mircea_popescu: "why should i figure out how actual history flowed when i can just make up an imaginary history for myself! not like the same exact processes are going to repeat themselves or anything.... I CAN DO WHAT I WANT! The world outside my head doesn't really exist! "
mircea_popescu: punkman: fake boyfriends that is << the trouble with an actual boyfriend is that he just might make you a woman
mircea_popescu: without that, neither al nor francis'd hjave been heard of, perhaps. and yet...
mircea_popescu: it's incredible what people end up having their careers built on.
punkman: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/the-godfather/ bring in the hate. << lol "Deux Ex Fucking Puzzina"
mircea_popescu: it's not a car fetish if you're not fucking the car@
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: also not really a breakthrough until the text's been parsed, but whaddaya want from "science" these days.
ben_vulpes: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/01/150122114405.htm << probably just pornography, a la the logs for this place
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ben_vulpes: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/22/thunderstruck_spaceplane/ << totally never doable in the states
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/ciuciu-bond/#comment-87616 (mihai alisie being teh turning stone on that bi of theft)
davout: wasn't he the guy that actually started it ?
mircea_popescu: notwithstanding pretenses to the contrary.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bingoboingo now that pair is actually trying to resurect bitcoin magazine again, a blow by blow history of exactly how bitpay & the scam foundation stole that magazine from its owners a coupla years ago would be quite topical. the forum's got a pile of posts, see vladimir's stuff, maybe even interview him.
davout: punkman: re bitcoinmagazine, this galippi quote is slightly confusing then: "We’re extremely proud of Bitcoin Magazine’s accomplishments, but know that we’ve only scratched the surface. The opportunity to join forces with BTC Media’s extremely capable and visionary team was the strategic move we needed to fully realize our potential."
mircea_popescu: the who ?
ben_vulpes: exploitation, objectification, the whole lot
fluffypony: nubbins`: there
thestringpuller: davout: bitpay was trying to sell bitcoin magazine for some time, it's really unprofitable, most profit was on appreciation in value of the bitcoin they swindled from people paying 5-6 btc per issue back in 2011
thestringpuller: haha took them long enough
thestringpuller: oh they finally sold it
punkman: davout, no gallipi's entity sold the magazine
mats: they're not using it anyway
mats: they paid for it in metric tons of dead chinese
muXne: they were trekign around on foot
muXne: they pretty much invented australia
punkman: "Apple has agreed to accept the Chinese government’s demands to run network safety evaluations on all Apple products before they can be imported into the country."
punkman: you need the preet license to disrupt things
punkman: "Patience, please — ‘legal’ Bitcoin is actually only one year old! That is, even though the Bitcoin source code was posted to the Internet in 2009, it was only clearly legal for American institutions to get involved with it after the IRS tax guidance was published in March 2014"
muXne: like back foor ouch, in the seat
muXne: actuallt hey prolly wanna pretend they have a sucessful bitcoin boyfriend
punkman: "there's an app for that"
muXne: grndmothers must lov eit
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punkman: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2015/01/22/i-paid-25-for-an-invisible-boyfriend-and-i-think-i-might-be-in-love/
davout: getting them to find jobs will be much more painful
mircea_popescu: davout hang the lot.
davout: french civil service is this kind office where the late-comers greet the early-leavers in the stairwell
mircea_popescu: actually, no. just, the french civil service must die.
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mircea_popescu: ie, you won't get a conviction on it straight ; if you're also prosecuting other indictments it can either blow up, ruin your other counts or at most succeed for no benefit, as it'll get rolled into the other counts.
mircea_popescu: except it's a meaningless ofence nobody prosecutes seriously, because it can get the jury to waste time / negotiate a conviction down, and the punishments are minor anyway.
mircea_popescu: davout the usians are insane. it is apparently a crime to have a house where there are drugs.
mircea_popescu: so now the president is claiming that the evil guys (unspecified) that made the da guy falsely claim she's involved in destrtoying the trial of the iranian terrorists that blew up the jews, also killed him, to make her look even worse!
mircea_popescu: dude the argentina drama...
mircea_popescu: heh, there's actually a us felony charge of "maintaining a dwelling."
punkman: I mean they add a vowel in front of words starting with s
mircea_popescu: nah, the dropped e is a french specialty.
punkman: like they can't say spain, stella, etc
punkman: s==es is kinda fun, do the argentines do that?
davout: makes spanish sound like the php of languages
davout: the b == v is pretty interesting
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the other end of the spectrum, argentine spanish spekers can not actually distinguish b, p v and f
davout: no i think there's something to this
mircea_popescu: mon cul / mon cou is certainly in the same position :D
davout: all the americans i know trying to learn french had a problem with "mon cul", "ma queue", "mon cou"
mircea_popescu: "it's the same damned thing!"
mircea_popescu: davout in other news, rewatching oscar i had the pleasure to expose anglophone ear to the delices of "ta maman / ton amant / demander ta main". no differences could be perceived.
mircea_popescu: "retards embarassing themselves" hour ?
mircea_popescu: "In the year of '61, we left our native land, 'cause we could not bend our spirits to the tyrant's stern command. So we rallied 'round our Buckner, while our hearts were sad and sore, to offer our blood for freedom as our fathers did before...."
mircea_popescu: a 2 block orphan that's 122 blocks shorter than the main chain is never going to be main.
mircea_popescu: a 900 block long orphan that's 5 blocks shorter than the main chai nshould not be discarded.
mircea_popescu: <mod6> In later versions, they have a cap of 750 blocks max for the orphan map iirc. << yes, and it's idiotic.
mod6: @ block 1236XX i'll have to check back in on it in the am.
asciilifeform: 'If the bootROM detects the 64-bit UART boot pattern (0xBB 0x11 0x22 0x33 0x44 0x55 0x66 0x77) injected by the user, as an indication to start the Xmodem protocol and the UART boot process); it configures the appropriate MPPs to operate as UA0_RXD and UA0_TXD, as in the previous sub-section and starts the Xmodem protocol to load the image from UART to the DDR.'
asciilifeform: pp. 297 has the actual magic string.
asciilifeform: not necessary as they are currently offered, but if they're a loss-leader and mircea_popescu buys 10,000 of them...
asciilifeform: 88f6180 << see esp. pp. 290. unit can be force-fed firmware through uart during boot, whether board manufacturer wants it or not.
mod6: so if the new block is not the genesis block, and the new blocks prev hash != best chain hash, run Reorganize
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2014 19:08:21; decimation: the question is: if this isn't a scam, where are they going to trade bitcoin?
decimation: re: winklevoss exchange << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-08-2014#786414 << well, I guess that explains what they are going to do
mod6: Lastly, it recursively processes any orphan blocks that are depended on it, and deletes them from the map.
mod6: in v0.5.3, afaik, it looks for dups, then (with checkpoints) it checks to see if the block has a timestamp previous to the last checkpoint, then if it can't find a prev block it puts it in a holding area until one is found.
decimation: re: midwestern blandness < yes, it's a weird phenomenon. try going to an indian restaurant in say, chicago, and have them give you an average level of spice
mircea_popescu: "another chain at least 120 blocks longer" or something sane like that ?
mircea_popescu: mod6 do you know right off what's the logic that deems an orphan chain no longer worth tracking ?
asciilifeform: mod6: linked somewhere in there.
mod6: i'll have to look back. i spent a bunch of time running gdb & valgrind earlier in the month.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the xbox was a loss leader. heck, the 94 playstation was a loss leader
mircea_popescu: no srsly, the way computiong works, no loss leader stays a loss leader for long.
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mircea_popescu: yet another aspect of neoteny.
mircea_popescu: cheese's not really their thing. what passes for "sharp" cheddar in washington dc is in fact barely more than cream fraiche.
mircea_popescu: the thing is, us folk, and especially midwesterners (which is what washington is, in spite of all pretense) have very VERY bland tastes and a taste for blandness.
decimation: I think it is, they tried to open a shop in wash dc
decimation: did you ever go there?
decimation: asciilifeform: there was a cheese shop in downtown dc called 'cowgirl creamery' that closed down
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know the cheese shop sketch ?
asciilifeform spends more on cheese than on bandwidth, electronics, fuel put together
mircea_popescu: i have another.
asciilifeform: incidentally, if these are also to function as 'wallets'... i haven't any notion of whether, e.g., 'pogo', even has an rng.
mircea_popescu: their master is fresh out of stupid school.
mircea_popescu: they're too dumb to count.
asciilifeform: if seriously contemplating this, it is absolutely essential that 'the sapper not err'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: trick is to get them out and plugged in, it would appear
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i really never looked at anything they pushed out after the hearn fork.
mircea_popescu: once there's a million dollar worth of them in the wild, "upgrading" bitcoin is this good joke.
mircea_popescu: this is the ender of worlds, as it were.
mircea_popescu: anyway, mod6 ben_vulpes : asciilifeform has a point, it'd be ideal if this can be wrapped up with a foundation blessed bitcoin core, and one that has the bad seed model snipped out ideally.
mod6: but, this is 10% of the memory i'm used to runing with
mircea_popescu: still have to unpucker the cock enough for as much as a dribble to come out
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes:dealbook.nytimes.com/2015/01/22/winklevoss-twins-aim << yeah yeah, they've been aiming at the toilet for three years now.
asciilifeform: https://www.exploitee.rs/index.php/PogoPlug_Mobile << unit in photo is the ~$12 version sans sata
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: jurov, ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu - if one of you presently has a 0.5.3.x in a vm, try running under hard constraint of 128 or 256m. see when croaks. << it doesn't croak if it has the blockchain prebuilt, that part's for sure.
mod6: basically; patches include so far, your patches, ben's rm UPNP & the bdb config update patches.
mod6: asciilifeform: irc stuff is still in there.
mod6: here's a script that will build everything without the rm_checkpoints patch, with exception to the version number update:
asciilifeform: ditto for the irc mechanism (is that still in 0.5.3 ?)
asciilifeform: right now there are, iirc, hardcoded - and possibly phoundation-subvertable - seeds.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6: one patch that probably needs to happen in time for the 'fork war' is manual seed config.
mod6: and so should you. I'll be tabling that, updating the "Patch guide" and pulling the tarball with that patch down from the website as soon as my other vm hits current block.
mod6: in my most recent regression tests ( this past week, i've been leaving out the rm_checkpoints patch )
ben_vulpes: now there's an interesting notion
asciilifeform: mod6: i picked up the sata-enabled 'pogo', will devote an hour or two to giving it a shot this weekend.
mod6: it would be neat-o to see this run on some sort of commercial router with a large flash-rom in there.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu posed a question re: what might be the cheapest reasonably-compact machine that will run 0.5.3.
ben_vulpes: i'm not entirely up to date on the thread, asciilifeform
asciilifeform: mod6, ben_vulpes: as i understand, if the hypothetical node has a working oomkill mechanism, it will - mostly - run without intervention
mod6: i'll put it on the list here...
asciilifeform: again, i have not tried these machines.
asciilifeform: jurov: their 'p22' appears to ship with 256m. ~25 usd.
jurov: amazon sells them between $20-$60 depending on version
asciilifeform: for, iirc, the same cost.
asciilifeform: the older 'pogoplug' actually shipped with 256m.
asciilifeform: 128m promises to be tight, to say the least, with current 0.5.3.x
asciilifeform: they have sata jacks as well.
asciilifeform: let the morons pay.
kakobrekla: you have other source?
asciilifeform: so far, as i understand, the hardware is a loss-leader.
asciilifeform: a year if you buy their idiot chumpcloud thing
asciilifeform: 'pogoplug' may actually be the cheapest linux box presently sold.
Apocalyptic: alright, from what I got so far the ODROID-U2 looks decent, with a Cortex-A9 though
Apocalyptic: asciilifeform, out of these thousands boards to chose from, know any that features a Cortex-A57 CPU ?
asciilifeform: gigabit ethernet.
asciilifeform: http://wiki.openwrt.org/_detail/media/mlw221-02.jpg?id=toh%3Akingston%3Amlw221 << instead of shielding the wireless card, as traditional...
asciilifeform: the 'verbatim' appears to be available in massive qty. 802.11+gb eth.
decimation: asciilifeform: there's a guide for booting 'edgerouter lite' with gentoo https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/MIPS/ERLite-3
asciilifeform: 'wistor' schematics << chinese have not posted them, it seems, in the usual places. yet.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: often, they are not.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how hard is to field-upgrade these rams ?
asciilifeform: http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/easyacc/wizard8800?s[]=mips << almost the idea, imho, physical embodiment for a node; but the hero who can stuff node into 32m is not yet born
mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/98205cc2e0379b675c31617e77233033/tumblr_ng38y4I2Li1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg there you go mod6
mats: jurov:it's more about acquiring useful muscle memory bits << kung fu is not a system of fighting, its a system of thought. you must outthink your opponent, whatever form he takes... because some of them will be more than just men.
mod6: well, i could be wrong. i just saw a thing where they were telling some guy running a way forward version that he should add more swap or some such nonsense. but yeah... so it's been in there for a while.
PeterL: pete_dushenski I tried to put in a fix to scoopbot, he should respond to your blog now, let me know the next time you post something
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla a the x may be it.
mod6: yeah, i've read on place that they have this leakyness -- crashing problem all the way up to .9
mod6: a few days ago, I had been looking mapOrphanBlocks as a possible reason that it runs itself out of ram as this structure goes unchecked in size in v0.5.3 -- when I was at ~180,000 blocks, these are the stats that I had built up so far:
mats: re: router discussion, seems to me the obv solution is an OpenWrt 'package'
nubbins`: kakobrekla let's see the diffs :D
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu> did jack. < no leak in newer version, so they actually fixed it
nubbins`: your handy pocket node is already there
undata: pile up on itself when the previous cron hadn't finished munging graphs
undata: hah, I had munin on a micro and it'd help take down the instance
kakobrekla: recall the munin charts i posted
pete_dushenski: that's a funny nickname then
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> not require carpentry << replacing the soldered-in flash i can see, with the user's choice : 64, 128, we. but other than that, ideally nothing
asciilifeform: Apocalyptic: if you like 'arm', there are a thousand boards to choose from.
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> straight-up, there's an opportunity to make money selling plug-n-play nodes << there is. i'd advertise it.
Apocalyptic: asciilifeform, what high end alternative to beagleboard would you recommend, if there is one ?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: imho, the best machine would be one which is readily available off the shelf with chassis, power supply, etc. and not require carpentry
asciilifeform: undata: i have a number of them, for various experiments
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i have 'openbsd' on one of these. also a little sluggish, though not as dreadful as 'raspberry'
nubbins`: straight-up, there's an opportunity to make money selling plug-n-play nodes
undata: wouldn't be bad to know the least amount of computer that could reasonably be expected to keep up with the blockchain for a worthwhile amount of time
nubbins`: http://blog.timmattison.com/archives/2014/01/02/compiling-bitcoind-on-the-beaglebone-black/
pete_dushenski: the man has services to provide!
nubbins`: or w/e they're called
pete_dushenski: i was thinking that someone in the wot needs to get a dice site going and i was going to see if j-d was in need of a new owner but it looks like it's still running?
undata: if the tutorial included bootstrap.dat maybe, and even then would take a lifetime to catch up from there
nubbins`: asciilifeform even the "B+" version?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: they used a defective i/o chip, which is abominably slow
undata: the pi is teeerrible
nubbins`: two raspberry pis for the cost of a $100 router :P
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do you have a favourite piece of hardware in mind? preferably one which you know to be readily available around the world.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it would be quite simple to distribute a binary image that a monkey could pipe to usb flash and insert. for man, rather than monkey, one would prefer a 'thebitcoin.foundation'-style cookbook with signed configs/patches...
nubbins`: "The battery just died in my camera, so i am taking a quick break"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so that anyone can make one, and perhaps some of the redditards actually will.
asciilifeform: (it was to concern the usg dept. of firmware-diddlers)
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: glad you enjoyed the articles. i actually have a new one in the works, but - no time presently to finish it.
asciilifeform: what did we need these for again...?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm not certain, however, that 'edgerouter' would be the optimal candidate for the mega-cheap node. the device itself is around 100 usd, and a decently large flash drive is yet again a quarter of that.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i generally don't write the kind of article that doesn't require at least a full day's concentration.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: near the end of that page there is a script for cross-compile to mips on a larger machine (e.g. x86)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: router... instructions << see this site: http://rtfm.net/FreeBSD/ERL >> the only modification is, take a larger usb flash drive, follow his gpart resize instructions.
BingoBoingo: I'm telling you the better version of this scam would be an artisan laser etching booth with a placebo joystick.
davout: i can taste the absurd
mircea_popescu: davout actually the best continuation of the laser handcarving drama would be if the guy turns out to be a midget chinese woman that does it with her nails.
davout: semantically the french "labourer" is a subset of "to labour"
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/9cebc0d25b6527f339ca7a05bc59a012/tumblr_ng3je7D9CM1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg
mircea_popescu: "you know you could have had duck a la reine for the same money ?"
mircea_popescu goes to starred restaurant, orders happy meal. they put one together by hand. me is gratified.
mircea_popescu: "I NEVER SAID THAT IT WAS FROM MY OWN MIND, I HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT I USED STOCK IMAGES ON SOME OF THE PIECES. that is not a crime, i own the rights to them. 70% of your metal coins on the forum have stock image elements on them. Better start a dozen more witch hunts."
davout: and afaik thermos isn't that big of an irc guy
mircea_popescu: davout ah there is that.
davout: mircea_popescu: how will it know theymos is around if doesn't hang out in a chan where gribble also idles?
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davout: hah, w/e not much ppl there, and no gribble, so no ;;later tell
nubbins`: tell him no sweat if all the nubbins rep threads don't get restored ;D
nubbins`: someone with a twatter account ask thermos to manually restore the woodcollector scamzor thread
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mircea_popescu: midnightmagic: ehh.. the testimoney of a friend. what's that worth << sworn testimony is sworn testimony. unless the witness gets impeached, it's worth as much as an employee's testimony
mthreat: mircea_popescu: hadn't seen that article... but lots of ex-germans in them there parts of patagonia