the mouse-lift-zap-ferment cycle.
mircea_popescu: decimation but then you'ver just shown why they'd rightfully not expect to be biodisel'd. 1 in 1000 shot.
decimation: fractionary << yes, ferment one, educate 1000 (at the fuel pump!)
asciilifeform: nobody but chromosomally damaged midwestern usians imagines that closed cycle biodiesel is +ev. but it remains that something will have to be done with the... biomass.
mircea_popescu: decimation then it's necessarily fractionary.
asciilifeform: pretty much the whole shebang runs on exquisitely non-renewable stuff
asciilifeform: what are mineral resources then.
mircea_popescu: so then i stole her ?
asciilifeform: but you, the farmer, did not fatten her
mircea_popescu: then see what you could get, per calorie, as biodiesel.
asciilifeform: very economical in the broad sense (sealed mine)
mircea_popescu: none of these are warranted. not really.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes. for instance : they expect to not have to find someone to be the sex slave of.
mircea_popescu: it's roughly the "put pitbull in doorframe and slam door on him" educational tactic.
mircea_popescu: "shut the fuck up, get on your knees and suck more cock"
mircea_popescu: and no government yet has had the audacity to go to a group of self impressed idiots and tell them the sort of thing i say
asciilifeform: wait, they expect something ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, the guy has a point , and that point is : the expectations of us citizens, and their self valuations, are wildly divergent from reality.
decimation: lol let the beatings commence
asciilifeform: as a general thing, as often is, the whole point would disappear.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i used the girl's locker room in highschool, and i hung out with the chicks in their yoga class too.
mircea_popescu: so wait. the thing that steals sometimes a lot and sometimes a little is the nerw normal. and so when it only steals a little it... TRANSFERS money from the thief to the victim ?
mircea_popescu: decimation anyway, as a male that usually uses the women's restroom, im pro tolerance.
kakobrekla: that they are faggots?
decimation: so, some guy telling a confused chick to leave the locker room is the same as murdering?
decimation: lol from article: "but really when it comes to actually creating resources that support and protect transgender and other marginalized students, they have really dragged their feet and have taken a really long time…and in the meantime students’ lives are at risk.”
decimation: "Anyway let’s try to go back to first principles a little here. Read through the glowing, er, defense of inflation and it boils down to the same basic story: ‘oh noes wages are sticky’."
decimation: with the sudden oil price collapse, all Smart People are now seriously worried about deflation
mircea_popescu: not to mention the 7-8%
mircea_popescu: it's gotten to the point where inflation's being dressed up as necessary. well... it is. should interest rates move to a very liberal 5% the us is unable to finance even its interest alone.
decimation: there's a complex dance between what congress 'authorizes' and 'appropriates'
decimation: although actually no, the last real budget in a bill was passed in 1997 http://prospect.org/article/does-congress-even-need-pass-budget
mircea_popescu: everyone agrees they need more money.
decimation: that's because the right and left have politically stalemated
mircea_popescu: now everyone's wearing bras and marring their cat.
mircea_popescu: had they had the sense to being moderate while out of france, and had they the internet & other means to do this... diff story.
mircea_popescu: but that they mattered is preserved at least in the fact that their woman killed the journo.
mircea_popescu: no, it turned out the girondins were butchered first.
decimation: after 1789, it was hoped that the new constitution would be well supported by 'moderates'
decimation: well, if 'making it not last' is the political strategy, then I suggest "stand back and watch them fail"
mircea_popescu: there's dire need for more politically minded people to make it a point.
asciilifeform: is it not already the case ?
mircea_popescu: that's already defeat, for them.
asciilifeform: their opponents, if too vocal and not independently wealthy - face starvation.
mircea_popescu: consider that the protestants choked the catholics, with a very lively french government that sinecured them to heaven.
asciilifeform: as it stands, the progressives want for nothing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this almost certainly requires a dead usg, or at the very least one which is in no condition to sinecure progressives.
mircea_popescu: point remains : once there's a penalty to being a progressive, things can be turned into some sort of shape.
decimation: redhat does not make hardware, but they provide guarantees for certain baselines
decimation: good point, they don't break that out
asciilifeform: decimation: would be interesting to see who contributes something other than drivers for own hardware.
mircea_popescu: up until he couldn't anymore, at which point all sorts of other idiots had a whole troughful of problems.
mats: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/17/us/supreme-court-to-decide-whether-gays-nationwide-can-marry.html
mircea_popescu: i can then move to give linux more weight, and so on.
mircea_popescu: the simple knowledge that you will NEVER be a linux developer, ever, is a good start.
mircea_popescu: not exactly the point. poltics is not about what you do.
asciilifeform: how much from rathead is even getting merged in kernel ?
asciilifeform: without getting out of usa personally, rather.
asciilifeform: linus is about as political minded as your average frog... sits there and ignores... instead of taking up arms, booting all us interest from linux << how's he to do that.
mircea_popescu: very important to promote a lot more people who are actually willing to kill these idiots, not just ignore them.
asciilifeform recalls once reading that 'their' is 'obsolete,' and that the truly progressive (tm) types have made up new pronouns, 'ze', 've', fuck knows what els
mircea_popescu: the only pity here is that linus is about as political minded as your average frog, and so instead of taking up arms, booting all us interest from linux, strangling poettering by his own guts and so on,
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, they don't need a king you see. they're sans coulottes, they talk a lot, and that's all that's needed.
asciilifeform finds it somewhat odd that there is not yet an official 'rat king' (poettering?) to serve as an 'anti-linus'
mircea_popescu: "it's not new, it's the same thing!"
mircea_popescu: is this like that one time when the idiot murican journos threw a fit that the french president didn't care about whatever stupid shit they had picked to make their world out of, and then were never heard from again ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Seriously, the dramas
assbot: Logged on 19-01-2015 03:27:36; BingoBoingo: Can not improve on the drama here and in the comments http://valleywag.gawker.com/linus-torvalds-does-not-give-a-shit-about-you-1680004895
asciilifeform: 'grow a motherfucking spine linux. get this asshole out.' << mega-lol!
BingoBoingo: Highligh:>> UPDATE: ModelViewCulture CEO Shanley Kane has asked me to describe her not as a "diversity advocate" or "diversity activist" and to instead identify her as the co-founder and CEO of a media company that is better than the one I work for. According to its website, ModelViewCulture is "an independent media platform focused on the intersection of technology, culture and diversity." So: nothing to do with advocating for di
BingoBoingo: It's the most unGawker thing I've ever seen on Gawker
BingoBoingo: Can not improve on the drama here and in the comments http://valleywag.gawker.com/linus-torvalds-does-not-give-a-shit-about-you-1680004895
decimation: !up WolfGoethe
kakobrekla: not on the pic but represent!
mircea_popescu: <PeterL> maybe only allow people to koin until all properties sold? << maybe simply allow people to sell out their token
asciilifeform: it is apparently being passed around by lamers, who did not even look at the date, as 'lol bitcoin users, maybe this will save them from certain sc4mz0r d00m'
mircea_popescu: and seeing how the guilty parties are not here present to defend themselves, i see little trouble going with your theory.
ben_vulpes: <PeterL> [] could you make a version of monopoly which allows people to drop in after the game has started? << bitcoin monopoly?!
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] "arbitrary access to transactions in the chain is not allowed to avoid having clients start to depend on nodes having full transaction indexes" << there has to be more to this story. << pointless degradation of network protocol to reduce utility of bitcoin.
PeterL: "since no sessions, bot can be used without the need for you being present on any channel" < it should say you need to be in chan to get voiced
PeterL: I was thinking more of something for us to have fun rather than trying to make money