punkman: good clothes last longer than that
cazalla: i don't even buy new clothes in like 2-3 years
BingoBoingo: yeah. some time in the past I occasionally enjoyed other substances, but... Bitcoin happened.
BingoBoingo: punkman: Well, "drugs" is they pretext of convenience used before resorting to that one.
punkman: BingoBoingo: I thought the pretext was "how dare you have nice things"
cazalla: i thought the japanese way was to steal your shit
Adlai: it's the japanese way
kakobrekla: >Later in the the night, we went up to his apartment, where I spotted a couple of bongs. At some point, Shrem told me, “I won’t hire you unless I drink with you or smoke weed with you—that’s a 100 percent fact.”
cazalla: fkn unaustralian cunts never heard of a mr juicy bottle and the ever shortening garden hose?
gribble: Bitcoin Millionaire Charlie Shrem of BitInstant Arrested - Vocativ: <http://www.vocativ.com/tech/bitcoin/bitcoin-millionaire-charlie-shrem-arrested-money-laundering/>; My Night Out With Bitcoin Millionaire and Proud Stoner Charlie Shrem: <http://www.vocativ.com/tech/bitcoin/night-bitcoin-millionaire-proud-stoner-charlie-shrem/>; THE CRYPTO SHOW | Bringing the world of technology, (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: Adlai: You really do here. Or to otherwise be boring.
cazalla: Adlai, i don't think shrem is in the lock up yet anyway
kakobrekla: <punkman> his book is a fun read < yup, quite out there.
Adlai: 'bong was a part of the USG lowering Shrem into pederastry' << ?
Adlai: vaping alcohol sounds rather dangerous, plant matter is easy enough to ignite, why fuck with biofuel
gribble: Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "rate" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin.
cazalla: ;;later rate adlai -100 insinuates i am not a law abiding citizen of the commonwealth of australia
gribble: Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "rate" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin.
Adlai: ;;later rate cazalla -1 unless he smokes the sticky tabiccy
cazalla: i never smoked the wacky toboacky in my life
cazalla: to*.. clearly i am under the effects of medicinal alcohol at this very moment
cazalla: i'm the first the campaign about the medicinal effects of alcohol over the medicinal effects of herbs
cazalla: who really knows the fkn truth of it all though
cazalla: punkman, from what i've read, greenhouse seeds posers ripped the mothers off nev and mr nice
BingoBoingo: punkman: That was more a concern for the local authorities. If the feds knew, they almost always just kept such information in J Edgar's blackmail file.
cazalla: Adlai, i dunno, seemed he was intent on acting like an autistic retard the entire movie
Adlai saw some review that maintained that just that casting choice invalidated the rest of the movie
mats: 1:1 odds the iraqis will flee on contact
TheNewDeal: !down TheNewDeal
gribble: Bitstamp | There are currently 5830.8258 bitcoins demanded at or over 216.9 USD, worth 1354479.01693 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0220 seconds
NewLiberty: decimation, the cash car loans operation is registered to do it. They do pawn for cars so fairly high value goods. I may try to sell the owner on the idea since he was contemplating starting an exchange.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
thestringpuller: falling asleep at a computer is one of the most amazing feelings ever
decimation: well, the bigger picture is that usg is not going to be able to threaten russia or china as much as it used to
asciilifeform: in j. sladek's 'tik tok', sf novel in '83, in the 'dark future' (tm) an aircraft-carrier-with-wheels, vast and infinitely expensive, is finally built
mircea_popescu: anyway, it will be the lol of all time if the carrier-sub joint at the seams frankenstein resembles anything the fighter-bomber-helicopter-drone f35 attempt.
asciilifeform: how many nuke subs left in usa? and how many janitors who haven't torched theirs yet
mircea_popescu: decimation basically they're really desperate to maintain as much projection into future budgets, but in point of fact... maintaining both a carrier and a nuclear powered sub programme isn't likely.
mircea_popescu: well, whether it's here yet or not... things still evolve one way. all i said was re this direction.
mats: i hope they called james cameron
decimation: " New ASW technologies and improve- ments to non-nuclear undersea platforms, however, will likely enable adversaries to comple- ment their surface and air A2/AD networks with undersea surveillance and attack systems. These may not have the reach of anti-ship ballistic missiles or modern surface-to-air missiles, but they have the potential to make the undersea littorals of a potential adversary an increas- ingly denied zone. "
mircea_popescu: mats it becomes insanely more expensive to quiet them down as time passes.
decimation: emitted by a submarine also date from the Cold War and may benefit from the improved sensitivity “big data” could provide."
decimation: "Emerging non-acoustic detection techniques also show great promise. The theoretical possibilities of detecting minute changes on the ocean’s surface caused by a submarine or the wake it leaves underwater have been widely recognized since the Cold War, but only now have processing power and oceanographic modeling improved to the point where these approaches may be operationally feasible. Methods to detect radiation or chemicals
mircea_popescu: and once they can't actually work tactically anymore, they're basically a smaller submersible carrier.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's just that the advantages of subs (quietness, depth) are less and less valuable
mats: ill investigate later then
asciilifeform: they launched biplanes and even triplanes from subs
decimation: asciilifeform: on page 14 of the linked pdf you can see a picture of sub 'taking off' uav
mircea_popescu: because it reflects the wave / crushes
mircea_popescu: actually floor is very dangerous with the new seeking missiles
mircea_popescu: mats so is the sub.
decimation: the paper in question seems to imply it's mainly a matter of what happens when the sub gets too close to shore
mats: i imagine its easier to defend a sub rather than a carrier
mircea_popescu: face the same risk profiles etc.
mircea_popescu: well, it makes little sense to keep a nuclear sub and a carrier these days
assbot: Are Submarines About to Become Obsolete? | The National Interest ... ( http://bit.ly/1z68UKz )
decimation: agreed, that's another matter
mircea_popescu: and there's nothing wrong with that.
mircea_popescu: anyone can defend, these days, because of rocketry.
mircea_popescu: "defend its airspace" is irrelevant here. the us is unable to project.
decimation: but it is probably also the case that ru could inflict serious damage
decimation: I seriously doubt the us would be unable to defend its airspace
decimation: they would probably not derp around in enemy airspace
mircea_popescu: for one thing, the horn holds pretty much a shot. for the other, ru actually has air superiority since about 2013.
mircea_popescu: not the case here.
mircea_popescu: us is like the sniper : has one good shot. if he misses that one, or if you get in range... dead.
decimation: each one of those tu-95's can carry cruise missiles that can individually fly 600 km, so these missions are merely propaganda runs
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform unfortunately, the us response in ukr is proportionately larger than the us response would be in england, for the sameactivity.
decimation: not least to the russians
decimation: "„Es wird diesem Land nicht einfach gemacht, seinen Weg in Freiheit und Selbstbestimmtheit zu finden.“ Der Prozess bleibe schwierig." < It is not easy for this country [ukraine] to find its way to freedom and self determination" [Merkel] said
asciilifeform: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/media/11426319/Times-publisher-News-UK-launches-internal-investigation-after-suicides-of-two-members-of-its-commercial-staff.html << from the tales of the nailgun squadron
decimation: doh "As two RAF Typhoon fighters were scrambled on Wednesday evening to escort Russian long range bombers flying off Cornwall, military chiefs said that the UK “could not cope” with an all-out attack as our defences have been “decimated”. "
assbot: The Lack of Gentle Platonic Touch in Men's Lives is a Killer - ... ( http://bit.ly/1z66204 )
mats: http://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/megasahd-the-lack-of-gentle-platonic-touch-in-mens-lives-is-a-killer kek
asciilifeform: there we go
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: you're very nearly at the part that catastrophically fails
decimation: I read most of the books. my conclusion is that rowling got 'lucky'
asciilifeform: on the original
asciilifeform: we did discuss the author on at least one occasion
assbot: Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality, Chapter 108: The Truth, Pt 5, Answers and Riddles ... ( http://bit.ly/1z64djP )
fuddos: sorry for the connect spam. It looks like the ddos bot is either inactive, amazon filters, or it filters amazon
mircea_popescu: On 20 October 2010 von Anhalt was taken to the hospital after swallowing a bee, which then stung him in the throat. On 22 December 2010 von Anhalt was rushed to the hospital after gluing his eye shut with nail glue.
mircea_popescu: yet he managed to call the authorities on a cellular phone. Los Angeles police found him completely naked approximately one hour later. No handcuffs were found at the scene. The culprits apparently drove away in a Chrysler convertible."
mircea_popescu: "On 25 July 2007, Prinz von Anhalt was allegedly approached by three women he described as attractive while sitting in his Rolls-Royce in Southern California. They asked him to pose for pictures with them, at which point one of the women robbed him at gunpoint, taking his car keys, jewelry, wallet, driver's license and all his clothes. According to Prinz von Anhalt, his assailants bound him and placed him in handcuffs,
fuddos: sorry I had ntp running, disregard the earlier statement
fuddos: it looks like the ddos bot spams on 1 minute intervals
decimation: it seems that if you claimed to be a german prince today you would have a mob of kids appear. They would loudly explain why they aren't going to have sex with you, play golf against you, and then exhibit hate for you in the form of a interpretive dance
mircea_popescu: you can't be a german prince anyway, their socialistoid government transformed them into names.
mircea_popescu: punkman if i cared i'd point out that i went through the guy's chicks pics, nothing impressing in there. if asciilifeform were emotionally involved in the markus prince he'd say that's obviously because he's keeping the good photos secret.
punkman: this illegitimate princehood is gonna end up living longer than the real thing isn't it? every derp will adopt another derp and so on
fuddos: and it appears to block nearly all of the upnp spam
fuddos: It looks like amazon blocks at least some of the ntp udp spam
punkman: mircea_popescu: (the guy fatass kim is trying to immitate, basically. paid $$ to be adopted by some ex german prince) << lol! Prince Frederic (Gabor's current husband) paid some old lady to adopt him too, rest of family doesn't recognize him.
assbot: Logged on 10-02-2015 22:36:45; asciilifeform: let's do a 'trichotomy' on the netbsd thing. as far as i can see, there are three and only three possibilities in a case like this (i am deliberately not including the forth, of my being a muppet.) 1) whole orchestra -never- worked 2) once worked, but a sniveling shitgnome fucked with the docs 3) docs were once correct and described a working sys, but a sniveling shitgnome changed the code 'because pr
asciilifeform: and the method described in available literature doesn't work
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: there is no built-in means of making small ramdisks
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: it isn't one of the steps at all
fuddos: there are a few ntp reflections
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: the tools (gcc and binutils) take a while
mircea_popescu: (the guy fatass kim is trying to immitate, basically. paid $$ to be adopted by some ex german prince)
decimation: heh was bagels giving the middle finger to mr. ddos?
decimation: NewLiberty: Under what law is this [pawn btc trade] offending?<< specifically, finra has declared that anyone who would conduct such a transaction to be a 'money transmitter' and thus would need to register with finra and the local state authorities in charge of such matters
mircea_popescu: yeah, you gotta be in one. tits or gtfo is the rule.
punkman: "When asked, "How many husbands have you had?", she was quoted as responding, "You mean other than my own?""
BingoBoingo: Kim was in the one porno
mircea_popescu: bitponzi you're from argentina then ?
mircea_popescu: same thing that dumb old bitch in florida was doing. the "nonorary assbassador"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: gotta appreciate that this is about as real to me as a $500M synchrophasotron. i.e., i get the basic principle involved, but have never seen with own eyes nor know in person anyone who has
mircea_popescu: there is that small inconvenience of how they're insistently trained not to, but nothing major.
mircea_popescu: (ie, the "civilised world")
mircea_popescu: there's very little competent, dedicated woman can't achieve in loser society
asciilifeform does not live on that planet, has never visited, but believes the story
mircea_popescu: if you're the sort that he was describing, you don't care so much what it costs, you care what it gets you.
mircea_popescu: that's thje idea. if you're the sort that keeps 2-3 chicks off the street, micromanage their day, you save on the electricity bill.
mircea_popescu: 10k in the hands of a judicious woman can readily beat 1mn in lobby funds.
mircea_popescu: some women you don't care if they spend 10k a month, because they create 1mn of value or w/e.
mircea_popescu: if you're the roller type, keep numerous, market scaling of power.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform depends. if you're the homebody sort, keep 2-3 girls, marked economy of scale.
mircea_popescu: NOT one of the daughers in marriage tho.,
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> danielpbarron: but a random person off the street cannot enter that world simply by asking. << you know this is actually a great idea for a movie.
mike_c: seems they've been having a lot of trouble lately
NewLiberty: ^^ yes, my friend that does this has household expenses >US$50K per month. Not your average person on the street.
ascii_field: danielpbarron: but a random person off the street cannot enter that world simply by asking.
ascii_field: danielpbarron: yes! they have. by being part of social networks that are empire-in-empire
ascii_field: and risk being billed again and again for other imagined tax liabilities
jurov: i was thinking you just need to prove where you got the dough
ascii_field: granted, i am possibly the only one here who understands why this can be an insurmountable problem
NewLiberty: Sure, the presumption is that you do it as a pawn shop.
ascii_field: NewLiberty: under the book-length morass of regulations pertaining to pawn shops where i live
mircea_popescu: ascii_field the problem you espouse is entirely of your own imagination.
NewLiberty: It sounds like a good business idea though. Send your bitcoin to bitcoinpawn, get some fiat loan with it as collateral. Pay back the fiat with interest to reclaim your bitcoins. Miss a payment and you have to buy them back at the retail price.
ascii_field: what's the diff << if you mention bitcoin in a pawn shop here, and aren't thrown out as a nut, you're dealing with -an individual- rather than an institution under any kind of legal constraint
mats: jurov: dunno why the page is down. bright side, the content of those links are easily google-able
jurov: bank can fuck you too, what's the diff?
jurov: why? they can't get MSC-registered?
ascii_field: not without having the first or second marketeer i'd run into be a usg stooge set up for precisely this kind of harvesting
ascii_field: so i couldn't go there for any amount of money
NewLiberty: They give secured loans with the arbitrary stuff of value as collateral. When the borrower doesn't pay the stuff is sold.
ascii_field: there is a reason why 'silk road' etc were fantastically popular
ascii_field: the pawn shops we have here are more or less the farthest thing from the actual healthy black market (which is, i'm told, vast, but a n00b has no way whatsoever to safely connect to it, which was my original point)
ascii_field: the idea, as i understand, is that price is slowly lowered (as debt carries on) until the thing is gone
ascii_field: neh they look like normal junk stores
ascii_field: yes they exist here. regulated as tightly as gun shops (in fact, the two are often combined into one establishment)
mircea_popescu: why the fuck i keep saying pond jesus im tired.
ascii_field looks for 'washington dc black market but not the usg stoolies' phone book
mircea_popescu: to any functioning suchshop. "o wow, they have really thick glass and they make me put the stuff in that roller thing"
jurov: lmao "How do I stop the bees getting to the honey while it’s draining out of the Flow™ hive?"
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the countermeasures aren't usually something a clever person can learn from reading books
mircea_popescu: but i didn't mean "the world" per se. i just mean, idiots try to rob a bookie, goes nowhere. why not ?
cazalla: jurov, and i don't mean your use of it as a metaphor but the thing itself has me interested
ascii_field: 'hey kid, wanna join the terroristz?'
ascii_field: and picture what happens if someone who grew up with virtually no social skills were to attempt to find a way into world of 'snatch' (much less actually work there)
mircea_popescu: people work as tellers in pond shops for minimum wage. there's no big deal humint involved.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, i wonder just how much the cops would be willing to pay if ransomware maker crafted it specifically for gov depts and not at home users
ascii_field: re: earlier thread: somewhat reminiscent of the 'sling dope' thread on mircea_popescu's www
mircea_popescu: another one ?
ascii_field: but there are some automatics.
ascii_field: lol no. pet does not touch the console
dignork: mircea_popescu: wawert is the guy I mentioned to you earlier
mircea_popescu: lol great story bro, except... "gimme your valuables". what's so revolutionary there ?
mircea_popescu: "Bitcoin, the technology thats meant to revolutionize the way we think of money, is simultaneously revolutionizing the way we get mugged."
ascii_field: point was trying to make was that mass economics (e.g. weed) are not applicable to ultra-niche affair where there are maybe three people in a continent who can even begin to attempt $task
mircea_popescu: ascii_field> but that the intersection of folks who -have- the problem, and those able to solve it, is thus far zero << this is merely an artefact of your own perspective, is my story an' im stickig to it.
The20YearIRCloud: Just about, granted I think what happens is they require personal financial statements from a person during the proceeding, and he declared ~$40k worth of stock
The20YearIRCloud: especially with this new down time, the problem is what to do to give investors liquidity
mike_c: have you given any further thought to unwinding from havelock?
mike_c: heh. that must have been interesting for the court. "see, i have units in a fund of this panamaian company that has shares in this other company"
The20YearIRCloud: I was told they were
mike_c: wait, were RENT shares actually mentioned in the court proceedings? or just a general order.
The20YearIRCloud: Plus the banks are slowly catching on to our plans
The20YearIRCloud: It was, court gave one of our largest shareholders a few months to sell all his stock which led to the price being in a slump for quite some time, now it's all worked through and the price can at least have a chance to rise
The20YearIRCloud: The big thing was working through the bankrupt shareholder(s) that were forced to liquidate, it took seemingly forever to work through them
The20YearIRCloud: We're hovering around the $3/share area
The20YearIRCloud: Business is good, just have one vacancy on a house we just finished, other than that things seem to be doing well
mike_c: !up The20YearIRCloud
gribble: The20YearIRCloud was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 10 weeks, 3 days, 22 hours, 58 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <The20YearIRCloud> Big thing has been to have em look over all the financial documents as we're filing taxes for 2014 next month and I didn't want to submit till they had a good idea of it.
thestringpuller: ;;seen The20YearIRCloud
ascii_field: the cash register won't 'ding' without a passkey from stalin
NewLiberty: I almost became 'unbanked' this week. I've had >10 accounts terminated by banks this year. It seems with the latest guidance from the Fed, banks categorize 'precious metal dealers' in the same bin as 'arms traders' and 'ponzi operators'.
ascii_field: but i for one can more easily comprehend how to move to ar and learn to be a shoemaker or ocelot-walker or whatever, than turning into one of the above
ascii_field: and yes there are many folks in usa who run on cash
ascii_field: NewLiberty: that's precisely the observation i was making: there is no one who has found it worth his while to solve the problem for others
NewLiberty: If there were more with the problem ic could be 'worth it' to you to solve it for yourself and others.
ascii_field: with all the usual sequelae.
ascii_field: danielpbarron: that is.. not outside the realm of possibility for me... not that i've made such an inquiry << the odds are that after you were to make two or three such inquiries, you will come across a usg stoolie
ascii_field: suggesting that the combination is 'not thermodynamically favoured' to borrow the chemists' expression
ascii_field: but that the intersection of folks who -have- the problem, and those able to solve it, is thus far zero
ascii_field: danielpbarron: one you'd trust to have the goods physically protected in the necessary ways ?
ascii_field: danielpbarron: lucky fella, must be 100% theorist. i, for one, couldn't even get any of my experimental supplies without using electric fiat
NewLiberty: Only if they sell anything anywhere for dollars
ascii_field: NewLiberty: nothing to do with libel suites. notice that not one av vendor on the planet has yet fingered usg in the open. regardless of how obvious (e.g., 'stuxnet') the smoking guns.
NewLiberty: Also, plausible deniability for them to avoid making specific enemies. Presumably they like selling things and doing business in jurisdictions where assets can be seized by libelous claims.
ascii_field: ^ did i miss any other folks who live on atomic dirigibles and don't 'depend on paycheck'
ascii_field: (previous thread) if mircea_popescu seriously applied his criteria re: who is 'marginal', #b-a would likely be the #mircea_popescu-kakobrekla-jurov channel instead
ascii_field: picture this call to icann: them: 'who' k: 'nsa. please transfer domain to us'
NewLiberty: They are not dumb.
ascii_field: incidentally, one possible reason for k's use of the fictional name was to streamline the process of getting the c&c domains sinkholed
pete_dushenski annoyed that there's no cross-platform scrabble game that works between desktop and mobile w/o facefuck account
NewLiberty: I don't imagine that they are alone in that effort.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, that's kind of the problem with literature by committee. At some point someone's going to make the thing suck.
NewLiberty: A server has a storage eeprom that the enemy may already have hostage. http://securelist.com/files/2015/02/Equation_group_questions_and_answers.pdf
mircea_popescu: batman no good then.
BingoBoingo: The thing's got like 8 decades of history. Prolly happened several times.
ascii_field: who fed him to the locals
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: where does the dead usg sysadmin come in? somehow missing it
mircea_popescu: and again : sean's dead. your argument is therefore invalid.
mircea_popescu: not so many clean stacks, either.
ascii_field: not so many warrior monks on the ground in modern world, afaik
ascii_field: cheaper to knit the transistors than to build organization from scratch out of orphan bachelors
mircea_popescu: there are people who don't give a shit about some woman's spawn. more women, mopre spawn.
ascii_field: a server doesn't have a family the enemy can take hostage
mircea_popescu: " machines are exactly as 'loyal' as their operator is clever and conscientious - men are not."