PeterL: any idea when these were last updated?
asciilifeform: PeterL: i for one am a little surprised that -any- of them work
PeterL: asciilifeform: are we supposed to be suprised by the result?
the_scourge: unless romania is doing better on the equalisation front than.... everywhere else
the_scourge: you could try asking your local cultural equality office of liberty to see if they can make it needs based.... get some equalisation fucks for the really needy
trinque goes to tell the welfare queens and trailer whores what sex is
the_scourge: sex is 100% merit. it's the one thing that can't be made needs-based even temporarily
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: that's the opposite of how sex works
the_scourge: do you have to prove need now? needs-based systems are a sign of the apocalypse :)
PeterL: you are replacing the internet?
mircea_popescu: !up the_scourge
mircea_popescu: there was also a case in ww1 when the romanian general was put in command of all the german units and so on.
mircea_popescu: (one of the rare cases when a romanian was supreme commander of the russian troops in any war theater)
gribble: Romanian War of Independence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_War_of_Independence>; Romanian War of Independence - Simple English Wikipedia, the ...: <http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_War_of_Independence>; Russo-Turkish War (1877–78) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo- (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: ;;google The Romanian War of Independence
mircea_popescu: then later in ww2, romanian army went all the way to stalingrad, raping and pillaging with the germans, then got beaten back, went over to like, prague, and then after the war there was all that "sociailism" thingee/
mircea_popescu: anyway, the turks mowed them down, and so the commanding officer sent the romanian kind a "plz save us telegram'. so the romanian army moved in, beat back the turks, took some impossible redoubts, lost like a third of the men and that was that.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller well, romania as a sovereign nation was mostly constructed around this event where the czar declared war on the turks on the fumes of imagining himself like the germans, and buying the british propaganda about the "dead man of europe". the turks were the origina lrhodesia.
thestringpuller: ah yea. i remember coming accross that pic on trilema (random page of the front page thing)
thestringpuller: well given my family is on exponential curve in wealth (only a generation ago we were in the projects), i'd say the karma is coming back around
mircea_popescu: oddly enough, i dislike just the russians.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: one of my ancestors was lynched in mississipi so the family isn't a lynch virgin
mircea_popescu: stress test the system, as it were. see what happens when there's i dunno, 500k pps ddos, but not from wordpress to me.
mircea_popescu: assbot: Exploiting the Robocaller Gap - Global Guerrillas << speaking of this ben_vulpes, how about a site where people can get bitcoin for reading messages on the screen, then autodial them into say 5k different emergency zones across the us.
mircea_popescu: are you a lynch virgin, thestringpuller ?
mircea_popescu: the "lynch me harder" thing is lulzy tho.
mircea_popescu: show up with a blue one then, mess with everyone's head.
mircea_popescu: heh. so bring a girl, and go "don't lynch me, take her instead" then run.
thestringpuller: the jews
mircea_popescu: maybe he figures it the fuck out eventually.
mircea_popescu: o that's who the old broad was ?
cazalla: https://twitter.com/brucefenton/status/558819102861819904 1 comment on reddit, obv they didn't get the validation they were seeking the first time around
mircea_popescu: the film's unwatchable except for a kevin spacey monologue
mircea_popescu: there's a pretty fucking bad film about three stooges that conspire to kill their bosses.
cazalla: anyway, this elite retreat was announced weeks ago, clearly it didn't get much traction so they called up coindesk to promote it
thestringpuller: kinda like Michael Scott from the Office just not as dimwitted.
thestringpuller: like the nVidia d00d
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller yeah, some don't always.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: some CEO's don't always rape their employees
mircea_popescu: then those people lose morale and start coming to me with the stories, which hurts "everyone", which is to say : the scammers ; their friends.
mircea_popescu: which is true, it isn't. the us is built on a corporate culture of empty pretense and outright fraud. course they tend to stick together.
mircea_popescu: then those people want to express their outrage. sometimes they do. then they get letters from the idiot "management" about how THIS IS NOT OUR CORPORATE CULTURE
mircea_popescu: jurov: "Another example is that some CEOs fear to attack known scams in public because..." lol so they will attack them privately? << they have a serious strategic problem : employees are normally decent, intelligent human beings they're raping.
mircea_popescu: yo fenton, miss tits what's her name didn't manage, and she had the tits. this is not how you do it, seriously, pretending like you matter works in whoredom, not in finance.
mircea_popescu: "Organized by Bruce Fenton of the Bitcoin Association and Atlantic Financial, participants in the first annual Satoshi Roundtable include top executives from companies such as Blockchain, BitGo, BitPesa, Chain, ChangeTip, Coinapult and MegaBigPower, as well as noted VCs in the space such as Erik Voorhees and Roger Ver."
BingoBoingo: It's the middle of winter and I fetched mail jacketless without feeling a chill. Scam weather.
mircea_popescu: they're just being inclusive to all climates while working with technology to resolve the problems of the future.
cazalla: did they solve global warming or something? it's summer yet this is day 4 of putting the heating on each morning
mircea_popescu: PeterL: If you know what you are doing << most of rural transylvania still makes its own moonshine. most still operators spend the three days it takes entirely drunk.
trinque: asciilifeform: sure, I'm hacking back the kudzu with use flags
asciilifeform: trinque: gentoo is as good as operator. you can excise the crud permanently and from everything running.
trinque: they moved a bunch of useflags into their own vars too, I noticed. because that was necessary
trinque: gentoo's fucked imo; everything depends on everything. I look at it the wrong way and suddenly I've got avahi-daemon or some other madness installed
mircea_popescu: punkman: you can distill grapes, plus they are useful for other things << great anal beads
mircea_popescu: let the guy go at his pace yo
asciilifeform: just build the damn thing. not that hard to do
mircea_popescu: going pretty good there danielpbarron
BingoBoingo: The "nobody will buy a hard drive" people are the worst. The problem isn't the hard drive.
mircea_popescu: the shit in that thread... i gotta stop reading.
mircea_popescu: its already a 33GB download ,imagine that increasing exponentially ,nobodys going to download it all when it exceeds 100GB but i suppose we could all use "lite wallets " etc but that would also weaken the network if most people were using multibit etc"
mircea_popescu: everyone doesnt need the last 6-7 years of history ,there must be some way to let new users download the most recent portion without the previous 6 years or just the headers instead of every entire block etc
mircea_popescu: i think it would be a big mistake to put higher fees on higher tx amounts and i would vote against it ,raise the block size if necessary and prune the blockchain is a better idea imo
mircea_popescu: "one of the unique and beneficial attributes of btc is you can send someone a 50 cent tip or a million dollars for almost nothing in transaction fees
mircea_popescu: the one thing poor people will NOT give up except with their life is "you got money gimme"
TomServo: danielpbarron: as I understand, with upnp being clipped IRC was the remaining node discovery mechanism
mircea_popescu: probably better if not the same version, actually.
BingoBoingo: The problem was Seattle decided to play with their food in order to burn the clock. Like the villain taunting instead of driving the knife deeper.
thestringpuller: I missed the "exciting part" as I drove home. No radio station was giving highlights.
thestringpuller: Srsly tho. Up until Halftime the game was neck and neck. Two evenly matched teams.
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo you sound like the announcers
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: It isn't that they won. It was how they won. Fucking worthless ending spoiled all of the fun that came before... except for the gold 30 foot tall mechanical tiger.
mircea_popescu: basically, one less explored point of usgavin's interest with the fork is to cripple the politically revolutionary side of bitcoin. obviously if bitcoin can't be bitcoin then the replacement of plain contracts with gpg-contracts will at least be hindered.
mircea_popescu: "Also, I used to read their logs on IRC, and there was a guy called 'pankkake' (also in btctalk) who seems to have vanished. I think its because they disagreed regarding the fork thing, so if anyone could share the light on his views, that'd be interesting too since I used to value his thoughts." <<< wasn't that over the systemd fork of linux !?
mircea_popescu: (MP standing for Mircea Popescu.. - dam he must be so thrilled having the 'basic' bitcoin renamed after him XD) << no, actually, i'd rather it just be called bitcoin. which is what it is.
mircea_popescu: that peter r shill is back in there with his nonsensical golfclub "statistics",
assbot: Judge Forrest on defense's proposed /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash expert: "The court has no idea what Mr. Antonopoulos' qualifications are." /hashtag/SilkRoadTrial?src=hash
mircea_popescu: "dude, you don't get to escalate me. go use the proper venues the proper way or shove it."
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> not like it costs so much more to print the word 'trillion' on bill << We might have to run that past nubbins'
mircea_popescu: he could have made the bill-ion
thestringpuller: "It's called Moronitor because it tracks users who repeatedly use the same address." << re: Bonafide
asciilifeform: not like it costs so much more to print the word 'trillion' on bill
trinque: the pursuit is inhumane
trinque: asciilifeform: the "right to happiness"
trinque: why don't they just come harvest blood from me directly
mircea_popescu: i mean, they gotta keep raising it.
mircea_popescu: well actually, that's nothing. i await with eagerness to see what the next democrat is going to promise.
BingoBoingo: However long Obama's USSA persists they will imagine such things
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Of course, I'm highlighting the "meta-wrong"
mircea_popescu: jurov they pay qntra to attend. once they actually get some money together and can afford being in the actual press.
mircea_popescu: "Changing the fees to be higher for Bitcoin, is going against what people like to say are some of the best things about Bitcoin, it's like changing what Bitcoin is."
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> and none of these fancy "wine" thingies << corn.
assbot: Judge Forrest on defense's proposed /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash expert: "The court has no idea what Mr. Antonopoulos' qualifications are." /hashtag/SilkRoadTrial?src=hash
BingoBoingo: <jurov> they won't resist parading and making press statements... can qntra send anyone? << Maybe we'll get invites next time?
thestringpuller: mod6: dat feeling hearing Jeezy's verse on the Hustlin' remix
ben_vulpes: http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2015/02/bots-and-the-super-empowered-individual.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+typepad%2FrzYD+%28Global+Guerrillas%29
thestringpuller: i'd go if they didn't still lynch negroes
jurov: they won't resist parading and making press statements... can qntra send anyone?
jurov: "Another example is that some CEOs fear to attack known scams in public because..." lol so they will attack them privately?
TomServo: Well thank goodness for that. Someone might've taken it seriously otherwise.
assbot: Bitcoin Elite to Gather on Secret Island for Bilderberg-Style Retreat ... ( http://bit.ly/1uRApXj )
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: ^
trinque: thestringpuller: seems the precedent being established is "if you're in bitcoin, you may not defend yourself in court"
BingoBoingo: * ben_vulpes wants to own an alcohol farm << Rye, prolly cheaper to just buy by the ton
mats: !up the_scourge
PeterL: thestringpuller:isn't moonshining rather dangerous << If you know what you are doing and have the right safety measures in place it is not really dangerous
the_scourge: trinque: also gravenstein apples are VERY adept in the pacific NW all the way up to cape scott
mats: !up the_scourge
trinque: plums can handle the pacific nw
kakobrekla: then you will want to do schnapps (plums) or whiskey/bourbon
thestringpuller: isn't moonshining rather dangerous
trinque: oooh! now there's a timeless business
ben_vulpes: and none of these fancy "wine" thingies - that's an opaque and stupid market to sell into full of branding and other crap.
ben_vulpes: re grape market << what are the best plants to farm for turning solar energy into sugar?
jurov: thestringpuller calm down, just some niggers
mircea_popescu: "The anti-fork crowd mostly consists of a small minority of ego-maniacal, 1% wannabees who want to keep Bitcoin as a niche market for elitist whales because it suits their vested interests. "
mircea_popescu: mats: this is gonna be good <<< it's pretty threatening, shell has really no interest to refine further, at least for the next three months.
PeterL: That was me the past couple days: I'm fine, I'm fine, I'll get better, I'm hacking up gobs of bloody phlegm I guess I'll go to the doctor
mircea_popescu: what would any disease want more than for the host to claim it's perfctly healthy ?
asciilifeform: 'bonafide' corp << the 'pretend #b-a doesn't exist, never existed, wouldn't matter if did exit' stratagem chugs along.
asciilifeform: but i do occasionally leave the house
asciilifeform: not moving in the sense of changing address
asciilifeform: putting this here for anyone who actually gives a damn re: the numbers, timing.
asciilifeform: unfortunately the timing of that experiment will soon be ruined, it is running on a gigantic portable that will be going into a knapsack in a few min.
PeterL: "The Nuclear Sciences Division within the Energy and Environment Directorate is seeking a Senior Plutonium Chemist. The candidate must have research experience and expertise in chemistry and processing of macro quantities of plutonium." << Too bad this doesn't fit my background ...
mircea_popescu: to quote hanbot, "you know had i not met you i don't think i ever would have realized how well anthropology and sadism go together."
mircea_popescu: his white pill did more for the red pill than any blue pillers wish to admit.
mircea_popescu: someone tell mr moneybags there aren't even half that many shares in circulation lolz.
mircea_popescu: lol qntra ended up with some buyside out of the deal too.
mircea_popescu: you'll have to go there, and you'll have to meet people. i'll back you, if you want to do it.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla by the way, if you feel like spending a year doing it, i'm pretty sure many/most ba projects COULD be shopped for bay area investment.
PeterL: BingoBoingo:Indeed. Would have been nice to see Seattle win on the ground and close the book on the Air Assault era that ushered in << Ground game worked for MSU in the Cotton Bowl, overcame Baylor setting air records.
PeterL: BingoBoingo: Half a yard from the end zone and Captain Nigger tosses an interception. Bullshit ending to the game. << I liked the end, and I thought the play could have worked, both players had their hands on the ball, defensive guy just wanted it more
PeterL: maybe Oakland takes over SF and kicks out (or enslaves) the whiney white guys?
mircea_popescu: they have no fundamental culture, like black dudes do have. they don't even know how to like without facebook.
mircea_popescu: the homeostasis is otherwise build out of circulating materials that get endlessly recyucled.
PeterL: thestringpuller: maybe it would be worse?
mircea_popescu: PeterL you have to understand, 99% of the circulating material is just that. they get fed hay, they shit it out, it goes on the pasture, which makes more hay. the people live off the wool produced, which is a side effect.
thestringpuller: so given SF's economy is pretty much ponzi (floating on start up money) does the entire place become oakland 2.0 when it all falls apart?
mircea_popescu: control of capital and control of relationships. that's exactly why we're about bitcoin and about the wot.
thestringpuller: the interesting phenomenon of the homeless entrepreneur in the bay area. more each year.
mircea_popescu: the idea is to keep the battery chickens distracted, and their attention firmly focused on the state.
mircea_popescu: PeterL but it making money is not the point. the idea isn't for -god forbid- some inept cocklets ending up with control of the means of production./
thestringpuller: cause you aren't employable otherwise
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: this is the entire point of ycombinator
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla so then don't care and it won't matter ? :)
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller> it's not a true reputation system just and aggregator << actually, it's a repackaging of an ancient idea in the words du jour. tucker max also made a "itsuptoyou" website that was essentially... yet another (meanwhile failed) blog.
mircea_popescu: <PeterL> not saying I trust them, but the idea has merit << the idea has merit in your eyes on the unwarranted assumption that it is being implementred by people in the wot.
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> no css << to quote myself, you're thinking actual dollars, someone saved. these however are not that, they're fictitious dollars yellen printed.
kakobrekla: wtf is that 'balance' doing there?
thestringpuller: you could probably abstract the IRC part of asswot with a stand alone client
PeterL: they end up with no money, where did it all go? who is winning from this chumpatron?
PeterL: and I also don't see why they need 850k to make said system?
thestringpuller: so it kinda defeats the purpose?
thestringpuller: and as you said how can you trust the information aggregated unless you vet it yourself
PeterL: thestringpuller: "Bonafide uses publicly available information — data from social networks and Bitcoin networks — to report on people and companies in the Bitcoin industry." << why not just do this stuff yourself? << makes sense to compile various WoTs, gribbleWot and AssWoT are slowly diverging, it would be nice to have one place to look at both
mircea_popescu: they're mostly like reddit, a bunch of losers with nothing better on their plate hoping to get money "somehow"
davout: because they honor withdrawals i guess?
thestringpuller: additionally isn't the point of reputation peer based to begin with?
thestringpuller: "Rather than attempt to get individuals and firms to sign up for the website and ask for their reputations to be validated, Bonafide uses publicly available information — data from social networks and Bitcoin networks — to report on people and companies in the Bitcoin industry." << why not just do this stuff yourself?
thestringpuller: I used to do the same thing as a kid.
fluffypony: how the hell is Gray's Anatomy still going
mats: i ate an entire package of seitan, like 14oz of it, after i came back from the gym last night
mats: !up the_scourge
mats: !up the_scourge
assbot: The real reason Ryan Charles was fired from reddit: he spent the entire duration of his employment working on a port of bitcoin core to Javascript. : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1z6Hzri )
jurov: thestringpuller: lol ryanxcharles, bitcoin should be written in node.js ?? you aware of this? http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2u7ddq/the_real_reason_ryan_charles_was_fired_from/
assbot: Logged on 02-02-2015 07:51:40; punkman: france exports a lot of cow. I've yet to buy one that's fit for something other than stew
mircea_popescu: stupidest thing i ever heard. as if the hard part about getting someone to translate romanian trilema is "how to package the articles in querstion". that's the big deal, whether to save them as .jpg or .xls
mircea_popescu: "And, of course, witnesses report that Inspector Stansbury did go ahead and ask questions after the guys lawyer gets led away. Theres the subtlety of the job right there: do something that wont raise the ire of a court to get a foot in the door, use that to intimidate, then get the target to start volunteering information in a vain effort to make the intimidation end. Standard procedure. Tillotson knew what wa
mircea_popescu: For resisting arrest, even though her response to being threatened with arrest was please do, followed by immediate submission. If please do has become the new standard for resisting, we can set the Doomsday clock to 1 minute to 1984."
mircea_popescu: " A veteran Assistant Public Defender in San Francisco, Jami Tillotson, was in a courtroom when she learned that another of her clients was being questioned in the hallway by a platoon of officers led by a plainclothes officer, Sergeant Inspector Brian Stansbury. When Tillotson intervened to point out that the police cant go around questioning a guy that they know to be represented outside the presence of his lawyer
punkman: if you are the Sultan of Oman, you can apparently airmail even 200 cows at once. http://modernfarmer.com/2014/01/ship-cow/
mircea_popescu: they do produce methane.
cazalla: they grow nice cows here on king island, cost a bit extra but tasty so ya know, prob best steak in australia, least from what i've purchased
punkman: france exports a lot of cow. I've yet to buy one that's fit for something other than stew
BingoBoingo: ^Another California problem. Wasting land on Cows that would be fine in Wisconsin, and promoting "California Cheese"
punkman: why don't they make some room for cows that taste good
punkman: about wine lake: " Plan Bordeaux: an initiative introduced in 2005 by ONIVINS, the French vintners association, designed to reduce France's wine glut and improve sales. Part of the plan is to uproot 17,000 hectares of the 124,000 hectares of vineyards in Bordeaux."
mircea_popescu: and i think it's fine and i also drink it, so there's that.
mircea_popescu: generally yeah. bout what it is in romania, italy and every other producing country.
cazalla: BingoBoingo, a bunch of aussies found that one out the hard way.. ass droppped out of the aussie grape market
mircea_popescu: so she can bring a bunch of dudes over and then you can text her abvout how she shouldn't instagram black cock stretching her out
mircea_popescu: i guess it's the puritan thing to do. can't buy the girl her own car, but you can have her over at your exclusive winery resort / dude farm for aweek.
mircea_popescu: europe is sitting on a lake of wine the size of wisconsin.
BingoBoingo: Could be the california wine thing's expanded into land that used to be produce? Could be any number of things, but... They just don't own the produce section like they used to.
BingoBoingo: Far more farms locally doing the produce thing though. Might be that California priced itself out.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Haven't been there myself to check but most produce here seems to come from Chile, Peru, and Mexico
BingoBoingo: http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/01/the-selling-of-the-avocado/385047/?single_page=true << Decent summary of the Marvel phenomenon
mircea_popescu: poor people have this very massive twin headed disadvantage where a) they start from a very low basis, hence the 1 bitcoin and b) they start surrounded by morons, so nobody to tell them about the importance of %s
mircea_popescu: you're going to end up on the forum.
mircea_popescu: the problem is that if you running around in a circle yields you 10 dopamine bitcoins per hour, and actually reading the logs yields you 1 dopamine bitcoin per hour increasing by 10% every subsequent hour,
mircea_popescu: cazalla that'd be the problem.
cazalla: mircea_popescu> and im not altogether convinced the poor should get laid all that much. <<< isn't that all the poor do? what else are ya gonna do but fuck
mircea_popescu: don't add useless in there!
asciilifeform: punkman: nothing whatsoever. the recipe is complete, total, perfect.
punkman: asciilifeform: what's missing from the recipe?
mircea_popescu: there.
mircea_popescu: Well, with two girls present, eager and widely spread both segments expand like grilled cheese, and won't get gone already! We were even laughing at the cock's amusement, it wants a little in there, and a little in here, but what's in this little hole, how's it like in that one, it just woudn't give up because it kept wanting to try stuff like the kid in the icecream store."
mircea_popescu: ood she looks etc, the second segment may compress even to a quarter inute and such, but otherwise it's generally equal to the first, half hour, an hour, whatever.
mircea_popescu: I know not of others, but of myself I can testify of how testy things go. In any sexual act by which I mean copulation, there's present two segments. The first, from onset until I feel I can ejaculate if I wish to, an the second from there on, which is to say until whether I wish to or not, it's coming out. Depending on various factors, such as if I'm tired, or not well acquainted with the miss and I'm shocked by how g
mircea_popescu: "The third point is that the theory by which loving two girls is difficult for cause of limited physical endurance, which is to say you can barely satisfy one, what the fuck to do with two is entirely false.
punkman: mircea_popescu: dude really, it's very easy to pick up girls. tell her what to do. if she does it, fine. if she doesn't, there's more. << I should "self-publish" that on Amazon
mircea_popescu: anyway, the quote i wanted "A treia observatie este ca-i falsa teoria conform careia a te iubi cu doua fete e dificil din motive de anduranta fizica, adica tu abia rezisti s-o multumesti pe una, ce te faci cind is doua ?!" and from there on, "Ei bine, cu doua fete prezente, dornice si rabolite ambele segmente se extind cacascavalu' pane, si nu se mai dau dom'le duse. Chiar glumeam ca-i distractia pulii situatia, vrea s
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: that'd be the machinist's equivalent of a 'fleshlight'
punkman: http://www.theattractionforums.com/general-discussion/33739-lifestyle-having-multiple-girlfriends.html
mircea_popescu: a) chicks love each other, unless brainwashed otherwise and b) where the fuck is that article brb
punkman: mircea_popescu: they had some acronym for it. long term multiple relationship something