asciilifeform: for that matter, even fg theoretically 'made in usa', by combo of asciilifeform's hands and hired pcb house
asciilifeform: and the latter in particular counts in favour of the hypothesis that yes, there's life somewhere, inca not exterminated errything.
asciilifeform: at any rate, i know literally 0 re the outfit aside from what's claimed in their www, and the fact that they made the 1st ballmouse i've touched and not wanted to throw into window
mircea_popescu: ~it's what the words say~. it's not "clearly better trackballs".
mircea_popescu: aiming to replace the entire technological stack currently in use with their own, better alternative.
asciilifeform: hm what would be then 'too serious'
mircea_popescu: sadly, novelty name rather than political declaration. but o well, better a fig than nothing at all.
mircea_popescu: "Clearly Superior Technologies is a family business. We take pride in our level of service and the quality and consistency of our products. We cater to all organizations and individuals that want or need easy button access and a large, easy to control ball with a high degree of durability."
a111: Logged on 2019-01-04 15:12 asciilifeform: in other olds-noose, asciilifeform installed a http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-27#1674958 , and it's pretty great. ty phf !
asciilifeform: entertainingly, even the '80s-90s' proviso aint 100%; just last week i had occasion to plug in a http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-04#1884363 , nominally made in some barn in usa, and it's a+++
mircea_popescu: in the end this discussion turned out most productive. it makes obivous the distinction between the latins (very much alive) and the christians (deader than disco) : i very much expect a phrase lifted from petronius to ~work for me today~ ; i entirely expect any clipping of the "church fathers" to drip more poison than can be ever documented, and in no case be usable for anything.
asciilifeform: i aint about to disagree with this formula ( it's 100% of the thrust of vtronics, say )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform even as late as 2005, in the subjective sense that i ~trusted~ them to.
mircea_popescu: in any and all cases -- the maker is he whose guarantee we accept.
mircea_popescu: until and unless human culture recoallesces into a form where i can trust their products, it will be the case we have an orc culture, where everything's suspect of poisoning.
asciilifeform: imho 30y+ ago they still made occasional object ( in mircea_popescu's sense )
mircea_popescu: these can be studied, but can not be used.
mircea_popescu: consequently, nothing of theirs can be trusted. they don't have objects in the usual sense. they have religious artefacts.
asciilifeform: ( and on other end, it is literally troo of all rubbish -- if zeus could rearrange the atoms, dead racoon could be prime rib, or diamond, etc )
mircea_popescu: the dead are distinguished from the alive in that they're broken the meaning covenant.
mircea_popescu: there's two kinds of civilisations : dead and alive.
mircea_popescu: just, you work with garbage, they work with pcbs
asciilifeform: or, say, 'commodore 64', built by ex-auschwitz inmate j. tramiel and 6 other d00dz in some barn.
mircea_popescu: otherwise it'd just be rubbish.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the only rerason it is a logic analyzer is your "perfectly working" stamp.
mircea_popescu: and then the conversation flows by itself, "suppose i test one of them artefacts and it matches turbine ?" "then you have ~made~ a turbine ~out of a~ religious artefact"
asciilifeform: ( not even speaking of bolix or other 'holy war' fodders )
mircea_popescu: so basically, that's the dispute. you believe turbine part is turbine part qua se, and i'm gonna say, "but alf... these aren't turbine parts, they're ~religious artefacts~. similarity to actual turbine parts ~coincidental~."
asciilifeform: aaactually what little i've touched with own hands from 'made in usa' , comes 100% from these.
mircea_popescu: ie, you're a materialist-idealist. though with some derrogations, you don't like importing the code of these turbine makers.,
mircea_popescu: in the end this is the problem, isn't it -- you think that ~yes he is~ making something -- turbine parts. as if the parts have an existence beyond and above the incadom they're made in
asciilifeform: they aint fully separate in my head, cuz i aint an olympian
asciilifeform: i suppose oughta separate the 'which one would rather be condemned to' from 'which moar loathesome to the olympian observer'
asciilifeform: i recall in buenosaires there were mosquitoes, but somehow they could not penetrate my skin, i watched and laffed as 1 tried
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you were saying something like "lice are better than fleas, because i personally have a serious problem with jumping" it'd even be one thing, idiosyncratic but specific. what seems to me you're saying though, is "the flying mosquitoes are worse than the ones settled, because i hate flying", and then beiung surprised by the necessary and equally obvious "but alf -- trhe same ones fly and settle in turns!"
asciilifeform: spamola, in the most general sense of word, i.e. 'folx who have 0 to say , but open mouth anyway' is imho the principal plague of our time. so from this pov i see diff.
mircea_popescu: i honestly could as well see it, for the same money i don't see it. not like it costs me.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there are public fools, who spam impotently; and there are other folx, whose existence, however wretched/inca-besotten, is silent . i see the latter as less loathesome. this may be an ideological diff, i have nfi.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, maybe you're right, and the problem is i've predetermined not to see it. but then again this is a terrifyingly weak argument, because of its association with a dutch moron called søren, whose bright idea it was to propose that the reason you don't see what distinguishes his fsm from all the others is that you don't want to!!!
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-08-19#1244625 << Unable to find the first instance. Already referenced as existing a few lines up from the link
asciilifeform: ty BingoBoingo , is exactly the item
a111: Logged on 2018-12-31 03:56 mircea_popescu: Mocky if this may help you take heart, ~everyone's employability is ~epsilon in the us. "jobs" work as alt-welfare conduits, no genuine productivity is present or contemplated.
mircea_popescu: well what is the difference ?! is http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-31#1883795 the point of breakdown perhaps ?
BingoBoingo: This walrus raping a penguin and getting the gull hot? https://i.imgur.com/lJC5lxu.gifv
mircea_popescu: this is a difference of all the substance of "difference between car and car is that car is parked while car is moving"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: diff is that the latter goes around begging, whereas the former has some hole he drilled into fed pipe and drinks from it (while green comes out)
mircea_popescu: well, this is where the wasp analogy breaks down -- because there is no way to distinguish between the speshul snowflake "engineer" and the speshul snoflake douchebag.
mircea_popescu: distinguish nothing -- they just spray and pray.
mircea_popescu: chimichurri, who is a boy, went once to the lake, where a dominant duck tried to fuck him.
mircea_popescu: in the very strict terminology of the turing test : if you get a mystery box you can't explain whether it contains type 1 moron or type 2 moron.
mircea_popescu: ie, not merely "just says wasp". i am actually saying there is no way to distinguish between the two.
asciilifeform: from the pov of 'who does not want to believe, will not' ?
mircea_popescu: the "d00d designing turbine parts in broom-closet-sized office" and " i'm not even convinced there's any meat involved" are physically and entirely the same exact thing.
a111: Logged on 2015-04-26 03:24 mircea_popescu: i see nobody wishes to engage the cunt problem. but yes, IT DOES RUN ON PERL.
mircea_popescu: yes perl scripts issued by the original perl interpreter ( http://btcbase.org/log/2015-04-26#1111325 ) rather than ulterior models ~prefer~ to "conference butterfly". but this personal preference does not enact a difference.
mircea_popescu: it's that he is not AT ALL different from the morons.
mircea_popescu: but in any case -- regrettably, there is absolutely ~no glamour~ associated with the red stapler guy.
asciilifeform: i'm not even convinced there's any meat involved in churning out 'information for it professionals' spamola
mircea_popescu: in that they're (as you well poined out) readily equivalent to "ai", they don't ~have to~ see a face.
mircea_popescu: i suppose in this the model breaks down, with the advent of pseudo"technology", the shy withdrawing type can "HackerCombat LLC is a news site, which acts as a source of information for IT security professionals across the world. We have lived it for more than 1 year since 2017, sharing IT expert guidance and insight, [...] " bla bla bla all day long.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i got a secret for you : the shy withdrawing kind almost never get the hole.
asciilifeform: some folx in usaschwitz do their time in solitary, some in 3-man cell, some in 'general'.
asciilifeform: solitary prison's exactly the model.
mircea_popescu: seems to me either you're arguing "berth of freedom from inca" or you're not arguing it. which specifically is it ?
mircea_popescu: are you proposing the general population and the solitary confinement are not in the same prison ?
mircea_popescu: so what is the difference ? that sees no human face ?
asciilifeform: m mircea_popescu's olympus they are indistinguishable, the way untrained human cannot distinguish 2 types of wasp necessarily, will think 'wasp'
asciilifeform: item contemplated upstack was no sort of 'berth of freedom from inca'. d00d designing turbine parts in broom-closet-sized office, seeing no living faces other than in lift, is a thing, seen with own eyes. for the privilege he pays 2-3x tax ( and can , yes, be 'defrocked' at the whim of whatever gosplan commissions the workpieces, if rocks boat. ) however it is quite diff from life as inmate inside cube hell, subjectively. granted fro
mircea_popescu: yes, but back then the bois aspiring to "an independent life" had enough sense to join highway brigands
asciilifeform: it didn't work in 1500s either, luther did not by own lonesome get away with nailing shit to the church door
mircea_popescu: the empire is more than willing to do without bread ; it is not willing to do without stupid.
mircea_popescu: point being -- the boyish fantasy of "i'll get SO SMART they'll have to let me be" does not in practice work.
asciilifeform: was their own inner devils iirc
mircea_popescu: look in the history of early ustarded yahoos "starting businesses".
mircea_popescu: i understand why the notion is interesting, as i understand why the fantasy is appealing. but a fantasy it is.
asciilifeform: fughet 'thinkers'. not far from my street there's a d00d who sells cement drills. has for 20+y. his shop is the size of a public toilet, and staffed by his lonesome old carcass. who fires him ?
mircea_popescu: yes, this is how my life went in the ~other~ socialism ; and in the "transition" thereafter. but it is NOT the case anyone lives like this in the us.
mircea_popescu: as a factual matter, there is not the object contemplated in the reich : a thinker so valuable in his thinking, usgistic socialism gives him a berth.
asciilifeform: rather than 'eats bank loans and pretense'
asciilifeform: is it unreasonable to hypothesize a shop that does actual biz ? of whatever kind, 'buy cheap, sell dear', parts for turbines, or whatever
mircea_popescu: or is this more of a "shop in the mind" sorta thing ?
mircea_popescu: whichever bank his last pretense to shopdom rests on, in the shape of bank accounts.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the bank, to start with.
mircea_popescu: there is no engineer so valuable in his geekery he exceeds the valuableness of the last set of jocks to win one for the ole' red, white & blue.
asciilifeform: who fires the 1-man shop festival pisser ?
mircea_popescu: ie, returning conquering heroes. they didn't get away with putting the precious cuntlets in their tailhookers place ; and that was THE LAST TIME.
mircea_popescu: the last time anyone tried this test was specifically http://trilema.com/2017/when-did-america-end/#selection-103.0-103.11
mircea_popescu: the end result will be, your being fired. exactly like any other rando nobody working accounting at walmart.
mircea_popescu: the end result will not be, your excellence inc enacting ramparts and shooting any and all complainers.
mircea_popescu: in the sense that if you, joe mc speshul, employed at excellence inc to do very-important-whatever walk onto campus during their "women can think" festival and urinate on the speaker in contempt,
asciilifeform: but in the sense of 'mamie on premises', from the inmate end imho it makes perceptible diff.
asciilifeform: in the sense that all of reich is subject to whatever 'labour law' etc. ? sure
mircea_popescu: in short : you ~did~ sign the damned thing whether they bothered to print one to give you to sign or not.
mircea_popescu: in some places. but in the fifty contiguous shitholes, it comes in "admittedly feedlot" and "deniedly feedlot" flaours.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, should quarantine be established, the differences imagined by the cattle between billy bob and that slick asshole at the industrial farm down the streed vanish
mircea_popescu: consider the very similar case of cattle farm : cattle may think billy bob farmer is an ok guy, and doesn't even go to town that often.
mircea_popescu: and if you do not believe, the test is spelled out in ye olde http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-enforcement/ : start some shit about hot-topic-du-jour, see how "your boss" suddenly isn't what he seemed.
asciilifeform: afaik there isn't yet a thing where he gotta hire politruk to 'sexual harass' ~himself~
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for my enlightenment, pray tell, who is the 'hr mamie' when 1 d00d runs 'owner-operator' co ?
mircea_popescu: in the end what i'm saying is this : what you perceive as two types (with, and without mammie) are the same type, with mammie. the without-mammie type is illegal. the perceived without-mammie type is merely a particularly cheap outft, where your position is so low you're not showed it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in the small shitholes, 'mamie' comes mainly in the form of ruinous taxations ( erry d00d is taxes as 'businessman' , ~2x the usual rate )
mircea_popescu: the quataris also don't routinely introduce the indian slaves to the qatari admin office.
mircea_popescu: again -- just because you personally never saw the face of the usg allocated mamie in charge of usg.aspect in question doesn't mean jack. she's still there, and she's still getting the same per capita.
mircea_popescu: there's hr for hot dog stands.
asciilifeform: note that the 'hot dog stands' aint any kinda 'workers paradise' , even tho 'no hr'
mircea_popescu: yet mocky is buried under the polar opposite of that -- "security clearance" bs.
mircea_popescu: to cursory examination it'd be the cheapest/sweetest fruit for them, ~nothing else a prospective employer could say scores nearly as highly with prospective employees ~worth employing~.
mircea_popescu: there's a reason neither methlabs nor sane workplaces ~advertise~. "come work here, we don't do the whole usg bs".
mircea_popescu: so yes, i guess "went bankrupt, totally existed, i promise -- never made money never had employees" etc works in the sense of exception.
mircea_popescu: pretense to the contrary howsoever instantiated notwithstanding.
asciilifeform: these appear when you have ~80+ (i fughet exact #, varies by state) warm bodies.
mircea_popescu: i guarantee you you signed "code of conduct" and promised not to "sexually harass" coworkers and filed in your tax forms and whatnot. ALL of the whatnot.
asciilifeform: or, say, the ones where asciilifeform toiled ( also defunkt today. but not killed 'because no hr' by usg, went old-fashioned broke )
mircea_popescu: when i discuss some random cuntlet and you propose she's inexistent, i get you concretes. when you discuss some imaginary item, you don't extend the same courtesy.
asciilifeform: they're 'unprincipled exception', in same was as in old su 'cooperatives'
mircea_popescu: there where ?
asciilifeform: well forbidden is forbidden, neh. yet there they are, subcontracting for 'lockheed' etc, for decades ( and on occasion when inca deems it's time, 'have problems', joe stack-style, but not otherwise )
mircea_popescu: it is literally forbidden in the sense cooking meth is.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 16:12 asciilifeform: an incidentally interesting bit is that gardens are an 'unprincipled exception' in usgdom just as they were in su. theoretically a garden aficionado owes every 4th tomato or whatever his 'bracket' is, to usg, as tax; things that grow from the ground count, famously, as 'income' -- even if not sold -- per 'wickard v. filburn'
asciilifeform: it's forbidden in the sense gardening ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743774 ) is.
mircea_popescu: in the sense of meth kitchen not legal.
mircea_popescu: because the item you describe is ~not even legal~
asciilifeform: i admit it's how i picture the joint where ben_vulpes and trinque live
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik, to the extent anyffin resembling engineering still happens in current usa -- it happens in places like that. four greybeards in a barn.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, there's the narrow windows and indications the exterior walls extend above the roof creating a slow fence for the azeotea.
BingoBoingo: Everything about that building's exterior except the entrance could be here in orcistan.
asciilifeform: ( wonder, are they even alive nao? date '2009'... )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dunno re 'select'. recall the shithub experiment ? good % of the pages had 'brickface' on'em iirc
mircea_popescu: i suspect we also select for them
a111: Logged on 2019-01-07 16:04 mircea_popescu: nes, #Malware #cybersecurity Specialist and Author at @Hacker_Combat * Real-Life News Reader" << https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/958699043579871232/ntdF9E5X.jpg perfectly punchable amir taaki face) and so well... it's either his irl gf or his online fursona, whichever.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-07#1885361 << there's by nao a lengthy gallery of these 'asking for brick'(tm) faces in the l0gz. i admit to curiosity re how come these folx so reliably have'em.
mircea_popescu: but yes, the perpetual and universal hostis generis is precisely this "wanna everything be good and why can't everyone just be friends" schmuck.
mircea_popescu: still not getting any, but heck, WELL ON THE WAY TO
asciilifeform: before long, http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-06#1885108 will be the only permitted domestic animal in reich.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman he can unanimously agree all by his lonesome! because prajeet, they be legion.
BingoBoingo: Before too long dogs will prolly be "banned" in the UK because offensive to muslims
BingoBoingo: Still the decay Pantsuitism has wrought in 20 centuries must be documented
asciilifeform: 'if the great inca wants you to have dog, he will issue you one' or how did it go.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lol; what didja ~think~ brit parliament did on typical weekday, when not busy fellating overseas hitler . naturally 'making rules' re the procedure for selling dogs , etc, 'regulating' what time of day 'subjects of her majesty' may take a shit, and similar
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> that "unanimously agree" is cherry on top << Consult the traditional culture of Indo-Argentina http://trilema.com/2015/why-should-the-argentine-population-go-graze-already/#selection-31.0-45.71
BingoBoingo: Well if they can "council house" Syrian refugees from Ghana...
mircea_popescu: anyway, this lulztron just won't quit. "Kriti Sarda, Recently moved to the United States Answered Jan 6, 2016 I work at Appknox and we are thought leaders in the mobile app security domain. I can unanimously agree with everyone here that cyber attacks WILL rise in 2016. Apart from that here are our predictions for the upcoming year - " (meanwhile this quora expert moved back to dfjkhgfkjhgkdjhkfj injia"
mircea_popescu: there, intel kicks in : julia sowells, lives with mom @3036 Powell Rd, Blossvale, NY 13308, a single family home worth about 100k market / 60k on tax basis. 2 bedrooms, 1 bath, 1ksqft.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> rright but douchebag passed, at least initially, turing test, and these 'people' generally do not << Lacking tits douchbag has to try to brand and personality. Having tits in the Femoocracy, girl just has to scrape and paste.
mircea_popescu: awww, you're opting out of the wonderful world of IT expert guidance and insight ?!
mircea_popescu: nes, #Malware #cybersecurity Specialist and Author at @Hacker_Combat * Real-Life News Reader" << https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/958699043579871232/ntdF9E5X.jpg perfectly punchable amir taaki face) and so well... it's either his irl gf or his online fursona, whichever.
mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/juliasowells/status/907929912945795072 << item starts in 13 Sep 2017 ; spends a while derping about "niche relevant" re-crapped crap ("First Female White House CIO on #Cybersecurity #Talent" bla bla), buncha zdnet, techradar whatever. then it's "Julia Sowells Retweeted Kevin Jones @kevinjones_hc 10 Oct 2017 British @security experts are stopping two MAJOR #hackattacks every day" ("Hello this is Kevin Jo
asciilifeform: it's gone, what's left is descendants of 'computer shopper magazine' and other 80s chump-baits
asciilifeform: research folx had research-grade irons , and ~separate ecosystem. ( pdp, then suns, hp, sgi, alpha, even bolix somewhere close to money printers, etc. but that 'atlantis' sank without a trace )
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i've only seen the other side of the wall 80s, and it consisted of research labs, basically. just like any others, hence the prestige.
asciilifeform: and i even witnessed the early-90s 'space', e.g. http://www.loper-os.org/?p=568#selection-57.0-57.368 , as a kid, and even then laughed.
asciilifeform: i also have nfi what the 'space' might have looked like prior to 'getting redefined' -- near as i can tell, whole 'industry', from rise of microshit and up, consisted of exactly this
asciilifeform: there were chix, to be sure, but doing the old-nicolecci thing, shuffling paper ~silently
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: possibly; but i'ma not that despite many unfortunate yrs spent in the company of the degenerates populating that 'biz', never once witnessed a perpetrator describable as female
mircea_popescu: heck, odds are they met "at a conference" where they "being professional" to each other etc (ie, didn't fuck, notwithstanding how dimly regarded teens who don't do it are)
asciilifeform: rright but douchebag passed, at least initially, turing test, and these 'people' generally do not
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu says it's actual meat gurlz doin' this, rather than plain old perl, i'ma believe
mircea_popescu: letting the girls into the office was ~such~ a fucking dumb idea... what, precisely, is gained by having a bunch of verbose maids running about attempting to "redefine" the "space" more towards their terms and interests ?
mircea_popescu: Therefore in this blog, lets take a look at some of the cyber security measures every entrepreneur should take, to ensure their startup stays safe from all forms of hacking."
mircea_popescu: "If you are one of those enthusiastic and adventurous entrepreneurs who are on the verge of launching your own startup, heres an important question for you: Have you secured your startup enough so that it can resist the security threats of today? Because if you havent, considering the security threats which are raining down on the digital world of today, you may in for a lot of trouble.
mircea_popescu: i think anyone who spent any significant time with the damned "bauds" could whistle a reset so as not to stand up
mircea_popescu: no, because i could eventually whistle meaningfully @ the modem.
asciilifeform: actual human reader is quite out of his element there. it's sorta like listening to modem whine.
mircea_popescu: "DanaBot Banking Trojans Journey to North America DanaBot, a nasty banking trojan is wreaking havoc now in the North American continent. First appeared in May 2018 targeting Australian corporations hackercombat.com " << check it out, age of sail.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-07#1885323 << ~100% of heathenwww is precisely 'alt-fetlife' by mass
mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/juliasowells << even twitter acct, with a typically "powerpoint"-informed montage in the background. " Julia Sowells @juliasowells Senior #Information #Security Specialist #Cybersecurity Author @Hacker_Combat | Got Tips? Contact me: juliasowells@hackercombat.com"
mircea_popescu: research of your ownThe first thing that you need to do is inform your hosting company or the person who is hosting your website."
mircea_popescu: "10 Steps to Recover from a Hacked Website By Julia Sowells techspective.net A website getting hacked isnt really news today; it has become an almost common thing. So, what should you do if your website is hacked? How can you work on recovering things and bouncing back? Well, its not that difficult. Heres a look at some easy steps that could help in the recovery process:Step 1 Inform hosting company, do some
mircea_popescu: wnThe first thing that you need to do is inform your hosting company or the person who is hosting your website. "
mircea_popescu: "Security Boulevard By Julia Sowells securityboulevard.com A website getting hacked isnt really news today; it has become an almost common thing. So, what should you do if your website is hacked? How can you work on recovering things and bouncing back? Well, its not that difficult. Heres a look at some easy steps that could help in the recovery process:Step 1 Inform hosting company, do some research of your o
mircea_popescu: "www" stands for "what happens if all the dogs get the idea nobody can tell they're dogs ?!?!?!"
BingoBoingo: /me pretty sure the whole "webfonts only have malicious purposes" deal has been happening since webfonts were a thing
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i suspect perl script takes pressrelease and attached $randomchix face and shannonized 'bio' , in these fishwraps
mircea_popescu: ross the world. We have lived it for more than 1 year since 2017, sharing IT expert guidance and insight, [...] ")
mircea_popescu: meanwhile talking of spam : http://archive.vn/oMEya ("Julia Sowells/534 Posts Julia Sowells has been a technology and security professional. For a decade of experience in technology, [...]" -- looks like your run of the mill 20something instawhore, but whatever, i'm sure she has a decade of "experience" in tabletclucking ; "HackerCombat LLC is a news site, which acts as a source of information for IT security professionals ac
a111: Logged on 2014-06-04 00:08 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the buggers' traditional defense is to pretend that the event was a non-event - or, if this is impractical, to continue living in an imaginary world where they 'scooped' the story first, and all of the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in 'mit phuctor'-style lulzattempts at thefts from republic, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/vL8Rj/?raw=true << d00d implements keccak for z80, and naturally claims great 'invention', where , e.g., 'new meaning to retrocomputing-based perfect forward secrecy. In the contemporary concern about tampering and traps in our computing devices...'
mircea_popescu: in other news, i fucking loathe that interactivecorp footer. never EVER seen it on a site that didn't suck balls in the exact wikipedia style of cheap cardboard alt-reality.
mircea_popescu: all this retarded posturing. "threat actors", and pixelized screenshots and what the fuck. well earned negrate.
billymg: excellent, that will be my next task then
mircea_popescu: i expect you could prolly cut the loc in half, with some sweat.
billymg: i think there also might be some opportunities to remove code from mp-wp. for example, the included tinymce browser text-editor plugin seems to come with three different themes. i haven't looked too closely but i'm guessing only one of them is actually used
billymg: it's been nice working on this, if there are other items people want to see done i can look at those too
billymg: although i believe there was one valid .png reference for avatar.png that links to the avatar.png hosted on a commenter's blog
billymg: well, not used as image references, but other instances of those strings. used in, e.g. matchers in a conditional in some script
mircea_popescu: there are such ?!
billymg: hanbot: i put together a patch for the svg links mentioned earlier: http://billymg.com/2019/01/mp-wp-vpatch-update-internal-image-references-to-point-to-svg-extensions/
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 16:12 asciilifeform: an incidentally interesting bit is that gardens are an 'unprincipled exception' in usgdom just as they were in su. theoretically a garden aficionado owes every 4th tomato or whatever his 'bracket' is, to usg, as tax; things that grow from the ground count, famously, as 'income' -- even if not sold -- per 'wickard v. filburn'
asciilifeform: ( the very moment, really, when all remaining pretense of 'this aint a reich, and fdr aint fuhrer' was dropped )
mircea_popescu: it's techically illegal in the us anyway, "impede interstate commerce".
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-06#1885215 << I know of a biz in oregon, grows all manner of crops, independently owned by revelations cult, makes own biofuel, but yes, they might be the only one.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re tobaccism and its discontents -- i find lulzy that 'secondhand smoke' hysteria expanded to include those electrical things that emit theatric-'smoke', somehow with straight face, even tho less poisonous than typical chix perfume, or vodka breath etc
mircea_popescu: hanbot im sure it got a whole "orange man" spray paint, to cover over the cracking in the previous "ows" paintjob.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-05 18:05 mircea_popescu: aand in other items of entomological interest, the wikipedia take on politicized pseudo-literary criticism is something else. aphra behn is lionized, because they're ever-so-desperate to discover, invent or if need be entirely hallucinate "remarkable" cuntbearers of the shakespeare period that some random jailbird is A HEROINE OF FEMINISM!!!
hanbot most recently ran into this particular flavor of wikiwank when looking for specific incident lead on ms-13 the other day, was bombarded by "trump falsely claims!!!"
a111: Logged on 2017-11-04 16:40 mircea_popescu: in entirely unrelated lulz : the "womenz in tech" dynastry of aparatchicks over at wikipedia is pretty lulzi : sue gardner's lengthy tenure ended (she was recycled to nsa honeypot "tor project") to be replaced by lila tretikov, two bit russki scammer gal who got sent off (over the whole "knowledge engine" failed wikimedia http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-26#1729324 attempt) to be replaced by katherine maher.
mircea_popescu: well no, the page on http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-04#1733001 doesn't say "sue gardern is a sad sack of neoplasms". though this is factually true, all humans contain some neoplastic tissue.
asciilifeform: it reads exactly like ~erry other wikipg.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the point is precisely the ridoinculous pretense of wikitards that their particularly weird and slanty libel sheet is exactly not-that.
asciilifeform: they also dun mention 'sky is blue' and 'water is wet'..
mircea_popescu: you don't see "african americans are the scum of the human race, accidentally transported against their own capacity to our lands" in the respective article, do you ?
mircea_popescu: for one thing, nicotine is not addictive. for the other thing, EVERYTHING in the us is glue paint and floor sweepings, from usda a+ beef to coca cola.
mircea_popescu: ~none~ of the points are factual. moreover, imagine an "encyclopedic" article on, say, obama, in the same terms.
mircea_popescu: e addictive (because of nicotine) and cause cancer, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, heart disease, and other health problems. "
mircea_popescu: scraps, and shaped into curls.[1] The cigarette is ignited at one end, causing it to smolder and allowing smoke to be inhaled from the other end, which is held in or to the mouth. Most modern cigarettes are filtered, although this does not make them safer. Cigarette manufacturers have described cigarettes as a drug administration system for the delivery of nicotine in acceptable and attractive form.[2][3][4][5] Cigarettes ar
mircea_popescu: "A cigarette is a narrow cylinder containing psychoactive material, usually tobacco, that is rolled into thin paper for smoking. Most cigarettes contain a "reconstituted tobacco" product known as "sheet", which consists of "recycled [tobacco] stems, stalks, scraps, collected dust, and floor sweepings", to which are added glue, chemicals and fillers; the product is then sprayed with nicotine that was extracted from the tobacco
mircea_popescu: let's take the first para.
asciilifeform: massive snoar , loox like, entirely like other wikisms
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, check out the smoldering wikirage : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cigarette
asciilifeform: the tomato-sellers take it to usg booth and trade it for ordinary moneys, minus tax.
asciilifeform: at one point i noticed that at the food market , good chunk of the crowd wasn't paying with money, or even card, but with wooden monopoly money thing . mostly mex-looking chix, with children. turns out, it's what 'welfare' comes in naodays
BingoBoingo: Indeed. Which network the employer picks determines employee dietary decisions.
asciilifeform: they do that here with train tickets.
asciilifeform: lol! 'i owe my soul to the company store'(tm)(r)
BingoBoingo: Then again here they also have this privatized food stand deal where employers can issue a part of employee pay as "alimentation tickets"
BingoBoingo: They try that here too. Pay with card get X% back as VAT rebate.
asciilifeform: it varies by vendor, and whether yer an idjit (idjits pay interest, cuz they actually use the card as a credit line)
asciilifeform: i was speaking of general-purpose 'bank gives you 5% of the spent money back'
BingoBoingo: They try that here. Many of the big chain sucker traps here will offer incredible discounts for using the right card to the point it is anti advertising the pricing of their wares.
asciilifeform: likbez for outside-reich folx : in reich, when folx pay with e.g. 'visa', vendors lose ~5% (they pay for privilege of eating it) and konsoomer wins ~5% ('reward point', exact qty varies by flavour-of-the-day)
asciilifeform: well orcistans typically can't afford to do what usg does ( i.e. print green with which, among other things, to pay chumps to use cards, in the form of 'reward point' )
BingoBoingo: Well, one thing the oppresive VAT here does is keep something of a cash economy alive
asciilifeform: for all i know , somewhere in the reich there's still an old amish d00d remaining, plowing field with horse, eschewing ipnoje, etc. or maybe usg already found him and put into психушка and took land for unpaid tribute.
BingoBoingo: Plenty of times in old country I'd see the Amish buggies going up IL-13 to the Murphysboro Walmart in order to commune with Inca
asciilifeform: i shit thee not.
asciilifeform: last 'independent farmer' in the reich lands, i suspect, died during reign of carter. if not earlier.
BingoBoingo: 's easy to hide the inputs behind big ears
asciilifeform: point, from lizard pov, is not so much to '+ev project', but to put new nails in the coffin of the independent farmer.
asciilifeform: it has 'level 9000' incaization potential tho. hence the interest in the 2 major inca camps.