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fluffypony: Mark "theymos" Karpeles
davout: "Similarly, SA Der-Yeghiayan also noticed that a discussion forum known as “bitcointalk.org” – which SA Der-Yeghiayan believed, based on information from a “confidential informant,” was operated by Mr. Karpeles" <<< whose name starts with 'they' and ends with 'mos'
davout: "Thus, SA Der-Yeghiayan had noted that a website registered to Mr. Karpeles had a “wiki” page on it (i.e., an FAQ page) that was created using the same version of “wiki” software – “Mediawiki” – used to create the “wiki” page on the Silk Road website."
davout: register the “silkroadmarket.org” domain name. »
davout: along with a false address included in the contact information used to
davout: , reflects the name
davout: file recovered from the defendant’s computer, within a folder marked “aliaces” [sic]
davout: laptop subsequent to his arrest, that name is known to be an alias used by the defendant. Specifically, a
davout: Ex. C). Based on an examination of the defendant’s
davout: website, the name of the website was registered by someone using the
davout: he “who.is” information for the “silkroadmarket.org”
davout: , the investigation ultimately revealed, was the
davout: associated with the “silkroadmarket.org” website
davout: The Kalyhost customer
assbot: AT LAST: Australia gets its very own malware • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1sVrvMI )
BingoBoingo: Looks like qntra got scooped on this... apparently we don't have enough friends in the SEC https://coinfire.cf/2015/01/19/sec-investigation-of-gaw-miners-underway/
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: Free is the only price they can afford.
BingoBoingo: I simply lack the nuances of the language to do a great portugese translation. Research would be incredibly welcome though.
felipelalli: BingoBoingo: thank you, but I was already discouraged enough. I'll think of a way to contribute, I loved the style of qntra.net - and would like to see some original research on it. Do not know why it fascinates me, but the amount of misinformation in the world of bitcoin is incredible, it's hard to trust something without having checked ourselves.
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: but maybe you are right, spend money on it can be waste of money. maybe a simple survey can give me the results I need. << Prolly do it in the way that keeps your expenses on this down.
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: Can I write an article in Portuguese to qntra.net? Someone can translate it to English to me and I make the final review? << It is far easier to clean up iffy English tham translate.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: or was that his 'zil' << zil was auctioned rather recently
TheNewDeal: !down TheNewDeal
mircea_popescu: coderwill it's not entirely clear what you mean by "exchange", but in any case : what you're looking for has been covered extensively by mpoe-pr on the forum, back in the early days when the sort of nonsense was a lot more prevalent/
coderwill: thanks for the temp +v
coderwill: mircea_popescu: anything you wish you'd known when you first started putting together your exchange that you know now?
coderwill: I'm in the early phases of setting up an exchange here in Costa Rica.
mats: > Damn hackers! I want to hack them all (my stepdad once set a virus to this dork that was bragging bout his hacking skills, the virus causes your computer to wipe itself cleab each time it turns on or off! Dont worry, he only sent it to that one guy)
mircea_popescu: probably the best infection report on the internets.
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PeterL: TheNewDeal: mine came from office @ polimedia.us
TheNewDeal: mp, what is the email address that would have sent out a token for trilema?
mircea_popescu: it's ludicrous as a concept. showing that these idiots posing as "leaders" have the intellectual penetration of frogs.
mircea_popescu: except, how the fuck will that work ? here's a broken c program, make a basic version of it and then try to enforce it
assbot: Logged on 21-10-2014 01:30:35; asciilifeform: 'As progressively dumber programmers build progressively more complex systems we will see more of this kind of attempt to paper over coding mistakes with lawyers, sanctions, policies, and laws. Hollywood and the RIAA are usually the most successful at getting the government to do their bidding. Thus I predict that one day Disney will have a Web site where you can buy access to any of their movies.
mircea_popescu: basically the proposition is that rather than writing good software, bad software will be translated into law language
mircea_popescu: this entire "forget how the machines work we'll make a legal representaton of how they SHOULD work and then hold you to respect that whether you knew it or not" is such nonsense.
mats: "(D) violating or about to violate section 1030 of this title where such conduct would affect 100 or more protected computers during any 1-year period, such as (but not limited to) by denying access to or operation of the computers, installing unwanted software on the computers, using the computers without authorization, or obtaining information from the
assbot: mossmann's blog: The NSA Playset ... ( http://bit.ly/1ujIWC9 )
mats: michael ossmann is the man.
mats: i think attendees were dazzled by the reproduced ANT tools
mats: From the pre-close panel at Shmoocon yesterday: "We used to be smarter than the Feds, it used to be a joke, how dumb they are. The NSA and FBI have a lot of smart people working for them now, I think it may be the other way around these days."
mircea_popescu: felipelalli: I want to hire a statistical company to make a distributed properly research. << there's perhaps better uses to that capital, whatever you'd be spending. seeing how the value of asnwering the "what does brazil think" on whatever topic isn't really that great. i guess it could be a useful demonstration of methodology etc, but that needs some sort of a plan, won't do much as just a shot in the dark.
mircea_popescu: felipelalli: But I want to write it in Portuguese to someone translate it to me to English, and I make the final review just to see if anything was misundertood. << this is a non-starter. the person doing the translation can just write their own stuff directly. you're not famous or anything, why'd you imagine someone'd be bothered translating you specifically ?
mircea_popescu: but there'd have to be some sort of serious upfront commitment to it. one article now and again isn'treally worth the hassle.
mircea_popescu: mike_c: i believe english is strongly encouraged. from what I remember when the guy wanting to write in italian showed up. << well, nobody speaks italian. brazil speaks portuguese. i don't directly see a problem with it, if the coverage's any good.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: and does the cooking too << i remember that part.
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> from the top of the hill << o look, czechoslovenia!
gribble: The20YearIRCloud was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 weeks, 0 days, 5 hours, 5 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <The20YearIRCloud> Big thing has been to have em look over all the financial documents as we're filing taxes for 2014 next month and I didn't want to submit till they had a good idea of it.
TheNewDeal: ;;seen The20YearIRCloud
mats: this is the most touching moment ive witnessed in #b-a
kakobrekla: lol, authentic brazil hugs
mats: not to say there wouldn't be a valid use case. just, what's the point?
kakobrekla: then i wont hug you
felipelalli: but maybe you are right, spend money on it can be waste of money. maybe a simple survey can give me the results I need.
mike_c: oh god.. the accent in my head is killing me. hilarious
felipelalli: no. If I go to slams it will be one result, if I go to downtown, another totally different.
gribble: Nick 'TheNewDeal', with hostmask 'TheNewDeal!~TheNewDea@unaffiliated/thenewdeal', is not identified.
felipelalli: the number doesn't matter, but the distribution.
felipelalli: no, I had worked in a statistical company, if you say to them that you made that, they gonna kill you! :)
kakobrekla: there arent that many?
mike_c: ah. well, hit the streets, get 50 random brazilians to answer a survey. the results of that might be worth an article.
kakobrekla: well get to work, dreams wont dream themselfs!
mike_c: so, if you want to do this research but have not yet, what is the article going to say?
mike_c: not even a good scam. price goes down all the time.
felipelalli: mike_c: I want to do an overview of the Bitcoin image in Brazil. I want to show how almost everybody here thinks it is a scam. But for this I use a professional statistical research that costs a fortune.
mike_c: you trust assbot, the bot doesn't yet trust you
mike_c: you are doing it the other way
felipelalli: 01:08:10 - gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user felipelalli to user assbot: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 2 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=felipelalli&dest=assbot | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=assbot | Rated since: Fri Apr 11 02:04:55 2014
mike_c: what's the topic?
felipelalli: mike_c: because it is my native language and my English is not so good. But I want to write it in Portuguese to someone translate it to me to English, and I make the final review just to see if anything was misundertood.
mats: the net must be a boring place for people who can't read the big three
mike_c: reasoning is along the lines of, "the only people you are reaching is the people in italy who haven't bothered to learn english"
mike_c: i believe english is strongly encouraged. from what I remember when the guy wanting to write in italian showed up.
kakobrekla: i think cazalla edits the wp
felipelalli: thank you! Let me ask another thing: wouldn't nice if this page (default 404): http://qntra.net/anything/ (where anything can be anything) was linked somewhere? Like "Search" or "Category" (without the message "Well this is somewhat embarrassing, isn’t it?")? This page is very useful because it shows the categories and the search. I couldn't find a link to search/category page.
kakobrekla: actually i was pinging them for their attention for you
felipelalli: Can I write an article in Portuguese to qntra.net? Someone can translate it to English to me and I make the final review?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: the only thing one can reliably get to where i live, without a motor, is 'convenience stores' which largely sell recycled food
kakobrekla: actually it would take longer with the car than by foot.
kakobrekla: here you dont need a car to go to the store.
ben_vulpes: girl basically runs the household
ben_vulpes: and does the cooking too
ben_vulpes: yeah well there you go
kakobrekla hates going to the store.
ben_vulpes: personal cheques would defeat the purpose; then i'd have to pay taxes on money i'd already have paid taxes on.
pete_dushenski: i guess it depends whether your personal payroll includes personal cheques or just payments in kind ;)
ben_vulpes: perhaps you missed the part of the log where i disclosed that lady v is on my personal payroll
pete_dushenski: might as well enjoy these final months/years of peaceful sleep
pete_dushenski: lol probably stressful at times but you have to roll with the punches
ben_vulpes: HAVE FUN NO PRESSURE NOTHING RIDING ON THE OPERATION
ben_vulpes: you see the girl's sister's wedding is important enough to shift babymaking around, but not con3
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: i'm going to the third conference, foo
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes so when's this baby of yours due ? we've been hearing about it since, what, you tried to use it as an excuse to not go to the third conference ?
mircea_popescu: and weld them top to top
ben_vulpes: the long ones
pete_dushenski: though the diesels are known to last 1,000,000 miles
pete_dushenski: plus, quite underpowered and they never heat up in the winter
pete_dushenski: now diesel is all over the place
mircea_popescu: back in the 90s the diesels were pretty economical cause diesel was 30% off
asciilifeform has not checked the proof, just saw this turd
asciilifeform: seems like the question re: the linked article is, can one have the card players compute an arbitrary function (without them knowing) by having them play out a certain position
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu you're probably thinking of the 300 sel, if not one of the diesels
mircea_popescu: and allocate the apples to machine states or sumthin
mircea_popescu: apparently a sack of 20 different apples is "turing complete" if you provide the turing completeness separately
assbot: Magic: the Gathering is Turing Complete ... ( http://bit.ly/1B9NuzL )
mircea_popescu: so you'd do ~500 km on the 50 liters in the tank
pete_dushenski: probably more like 600-700km on the highway
asciilifeform: neh, the street bum who bids a penny will undercut.
pete_dushenski: for the right price, i'll buy anything.
pete_dushenski: well the story is that he drove one on his first visit to the us
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i can't comment on whether gorby owns one, but the photo is clearly on a wash, d.c street
mircea_popescu: jurov it's counterintuitive, but the session thing is not actually increasing security.
jurov: so no assumptions and ask the counterparty directly for proper signature. i see
mircea_popescu: ahh its so great to be back in the irc seat.
kakobrekla: there is no session
jurov: the trust output
gribble: The operation succeeded.
jurov: but how i'm getting them out ouf short keyid... pull it from keyserver, i guess
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assbot: Magic: the Gathering is Turing Complete ... ( http://bit.ly/1B9Elap )
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for kakobrekla from 1 to 3 with note: cool wot bro
kakobrekla: shut the fuck up.
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for kakobrekla from 3 to 1/0 with note: cool wot bro
davout: you already have the fingerprints from gribble amirite
davout: as long as the ratings stay
davout: kakobrekla: yeah, i fucked my key up, put paymium support as primary id, fixed it and re-pushed it to key server, it's just aesthetics
davout: maybe we should bring assbot to the bot doctor
davout: oh noes, it took the wrong primary id
gribble: nubbins` was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 7 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <nubbins`> here's another hilariously mismatched one: https://i.imgur.com/HILYArv.jpg
gribble: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. <nick> may contain * as a wildcard.
jurov: well, as i read the asswot discussion, let it be noted btc-dev mailing list will eventually need timely updates of wot database, too
nubbins`: here's another hilariously mismatched one: https://i.imgur.com/HILYArv.jpg
nubbins`: note how the surface design is impossibly beautiful, indicating an inhumanly skilled craftsman, yet the shape of the BTC logo looks as if it was molded in play-doh by a 12yo
nubbins`: ^ from a "master wood carver" on the forums who "hand carves" his designs
kakobrekla: and they are great to make ushanka from
mircea_popescu: can't match them unless session
mircea_popescu: sessionless is either door or mouse
jurov: and why assbot isn't replying with these incredibly useful fortune quips?
jurov: i'm still in yest with the log
assbot: You rated user kakobrekla on 22-Apr-2014, with a rating of 4, and supplied these additional notes: runs several solid btc enterprises (bit4x,bitbet,panacea,...);we met IRL.
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: In this case. DOn't see the dude around here, so I only know him noa for the laffs
BingoBoingo: Sure. I for example entered the Rozal rating on both WoTs because the information is immidiately useful to both #bitcoin-assets as lulz material and #bitcoin-otc as a leper's bell around the person's neck.
mircea_popescu: actually i guess it depends on teh wisdom / celerity of teh admins currently involved if the future will hold it as best practice or just you know, that thing that might have been useful but never took off.
mircea_popescu: that they talk to each other is a convenience, and i guess best practice, but not really a necessity.
mircea_popescu: well obv that's optional. as the wot decentralizes, one can be part of as many / all of them.
TomServo: mircea_popescu: Things seemed to be getting messy with the drama earlier. Having to rate in two places.
BingoBoingo: I've just assumed until it sorts out that rating twice is generally the best practice for most ratings
mircea_popescu: <TomServo> Am I crazy for suggesting that assbot be subordinate to gribble until the exchange of ratings is sorted out? << why would it be ?
BingoBoingo: That last letter is the hardest
gribble: You rated user Rozal on Mon Jan 19 12:09:29 2015, with a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: Fabricated theft allegations http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/Rozal_allegation Confessed http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-01-2015#983318 Full Indictment http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/Rozal_Indictment.
gribble: User 'Rozal', with keyid 1C6C480917AD74D9, fingerprint D80FB0CF5F65CDC0EC40AF051C6C480917AD74D9, and bitcoin address 1DUDE1aJyNEcV1iqKA3SUqJB3QaWUfoFNz, registered on Thu Jan 17 08:51:26 2013, last authed on Mon Jan 19 09:36:57 2015. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=Rozal . Currently authenticated from hostmask Rozal!uid50160@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vqjwtzzpstsnaybo .
TomServo: Am I crazy for suggesting that assbot be subordinate to gribble until the exchange of ratings is sorted out?
gribble: Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
BingoBoingo: It's clear. He admitted to fabricating the allegation.
BingoBoingo: Fabricating diodes in the shop.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes would prolly rather prototype some chips at 1 meter process size.
thestringpuller: "the right for people to freely trade with each other without anybody interfering with the transaction"
ben_vulpes can't cope with the constantly moving targets
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes you don't understand, she was almost under 18 at the time and she didn't agree to switch positions!
mircea_popescu: <davout> just wondering if there was a specific reason it wasn't mentioned in the spec << so people can have fun.
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ben_vulpes: mats: do you not get the pizza reference?
undata: davout: you could just wait to upload after the second transaction confirms
undata: the two transations thing seems fine
davout: Apocalyptic: the idea is to reveal the salt, but only after the bitcoin has been claimed back from the bundle-related addy, not keep it secret forever
undata: Apocalyptic: yeah, that ruins that without later revealing the salt
Apocalyptic: undata, ? the purpose is that everyone can hash the bundle and verify the address indeed matches
undata: I was also wondering whether one might want to salt the generated private key somehow so it's harder to guess
davout: if there's actually one deed bundle per hour that'll amount to
davout: just wondering if there was a specific reason it wasn't mentioned in the spec
ben_vulpes: davout: talk to the specwriter, but i believe the thing acts as a btc spigot so as to incentivize auditing of its behavior.
davout: ben_vulpes: you might just as well spend that back to deedbot's wallet by broadcasting a second transaction at the same time
davout: also there was another thing regarding deedbot, if all deeds are simply concatenated before being hashed into a bitcoin private key, that means anyone watching the process taking place can deduce the bitcoin private key that's going to be generated, and claim the coins that'll be sent there
davout: more from the fact that folks you trust are looking at deeds being timestamped
mircea_popescu: it does make sense. because the trust does not derive from a robotic application of a gpg seal.
Apocalyptic: the content has to be made public and witnessed by others at the time it's timestamped
davout: well, in that case it doesn't really make sense to me that the notary doesn't GPG-sign
mircea_popescu: you're free to sign whatever matter a similar way, but it won't be thus notarized. it will just be your own mock-up of the process.
mircea_popescu: the notary keeps a list of all the items it was sent a certain way.
mircea_popescu: if you come hither with a signed statement saying "the coin will fall tails" i won't particularly care
davout: well, blockchain is the witness here, or am i missing sthg?
davout: the way i saw it was that it'd just be a manually-made lord-signed deed, rather than one compiled by an IRC bot
davout: the notary doesn't sign does it?
mircea_popescu: people should be able to sign independently of the notary, and should be able to mock its formality, sure.
davout: what matters is the way it works, not the specific implementation that actually works the way it is specified, just my 2 bitcents anyway
BingoBoingo: But part of the deedbot appeal is also hosting the deeds as a stronger pastebin/dpaste alternative.
davout: you can just sha256 your content, make an address out of that, send a bitcent there, and since that's how deedbot is supposed to work, you get your stuff deedbot-timestamped before deedbot even exists
thestringpuller: davout: could you elaborate further?
davout: BingoBoingo: you can already timestamp some stuff and get deedbot to accept it later as previously timestamped, that is, if the bundle structure is already defined
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: I've always had this standard ready. There was jsut never a situation for it.
BingoBoingo: For the much stronger timestamping
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: He never PM'd me. worse than flappy plane though http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/Rozal_Indictment
BingoBoingo: This time he was caught in his lie because he was sloppy. The next time he does it he probably won't be so sloppy.
BingoBoingo: He's already negrated me. Nothing to lose there.
davout: BingoBoingo: what's the risk? some derp negrating you?
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for Rozal from -10 to -10 with note: Fabricated theft allegations http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/Rozal_allegation Confessed http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-01-2015#983318 Full Indictment http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/Rozal_Indictment
davout: since eligius pays directly from the coinbase you're guaranteed to receive a payout that's spendable on one chain but not on the other
mircea_popescu: that sort of latency means you'll be a late comer to the "sell it into the dirt" party.
mircea_popescu: im not happy with waiting the 200 blocks for the scamcoins to mature.
davout: also, i think that if what you want to achieve is a bitcoin separator, the easiest way is simply to acquire a satoshi from eligius and use it on the input side of a transaction
mircea_popescu: course, this is not actually needed either. miners already do that, in that they look for high tx fee txn
mircea_popescu: it *could* just look for dblspent txs that made it on gavinchain and prioritize them
davout: so if i understand correctly, the main characteristic you want for this pool, is that it prioritizes double-spends of already-confirmed gavincoins when picking which txes to put in its blocks
mircea_popescu: the principal utility of this thing is to guarantee the general public the ability to split its coins on the two chains
davout: if you remove 1. then mining gavincoin blocks can be removed from the rfc as well
assbot: [RFC] The Gavin Assassinsen Memorial Mining Pool Implementation pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1zrL3uu )
davout: mircea_popescu: for the first >1mb block you will necessarily have a different merkle root, so you can't possibly have the same block hash at any point afterwards
mircea_popescu: really the nonce should have been 64bit.
mircea_popescu: so each ~4.3 Gh the nonce overflows. hm.
mircea_popescu: i never heard anyone seriously propose bb guns for the job
mircea_popescu: mats i heard that theory more about the .38 as a better suicide weapon than the .45
TomServo: Rozal | I won't return anyones negatives << Turns out, not so much. On gribble's side of the wot anyway.
mats: folklore claims that the round is uniquely deadly because it loses penetrating power after passing through bone the first time, and then just bounces around blending the brain matter until it exits the skull
mircea_popescu: then mine both blocks as the same hash.
mircea_popescu: mats and water can be quite healthy. doesn't make it the cure for life threatening conditions does it ?
mats: the round'll tumble once it gets in there.
mats: just ... don't shoot the guy in the forehead. put it in an eye.
mircea_popescu: davout was the original design.
mircea_popescu: The result will be a decrease in mining incentive, a decrease in mining, and ultimately all networks that allow merged mining will become insecure.
mircea_popescu: ve to mine will diminish. As long as a currency’s mining is merged with the freeloading currency, it will be powerless to increase incentives by imposing mandatory transaction fees.
mircea_popescu: This will increase the price of the currency with the lowest transaction fee (because demand for the currency is higher), and decrease the price of the currencies with higher transactions fees (because demand for those currencies is dropping as it is being filled by demand for the competing currency). Because the currencies with the higher transaction fees were the ones generating the incentive to mine, overall incenti
mircea_popescu: y with the lowest transaction fees as long as it has the same security of the competitors.
davout: so, if i understand correctly, the way this thing works is that it attracts moar miners through the bonus mechanism, which in turn contributes to killing-off gavincoin amirite
mircea_popescu: Except now competing currencies can market themselves as “as secure as Bitcoin but with lower transaction fees.” In other words there is a race to the bottom among competing currencies to offer the lowest transaction fees, because lowering the transaction fee doesn’t hurt the security of the network in comparison to the other merged mining networks. Users, following their own self interest, will adopt the currenc
mircea_popescu: This means that ultimately, to the extent that currencies are interchangeable to end users, merged mining does not increase the overall security of the networks. The demand for currencies drives the price (and thus the value of the reward). Increased demand for any given currency results in decreased demand for others, lowering the incentive to mine for the other currencies. The total incentive is a function of total d
mircea_popescu: At any given time there is a certain amount of demand for a Bitcoin like currency to make transactions. That need doesn’t increase with more competition. That means that the transactional demand for Bitcoin is really the same as the transactional demand for all substantially similar forms of payment. As more currencies are competing to fill the same demand they actually reduce the demand for the other currencies as t
mircea_popescu: check out dooglus (who isn't a gavin-approved economist, in spite of being exactly as certified&educated in the topic as the random idiots a la Oleg Andreev et all) explaining economics :
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, that's what the channel's for.
BingoBoingo: Basically Bitch chain depends on the Master chain.
mircea_popescu: better ways to ruin scamcoins than merge-mine them doth not exist huh.
mircea_popescu: what happens is that a hash of a block of the lower chain is inserted in bitcoin blocks, and then the lower chain accepts this as "just as good" proof.
mircea_popescu: i had thought different chains had to be forked to mm because of their different origin. but that's not what happens in merged mining at all.
davout: i don't think the way you propose to use merge mining actually works
davout: the version is part of the header, so the solution for one header doesn't work for the other
BingoBoingo: Well, it is once the chains require different blocks because they've forked...
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