ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> today, sent responses to ~300 of them, that were inquiring to know a) where is the center of buenos aires and b) whether argentines are poor. << why were they asking if argentines are poor?
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dutch&page=2 | No one actually smokes dutches, they just gut them bitches and fill em up wit product. 2) a slang word for a blunt 3) i guess a dutch is also sumone from Holland ...
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=going+dutch | going dutch. In dating, when both parties pay for their own bills, thus effectively dispelling the double-standard where men are always expected to pay.
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bogart | A slang term derived from the last name of famous actor Humphrey Bogart because he often kept a cigarette in the corner of his mouth, seemingly never actually ...
gribble: Humphrey Deforest (Humphrey) Bogart - New Netherland Institute: <http://www.newnetherlandinstitute.org/history-and-heritage/dutch_americans/humphrey-bogart/>; bogart - Wiktionary: <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bogart>; Humphrey Bogart - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humphrey_Bogart>
pete_dushenski: ;;google bogart the dutch
the_scourge: i think they outnumbered genetic alphas
the_scourge: the desperate wannabe? i think i remember a few of those
pete_dushenski: unless there's a third alternative ?
pete_dushenski: see, the nerd has a good chance of growing up to be someone someday, so google can't very well be that
pete_dushenski: which makes me think i should re-write that old classic "all i really need to know i leaned in kindergarten" for the internet age
the_scourge: so what does that make google? the monitor or a nerd?
pete_dushenski: others, chasing girls
pete_dushenski: some kids are playing tag, some kids are playing chess, some kids are driving the teachers crazy,
pete_dushenski: and what is the internet if not a big playground ?
pete_dushenski: it's worked on the playground since basically forever
pete_dushenski: following behind the cool kids and taking notes is nothing new
asciilifeform: (why? ask them)
asciilifeform: google appears to crawl #b-a www log every other minute or so, likewise.
cazalla: re: pastebin submissions, can we please use email? google snatches these up quick and pastebin gets the credit for the content
pete_dushenski: saved you boys the trouble :)
cazalla: yes and that is despite the past week being freezing here (sunny morning today, yay)
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cazalla: seems qntra already had a category for antarctica.. ;;later tell BingoBoingo australia is not the same as antarctica lol http://qntra.net/2014/12/australia-the-tax-institute-calls-for-voluntary-bitcoin-registry-treating-bitcoin-as-currency/
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: in criminal trials, iirc << In capital (death penalty) trials, probably other yes.
asciilifeform: if 11 jurors were to feel like, e.g., letting dpr go, and one did not, 'hung jury' and the kangaroo court gets to do the whole thing again
asciilifeform: now who wants to talk about the mythical nullifying juries, lol
asciilifeform: 'Do you pine for the nice days of minix-1.1, when men were men and wrote their own device drivers?' - linus t.
asciilifeform: honest minix or the heretical minix3 ?
mircea_popescu: turns out im the worlds most inept prop bettor :D
asciilifeform: what they did for 3 hours? played cards ?
pete_dushenski: damn, bb was right on the nose!
mircea_popescu: stupidity, yes. malice... rarely. on account of people being so stupid they can't really manage malice on the same cpu.
mircea_popescu: i was happy to confirm for their needs where the center is and that yes indeed they are poor.
mircea_popescu: today, sent responses to ~300 of them, that were inquiring to know a) where is the center of buenos aires and b) whether argentines are poor.
the_scourge: i've been there!
the_scourge: is that that crazy big cat place in middle of nowhere wisconsin? with the ligers?
the_scourge: ben_vulpes: is that because all of the non-stupid people ended up dispairing and turned malicious?
ben_vulpes: <trinque> pretty easy to bitch about how everyone's terrible in the US too if one allows himself << stupidity and malice are the *defaults*, guys. people who aren't either stupid or malicious are *not* to be expected.
trinque: the_scourge: heh, dude.. this feel, I know it
cjc: I picked it up sans the expensive delivery fee.
cjc: There was a pretty good deal on lifetime 2600 subscriptions last year.
the_scourge: trinque: i take responsibility for the situation. i've had certain goals and i've been working on them for so long i haven't stopped to smell the roses or look up the local 2600 chapter. if that even exists anymore
trinque: pretty easy to bitch about how everyone's terrible in the US too if one allows himself
trinque: the_scourge: gotta just ignore useless people and not miss the opportunity to hang among the worthwhile when it comes along
the_scourge: phillipsjk: thanks for looking into the ddos stuff btw
the_scourge: i'm just happy when i get a client where the head engineer is capable of having slightly technical discussions... staves off the cabin fever (which is possible, even in london)
the_scourge: i think the lack of opportunity has bent my personality :(
cjc: Also, I enjoyed the btc-dev mailing list post decision to keep the CPU miner for Alpha Centauri =)
mircea_popescu: the_scourge why not ?
the_scourge: asciilifeform: that's a little low, but i'll freely admit i don't hang around with the right people
mircea_popescu: not like cl has that many usable apps out there :D
cjc: Thanks mircea_popescu. I've been enjoying watching the somewhat spirited astroturfing over at bitcointalk.org for the last couple of days in this thread with regard to the Fork. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=941331
asciilifeform: it is extremely well-known among folks with even a mild interest in the subject...
the_scourge: ben_vulpes: it should respect what xrandr tells it to do, regardless. i've used tiling window managers with a retina laptop in 9 different shops in the last 18 months, sometimes changing desks throughout the week. just turn everything off and use xrandr, i'm sure your wm will respect it
mircea_popescu: if one could just use common lisp (no devs involved) there'd be no computing language forums.
ben_vulpes: i guess this is the curse of a shop with > 8 monitors
the_scourge: ben_vulpes: just do xrandr by hand. unless you're one of those people who has their monitors in the same orientation every day
ben_vulpes: x and my wm collectively shit themselves when i switch to a monitor theyve never seen before.
phillipsjk: er UDP *fragment* flood. (The UPNP shit was UDP too)
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller notice that there doesn't exist an equivalent "love for teenaged females".
phillipsjk: The UDP flood was almost full packets.
mircea_popescu: phillipsjk for the record, these attacks aren't exactly bandwidth related in any sense, they're packet based.
asciilifeform: the king's english, aha
mircea_popescu: the overarching point there is that vessenes' scam and the people hanging in -dev do not have the authority to either implement or discuss bitcoin forks.
phillipsjk: Theymos (the Bitcointalk admin) proposed a compromise for the block-size issue: start with 2MB blocks. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=941331.msg10352457#msg10352457
mircea_popescu: "Their most absurd suggestion turned out to be surprisingly close to the truth: that it must have been some website we visited."
phillipsjk: I do play in the Bitcoin forum...Though it was like 2-3years before I actually bought any.
mircea_popescu: nm me then. i have a bit of a writer's mind :D
mircea_popescu: phillipsjk you know you might be the first guy of your kind i ever met. so, you're on some isp's forum because... it's your isp ? and i suppose on the mazda forum if/when driving a mazda and so on ?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla can there be a page with a list of l2 fingerprints ?
jurov: i described these 4 steps above
jurov: 1. i don't have slaves to write the parser for me
mircea_popescu: jurov i still don't see why you'd process the dump as a myslq
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform their possession is a blessing for whoever's not doing it : costs more than it produces.
asciilifeform: there are quite a few, i think, who are grossly underequipped - intellectually - to actually operate a computer
jurov: mircea_popescu: verifying is another problem. i can do that by hand
asciilifeform: might depend on the winblows user, actually
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, not so. the better comparison is you saying " winblows user walking to pgp is somewhat like a virgin playing pensively with a fat cucumber. she isstill a virgin."
asciilifeform: winblows user walking to pgp is somewhat like a prisoner walking in the direction of the yard gate. he is still in his cell.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well at least he's perambulating in the generally right direction...
asciilifeform: why he assumed that 'backdoor' must be necessarily inserted at isp, rather than by author of the turdware - ask him, not me
asciilifeform: backdoors << the linked piece was about somebody who woke up to the idea of checking signatures on downloaded crypto app binaries (for winblows naturally) but couldn't quite wrap brain around pgp
mircea_popescu: was dsa the one we were not using because we suspect it comes with a nsa hole from the get go or am i confusing my sas ?
phillipsjk: The point of a new key is that I am *assuming* the NSA may be ably to crack 1024bit dsa, but I am not sure. I doubt anybody else can do it.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski: c'est mieu ? << mieux. the x, like the h, and the e, and everything else in French including the French themselves, is silent.
phillipsjk: ben_vulpes, if you miss issuing a new key, you may still want to sign with an expired key to prove you know the secret.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: maslow's thing had 'cooperation'? wat? << it keeps getting revised, it's a bona fide "golf club patter" that thing. always in step with the emotional needs of a new generation.
mircea_popescu: but i've not yet got through the logs far enough to figure wtf the contention is so gimme a minute
mircea_popescu: jurov jst saying, you don't have to do any actual query on the db. just grep it.
phillipsjk: I have been questioning the feature where you can change key expiry, but not do operations with expired keys. (Since i learned about it)
jurov: the db cointains users without l2
mircea_popescu: technically you could just grep the db
jurov: 4) rechecking the dam sig
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: ^ from the run-moar-winblows department << how the hell does one check for backdoors. submerge in water an' blow ?
pete_dushenski: if the qntra boys don't pick it up within an hour or so, i'll scoop it
mircea_popescu: felipelalli: let me ask you guys another thing <<< when using a broker, you necessarily undertake that risk. the way to not undertake the risk is to have your own account.
kakobrekla: s/the use/to use
pete_dushenski: italian fiu: "The FIU states that businesses dealing in virtual currencies, including holding them and exchanging them for fiat currencies, are not required to comply with any AML/KYC regulations."
jurov: kakobrekla, but please confirm you're aware that by choosing mysqldump format, it can't be parsed but must be piped into mysql which is practically the same as piping into /bin/sh
mircea_popescu: submission is cooperation, just, functional. the sort of cooperation you have in mind is simply not found in nature is all.
teward: phillipsjk: well that's not uncommon - and if anyone tried to DDoS me, they'd hit my VPS not me, and that's DDoS-filtered
phillipsjk: I slightly related news, apparently I can put whatever files I want on my web-host. Was working under the assumption I had at least 100MB of space. Apparently it is 25GB. (I essentially chose my own price-point since anything more than 25MB may as well be infinite for my e-mail and web-site.)
phillipsjk: teward, I found my first DDOS kind of exciting. The cloak works so far. Apparently people will DDOS live-streaming gamers for lulz as well.
kakobrekla: idk, i could make it announce new shasums in chan and you parse logs then
teward: asciilifeform: is one of the 2015 notices here the one you're talking about? https://www.wireshark.org/security/
phillipsjk: I my write-up on the Shaw forums, I included a caution about that.
asciilifeform: not even about these in particular.
phillipsjk: The UDP flood sample was after I let the previous attack drop to dial-up rates, then briefly reconnected.
asciilifeform: there is no such thing, approximately, as a kitchen with precisely one cockroach.
teward: AFAIK they're all patched, but I haven't watched wireshark upstream like a hawk
teward: asciilifeform: depends on the rev you're on
asciilifeform: there is at least one exploitable overflow in 'wireshark'.
phillipsjk: here is the first minute or so of UPnP crap: (64MIB) http://phillipsjk.ca/images/Jan_28_2015_DDOS_10Mbit.pcap
phillipsjk: Here is a 1.5MB sample of the udp fragment flood I was talking about: http://phillipsjk.ca/images/Jan_28_2015_DDOS_30Mbit_sample.pcap
phillipsjk: I finally have DDOS samples up. Apparently the attack mode switched at some point. I was not able to determine exactly when because my machine lacks the RAM to load the entire packet capture in wirkeshark.
pete_dushenski: i'll admit, it was a bit odd having all my thoughts in the footnotes... i'm just not sure that this is cleaner to read.
assbot: That ain't the Maslow pyramid, yo! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1z0o6x1 )
phillipsjk: mircea_popescu, Just because you don't understand the Maslow pyramid, does not imply it is completely invalid. Your alternative pyramid lacks co-operation...which you apparently consider rotten socialist propaganda. Re: http://trilema.com/2014/that-aint-the-maslow-pyramid-yo/
asciilifeform: jurov: i like the ru 'integrals' captchae more.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: if you're just going to annotage logs at least have the commentary arrayed neatly around the source material like the rest of the talmudic publications
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/02/mips-creator-ci20-released-interesting-though-not-very-useful << for your collection. i own the pre-release version of this thing. it works. but full of oddities. there is a (supposedly) complete data sheet for the chip.
asciilifeform: ^ from the run-moar-winblows department
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asciilifeform: unrelated mega-lol: http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/psa-your-crypto-apps-are-useless-unless-you-check-them-for-backdoors
asciilifeform: unfortunately nothing in the price ballpark of 'pogo'
felipelalli: jurov: just now I noticed "they" are actually "you". :) Thanks.
felipelalli: actually they (CoinBr.com) hold the shares for me in CoinBr MPEx account, isn't it? Just to know if I am missing something.
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user felipelalli to user jurov: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=felipelalli&dest=jurov | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=jurov | Rated since: Fri Jan 20 18:16:32 2012
asciilifeform: there also appear to be at least half a dozen compatible products, of similar cost.
felipelalli: let me ask you guys another thing: I'm using coinbr.com to buy S.MPOE shares. I received this receipt: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=L1Bv8GFg what proves I have created the order. But after the order is filled, where is the proof that 270 S.MPOE are mine? What happen if CoinBr.com just go bankruptcy (or disappear)? How could I recover this?
mircea_popescu: unless they're paying you for saas, in which case, i would hope you're executing them six to eight digits anually.
mircea_popescu: the db leak liability attaches to operator.
mircea_popescu: anyway, maybe tell them it's THEIR job to get insurance ? as you're not actually keeping their dbs ? or are you ?
ben_vulpes barely qualifies for the explicitly front-run brokers
mircea_popescu: check it out, the zip where my stock brokering is primarily stock brokered.
mircea_popescu: "What is the zip code of your primary business location?"
asciilifeform: by the pound?
mircea_popescu: clearly you need it then.
mircea_popescu: more importantly : you should not trade a stock you've not read the reports for.
mircea_popescu: the exchange engine itself is not aware of the conventions regarding the corporation. those are registered separately.
mircea_popescu: well yes,. the statements
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: are there a place where I can find the current total shares or just reading the statements?
nubbins`: so useless to me from the get-go for that
nubbins`: unfortunately the netflix app is hard-coded to USA service (!!!!)
felipelalli: Let me ask one thing guys about MPEx website: why not the total shared issued is displayed at http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.QNTR ? Wouldn't it be a useful information? I could find this info on http://trilema.com/2014/qntra-sqntr-october-2014-statement/ but I think it is handy to display on the stock page. Thanks.
nubbins`: asciilifeform is linux on MIPS a thing i should bother looking into re: goflex tv?
chetty: <mircea_popescu> this is such a brilliant approach to "user has no control of their computer"//won't be long till the computer controls the user
nubbins`: [14:44:17] <+nubbins`> maybe the "dockstar"?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i found the box in question. seagate's 'freeagent dockstar'
nubbins`: ethernet, usb built in as well
mircea_popescu: journald-remoting: the binary logger now has remote support (aka: remoting) via HTTP (instead of the syslog protocol, which isn't standardized (ie: no timezones, single-line logs only, ...)
asciilifeform: the systemd folks are emulating apple, not (intentionally) microshit
mircea_popescu: this is such a brilliant approach to "user has no control of their computer"
trinque: looks like they want to kill etc too
mircea_popescu: "combining nspawn (containers) and networkd (dhcp) allows for easier network management of containers. Networkd can also run inside the container. Outside the container networkd can pick a free DHCP IP for that container. Allows v4 to v6 network masquarading automatically. Does not involve dnsmasq, everything is routed via IP on the kernel (no bridging)."
mircea_popescu: "systemd wrote their own dhcp library"
asciilifeform: the part of the world where i live is plagued with, among other insects, a type of caterpillar that devours trees wholesale. every spring, gigantic hives (?) - nests with webbing - appear, and when they're full, you can almost see them pulsate, pulsate
mircea_popescu: "networkd: because networking is such a basic function of the OS, he believes it should be in systemd"
mircea_popescu: to quote myself, "people we don't like fighting each other, an ode"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it will look excellent : us on top of the world.
mircea_popescu: the notion that someone still takes this guy seriously is irreconcilable with the notion that people are born human.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform apparently they fell out of the windows tree and hit every branch on the way down.
mircea_popescu: happens to be the longest idiocy on linux forums. noob user on ubuntu moved from windows "how do i get zone alarm for linux"
asciilifeform: incidentally, above link has jtag mapping that ought to work for all the marvell boards
mircea_popescu: "minimal firewall support, which is service oriented. Ie: allow Apache access in the firewall instead of saying "allow port :80″ access."
nubbins`: i also have a "goflex tv" which might fit the bill.
nubbins`: maybe the "dockstar"?
asciilifeform: it was, iirc, the 'goflex'
asciilifeform: that's the one
asciilifeform: there we go
trinque: among other lols, they want to eat docker, manage your firewall, make the logger speak http...
asciilifeform: nubbins`: they have a whole line
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thestringpuller: nubbins`: that as only one track tho, and that's cause Trent and Dre were friends throughout the late 90's.
mircea_popescu: <trinque> yelling on the street corner != rape <<< seems exactly what it come to mean these days.
nubbins`: marketing is an assault on the sensibilities of all reasonable people
thestringpuller: nubbins`: yea the fragile.
nubbins`: thestringpuller he also stepped out of his comfort zone. guy produced a NIN album!
nubbins`: MICHELLE OBAMA: PREGNANT BY ONE MAN, IN LOVE WITH ANOTHER
thestringpuller: nubbins`: dre is a killer producer, but not nearly the same genius as say quincy jones. He made great business bets in comparison to Jay-Z.
trinque: yelling on the street corner != rape
trinque: nubbins`: I don't see them at whole foods or zuppans
thestringpuller: because Jay-Z associates with these people rather than being a true G is why Dr. Dre beat him to the billionaire club.
nubbins`: if there's one thing that would make me permanently switch supermarkets, it'd be a couple of checkout aisles free from gossip mags
nubbins`: y'know, this would probably still be international news if this woman wasn't the sister of the porn star oj simpson lawyer daughter
thestringpuller: "armenians are the black version of white people"
nubbins`: so's the rest of her famous family
mircea_popescu: right. but they're stupid and fat.
nubbins`: this is the only reason her face is everywhere
nubbins`: thestringpuller, if her dad was anyone else, she would not have made a "career" out of a sex tape
trinque: thestringpuller: what do you have against kim kardashian's ass?
thestringpuller: changetip / "attempts" at crowdfunding / "pledges" / and other various donations.
thestringpuller: "Getting fired from reddit sucks, but the support I've received from the bitcoin community is incredible. Free market social safety net." << "Why work when you can get donations for being a 'victim'."
mthreat: <+mircea_popescu> ... << yeh but how are we to verify! << I actually got pics of me holding up the blockchain iPhone app transaction, in front of the Port Lockroy building with a sign visible!
trinque: my btcd for deedbot has been belching about orphan blocks for a day, ever since it got to about two days ago in the blockchain
punkman: does the pogoplug need any proprietary blobs?
jurov: http://pogoplug.com/devices *Due to overwhelming demand, we are currently out of stock in the UK and Europe.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller that's because it has fewer.
thestringpuller: jurov: thestringpuller: lol ryanxcharles, bitcoin should be written in node.js ?? you aware of this? http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2u7ddq/the_real_reason_ryan_charles_was_fired_from/ << good stuff. buttcoin seems to have more real people than r/bitcoin
mircea_popescu: ideally as a signed blob on the mailing list. "This is block 0000000000000a40136b, reported as invalid so and so"
mod6: dig it up from ? the debug log?
fluffypony: by Monday at the latest
fluffypony: they're in country at customs, should be delivered
punkman: there has to be some chinese knockoff
mircea_popescu: this is starting to be so much like soviet russia in 1985 it boggles the mind.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu soon to become the han solo of Argentina.
davout: i'm starting to suspect you can't get them in yurp without some kind of subscription
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: do you ever leave the house << i do have a day job, as i think i mentioned. it doesn't have fixed hours as such, but i'm away from my perch fairly often.
asciilifeform: punkman: i have not yet discovered the answer to this.
punkman: who manufactures the pogo?
asciilifeform: i just picked the price winner.
asciilifeform: and a few others
asciilifeform: jurov, davout: incidentally, 'pogo' is not the only supplier of this kind of thing. 'seagate' has a device with, iirc, identical pcb
mircea_popescu: not that specific about number, either, just, bring as many as you can carry.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: then - naked.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: do you ever leave the house?
davout: mircea_popescu: i'll look a bit harder if i can't find them for cheaper first
asciilifeform: davout: at least you can get it, in theory; iirc in the land of the colocolo and ocelot they cannot be had except by human courier
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i also don't watch porn. doesn't mean i can't discuss itcompetently.
mircea_popescu: ask davout he was there :D
davout: i tried getting a pogo on amazon, for some retarded reason the price in euros is like 60
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> there's cpu to spare << funnily enough, what the power rangers wish to fix is... cpu speed.
asciilifeform: davout: haven't even taken it out of the crate yet