mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not particularly sad. the point ios for us to know syphilitic whore is syphilitic, not for her to not get laid anymore.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the "trading" fo shitty altcoins for inexisting bitcoin is the most important part of the altcoin pumping scams.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sad thing is, idiots denied apa/ietf/international association of bloodletting & phlogiston - will reinvent them..
BingoBoingo: bitcoin-qt is seriously just chilling now. was getting killed by malloc every half hour and now isn't even touching the line that killed it earlier.
mircea_popescu: can't be arsed to fix the thing, can be arsed to ban evade. very fucking smart.
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, is why no us pseudoscientific body can be taken seriously to any purpose. especially not to the purpose it supposedly serves.
mircea_popescu: Medicine, or the APA, can legitimately express a policy only if the policy was grounded in science or logic. Perhaps the APA cares to release this intriguing scientific data? (While it is at it, perhaps it can also release the data supporting the use of half of the medications currently favored by APA Guidelines?) But this seems pretty much business as usual for the APA. Rather than work on its own serious failings,
mircea_popescu: What if the NFL came out against antidepressants in children? This is a perfectly valid analogy, because neither the NFL nor psychiatry have special knowledge that make their statements anything more than opinions. What do psychiatrists know about same-sex marriage that the quarterback for the Patriots doesnt? Dont laughIm serious. Whats the answer?
mircea_popescu: And no, there isn't a difference between bankruptcy and gay marriage-- not to psychiatry. That's the point. These are social problems about which modern psychiatry is definitionally ignorant. The APA did not endorse polygamy. What's the difference? If homosexuality is not a psychiatric disorder, than there is no more reason to be more for or against it than there is for any other kind of marriage. The APA is no better
mircea_popescu: You can't get away with pat answers, such as psychiatrists see the psychiatric ramifications of discrimination or being unable to marry. There are psychiatric ramifications of bankruptcy, and war, but no one felt compelled to write a policy statement on it (and thank God.)
mircea_popescu: "Remember how in May, 2005, the American Psychiatric Association endorsed same sex marriage? And you applauded the moral fortitude and progressive instinct of this august body? Well, instead of debating whether there should or should not be same-sex marriage, perhaps we should ask what modern psychiatry could possibly contribute to this discussion. The answer is nothing.
Adlai despairs of ever writing fiction... the truth beats anything he can dream up himself
Adlai: "We noticed the hot wallets dwindling but assuming it was members moving their funds off site during the DDOS, we loaded all the cold balances onto the site so that users would not have withdrawals interrupted during our periods of up time."
cazalla: their claims, not mine!
asciilifeform: or wait, they had btc too ?
asciilifeform: 'The altcoin exchange Excoin has announced that it will soon shut down after alleging that an attacker was able to withdraw all the bitcoins from the exchange. With a trading engine written in Go, Excoin launched what was predominantly a Blackcoin exchange...' << in other news, some animal stole the heap of shit a fox deposited in my yard.
cazalla: incase scoopbot isn't working http://qntra.net/2015/02/excoin-exchange-to-shut-down-amid-claims-of-theft/
asciilifeform will show the next attempt at a proper fix reasonably soon.
asciilifeform is not at all interested in running infinitely-memcancerous bitcoind nor can recommend it to others. but also cannot recommend the experimental patch.
BingoBoingo not burning bastards, also has not come the slightest bit close to the old RAM limit since implementing new one.
thestringpuller: damn this shit grinds to a halt as the blocks get bigger.
BingoBoingo: Background is Memorial Union at Mizzou, built in the days every public uni campus in USia was built in memorian falen soldiers of the franz fredinand police action against germany
asciilifeform: this is not an interesting story per se except in the form of advice to young folks like BingoBoingo - don't do it!
mircea_popescu: this is insanity. you want a girl that can be smart, not a girl that can't be stupid, for some arbitrary levels of either. just like you seek a horse that can run quickly, not a horse that is never still.
asciilifeform thus had many strange plans, as a young man, for how to narrow the set
asciilifeform did not actually carry out this experiment! but was setting up for a variation on the theme, and this got out in his social circle
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> let's indulge this fiction for the sake of potential literature. << I PREDICTED!
asciilifeform: SHOW IT TO THE WOMAN << lol, mircea_popescu must have spoken with asciilifeform's $pet re: how they met
mircea_popescu: why the fuck disguise it. the mentality that cunt's the enemy is principally what keeps geeks in an onansitic state.
mircea_popescu: ID SHOW IT TO THE WOMAN
asciilifeform: actually i suspect that the fun would stop very soon after strapping on (presumably it would have to be worn at waist level! disguised as a fly button?!)
mircea_popescu: if you end up in a divorce ten years later, do you take the machine to court ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> not exactly, more like, "if god had meant me to gamble 10k dollars in this casino, he'd have given me 10k dollars" << Nah, he'd just make the credit officer in the cage a bit wet on the brain
mircea_popescu: do you skip to where the machine got abandoned and read her again ?
mircea_popescu: let's indulge this fiction for the sake of potential literature. so you pick a target this way, and somehow it works out and now it's morning and she's in bed.
mircea_popescu: well, so who does ? the snail ?
asciilifeform: rather than absolute value
asciilifeform: always warm << one would presumably be looking for the deltas.
mircea_popescu: lol. the sign of a healthy nubile female.
mircea_popescu: maybe you're right and the deep reason is that it gives away more than peoplewant to.
mircea_popescu: it remains in use by basically the same demo : slightly insecure 16 yo chicks that'll go into psychology.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, leuco jewelry was more or less popular in ro, ever since the 80s
asciilifeform: nope, precisely the fact that -did- work..
mircea_popescu: they didn't work ?
asciilifeform: for a short time in 1980s, liquid crystal thermo-indicator shirts were fashionable in usa
asciilifeform: this'd be more of a prosthetic version of some folks' ability to 'read body signs' of arousal/lack thereof
mircea_popescu: you'll probably do pretty ok picking up the ecstasy-peaking chicks in a rave, i'll grant you that.
mircea_popescu: if you think you can beat the primate brain with your electonic contraptions i have a rule based expert system to sell you.
mircea_popescu: well... in the sense bitcoind debugging via cpu ekg is a viable strategy.
asciilifeform is out of his depth, does not know if wunderwaffen based on arousal monitoring via far ir thermovisor is a plausible thing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the sex applications of this suddenly inexpensive >> uh what, predict ovulation ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I am liking though that the xserver is not running as root
BingoBoingo: From what I understand commercial shop Mtier which does a lot of their ports does "OpenBSD with Gnome and support contracts" as golden toilet product.
BingoBoingo: I'm leting DBUS live for now, doesn't seem to do much other than die a lot
asciilifeform: ^ was the one where i observed this
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: everything off by default << not quite true. try building 'xorg' followed by 'emacs' and see end up with dbus, other horrors
BingoBoingo: I dunno why I've been keeping the BSD stuff to toy and appliance uses for so long.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Build did not require the OSsuX ifdefs, but had to kill one linux ifdef and switch a boost lib called for another.
asciilifeform: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/13233 << picture the sex applications of this suddenly inexpensive trabambourghini
BingoBoingo: -qt just so there's more flags and libs to play with to plumb te differences between the platforms
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: that probably is the latest, yes.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: To see if it can be done. And what is the latest that still takes more of the sane patches. (entire leveldb series is out because making that build would be too much hell)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Executable was finally birthed this morning
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: 0.7.2 -qt on OpenBSD with some 0.5.3.1 patches applied as they can be (i.e. scrolling reading and fingers rather than patch utility)
mircea_popescu: i think if i close my eyes and push on them really really hard i can almost sorta see the logic of this transformation.
BingoBoingo: What can I say, the brokeness of English systemically effect domains people purport to be actual
mircea_popescu: if anyone told engel that they can have manic episodes lasting over 24 hours now he'd have caned them.
asciilifeform: except he is didn't need to take the dope
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think BingoBoingo was referring to the american usage - artist (or compulsive bathroom cleaner, see the old 'meth' thread) who stays awake for two weeks straight on 'manic episode' etc
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo actually in functional family arrangements manic episodes are usually the modern parlance equivalent of what used to be "senile aggitation", ie, granpa keeps grabbing jane's ass.
asciilifeform: just like it's not priapism till the fun is over and gangrene starts
mircea_popescu: which, by proxy, is in point of fact a measure of the social influence / discoursive relevance of the insane trolls in question, and so yes it is a legitimate measure for them to target.
BingoBoingo: Re: bipolar - no one complains about feeling manic until the police get involved. Plenty of people spend lots of money of coffee and bolivian marching poweder trying to come close.
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, is EXACTLY the mechanism through which "80% of rapes are unreported".
mircea_popescu: y way to say the diagnosis was correct or incorrect, in the absence of objective pathology, is to say that the treatment they received for bipolar disorder from the fifth doctor was better (read: safer or more efficacious) than the treatment they received from the first four. This is not evident. "
mircea_popescu: on objective pathology?) You can look at this the other way, and say only 1 out of 5 psychiatrists felt it was bipolar disorder, while the other 80% thought it was depression. So it pays to have the last word. Bipolar disorder is frequently missed not because it exists and doctors miss it, but because it is defined in a way which allows it, by 80% of doctors, to be legitimately called something else. The onl
mircea_popescu: "A similar example is the often cited myth that diagnosis of bipolar disorder is frequently missed. A survey found that 69% of patients were actually misdiagnosed, most often as having regular depression. An average of 4 physicians were consulted prior to receiving the correct diagnosis. But who is to say what is the correct diagnosis, when the diagnosis is based on vague and overlapping descriptions (and not
BingoBoingo: After smashing my head these past few days through the painful part of the learing process... The software is now working for me instead of I for it.
BingoBoingo: I'm just watching the blocks sync and thinking to the history I and verifying as it passed. Solidly in the S.Dice era nao
BingoBoingo: Could also be they might have been trying to trigger a resource intensive search?
mircea_popescu: "hey, --\" didn't do anything on it's own, but what if you add another ?!?!
mircea_popescu: and what, "enough" similar magic units to "do the job" ? looks like people try to hack like psychs try to medicate.
mircea_popescu: not precisely inducted either. it's a process.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what possessed you to set up the experiment described earlier?
mircea_popescu: dude... srsly missed the boat on that whole health thing.
asciilifeform: other observation is that 'ubuntu' (with the above atrocities and many others) is no more 'linux' than wintel 'is what a computer is'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: brings down the networking stack... fucks up dbus and everything else... nfi why we care so much about systemd, in fact linux has been fucked over for years now << you will find that the ubuntu 'stack' that can 'go down' consists almost wholly of poetteringisms
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ...sheeit alf, what nao << not my fault if the poor sod contracted 'brainwater' and can't hold systems in his head
BingoBoingo: n00b stockpicker me from freshman year of college really should have held those Sun shares through to the buyout instead of playing the hi-lo game
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: How To Get Rich In Psychiatry (update on stocks) ... ( http://bit.ly/1DpY4oC )
mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2006/10/how_to_get_rich_in_psychiatry.html << there's little quite as endearing as the misty excitement of a noob stockpicker.
BingoBoingo: Dis-Able was first born. Disable spend many years in the shadows ruining sound and making daemon no one wanted. Pain came into the world with a bang out of Africa, promised ease at the cost of nothing working as expectabru. Two years ago they each decided to play the other's part and now systemd is loud while ubuntu silent becomes the quiet daemon that breaks apps in the background.
mircea_popescu: there still is no substitute for homework. "socializing" not only fails to substitute, but actually has serious counterindications.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> in other words : i have nfi why we care so much about systemd, in fact linux has been fucked over for years now, by completely unrelated crapolade like ubunbtu. << It's a twin story. Pain and Dis-Able
mircea_popescu: whaack do yourselv a favour and read the logs for an actual result, rather than !imperative all over the place and a) not get anything except for b) marking yourself for termination.
BingoBoingo: whaack: I had to chop mine up these past few days. It's C++ you search the text and nuke shit that you dun like.
whaack: how many people in here have read the bitcoin core code? would anyone here consider to know it well?
mircea_popescu: in other words : i have nfi why we care so much about systemd, in fact linux has been fucked over for years now, by completely unrelated crapolade like ubunbtu.
mircea_popescu: and of course once that crashes it brings down the networking stack, which on ubuntu can NOT actually be restarted, mostly because it fucks up dbus and everything else.
mike_c: "The site broke new ground for security in the space, integrating Yubikey and Google Authenticator"
kakobrekla: > They were called Virtual Currencies, now many prefer to call them Digital Currency or Crypto Currency.
mircea_popescu: in other news, firefox spontaneously combusts unattended on a 4 day old system. and they call this software.
mircea_popescu: so using your numbers... they're actually unimportant.
mike_c: those qntra spikes are important though. 1% of the flash traffic sticks around and becomes regular reader
BingoBoingo: punkman: if we replace openssl with libressl or whatever, how do we verify all the buggy data generated by 7 different openssl versions? << For the time being... empirically. There a set with six year's worth a data to test against by syncing.
mircea_popescu: "4. if you have the intellectual and physical capacity to single-handedly deal with your program, it's a toy " <<< sheeit alf, what nao ?
mircea_popescu: exactly like how the rifles used to fight actual wars are nothing like the crazy-shit-stick-on-all-sides "amateur" rifles.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform minor nitpick : all these people that never ever head foreman'd a construction yard shjould stfu about "tools". the tools used to build a skyscraper are, by and large, cheaper, more worn versions of the expensive DIY crap.
mircea_popescu: absolutely perfect example of the pseudoscientific nature of American "science".
mircea_popescu makes a note that should anyone wish to "see studies" supporting the proposition of http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-deal-with-pseudoscience/ (ie, that *EVERYTHING* published in English is junk, and to be discarded out of hand), I intend to use http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2006/10/jama_deludes.html
cazalla: feb is on track to be another record month
mircea_popescu: at this point i'm not even sure gavin jumping off the coq d'argent would qualify as bitcoin news.
mircea_popescu: they'd be a lot better if drunk imo.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: while the latter appears to be an erzats 'spamhaus' ?
mircea_popescu: and wtf is "the anti hacker alliance"
asciilifeform: ugly, pascal-like, but extraordinarily well-specified and strict to the point of bdsm
mircea_popescu: not that i disagree with the principle of making people verbalize the stuff they're abotu to do.
asciilifeform: as in 'this one is odd and between 3 and 15 and if it ever isn't, pump in the halon
mircea_popescu: listen, everything in a program is explicit. whethr the user is aware or not of this...
asciilifeform: i confess that i rather like it...
asciilifeform: still used for genuinely safety-critical systems worldwide (virtually all jet engine controllers, etc.) - language from hell, required you to specify ranges for integers, and the like
asciilifeform: naggum's -other- lang. the only one other than cl that had not only a standard but a -rationale document- for every page
mircea_popescu: i suspect ti's a case very close to the ida situation asciilifeform was deploring last week
thestringpuller: the original qt uses MFC stuff
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: not like they wouldn't work without em.
asciilifeform: lol, i still don't know why it needed the gui at all
mircea_popescu: people DID make their own miners.
mircea_popescu: this is not the correct approach. make bitcoin, then let everyone make their own guis.
asciilifeform: now, did the thing -need- a cross-platfom gui? don't ask me, i've never used it...
asciilifeform: for what 'qt' does, there is no real alternative (other than 'wx', which is arguably even more of a cthonian horror in some ways)
mircea_popescu: the part that actually is your place, is done. welcome to parenting!
Adlai: well i imagine that when it happens, nobody will be able to not get it, because it'll happen rather happeningly
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: is there any evidence to suggest that << nope.
mircea_popescu: mod6: it'd be awesome because then derps would give up and go and play with hula-hoops << technically speaking this is what's happening already.
mircea_popescu: if you think about it, riding on qt "for the gui" is not so different from riding on the browser.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's conceptually by far more 'boost' than straight cpp in there. << i for one am thankful it's not mostly javascript.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i was wondering what was up with all the for loops trying to be python-like
asciilifeform: srsly, whoever asked that, read the damn thing. there's conceptually by far more 'boost' than straight cpp in there.
asciilifeform: re: the question of ripping out 'boost': not happening short of a total rewrite. it's used for virtually all iteration constructs, heterogeneous data structures, and 100 other things in the turd.
asciilifeform: speaking of which, someone asked which robotic vacuum cleaner it was that had decent software. it was the one made by 'neato robotics co.'
mike_c: you were in the field.
mike_c: thestringpuller: quite a hairball :)
asciilifeform: there are beggar-kings who earn more than any, e.g., programmer
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where do you even find these... i could have lived and died without ever knowing about this fella
mircea_popescu: in any case, i guess he never heard of whats-her-face, the supposed cali "poet" that did essentially the same but in the 70s, and died recently in abject poverty.
assbot: Meitar "maymay" Moscovitz: The Information Age equivalent of Johnny Appleseed ... ( http://bit.ly/1vJ5yC9 )
mircea_popescu: re the "you can't" derp : he spends about half the page trying to beg for donations. because hey, money is only dirty if you actually EARN it. otherwise's fine. http://maymay.net/#how-you-can-support-me
mircea_popescu: (i confess didn't bother to click)
mircea_popescu: how is this scam supposed to work then ?!
mircea_popescu: check out guy with a half notion of the problem, and a thoroughly broken nonsolution
mircea_popescu: "How you can hire me: You can't. I don't work for money. Money is a technology that destroys trust. Its entire purpose is to short-circuit human relationships in order to insert itself as a middleman. It makes everybody spend more money, at more emotional cost, for things that make us angry at each other. Don't offer to pay me. Seriously. If you offer me money, I will decline on principle."
mod6: Might need some help on these ones for sure.
mircea_popescu: france keeps at this there will be a permanent bounty on dead french statesmen, in Bitcoin. and eventually, a dead France.
mircea_popescu: can't update OR READ the locked matter until released
mircea_popescu: punkman: I wonder what the liberally sprinkled "CRITICAL_BLOCK" does << it acquires a blocking lock
mircea_popescu: "But say something utterly boneheaded that pisses people off simply because it is so stupid that people who make such rabid mistakes must be corrected, and you get to control the whole goddamn agenda in the newsgroup for a while."
mircea_popescu: punkman: if we replace openssl with libressl or whatever, how do we verify all the buggy data generated by 7 different openssl versions? << you mean in the blockchain ? the thing's actually coherent.
mircea_popescu: these would have to be quite unusual, i never owned an amex card.
assbot: You rated user thestringpuller on 17-Oct-2014, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: noise hole..
kakobrekla: !rated thestringpuller
ben_vulpes: i can't tell if it's me or thestringpuller on your ignore list kakobrekla
ben_vulpes: i thought the automation was implicit.
thestringpuller: "Something something client asked me to change something on live server something something something in the logs." :)
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: when have i ever done such?!
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: you are the only advocate of cowboy coding I know of
ben_vulpes: peer review, testing in production, what's the difference anyways
mike_c: hm. maybe it was just the wrong academia. shit gets published in here, peer reviewed, etc. i guess that's a lot like academia.
thestringpuller: I'll ;;later you what I come up with for L2 arrangement. These are interesting points to consider.
mike_c: thestringpuller: remember though, it's not just a tree, it's a forest
thestringpuller: mike_c: I can apply the data to tilford style tree: http://bl.ocks.org/mbostock/4063550
thestringpuller: yea l2 will spawn from the orbits around l1
thestringpuller: then at least all nodes would be spaced
thestringpuller: i was thinking of rendering as force layout without interactivity and then dumping the resulting SVG
mike_c: yeah, you need a serious package to handle a lot of nodes/edges. igraph is the only i've found that does a good job so far.
thestringpuller: the centric dependency graph may get crazy
thestringpuller: I've been using force layout via d3 to graph the lord's nodes
gribble: mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 minutes and 9 seconds ago: <mike_c> write names inclined 30 degrees << it's a circle, so that only helps depending on where you get placed on the circle. i'm still poking at it though.
mike_c: write names inclined 30 degrees << it's a circle, so that only helps depending on where you get placed on the circle. i'm still poking at it though.
mircea_popescu: decimation: I remember using the boost/bdb that was available on the ports << if you could document what you did exactly it'd prolly save people time.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell brendafdez: ^facebook^bitcoin << the posix format for this is /facebook/bitcoin/ in reference to the sed command.
mircea_popescu: mike_c: jurov: you're three right of mircea. thestringpuller is crowding you with his long name. << write names inclined 30 degrees ?
mod6: thestringpuller: ben & I were able to pass it once we upgraded to v1.0.1g
thestringpuller: kinda annoyed @ the power rangers rite meow
thestringpuller: mod6: if I upgrade openssl will I be able get past the wedge?
BingoBoingo: The wedge issue was more related to which libssl gets compiled into the mess than the version though, isn't it
BingoBoingo: Passed the wedge block at 169390
mod6: doesn't mean that a few bad seeds aren't out there though. more research required.
BingoBoingo: Ram usage dropped, a bunch of Orphans just found a father
Adlai: dad@dinner: "what happens when people start saving their bitcoins, rather than just spending them?"
mod6: there would be 95% less people on the tubes if they had to compile everything themselves. ``THE BARRIER TO ENTRY IS TOO DAMN HIGH!.jpg''
mod6: the checkpoint block is 168,000
chetty: <BingoBoingo> Would MS let them build IE?// haha MS would never release source, thats kinda why I picked it
BingoBoingo: As in make the choice to do that? Or would they actually do that because it is both hard and stupid
BingoBoingo: Would MS let them build IE?
mod6: it'd be awesome because then derps would give up and go and play with hula-hoops
chetty: interesting, if all packages only came as source sure would cut down on derpage on the nets, imagine reddtards have to build their own ie
asciilifeform: should always rebuild binarys on the local environment << not practical on embedded system
mod6: maybe throw a `uname -a` in there as well
mod6: if you do get that, please give us a pastebin of the 'getinfo' & 'openssl version -a'
mod6: youll know that you've hit the bad tx when you see an error in getinfo like this: "errors" : "WARNING: Displayed transactions may not be correct! You may need to upgrade, or other nodes may need to upgrade."
mod6: ok 0.9.8o is the version we had problems with too though
thestringpuller: you do getinfo and it just stays there lol
hegemoOn: davout: complained the artical didn't provide any source, i feed him with two others articles on the same topic
mod6: yeah, the latter. i wouldn't worry about it.
BingoBoingo: Running again, debating whether to give it more ram. Dunno it will do anything useful other than maybe take longer to crash
mod6: shouldn't be too long before i get to where i want to be. i can't even do full sync on this vm anyway. i didnt make the vm disk big enough.
mod6: <+punkman> and you can move the binary to other machine without having to pull all the boost-dev packages << fwiw, i've never done this ever. should always rebuild binarys on the local environment.
mod6: so when the dynamic compile is done here, will start back up.
BingoBoingo: 0.7.2 qt, tried forever on 0.8.6 qt to avoid futzing with the BDB settings. Twas a mistake. It took the better part of a day to realize leveldb is never building for my level of skill in the necessary way and two seconds to patch that BDB shit
BingoBoingo: I was about to call it a night three hours ago, but now the Sun's been up forever and I can't stop watching blocks sync
mod6: statically linking the libs into the bitcoind output binary made it cross its eyes and wet its pants lastnight
mod6: ah, ok: https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/commit/9ef1b3a903d22c946a4536f56e26cfd16429c4bb << this will fix the random thing, but i don't think the makefile change here does anything.
BingoBoingo: I really need to take better notes, but that was the big flag I noticed
mod6: BingoBoingo: Thanks for the links, the second one (https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/blob/9ef1b3a903d22c946a4536f56e26cfd16429c4bb/net/bitcoin/patches/patch-src_wallet_cpp) probably fixes this warning : src/wallet.cpp:858: warning: rand() isn't random; consider using arc4random()
BingoBoingo: The just changed the mnemonic device to A Replacement Call for Random when the parts under the hood changed
Apocalyptic: oh, then nevermind
BingoBoingo: They don't use rc4 for arc4_random anymore.
Apocalyptic: BingoBoingo, note that the use of arc4 stream cipher for randomness in something as critical as ECDSA sig nonces is... discouraged. If I remember correctly it's a bit biased
BingoBoingo: changine random to arc4_random for the nonces was probably important for this build platform so catching that was importish
BingoBoingo: Any ways, it is exercise to learn the new environment
Apocalyptic: Adlai, bitcoind shoudln't, indeed. bitcoin-qt is another program
Adlai: you can produce them in a separate program[/computer] given just an address
Adlai: why should bitcoind care the slightest about qr codes?
BingoBoingo: 84204, over half way to the first wedge block