asciilifeform: btw there's a 'seekrit' 30% linear speed boost if one uses unrolled combas.
diana_coman: on one hand there is what mircea_popescu says that yes, by now and given the type of rot it's actually to be expected; on the other hand it's of the sort that still sounds...unbelievable, yes
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile in local lulz, confiscated drugs liberated from the police in motorcycle snatch and grab https://www.teledoce.com/telemundo/policiales/en-san-jose-robaron-145-envoltorios-de-droga-que-habian-incautado-a-un-hombre-minutos-antes/
a111: Logged on 2016-11-26 22:20 mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the slut party, http://68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lard124fV41qzw9y2o1_1280.jpg
a111: Logged on 2016-11-26 19:16 mircea_popescu: and in other news, a... bar. http://68.media.tumblr.com/95befa3bb9c2e4fac4f3dfb4a94b23e6/tumblr_mrxj9415lX1sfcru6o1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: nuffin to write home about; but there, current.
asciilifeform: my reasoning is 'must pick a number, distinguish item from the endless moron march of firefox etc'
mircea_popescu: see ? there's ~reasoning~.
asciilifeform: e.g. you gotta keep'em from linking up with neighbouring pile o'jerries, they'll encircle you and yer done
mircea_popescu: well what's the incentive ?
asciilifeform: let's say scout reported a 1k-man garrison in the point of origin. and nobody knows precisely how many hauptmann fuckface will be sending.
asciilifeform: let's hear mircea_popescu's logical end of the stick tho. mircea_popescu finds himself partizan commander again, in the field. has 300 men. how he decides how many to send to ambush nazi convoy ?
mircea_popescu: the fundamental promise involved in the concept of number, as a scalar measure of something
asciilifeform: i'll be surprised if i haven't nailed the last comment typo by the time done adding chapter-sized knobs, tbh
a111: Logged on 2014-04-29 22:56 asciilifeform: 'Dijkstra said angrily. (Hed been visibly shaking his head through out the talk even before this outburst.) How many bugs are we going to tolerate? he demanded. Seven, Teitelman shot back.'
a111: Logged on 2017-07-18 22:58 asciilifeform: whaack is quite likely thinking of the bulk of the b00k, which consists of blockcipher liquishit which is complicated for no reason at all other than the religion where 'it is confusing to ME, author, and therefore Must Be Hard To Break'
mircea_popescu: in short : "why not say the magic number 3 ?" "because maybe i need to fix a typo, and i dun wanna lose 1 out of 3 for this, but i do wanna fix it" "so how do you know 1 in 255 is ok to lose for this ?" "um http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-18#1686299 "
a111: Logged on 2018-12-28 17:15 mircea_popescu: seems to me the unspoken heuristic is, "large enough so it's not meaningful [and therefore large enough to not bother] and small enough so it's not larger than some other number i thought about".
asciilifeform: there's at least 1 still in'ere.
mircea_popescu: right. and such a thing as typos in those comments is possible. this entire line is the result of your ineffectual sideswiping.
mircea_popescu: not proof ; comments. like knuth wrote them.
asciilifeform: imho the haskellism where 'program carries proof' is generally a sad thing and results in soup
mircea_popescu: seems to me the unspoken heuristic is, "large enough so it's not meaningful [and therefore large enough to not bother] and small enough so it's not larger than some other number i thought about".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if someone knows how to make ffa moar 'docs is the program'-y, oughta write in and tell asciilifeform , cuz i came as close to it as i knew how.
mircea_popescu: yet our ideal is literate code, as in, docs in the program.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if i v-versioned the ~docs~, we'd be at 50-ish, nao, i suppose
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's more than that : a) that there's such a thing as a correct program ; b) to which one can converge ; c) in a finite number of itemized steps ; d) the count therewhich can be known in advance.
asciilifeform: ( where it dun make sense to make anymoar changes without simply baking new item out of the dismembered corpse of old )
mircea_popescu: the vpatch that adds a "except if number is 5577, math doesn't work for 5577" is a VERY different patch from the vpatch that adds "here's a sentence ended by a comma turned ended by a dot instead"
asciilifeform: the declaration i want to make with 'kelvins' is that there is such a thing as a correct program.
asciilifeform: which can carry some qty of change ( i hold to the practice of keeping'em reasonably compact )
a111: Logged on 2018-12-19 17:09 mircea_popescu: natural language, however, ablates the trees for "convenience" so to speak, ie, uses commonly what's known in computing as sparse trees.
mircea_popescu: in short, putting numbers on the human mind's http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-19#1881724 process is gonna be painful.
asciilifeform: a patch in the context is a vpatch.
mircea_popescu: the larger problem is "what is meant by a patch". i doubt the item can survive ~even one~ major alterations. meanwhile "hey, you spelled theyre with an apostrophe" needn't be counted (but need be fixed)
mircea_popescu: turns out he doesn't know ; in context probably dunbar's number is the saner approach.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the discussion spawned from me going "wtf is the POINT of even counting to 255, nobody can fit such in head" that then merged into "how do you know ?" which resulted in the predictable "i wonder how the fuck does ~he~ know"
mircea_popescu: there's great cause to attack at dawn : morale superiority. there's also great cause to attack at night, note eg dracula's not famous for attacking the turkish camp at dawn and nearly making sultan run off.
asciilifeform: whether it's 'attack is at quarter past dawn' or 'this needs <=255 patches or fuck it'
asciilifeform: just like shoemakin' and any other art.
mircea_popescu: looky, management is a rational activity. there's nothing wrong with hanging kids for having failed to master spanish in two weeks -- just as long as you can answer as to how you came up wih the two weeks.
asciilifeform: i.e. 'if this thing needs >255 vpatches after today, then asciilifeform is a tard and somebody else ought to do the whole fucking job over'
mircea_popescu: nature found 273.15 i suppose the same way it computed ocean level ; but we're not quite equal to nature.
mircea_popescu: i'm not even sure how that kelvin thing's supposed to work ; notably bothj knuth and mod6 attempted it, but the problem with starting with a number is that you don't know what to pick.
asciilifeform loox at scrolling wwwbox log, waves to the academitards
mircea_popescu: possibly more thick, expected the find :D
asciilifeform: possibly mircea_popescu is simply less thick than asciilifeform and expected the find
asciilifeform: the copy on my www ( and later cleaned further by diana_coman ) is from gpg 1.4.10 ( itself from signed tar that mircea_popescu dug in in '14 )
mircea_popescu: still, gpg itself uses mpi to do the mathing
a111: Logged on 2016-11-26 16:31 asciilifeform: koch's shitball per se is written in such a way that the cruft is glued on with broken glass (all the ciphers are modularized in very gnarly multilayered way, whole thing relies through and through on his weirdo streams thing, 1,001 idiocies)
mircea_popescu: hence why original choice for full sized exponents, "why let enemy enjoy the fruits of his lies"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in my mind the idea was that if you force non-republican software to use republican exponents it will either crash or take forever.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phunphakt, since last night , massive uptick in heathens visiting ffa www, even curl'ing patches. but so far none have the balls to speak up.
asciilifeform: i.e. you win moar from not upending the cache, than you lose by doing erry single bit of modexp and muxing.
asciilifeform: turns out, the entire justification for use of branching in rsa at all, is bogus. ( and 'short exps' aint a justification -- if you know the max length of your e in advance, you can use fixed exponentiator , same as i do )
asciilifeform: ( and incidentally if you disable the bounds checks, having been satisfied with the proofs, ffa speeds up by another 2x 'for phree' )
asciilifeform: but what we find is that -- even on decade-old irons -- he loses moar to the branch predictor, than he wins from skipping
asciilifeform: and that he still gets to skip , theoretically , ~half~ of the work of a modexp with random inputs (half the bits of exp are 0, and in kochian modexp dun result in a mul/square cycle)
mircea_popescu: Turns out, Kochs pile of shit, despite eschewing constant time arithmetic, and being implemented in Overflowandcrashlang
loses the footrace, when given a full-width modular exponentiation (i.e. one where it cannot cheat by skipping over leading zeroes.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i got these too !
a111: Logged on 2018-12-20 15:46 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform on meditation, that piece makes it plainly evident redditardation is ~generational~, not ideological. there sit the russki kids, who'd be in a fine position to understand the problem. god knows they have much better access to much better priors that readily illuminate it.
mircea_popescu: i hope i didn't say something to offend teh russki patriot, did i ? http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-20#1882391 is just a neutral observation, not in any sense ~my fault~ they're morons.
mircea_popescu: in other random not-news, 37.187.150.139 is "ddosing" trilema by loading random pages ; but with a few select "lurkmore.to" pages as referrer.
asciilifeform: there's a surprise waiting, gimme a coupla min
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: in other noose, finished ch14b writeup, will post after proofread.
asciilifeform: what i had, was a lightly patched 'qemu' (removed all the 'acceleration' nonsense that wants to run as root and then gets you owned)
asciilifeform: for all that intel tried, it was not able to stuff anywhere near the poundage of complexity-liquishit found in even old www browser, into x86 .
asciilifeform: ( as well as various incompats. erry 10 or so links that asciilifeform feeds to 'archive', dun actually archive. not even via the 'hypothesis.is' and similar kludges. )
asciilifeform: if he doesn't, he's theoretically open to, e.g. rowhammer.js .
mircea_popescu: dude, the archive russki fellow utterly doesn't do this.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: paradoxically it is the simplest known pill.
asciilifeform: in shitwareology, it is absolutely vital that the instrument be minimally distinguishable from actual 'luser box'. (thinkaboutit.)
asciilifeform used system roughly along these lines for auto-analysis of shitwares
asciilifeform: you bring up the emulated box for each session, and tear it down after (ramdisk).
asciilifeform: the win from this pov is that you dun need the 100kg of liquishit of grasping/emulating js+browserbreakages+etc but only x86 (10kg of liquishit).
asciilifeform: can haz whatever one likes in the emul, even , say, 'internet exploder' complete with bugola, etc
asciilifeform: it is also what e.g. the pokerists, use.
mircea_popescu: subset of turing test, if you will. if there exists means to mechanically distinguish browsering luser from bashing republican, the world is broken.
mircea_popescu: but it occurs to me we kinda HAVE TO maintain the browser===bash equivalency.
asciilifeform: verily, it's pestilentially universal in heathendom www
a111: Logged on 2018-12-01 02:00 asciilifeform: by the time someone reverses, they change it, and force the idjit users to 'upgrade'
mircea_popescu: prime target for pantsuit shenanigans ; i expect a lot of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-01#1877139 going on. because otherwise, very much a problem of http://trilema.com/2016/give-computers-the-vote-theyre-cheaper-than-women-even/
asciilifeform: ( loox like i was wrong re what the subj of thread was; thought it was a js layer lib )
asciilifeform: there were other 'headless browsers'; i've used 'selenium' in particular (~8 or so yrs ago), it worked (then)
mircea_popescu: as things stand right now, though, there IS a hole.
mircea_popescu: we have a hole in the process here, where bash existence is not === browser existence. phantomjs used to fill it, or at least mostly, or so i thought.
mircea_popescu: are you aware that curl will not in point of fact produce copies of shitty imperial websites, because those shitty imperial websides use javascript to fuck with the dom ?
asciilifeform: was speaking specifically of existing browserisms ? then sure.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-25 19:10 asciilifeform: when you add compatibility spackle, serious reader is not saved from reading the thing you spackled over -- on the contrary nao he has to read the ~original~ rubbish ~plus~ your spackle, however much it weighs.
mircea_popescu: state of the art re de-javascriptifying afaik.
mircea_popescu: https://github.com/ariya/phantomjs/issues/15344 << in other not-really-news, phantomjs either died or something like that early this year.
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2018/12/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-september-and-october-1715-part-iii/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of September and October, 1715 - Part III.
billymg: sorry for the slow pace, i'm still learning a lot as i go
billymg: i will look at http://barksinthewind.com/2018/vpy-updated-for-vtools/ for a new version
billymg: yeah, i think i'm using a keccak version vdiff for creating the patch, but attempting to press with a sha v.py
billymg: diana_coman: my understanding was that as long as i created the vpatch with a keccak-compatible vdiff then the hashes would be consistent with genesis and it would be ok. this assumption came from me being able to press vtools and mp-wp with my current v.py (grabbed from the link in the trb setup guide)
diana_coman: billymg, well, if the hash is not keccak, you can't exactly press it on top of a keccak patch; and moreover if the sig doesn't verify then it doesn't press it so how would the changes be there?
billymg: yeah, i've been dragging my feet on that (although the vpatch itself was created with a keccak vdiff tool). will update and report back
mircea_popescu: gotta use the keccak version anyway.
billymg: ok, updated and it now presses but when i inspect the resulting directory the changes aren't there (it also came with an error i saw before on genesis, about a file's hash not matching expected -- i assumed this was because my v.py is pre-keccak)
bvt: i.e. in hanbot genesis, there is a/mp-wp/manifest, while in your vpatch a/manifest
bvt: billymg: it seems that you should move directory mp-wp into directories a, b, not rename them.
billymg: diana_coman: i loaded the necessary files into the patches/ .seals/ .wot directory structure and ran them through v.py (exact steps here: http://billymg.com/2018/10/the-complete-noobs-guide-to-setting-up-mp-wp-on-a-pizarro-rock-chip-server/)
billymg: then vdiff'd
billymg: diana_coman: i made a copy of the directory that came from pressing the genesis (keeping the original), made my changes, then diffed the two directories
a111: Logged on 2018-11-12 20:25 bvt: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-12#1871478 << fixing/replacing the theme is on my todo list, however i still haven't fixed all the problems in wp-admin (png/jpg vs svg), so work on the theme will have to wait a bit.
bvt: billymg: i fixed the links to the images manually, working over version rolled out by BingoBoingo (http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-12#1871585)
billymg: i created the vpatch diff with vdiff pressed from vtools_ksum
trinque: or w/e the gpg replacement's name is
trinque: once off that, I might see about ebuilding trb (with perhaps phf's v+portage work if it surfaces), and then mircea_popescu's gns v-tree, unless gpg replacement surfaces soon, in which case deedbot->peh work
trinque: asciilifeform: walletsnip patch works great, just need to find time to regrind and further test. and aha, meanwhile diverted to cuntoo so we have a l00nix
hanbot: holy cow, why the shit. thank you billymg for spotting!
billymg: the files seem to all be consistently .svg though
billymg: hanbot: going by the vpatch i found here http://thewhet.net/2018/06/mp-wp-genesis-regrind/ or http://btcbase.org/data/mp-wp/ the file does seem to contain a few references to e.g. .jpg.svg, .png.svg
billymg: ahh makes sense then
BingoBoingo: billymg: I just made my theme by deleting stuff from the default and occasionally adding text particular to what I want from my blog.
billymg: but in any case, could also be a quick patch, just to fix the file links
billymg: so wondering if maybe bvt or BingoBoingo caught this and updated, or what's there is from a different release of mp-wp
billymg: in the default theme's css from the genesis press there are some image links that don't resolve because of bad file extensions http://bimbo.club/wp-content/themes/default/style.css
billymg: i also found out why e.g. http://bimbo.club is missing some background images, opposed to e.g. http://bvt-trace.net (and this was the original reason i went in to tweak the css)
asciilifeform: ( rather like what diana_coman's been doing with own proggy )
asciilifeform: it was built on the mmap lib, which in turn gotta be polished off
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fwiw i have the thing written ( and iirc even posted, 'unofficially' ), but it will take some sweat to properly glue & test.
diana_coman: i.e. first strips everything and then applies what it's meant to be
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, it's the theme on top because mine has a bit of very heavy handed my-way-or-the-highway re styles
asciilifeform: but given as it is used on the classical net, will have to eat it.
asciilifeform: ( implication , naturally, is that even if the sig coad were to be replaced with constanttimeism, it would not appreciably change the cpu cost of noad.. )
asciilifeform: (~100% of the ram footprint is blown on indexes, also)
asciilifeform: might recall, asciilifeform profiled the thing, it spends almost all cpu time in the db. will be interesting when we bolt on the O(1) indexer instead of the bdb horror.
asciilifeform: no ooms either, ever since tossed 'orphanages' etc
asciilifeform: will note, even with the heap fragging nonsense, current trb has quite reasonable ram footprint; e.g. i run 'zoolag' on a 2GB box, and never manually reset aside from when deploying patch (coupla times in past yr)
asciilifeform: then, i suppose, blox fell reasonably often into its open mouth.
asciilifeform: need for sane sync only became obv to asciilifeform once he fixed the oom crapola etc
asciilifeform: ( not only luck of ~the network~, but , perversely, the sadder the box , moar often it gets reset, the better pre-aggr trb worked.. )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sounds about right. ( tho greatly depends on 'luck of the draw' )
mircea_popescu: speaking of penalties : i dusted off ancient trb (pre agression), just for curiosity. turns out it sucks ~1 block/minute in the 450k range (ie, catches up with a year's chain per month, sorta thing).
asciilifeform: in other noose, asciilifeform finally finished massaging the 14b coad; patch + writeup on conveyor for tonight
mircea_popescu: billymg nice! as it happens nicoleci 's been looking for a way to put her pic in the header, so maybe work together on a theme ?
billymg: once i get the flow down and get this first patch working it will be easy to create more patches
billymg: also i should note that i didn't include the css changes to the default theme in this patch because i thought a user might want to add one but not the other
billymg: the signature verifies, and i believe i have the diff and manifest syntax correct, but i'm getting the "not found in flow" error
a111: Logged on 2018-10-22 21:26 billymg: what if i submitted a vpatch that adds the js-text-selection feature and the few lines of CSS to the "default" theme in mp-wp (blue header one)?
billymg: hi all, this past week i've been able to take advantage of the holiday vacation time to get a local workbench set up. i now have a proper gnat so was able to build phf's vdiff. i also have my blog running locally which makes it a lot easier to work on and test changes
asciilifeform: 'a 24-core ARM Cortex-A53 processor with 32GB of RAM; but the OS only sees 29.4GB of that RAM' << lol, what's the rest for, built-in botnet ??
BingoBoingo: In other news, apparently the Chicoms are getting ready to bring hard drive Gigs to RAM marketing https://archive.is/wBqSR#selection-3543.123-3543.242
mircea_popescu: come hell or high water, i'd rather manage my own household than whatever it is, nbc's movie arm, holcim's european sales, romania's only battleship or only central bank, WHATEVER it is -- if it comes with a "but must have some idiot" coda i'd rather fucking manage my household.
asciilifeform: coupla yrs ago , city sewage pipe to asciilifeform's hovel collapsed (from ~earlier~ inept construction work). monkey crew show up, digs, fails to find (!) . finally foreman, greybeard d00d in his 60s, takes over, cursing, drives the thing with own hands...
asciilifeform: 'go to war with the army you have...'
mircea_popescu: you got me there, and while in these irons i guess i'll also confess it was my plan all along, back in 2012, to find some lukewarm half-invested dood to do bitcoin-assets.
mircea_popescu: and what you do out of sheer and unmitigated self hatred, is hire the one moron.
mircea_popescu: because that's what you do, there's like 500 sane, safe and consensual folks, cv in hand, to pick amongst
mircea_popescu: tbh, i empatized with the ~warehouse manager~.
asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ddm7r/?raw=true << for compleetness of the l0gz, 1337 w4r3z -- sheckley, 'prize of peril'.
mircea_popescu: "hello girlies & morons, write me 500 words as to why sophocles isn't euripides" slash "hello dorky, you've got 30 seconds". what the hell's the difference.
mircea_popescu: i want to see some idiot "avoiding certain death in midget sub" throiugh the process of flailing around wildly and then dying mechanically about as much as i want a pile of sophomore history of philosophy extemporaneous essay-form papers to go through.
mircea_popescu: really, why do you care ? not like there's any possibility of empathizing with the derp.
mircea_popescu: i dunno that i could be bothered.
asciilifeform: re 'reality show', in 1950s robert sheckley had little story re 'glorious fyootoor' where nomoar pantsuit laws, and so folx free to kill themselves creatively for money; and tv program is made where folx are knocked out and then wake up in race car, or midget sub, or jet fighter, whichever is farthest from their ordinary derp life, and filmed as they try an' avoid certain deaths
mircea_popescu: anyway. canadians getting involved in things, the next step after women get involved in things. there's a spiral of decay, and comedy's not gonna do any better than the british commonwealth did.
asciilifeform: ( and of course only pretty gurlz pushin' the crates, wearing 0-epsilon )
asciilifeform: nao with actual 100kg crates , on other hand !
asciilifeform: who the fuk wants to see mechanical sokoban played by some derp
mircea_popescu: (not played by anyone who played it originally ; but definitely meanwhile fouind by the hipstery 20yos looking to pose)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ~same folx been eatin' it ever since. tastes, reportedly ( asciilifeform did not have occasion to try, but father -- did , for some reason it ended up in orcistan ) like low-grade beef. << From what I've heard aquatic mammals tend to have a flavor distinct from beef. This may differ for full oceanic mammals, but river dolphins are a thing.
mircea_popescu: twitch.tv, there's a whole "platform" website predicated on someone caring / people being too lazy to actually play.
mircea_popescu: what was that thing, with the abandoned storage boxes.
asciilifeform: horrors!111, all the 'culture' i missed...
mircea_popescu: carehehehehefully "curating" and "promoting" their "online business" predicated on "you don't have to actually buy colored wool / playdo to be on etsy"
mircea_popescu: these schmucks actually still exist, believe it or not, "content creators" consisting of a fat dork jacking off to seth rogen's podcast and a derpy chick carefully borderline sleeving her new york writer's boots.
asciilifeform: ~same folx been eatin' it ever since. tastes, reportedly ( asciilifeform did not have occasion to try, but father -- did , for some reason it ended up in orcistan ) like low-grade beef.
mircea_popescu: they should prolly do a whaleman's association.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they will when the whale-eaters die. ( it's mostly folx in their 60s-70s doing it. )
mircea_popescu: back in the 1800s lots of actual merchants, such things ended with repatriated gold. pretty much drove the history of the us in that century.
mircea_popescu: nah. crisis is when merchants catch a glimpse of the nudity of the supposed "reserve currency".
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: They call it crisis when it happens suddenly
asciilifeform: i thought 'crisis' is what the local derps spew when their national horse finally goes to glue
mircea_popescu: the thing with the glue factory is that when the nags look good they ~all look ~equally good, and when they look real they all look ~equally naggy.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is dubious, hence the fiatist's notion of "crisis"
mircea_popescu: one day maybe they get a brain, start doing something other than mouthbreathing kids renditions of parental activity.
mircea_popescu: i recall back in the late days of bahamas all sorta orclands had large posters with local ugly morons "el negro puede!!!"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i understand there's always been a 'dollar' (in the sense of best-looking-horse at fiatola glue factory) at any given time
BingoBoingo: He beat his capture "Blanco" party's resistance and got certified as one of their Pre-Candidates.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, it's about time to update the Political snapshot. Looking like the Sartori fellow with the Russian bride worth more than this country is going to so the "surprising" Great Again win.
BingoBoingo: Every year less people keep their job, and employment fell 20-30 percent between 2009 and 2015
mircea_popescu: the dolarization of economies is simply orcs following washington agenda. they sell dollars to push this angle whereby dollar is even remotely something like a reserve currency.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> it's a wonder anyone gets to keep a job for a whole damned year. << Increasingly they don't
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's this retard thing where Uruguay imagine it can have a central bank. Looking at all of the possible things it could control it decides to do inflation as a structural thing and try to keep the country solvent by chasing this moving target they made. THE CENTRAL BANK SELLS DOLLARS TO KEEP USD FROM FALLING VERSUS THE PESO!!! sort of insanity follows.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck is he gonna be getting INCREASES ?!
mircea_popescu: how the fuck is the figuring go, "all the kids are healthy and fine, spend all time in school, and as a result every year i'm worth more" ?! more the fuck what, obviously there's more and more people who can do his job by virtue of women spawning and fewer and fewer people who need his job done, by virtue of his having been at work.
mircea_popescu: the only situations that result in that, plague, war and indiscriminate carnage -- those they hate.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo what the fuck is this baked in expectation of "aumento" anyway ? what, schmuck sat an ass a whole year, he expects somehow though the magic of planet's powers alligned he is now worth MORE ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman just tryna help you figure out what's going on. [allowed] tags should nest correctly etc, there's some breakage afoot somewhere.
diana_coman: the links are anyway with own style applied, hence yes, nothing to see if you want to overwrite the theme's style for links
BingoBoingo: bvt: ran the chown, let me know if there are any issues or if there is anything else I can help with
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2017/lets-revisit-the-google-is-irrelevant-discussion/#comment-127283 << for completeness
bvt: the result of command from 'enable uploader' message is 'permission denied'. afaik changing owner of a file works only for root.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-26#1883211 << lol, it'll hang where the jp hiragana thing previously did ( the latter i have fit-in-head, dunneed nomoar.. )
bvt: hello. BingoBoingo: applied and tested the changes from your first message, everything works. ty!
BingoBoingo: nicoleci bvt mats cruciform: Addenum to enable the mp-wp uploader http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/YvpmR/?raw=true
mod6: Awesome Sir. I'll check back later then. Thanks all.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you know you can do multiple recipients in the same item, yes ?
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: so there you go, alf takes the crown for home decorating, becomes the new goodbye girl!
a111: Logged on 2018-12-26 14:53 asciilifeform: plan with the mega-photo, is that -- when i figure out how to stitch'em -- will make metre-sized poster for wall, to scribble on as i reverse the thing...
a111: Logged on 2018-12-26 13:08 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-25#1882987 -> my tests show that you can rely on <strong> </strong> for it to show in bold (b, em seem to be eaten); in further infuriating things, <blockquote> works but ONLY if used on separate line (i.e. this is a <blockquote>bbw </blockquote> will do nothing but this is a \n <blockquote>biegw</blockquote ...works
BingoBoingo: I'm about to send the dispatches to current customers
a111: Logged on 2018-12-26 13:02 diana_coman: at any rate, the fact that the summaries seem to elicit further discussion and clarification of the original topics is further benefit (I did not expect it / think of it at all initially)
a111: Logged on 2018-12-26 12:58 diana_coman: perhaps unsurprisingly, the relative lengths of logs are not quite enough to predict relative lengths of summaries, ofc; the 10-16 dec summary is a whopping 5.1k compared to 3.7k 26-2Dec despite logs being 31.3k vs 54.4k respectively; anyways, I'm rather relieved it turns out that the summary IS at least shorter than the logs!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-26#1883094 << do i have this right, so the logs were ~43% shorter but this drove a summary ~37% longer ? ie, snr varied by at least a factor of 2.4 ?
mod6: Anyway, I just stopped in as I've been resting, reflecting, doing a spot of work on these forthcoming blog posts over the month.
mod6: Cool, yeah, I hear ya there. We smoked a ham, was pretty great actually.
mircea_popescu: well, the paste was deliberate, but i'd have deliberated otherwise if i realised it's multiline
mircea_popescu: kcHPKqv4Vh/wXr/joKFYa/Bv70RS24WUUiqsq3Ta50XXY/9/wlOW9zLTx4NGGR2XDbTJXl0XF4LTkQMc8DHw1Fq2b6AxvQRmdjKg= << in other news, reach the core is a fun little game.
mircea_popescu: though there's about as many ro.vampires as us.cosplayers.
mircea_popescu: thus therefore, the romanian "vampire" is ~the us mall rat hanging out by hot topic ; not the cosplayer.
mircea_popescu: romania is a small country, and it is incorrect to identify groups by their rarity. a 10k demographic in romania is NOT "the same" as a 10k demographic in the us ; it's the same as the 100k one.
mircea_popescu: THAT is the level.
mircea_popescu: it's actually a different demographic. ~these~, the moron you saw in romania, advertise themselves in the us as "having a hobby" in their corporate cv. they go race rc boats every third weekend or somesuch.
asciilifeform: in gringolandia these folx helpfully advertise themselves with '1337 h4xx0r' tshirts. but perhaps they dun sell those in orcland.
mircea_popescu: (everyone with two neurons to rub together long left)
asciilifeform: y'know the type; prolly runs a 'tor' node, hangs out with Framedragger's chix, etc
asciilifeform: prolly belonged to an amstan-like fella of 1 type or another
asciilifeform: i saw one in ro, in the back of a parked car
mircea_popescu: (the study of masks, btw, is a very large part of anthropology, for very good reasons. not much to study these days, but what can you do.)\
asciilifeform: naturally, iirc they're a disney catalogue item
mircea_popescu: if one day they discovered orange paint one cent per ton cheaper than w/e sorta-like sickly white man pallor pigment currently in use...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform faux choice gotta be maintained. like any other http://trilema.com/2009/inchipuiti-va/ item.
asciilifeform: cuz faux 'choice' is part of the product.
mircea_popescu: but there's ~economic interest~ in ~actually maintaining the divide~. not like guyfawkes foundation is out there buying ads.
asciilifeform: but forsomereason they havent yet
asciilifeform: aand if 'coke' were to merge with 'pepsi', the # of drinkers of phosphoricacid-cum-cornliquishit would remain ~same
mircea_popescu: entirely the same ones, too,
mircea_popescu: and they're known for a strict incapacity to maintain multiple loci of interest. so if indeed orangemanguyfawkes masks would be available, then #orangemanguyfawkes would have 1mn users ; but as they aren't, thereofe #orangeman has 800k users and #guyfawkes 200k users.