Pierre_Rochard: thestringpuller: it’s the bezzle-wot. Great because of the wot part, spammy and diminished by the bezzle part
Pierre_Rochard: cazalla: ya know, when I started seeing the same art pieces from history of europe’s feed popping up, I knew it was the end
Pierre_Rochard: have to manually contact customer support at linkedin to get that removed… the lengths they’ll go to keep the serfs on the domaine
Pierre_Rochard: and every other social media thingy I had in my password manager
cazalla: Pierre_Rochard, pull the pin on twitter eh?
cazalla: today is typically the busiest day for news but it is dead
mike_c: because in the game you described, the VCs are getting taken for a ride. which happens of course, but this just seems so obviously illegal.
mike_c: i'd love to be a fly on the wall in the pitch meetings though when the investor says "so how are you not going to jail?"
mircea_popescu: or else 4b) if society doesn't bite the bait, they "street cred" because were going to 4evar totally do it.
mircea_popescu: then 4a) if society bites the bait, they "change their mind" "learn better" "unfortunately..." "they were just kids" etc, the circle / dwolla /etc playbook
mircea_popescu: mike_c see, the way i've observed this to work is like this : 1) usg makes imbecile law ; 2) society is aghast ; 3) teenaged muppets make bold claim that jives with societal expectation, blatantly in contradiction with usg policy.
ben_vulpes: i will find whoever decided to return 200 from this endpoint and encode the error in xml
thestringpuller: there was a lot of "hawala is bad" propaganda
mike_c: mhm. tell the US that.
mike_c: mircea_popescu: inbetween aspirational and funded. i heard about them because they got "best of" at reasonably big tech conference. my curiousity is mostly around the brazen attempt to do money remittance in US without being licensed.
assbot: SSL-busting adware: US cyber-plod open fire on Comodo's PrivDog • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1FBxCay )
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-03-2015#1046696 << is it actually vc stuff or just aspie stuff ? (from aspirational rather than asperger's, tho...)
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2015 14:48:15; thestringpuller: https://twitter.com/gavinandresen/status/573953967509630976 < l0l
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-03-2015#1046656 << lol, the new Tough Derp look is oddly adequate.
mircea_popescu: well, that's what chrome does too : simple rather than correct and easy rather than useful.
mircea_popescu: but hey, why confront and resolve the hard problems ? inheritance systems for the user input, explicitly set bvy the user etc ? o noes, gotta be simple
ascii_field agrees. so long as the answer isn't 'here have a little rectangle of rdesktop crapolade instead of screen-filling display-agnostic remote gui on your giant vertical lcd'
mircea_popescu: and the fact that this very fundamental principle is not precisely observed makes me not care whether x or chrome wins. they're the same shit.
mircea_popescu: x has no fucking business telling another process on its dealings with a process.
ascii_field: it also allows user to shoot himself in the head
ascii_field: because x per se doesn't impose the retardation
mircea_popescu: "my house doesn't have a hole in the roof - trivial fix" "whatever, i'm not dealing with those imbeciles".
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: there is not a non-retarded alternative today
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2015 03:27:02; decimation: apparently google wants to get rid of x11 totally and replace it with their own graphics layer
ascii_field: everything they do is 'guilty until proven innocent', which is to say, until independently arrived at by WoT folks.
ascii_field: i'd argue that these folks -simply don't get to- design cpu any more.
ascii_field: plus the 'gimme money' aspect.
ascii_field: most of all the fact of claiming credit (implicitly) for decades of the work of other, genuinely original folks.
ascii_field: i went through their material ages ago, and it set off quite a few of the 'scammer heuristics' in my head
ascii_field: surprised that usg hasn't funded them yet.
ascii_field: they've no hardware, of course.
ascii_field: damn it it ought to be in the logs
ben_vulpes: trips all sorts of bezzletronic alerts for me, but i lack the context to make judgements.
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: what's the braindamage in this "mill" processor?
ben_vulpes: jurov: fine on the vision, budget was simply my spare time.
mike_c: isn't there a shadowban? ignore or something?
cazalla: danielpbarron, lol ethereum blocked you? buterin is yet to block me even though i cuss him out 100 worse than i did gavin
ascii_field: thestringpuller: snorematic
thestringpuller: ascii_field: how's the field today good sir?
jurov: ben_vulpes what about VAN then? it had no product vision?
ascii_field: 'i counted, read the cards on the wreaths. said things like, 'from wife', 'from son', 'from mother-in-law' - but none said 'from vodka.' nobody died from vodka.'
ascii_field: wife says to drunken husband, 'every night you drink, drink, you never bring money home, you worthless piece of shit, go visit the cemetary - see how many gravestones say 'died of vodka.'..'
ascii_field: the designers of the weapon understood precisely which screw to turn in usa to make the 'engine governor' fall off and speed up the inevitable degringolade
ascii_field: because it's the ultimate d3m0cr4cy1111!!111! dope - reliable conveyor for enthroning mediocrities who then owe everything to the state
ascii_field: the participants, if told this, only make monkey noises. guaranteed.
ascii_field: the 'identity politics' idiocy is a kgb bomb set off in usa in the 1960s - at this point, a historical fact at least as well-established as the 'business plot' of the '30s
thestringpuller: is there a "trial version"
ben_vulpes: i'll handle the rest.
ben_vulpes: !up The20YearIRCloud
nubbins`: you mean filipino and they don't use flashes
dignork: danielpbarron: well, libertarians do not have any other way of influence I suspect.
HlySht: so he's just a regular bloke then
HlySht: Can anyone tell me who irdial/beautyon is? and why his opinion is held in high regard in the btc community?
ascii_field: see the bios cas/ras timings being silently adjusted by vendors, mentioned in article
ascii_field: it'll be narrowed so that usg has the only effective exploitatron for it, yes.
ascii_field: dignork: what normally happens in a case like this is - that the hole is sewn shut, but not completely shut - rather like 'infibulated' gurl partz in the middle east
dignork: ascii_field: yep, there was a discussion on bitflip, but this one is too real, I wonder when active Xen exploit will drive DDR out of cloud business.
mike_c: now that I do, it appears nobody. I was the last one who didn't know.
ascii_field: (for readers of my site: iirc i referred to bitcoin as 'mechanized hawala' in my first article on the subject)
ascii_field: (any financial network the buggers don't control, of course, falls under this)
ascii_field: even paraded by usg muppets in the state-controlled media as 't3rr0r1s7 f1n4nc3!!!111!!1111'
mike_c: and how the hell did you know what a hawala was? i first saw that word today.
mike_c: to be clear, i was not recommending that thing. just came across it today and thought I'd share the lulz.
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2014 02:50:50; asciilifeform: the best place to hide a little malice is a gigantic pile of incompetence.
assbot: Logged on 10-02-2015 03:25:08; mircea_popescu: this is like asking wyatt earp "how do you distinguish between the f brothers and stray dog"
ascii_field: cannot and must not recognize a difference between these.
ascii_field: unlike the linked usg honeypot.
mike_c: although they said "since 8th century"
mike_c: they mention that
ascii_field: summary for the impatient - arbitrary bit-flips induced from ring3 code on x86
ascii_field: as usual, the virtues of avoiding 'modern' consumer-grade (i.e. non-ECC memory, in this case) products is on display here
assbot: Project Zero: Exploiting the DRAM rowhammer bug to gain kernel privileges ... ( http://bit.ly/1BpfrUH )
nubbins`: (phun phact, no roman catholic may ascend to the canadian throne!)
nubbins`: speaking from my perspective as a canadian, the usa has a very strange relationship with religion
assbot: Daniel P. Barron on Twitter: "@jilliancyork If they blocked it people would notice right away and cry foul. Tweets about Jesus are disqualified from "top tweets."" ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLA7xT )
assbot: Internet privacy, funded by spooks: A brief history of the BBG | PandoDaily ... ( http://bit.ly/1AV1sT8 )
cazalla: http://pando.com/2015/03/01/internet-privacy-funded-by-spooks-a-brief-history-of-the-bbg/ interesting read, probably not news to better read people here though
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/so-i-found-the-libertard-motherlode/
Vexual: and thats the gateway
Vexual: see holdems just bitbet, but the comments are weighted
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: there is always choice.
ben_vulpes: i don't have much choice in the long run.
ben_vulpes: but i'm pretty sure with the state of modern consumer'pute'
ben_vulpes: instead of doing whatever's imposed upon me by the world, i mean.
decimation: I fault all those in the future (outside google) who are going to mindlessly adopt
decimation: I don't blame the folks at google for trying to improve specific hardware products
asciilifeform: expect this turdalicious horror to spread to the rest of 'linux world'
assbot: Logged on 26-02-2015 21:09:47; asciilifeform: in favour of either nothing or winblows-style whole-display 'remote desktop' bullshit
assbot: Logged on 26-02-2015 21:09:34; asciilifeform: PeterL: most 'alternatives for x11' dispense with the everything-can-be-piped-over-tcp
decimation: apparently google wants to get rid of x11 totally and replace it with their own graphics layer
decimation: asciilifeform: re: chromium > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Chrome-OS-Freon-Graphics < the other shoe dropped
mircea_popescu: that also happened to be during the brief interval when the us was worth more than something stuck on someone's boot.
mircea_popescu: used to be a time when that'd have been the absolute last thing one'd consider doing.
mircea_popescu: "no discipline has been announced for those who received the emails and said nothing." <<< lol wait, wut ? da usg stoolie programme ?
decimation: thestringpuller: sorry, apparently I haven't used up my allotment yet :(
decimation: received the emails and said nothing."
decimation: lulz > http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/06/us/in-ferguson-some-who-are-part-of-problem-are-asked-to-be-part-of-solution.html < "The emails uncovered by the Justice Department included a cartoon portraying President Obama as a chimpanzee and a joke about giving a black woman a crime-prevention award for having an abortion.They were circulated widely, Justice Department officials said, and no discipline has been announced for those who
decimation: danielpbarron: aye, one cannot step into the same waters twice, even if one pays dearly to try
mircea_popescu: in other news, romanian classroom : http://33.media.tumblr.com/9063eb4bfa1651c5642d441a38052f26/tumblr_n0oow5Osap1rvs8tno1_400.gif
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform was plenty of the latter even a year or two ago << yeah, but "preponderence of derpitude" standard.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
decimation: asciilifeform: re: cruise ship < well, there's a reason they say it's for the 'newlywed and nearly dead'
decimation: a skilled machinist's time isn't cheap either though
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah that was kinda the answer I was expecting to get
asciilifeform: they pound out the frame using hammer press machines... I asked 'why don't you just use a cnc mill to shape the parts' << try to picture what the cost of -milling- a smooth object the size of a wing might be.
asciilifeform: ^ much interesting historical curio on the site
asciilifeform: changing from "o bitcoin will never succeed" to "o we missed the boat so unfair" << there was plenty of the latter even a year or two ago
PeterL: mircea_popescu:pete_dushenski they claimed circle defrauded them, threatened to sue. never sued, disappeared. << was Dwolla, I don't think Circle was a thing yet then, but same idea
asciilifeform: cruise ships << i am still at an utter loss what the appeal of cruise ship is
asciilifeform: other than totally hermitise myself << ahahaha, works for me
Pierre_Rochard: I highly recommend it, I don’t doubt you’ll find the bourgeoisie vs aristocracy commentary amusing, and christian clavier is hysterical
pete_dushenski: ya, not a thing as much as a ripple in the ocean, as it were
pete_dushenski: to the extent that twitter trends are "a thing"
pete_dushenski: because if we want things that don't make sense, they'll happen.
mircea_popescu: me either.
Pierre_Rochard: On the subject of french movies, mircea_popescu & pete_dushenski have you seen jean reno’s les visisteurs?
assbot: Neo & Bee: Andreas Antonopoulos and Tuur Demeester share their views - CryptoCoinsNews ... ( http://bit.ly/1MiDAzf )
mircea_popescu: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/neo-bee-andreas-antonopoulos-tuur-demeester-share-views/ << and the fall guy operation lol.
pete_dushenski: http://media.coindesk.com/2015/03/bitpesa.jpg << tho these doods look epically stoked.
jurov: http://www.coindesk.com/why-bitcoin-regulation-lags-where-its-needed-most/ so they want *african* governments to start regulating bitcoin nao???
mircea_popescu: anyway, i have the pic archived.
pete_dushenski: just found the business card for the bitcoins.com guy, rodolfo andragnes. he claimed to have sold the domain to mt gox in 2011 for $100k, half cash, half btc.
ben_vulpes: hey does anyone have a link to a multisignature transaction in the main chain?
mircea_popescu: dude impressive, that guy managed to get the pic supressed ?
pete_dushenski: wasn't it that argentinian guy's and he sold the domain to gox ?
pete_dushenski: "Ex-marine Jered Kenna has to be one of the most perseverant entrepreneurs in bitcoin. After his exchange TradeHill fell apart not once but twice, he also lost bitcoin.com – the flagship domain for the digital currency." << perseverant and retarded.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski no no. there was this pic at some conference. the fall guy (denny idiot), the sucker (some local professor) and the actual scammer
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski they claimed circle defrauded them, threatened to sue. never sued, disappeared.
pete_dushenski: the one you killed !
mircea_popescu: derps ran off with the tradehill customer funds, bought some office space.
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mircea_popescu: no, my bad. http://trilema.com/2013/children-and-their-delusions-today-jared-kenna-and-ryan-singer/
pete_dushenski: he's known merely as "mr. i know everything there is to know about bitcoin" henceforth and forever more.
pete_dushenski: i wanna say they're unrelated
pete_dushenski: myea i'm enjoying the same.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the fact that it's changing from "o bitcoin will never succeed" to "o we missed the boat so unfair" is quite pleasant.
pete_dushenski: eh, let me add my quarterly nail to the coffin wouldja ?
mircea_popescu: and it will still all be stolfi level. and they will STILL not know how fucking old the stolfi bs is.
mircea_popescu: dude... it'll be 2050, wot long in firm control, random nobody at the fringe of the world will STILL be starting webwallets / writing bitcoin hate pieces.
pete_dushenski: young romanian fitness trainer or whatever is the perfect match.
pete_dushenski: older husbands have long since lost interest, spend the day at port on the golf course.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski of course. women 3x, and they CAN get it up.
mircea_popescu: outright prostitution is contentious, but then again this was pre viagra. couldn't get it up anyway.
pete_dushenski: i sweat the young attractive men do better on those ships
decimation: at any rate, a shapely young lady could probably make decent money working the bar on a cruise ship
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decimation: mircea_popescu: the one I was on was crewed mostly by filipinos. I think the different cruise lines 'specialize' in different 'third world' recruitment
pete_dushenski: they slayed hard.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> and the food was mediocre in quality, but great in quantity << in the 90s it was the best thing for avg romanian chick, work the cruise ships.
pete_dushenski: other than totally hermitise myself.
pete_dushenski: well, not much i can do about that, is there.
mircea_popescu: lol you're at the wrong age tho. prolly get 12-20 ppl marry a year.
pete_dushenski: they'd have to be, amirite ?!
pete_dushenski: lol that was supposed to be for the NO...
mircea_popescu: i guess mike gets it at 275, there being no average o.O
mircea_popescu: whose then, your wife's ?!
mircea_popescu: dude pete_dushenski's cruizin' all over the world, buyin' cars and shit, but not conference ?!
mircea_popescu: <decimation> the amusing bit is that folks think they are trading in a 'free market', but then actually act like they are scared government lackeys << quite!
mircea_popescu: <decimation> I think there might be some of that, but I also doubt that britian's 'good men' could get much done trapped in the crazy monkey house of a modern us bureaucracy << no, but they wouldn't be, see ? that's the very definition. "good men" is, obama comes and derps, they point and laugh, obama calls the national guard, they shoot it dead.
decimation: http://www.cruiselawnews.com/tags/labadee/ "The cruise line has been criticized for erecting a barb-wire fence around the resort to keep the Haitians out (photo right),"
decimation: http://www.cruisecheap.com/cruise-lines/royal-caribbean-labadee.html < the glossy sheets still sell it as 'hispaniola'
decimation: meanwhile the surrounding seas were littered with shipwrecks
pete_dushenski: i went on a cruise of se asia in 2002 when the post-9/11 deals made it... affordable.
decimation: turns out, this is a private peninsula of hati, wholly owned by royal caribbean. since it would be far too dangerous for the locals to serve up the vittles, the entire crew disembarked to operate the various bars and amusements on the 'beach'
mircea_popescu: <decimation> the end result has maybe 30% 'original' parts << old men don't want the original parts of their wife, they just want a construct that looks like the wife did, in 72.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu sorta the best way to not get anally gaped by mech/beautician.
decimation: pete_dushenski: yeah but 'real places' generally cost $$$, which is why cruises avoid them
pete_dushenski: decimation sounds like a normal cruise experience ! some islands are built up exclusively for tourists, but in real cities, whether shanghai or split, you can at least walk for a few hours in one direction and still have room to explore
decimation: mircea_popescu: http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/news/press/ontape.htm " When she first recorded a deer eating nestlings, she wondered if they would eat eggs, too. She incorporated the help of a captive deer at the research center to find out. "We presented it [captive deer] with a few quail eggs -- just to see what it would do -- and it munched them right up."
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> or cultivate a relationship with an actual machine shop << this is how itworked in the 80s too lol. a guy had to have relatiuons with mechanics.
decimation: and the food was mediocre in quality, but great in quantity
decimation: yeah I did that once, the scant few hours at port makes it difficult to see anything other than the usual tourist garbage
pete_dushenski: not until one of them makes food that isn't better used on livestock
decimation: pete_dushenski: I presume you aren't going to one of those 'all-inclusive' resorts populated by the usian middle class?
pete_dushenski: feel free to pgp-gram or ;;later tell if you've been to the home of usain bolt and.... other fast runners.
pete_dushenski: i enjoyed the ones you gents sent for oz :D
decimation: the idea that anyone could 'consider the implications' of whatever decision they make in the matter of bank interest rates, money supply, etc is pretty lulzy
decimation: well, the other part of this issue is that the fed isn't tinkering alone, you also have the euros doing what they do
pete_dushenski: it seems to me that, at this point certainly, there's more general fear when there *isn't* tinkering
decimation: well, when you are trading on the wholly-owned 'usd-coin' platform, it's easy to be scared when usg decides to tinker with various model parameters mid-flight
decimation: the amusing bit is that folks think they are trading in a 'free market', but then actually act like they are scared government lackeys
pete_dushenski: heh the montly mpex reports matter more.
pete_dushenski: to the extent that they don't have to, that no one is holding a gun to their head and they aren't starving, why bother ?
decimation: yes. for instance, the fact that the bond market in the us freaked out because a semi-good jobs report might imply that the fed might begin 'targeting' higher rates
pete_dushenski: so americans support welfare and free shit, so no one bothers to get up for work.
pete_dushenski: sure, i'm not saying it's entirely the fault of the men in the context of their work, but it is their fault in the context of the systems of governance they support
decimation: I think there might be some of that, but I also doubt that britian's 'good men' could get much done trapped in the crazy monkey house of a modern us bureaucracy
pete_dushenski: no men of morals left in the states, work gets shipped abroad
pete_dushenski: unless of course this is a case of, like mp's observation on the decline of the british empire, there being no good men left to do what has to be done
decimation: boeing is in the business of being various state's bitch
decimation: pete_dushenski: yeah that's why I put the scare quotes :)
pete_dushenski: they're usg through and through
decimation: ben_vulpes: yes, and granted many of these parts had complex curve shapes
pete_dushenski: that's a lot of trust there.
ben_vulpes: <decimation> I asked 'why don't you just use a cnc mill to shape the parts'. the answer: 1.) they apparently don't 'do' computers and 2.) the aircraft were all half-ass made to the blueprints anyway, often with 'by hand' adjustments << uh yeah that's how hand machining worked
decimation: pete_dushenski: it's hard for the 'capitalists' to refuse china's offer to 100% subsidize their manufacturing business
pete_dushenski: there's much to be said for controlling your supply chain and having it in your backyard/garage/basement
decimation: I asked 'why don't you just use a cnc mill to shape the parts'. the answer: 1.) they apparently don't 'do' computers and 2.) the aircraft were all half-ass made to the blueprints anyway, often with 'by hand' adjustments
assbot: Classic cars found in French farmhouse expected to fetch millions | World news | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1GvWaoZ )
pete_dushenski: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/05/classic-cars-france-farm-fetch-millions-ferrari
pete_dushenski: there are barn-find ferrari *shells* that go for millions
decimation: old men pay top dollar for these things, some of which were found as a wreck in the jungle. the end result has maybe 30% 'original' parts
decimation: I recently toured a 'restoration' shop where they rebuild wrecks from wwii
pete_dushenski: for usians, authentic parts are available, if expensive or just plain hard to find
asciilifeform: (these folks are generally preoccupied with the authenticity of the engine, unlike, e.g., the famous cuban mechanics, because that's actually the part they imprinted on as children)
asciilifeform: decimation: usually all of the visible parts and as much of the engine as can be helped
decimation: asciilifeform: the thing that gets me, is that what percentage of the 'car' was actually original?
asciilifeform: and a mazerati's worth of cnc gear in the cellar
asciilifeform: folks with 2,3,4+ classic cars under leather skins in their yard, in various states of repair
pete_dushenski: well, old men have little else to occupy themselves with so they're always in search of projects
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: my understanding is that folks who own machines like this, either become amateur machinists or cultivate a relationship with an actual machine shop
decimation: there's a somewhat similar market for 'restored' wwii aircraft